1983 Mack Midliner
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2022
- Globalism isn’t a new phenomenon. When French vehicle maker Renault began investing in America’s Mack truck company, the cross breeding began. There is Re-No-Way this 1983 Midliner isn’t a Mack truck.
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We use to have a Mack truck plant in Plainfield Nj. The building is still there and it's a big eye sore now. Mack was a great USA company.
Steve, very interesting find !
These cabs were created in the early 1970 s by
DAF (Netherlands)
Magirus Deutz (Germany)
Berliet (France)
And Volvo (Sweden)
They are known as the "Club of 4" cabs and they were EVERYWHERE here in Europe. They were in production a long time and you still find them (Vol. Fire Dept. for example).
When Renault bought French truck builder Berliet the also started bearing the Renault logo. Also the name Saviem was used.
Please keep crawling - love your channel 👍
If it didn't say Mack I'd say it's a Vulvo.
Mack also used the Budd cab, more widely known as the Ford C series cabover. FWD might've used that cab as well.
Even today, DAF, Volvo and Renault share cabs for their smallest trucks, I think Peterbilt also uses them in the US
The Magirus Deutz trucks were sold as Magirus trucks in the US. But we also had the Mack and Volvo versions. I believe we even got some Iveco trucks from this.
@@Skusty Magirus Germany
Iveco Italien
We had some of those in our rental fleet also. The first time I drove one it took me ten minutes to discover how to shut the engine off. After turning off the ignition, there's a handle between the seats you had to pull up on and hold until you basically strangled the engine to death.
Man I always hated working on them but let’s see that gold dodge van !!!!! 70s shaggy wagons !!
complete with porthole window no less !!!!
Heck ya!
Its way cleaner than my 77, I’m drooling every time it appears in the background. Hope someone saves it.
I've worked on tons of these.
To crank the engine you put the key in, press it in further, then turn it. Won't start if ya don't.
I could put a clutch in in a about 2
hours. Easy to work on.
And adding oil through that long barely angled tube takes for ever, just raise the cab.
Wow! My dad had a fleet of MS300’s when I was a kid and I got my CDL behind the wheel of one! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
When I was a kid we actually lived next to a mack service station so I have always had a thing for mack trucks👍
How about the cool AF Dodge Van across the way? Also the Junkyard Dog makes an appearance @6:12
He donna look so mean…:)
Steve is the best teacher. Always learn something new on every video.
I absolutely love finding out all these different companies having relations, its maybe my all time favorite bit of automotive history. Speaking of companies having relations, i have one of those Plymouth Crickets mentioned in the video, except its a Sunbeam Avenger (1973), one of many different names it went under.
And the cricket wasn’t a captive import over here as the avenger didn’t exist before Chrysler bought Rootes
@@mikeystoy I live in Finland and they were sold as Sunbeam Avengers here. If I'm not mistaken, the Cricket/Avenger was the 1st and last car to be designed in the Rootes group while Chrysler ownership, could be mistaken.
@@Hipas_Account this is true
One of our favorite quotes growing up. "Looked like it got hit by a Mack truck"
"that girl is so ugly it looks like she french kissed a mack truck"
When i was in my early 20s i yard jockyed for a warehouse complex...i used a mack MB 400..it had a 300 maxidine and a twin club duplex trans...no air..no power sreering...7 warehouses and almost 2 miles of road....i worked my butt off...but i had fun putting the screws to it while making moves......(im 56 now)...
I was just telling a co-worker about these today. We are currently in Berlin, and I commented about all the cab overs, and told him about an 85 midliner box truck I used to drive, and how Renault had a hand in it as it was a cab over. Pretty sure I bored him 😂
I'd love to see a video on the gold Dodge van across the driveway from this Mack truck
It just came out Jim!
@@zekeosborne9684 yea thought it was funny when I seen it this morning
Drove one of those in the late 80s-90s, MS200, 20’ flatbed dump, straight 5 speed…absolutely gutless, it wasn’t the worst thing on the road, just well underpowered for hill country, delivered everything from Sheetrock, massive AC units, trusses, cedar shingles, gravel, and equipment…never ever did it give me trouble…
Greetings from France! Here, in France, I can see a lot of these trucks still being used. They are pretty reliable.
Tell us more about that gold van behind you! Also, 'french tickler' lol
If you like that gold Dodge van, you'll love tomorrow's Junkyard Crawl video!!! THANKS for writing, Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante Outstanding! Thank you for making these fantastic videos!
Once again, it's good to see you online and ramping up to get back in the junkyard. I somehow never commented on your original video of this truck, so I'll comment here and add it in.
Yes, Renault got a 10% part of Mack in 1979 and also the Signal Oil and Gas Companies had a handle in owning them for a time from about 1967 onward. This is a 1983 model year with the "D" in in the 10th VIN digit for the 1983 model year. V. Pelletier and Sons Trucks is now a Family Dollar store. This truck had a 5.5L six-cylinder diesel engine in it originally, so that's what it is if it's the original. This is a Class 7 truck with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of 26,001 through 33,000 lbs.
Ecco, Precco, Whelen, and Trucklite all make backup alarms and they all purchase from each other. Brigade Electronics makes one that sounds like "white noise". We had a demo of one by the Brigade salesperson. He came to our location with his boss from the UK, and after going out to get samples to show us, his car was gone. Initially thinking it was stolen, someone said, "Check the impound yard". Sure enough, he parked in a "No Parking" zone and the police towed his vehicle. Needless to say, we never saw the Brigade guy again.....We had a few of these in our fleet, but they're all gone now.
Mack uses dog themed things for various items in their line: "Pedigree" for an interior option, dog paw prints on the floor mats, "Guard Dog" engine protection system, "Power Leash" for their engine brake system, among other canine themed things. The British said that the early Macks reminded them of English Bulldogs and the trucks were tenacious like their canine mascots.
Since Renault is involved in this one and they are French, I'd call this one a "French Bulldog......."
The roofing company my Dad worked for had one that had a scissor lift and dump bed and they also had a Maguris with a hot tar tanker on it . The Mack Midliner cab over has always been my favorite truck.
Back in 03' n 04' I ran a 99' Mack Midliner with a 24' box. That was 1 tough bulldog 😎 loved driving that old truck. Awesome vid Steve 👍
I drove one of those on a truck route I used to have back in 1985-86 it was a rental while the international I usually drove was being repaired, I've always liked them.
They were marketed in Australia as the Mack Midliner. They were actually a Renault G260 using a Volvo F6 cab
These were indestructible reliable trucks! We had one in white back in the 80's to early 90's at the truck/trailer body shop I worked at. It was a used MS300 that was cut down into a small bobtail tractor from a former dump truck. We ran the hell out of it picking up and delivering trailers for repairs or Thermo-King work. I also installed a lot of van bodies on these new as well for local produce, etc companies. The Mack bulldog is missing off this, it was on the perch just under the windshield. Although Renault, like Fiat cars leave MUCH to be desired for reliability etc, they both build very good diesel heavy duty trucks! Our MS300 gave us very little trouble considering the abuse it took and was more reliable than the R400 Mack we had with the Scania engine. The engine in that Renault prob still runs like a clock.
Hi from Australia, Great video's Steve keep them coming. As a driver for just over 40 years we've had Macks out here and were great trucks really had balls. Then Renult took over in the mid to late 90's and then they went over the cliff probably the greatest shitheaps on the road. A lot of blokes went broke thanks to the Renult takeover.Cheers.
Wow! I really didn’t know! Anyway I always thought the European trucks were ahead of their American counterparts! Great video Steve! Thanks for the history lesson!
Very interesting never knew this thank you Steve for sharing all of your auto education learn something new ever time watching your videos 👍
2 of my uncles worked at Snyder tank, it was across the street from the Ford stamping plant. Super cool to hear a 'local' company on your channel. Im south of Buffalo in Boston, New York that is.
I think my ‘87 International has a Snyder tank on it.
Bullfrog, gotta love Steve for that great line!
The cab-corner rubber bumpers are winddeflectors to keep the door handles clean
And so, tonight I got TWO new bits of information from you Steve. Due to your comment at 7:23 "maybe not a Bull Dog, maybe this one's a Bull Frog" was cute and I was going to make a quick educated comment on it. So I Googled Frogs and France. WOW!
First I find a 2001 ABC article titled "France Overrun By Giant Frogs" stating that Bull Frogs are gobbling up all the local fish, ducklings, birds and smaller frogs and their legs taste like crap!
From there I dug around and found a couple of The Simpson's episodes with French Frog jokes as well as history dating back into the 16th Century with a possible prophecy by Nostradamus about Some old frogs taking Arris a century later some might believe.
Thanks to Junkyard Crawls I may never see another Mack Midliner without picturing how a fleur-de-lis kinda resembles a frog now.
Thanks for the hours lost!
As my co workers used to exclaim when we'd see one coming into the shop on the back of a wrecker.....OH NOOO RENAULT!! lol
Remember we had one at work back in the day, used to drive it some when I first got my CDL, we call it a frog dog here in eastern Canada.
Morning Steve, as always, another great video!!
Be safe!! God Bless!!
When I was a young lad and maintaining C-5 Galaxy aircraft in the Air Force, we had this chassis with a giant tank on the back full of liquid nitrogen. (The C-5 uses liquid nitrogen for fire fighting in unmanned areas of the aircraft)
Love the dodge van in the background. Great vid as always. My dad drove the volvo version for wilson trucking when i was a kid and those trucks were new.
Love your videos. I believe those rubber pieces are an aerodynamic feature to prevent buffeting on the flat front. Might be wrong but it's the answer I was given about these style of truck.
I grew up around Mack trucks. They were preferred in my area for hauling coal through the mts. because they were tough and strong. I even owned a 94' CH16 for a few years. Guys liked Peterbuilt to , but alot of tall guys like me didnt because there was no room in the cab. The Superliner was probably my favorite.
Recently saw a really nice Superdog tanker in Brodhesdsville, PA.
@@1hasbeen531 we had one at the coal company I worked for, strictly for hauling overweight/oversize loads. They still have it and use it regularly , kept as close to perfect condition as possible for a working tractor.
I was a fleet Maintenance Manager from 1985 to 2016 and those Midliner and later Manager trucks were nearly Bulletproof we used to joke that they were designed for the Russian Military😃.
At 7:26
"A bullfrog" 😂
I'm one of the few allowed to laugh.
I like all your videos you don’t specialize in one type of car you go through all types of trucks up the good work
That truck looks like a fun restoration project .
Interesting I am French and I used to see those Renault trucks everywhere in my youth.
But "keep in mind" that everybody drives left hand in Europe excepted in UK/Ireland.
Some of the side bay trucks when I worked at Pepsi in Vermont were these Macks.
Thanks Steve..love the truck videos.
20+ years ago I drove a Volvo version with th h a box body for an orchard. Incredible truck to maneuver. In 1978 or so willeys express bought a fleet of Volvos. In the mid 90s some where still in service.
I used to drive one of these as a furniture delivery driver. I enjoyed going to work every dat because of that Truck. The one I drove was a 5 speed with a split diff. Four years later I ended up getting my CDL Now I drive a 99 Pete 379 with a Big O'l Kitty Cat.
More heavy duty history please
In Europe the call this cab the clover4 cab, because it got used by Volvo, Renault, daf and iveco/magirus-deutz. I actually got used by a lot of other foren brands as well.
Drove one for a friend's tree Co. Used as a 60' bucket truck. Shifted reverse of the USA made trucks i used to drive. The little leaver that looks like a PTO control between the seats is the park air brake. Air assisted clutch if you ran low on air in a tight situation. Using the brakes a lot you could not push the clutch to save your life.
Junkyard dog spotted at 6:12
Those rubber or plastic things are wind deflectors, to keep road dirt off the side windows and mirrows. Mike in Ireland.
That truck is beautiful
I started my truck driving career on one of them in 1990 when the lumber company I worked at got 1 for a Box truck. We got a second 1 which was a conventional version CS series i believe, for a flat bed. I hated them because they rode rough and they always broke the stick Shift. We would always have to limp it over to the dealer ship to have the broken shifter replaced.
Longtime pal is an engineer with Mack, has been through the wringer with them (corporate ups and downs) - including some years in France.
Wow! It’s funny, I live only a few miles from Bernardston Auto Wrecking. Back in the mid-eighties I worked for a welding supply company called Merriam Graves. I delivered medical and industrial gases. Two of my biggest deliveries were Rowe Yankee and Vermont Yankee Atomic plants.
Anyway, the truck I drove was a Mack Midliner. It broke down a lot in the winter and it was always cold in the cab. I drove that truck from 1986 to 1989.
That mack looks just like a Volvo F7 we used to have.
so Renault had more than just le car they had le truck.
Apparently so-well said sir-I always learn something with Steve.
You win the internet today
@@HAMMER8181 Yes he does.
Loving that gold, mid-70s Dodge van in the background at 2:45.
Hello Geo78er, Thanks for writing. I'll give you a little hint about that gold Dodge van....it's coming up soon on a Junkyard Crawl video. I think maybe tomorrow! Please stay tuned and THANKS AGAIN for watching. -Steve Magnante
Steve, U are cracking me up...
The gold Dodge van with the slotted mags across the road looks interesting.
"This puppy right here" points at bulldog logo
When you need a car cover for a French auto do you use Reynol's wrap? (thats a pun)
😜🤣🤣
When first started with our company in '91, we had a handful of these come in. Some people didn't care for them, but I liked them, because the only option for us was the Mercedes. A truck designed before the war. They were indestructible, but very crude.
Get well Steve!!!
LOOK AT THAT Custom Tradesman at 3:02!!
Wow!! some engineer actually had the forethought about the person who will be working on it after
I loved driving the Isuzu cab over rollback as part of my job at an independent shop on an island as I could do a U-turn on the one and only two lane highway and by leaving the rear outer tires slacked down I could drive on sand. Unfortunately it passed when my boss lost it to the ocean during hurricane Dennis. You may have seen it on the weather channel and the MSM near my 79 Ford that was upside down buried in sand from my dumbass attack. Anyways I love driving trucks like that unless it's on roads like Massachusetts has.
"not a bulldog, more of a bullfrog" love it
I have a real soft spot for Mack trucks. 1st semi I ever grabbed gears in was an 1983 Mack.
I learned something today - Thanks as always!!
My homeboy Larry had four of these that he used in his tree business for years. They were older than this unit and had been owned by Overnight Freight. Five speed stick that was way down near the floor. I may be wrong but I swore that they had Scania six cylinder non-turbo engines. I know that they were brutes. Very slow but you couldn’t kill them. I think he used them for about twenty years and sold them for more than he paid for them.
"a french tickler on the shifter" hahaaaaa
Right, sounds like it belongs in the boogie van on the other side of the road
See also the Mercedes / Freightliner swap in the same time frame. The early rounded Mercedes trucks would make a low rent Unimog. Also note the " Chicken Tax " ,
GOOD VIDEO STEVE''
That was a GREAT VIDEO.....learned a lot from this one
those arent bumpers they are air scoops. cabovers are notorious for no aerodynamics and those scoops have fresh air vents inside them it helps to pressurize the cab. also they blow an airstream behind them to help reduce road spray and keep the windows and mirrors clean.
Mack and Volvo are synonymous today. 😁 I'm driving one now. 🚛 Not right this moment but u know what I mean 👍
im sure others have mentioned this but i love the into top quality content.
Love the yellow goldish van in the background can you do a segment on that shag waggon please
Snyder tank had a long term contract with Mack for fuel tanks, I knew me Snyder.
Steve!
The truck is infact a Volvo man!
Best regards and thank you for a great show!!!!!!!!
Kalle, Sweden
Thanks for the history lesson 👍
The bullfrog comment was awesome.
Oh btw love the new intro! Very apropos
As far as I'm concerned this is the NEW junkyard gold!
Hi John H, THANKS for the kind words. Truth be told, I pitched a show to-be-called "Steve Magnante's Junkyard Crawl" to Speed Channel, Fox Sports, Velocity and The Out The Door Channel (a.k.a. Outdoor Channel) but NONE OF THEM SAW THE MERIT. I couldn't believe it. That struggle lasted FIVE YEARS. Then I pitched it to the Mighty David Freiburger at toe OLD Motor Trend On Demand (online version) and he said "Lets try it". It was a success. Then Velocity "merged" with Motor Trend and Roadkill's Junkyard Gold was summarily put into the crusher. So I decided to GO AROUND the bone head Decision Makers thanks to RUclips and here we are. Funny thing, during the Roadkill's Junkyard Gold days, my idea was to simply do a series of show-and-tells about cool, rare, interesting vehicles in junkyards. but some of the Decision Makers said "the show needs ANOTHER BEAT". I got your BEAT right here mister. The term "BEAT" is industry-speak for "we don't fully get it...we think it needs some extra element". So that's why the animated "re-build" came to be on most later episodes of RKJYG. I never thought that was necessary and so don't waste time or effort on it here on RUclips. Anyhoo, Long Live RUclips! THANKS again for writing, Steve Magnante
Junkyard Gold is showing on MT now as I’m watching this
i like this video. nice to talk about the history of these trucks. but next time give us some specs such as engine power, gvw, etc
Steve i would love to see you cover more semi trucks. 🚚
Didn't know that Renault made trucks for Mack.
Cool, Steve👊
A French Bulldog. Great video.
Steve another great video, well explained! The best part is now I know what a French tickler looks like. :-) In a future video could you explain its use! :-) :-) :-)
Canadian Pacific Express had a bunch. Im a tireguy&the rear hubpilot wheels were the worse to get off.Metric hub/Merica wheel🤪
Did he say “French Tickler ?” Ohh my Steve !
Love your channel. I enjoy it with my morning coffee.
I always learn alot from you and the comments.
Rode in a Valva rendition many a time as a kid as my Boss had 2 of em.
Good runnin truck, but terrible ride.
Thanks for the memories Steve.
Being raised near Allentown I found this rather interesting. Guess the good old Mack Trucks gave in to economic problems.
I read where Mack got the bulldog nickname in WW1. Soldiers commented on how they looked like them. Yes, Mack's been around that long.
4:50 would love to see that gold van.
I always thought those little verticle bumpers were for air deflection...
Bulldog or French poodle you should have said Steve.....love your videos.....very informative
Bullfrog went right over your head.
@@harriettedaisy2233 nooo....but living in a bilingual province I know French people don't like being called frogs.....not to cause cancel culture 🙄
I love your recently updated intro, but your weed-whacker could use a bit of a sharpening ;-)
Someone should save that truck.