Great Voyages: Zheng He
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Dr. Adam Smith, Assistant Curator, Asian Section, kicks off the 2013--2014 "Great Lectures" series. This year's theme: Great Voyages. Zheng He, a Muslim-born eunuch, is the most famous of the men that led the spectacular maritime expeditions of the Ming Dynasty, mounted during the early 15th century as an assertion of China's power and prestige among neighboring peoples of Southeast Asia. Dr. Smith discusses Zheng He's seven voyages, which reached beyond Southeast Asia to India, the Middle East, and the east coast of Africa over three decades-half a century before Portuguese navigators reached these same regions via the Cape of Good Hope.
Great talk with lots of interesting facts
Comments should be disabled on these lectures, the crass idiocy is simply overbearing. Everyone seems to know better than the lecturers. I guess everyone's a PhD specialized in the exact field as the lecturer and beyond.
Dr. Adam Smith: We believe the ships were built too fast to be true. The Chinese accounts told us that Zheng He's 317 ships were built within 3 years, and each was as huge as a football field. This gave about 3.5 days per ship. Please explain, is such a speed of shipbuilding possible in ancient China, or even possible in modern China.
If not possible, then it means Zheng He had no ships. Without ships, how could he take 7 voyages?
Secondly, Chinese accounts did not say anything about China exchanging correspondence with the countries Zheng He visited. Please tell us was there any correspondence?
Chinese accounts told us that the meeting between Zheng He and his hosts all took place at the seashore. Please explain, was this kind of diplomacy normal or believable or even did happen.
Third, one Chinese account recorded a meeting between Zheng He and the Vietnamese king. The account told us that the Vietnamese king dismounted from his elephant immediately upon seeing Zheng He and walked on his knees, and kowtowed to Zheng He. Please explain was such a salutation true or false.
i bet this guy has never even been on a boat
shut your filthy mouth you subhuman
Ck T: You are definitely right. Zheng He had never been on a boat. He was just a hoax, believed to be true history by dreamers of greatness.
@@whkwole6842 you are a moron. i was reffering to the speaker
I bet you're incapable of giving an intelligent reason why you would say this or why it matters.
This guy do not know what he's talking about 1. Zheng He mission was not to sail beyond East Africa just the Indian Ocean and parts of Middle East and South China Sea 2. When the feet sailed their where about four other adimals which sailed with he later splited up into their own fleet sailing in different hemispheres around the tip of Africa,south hemisphere and western oceans mapping everything they came across or taking things like flowers and things back with them.Martin Waldseemuller map 1507 he never sailded in boat on lake how did he make a map showing the Pacific Ocean the Chinese, because Europeans did no ships,tools,or mathematics to find longitude or latitude only a theory 4Their is a map of Africa made in the year 1402 long before Zheng He.
Jesus, Get the point!
The last few English lecturers I've watched (tried to watch) from the Penn Museum series all seem to stammer, stutter and babble. Don't they proofread their papers? Don't they review and maybe rehearse their presentations before hand? They all present as if it's their first time.
For PhD's and professionals in their fields, I expect more.
Great mariner...bloody awful speech bloke gives..hes not much chop errr errr errrummm
Extremely interesting insight into an age when travel and the image of the world were so different. So Zheng He was a Muslim eunuch whose father had been on the Hajj.
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So, his voyages was just because he was looking for someone?He was a well known man in southeast Asia and some said he brought Islam to Malacca but I'm wondering why is Malacca ancient writings was in arabic and the founder of Malacca was a sultanate royal blood who was known with a different name, like a secret name or something.. He did brought a message of peace though since he never tried to invade Southeast Asia.. The invaders only came a few years later and after that they just kept on coming and funny that what's written in history are different from what we've heard from our ancestors.. Our real history are just left as fairytales..
Very interesting, a good addition to my knowledge. Thanks.
Zu-La-Fa in Indonesian language is Jerapah, a long necked Giraffe.
One century before Portuguese reached Indonesia. Almost two centuries before the Dutch Republic (of Seven Provinces, Be-Ne-Lux) came to Indonesia.
Richard Lee, the battle was in Nanking (Southern Capital), not Peking (Northern Capital). Zhu Di moved it to Peking, now Bejing. I am South East Asian Chinese, my ancestors came from Fujian, was born in Semarang, Java, Indonesia. One of the place Zheng He visit and left Chinese (perhaps my ancestors) to listen if there is any other Chinese (Jianwen) people. Every year, until now, people celebrate the coming back of Zheng He's fleet to pick them up. As kid, I was baffled when people shouting "the ships already landed", we all went to Sam Po Kong's Temple to celebrates. Then they parades across town, wearing Medieval Chinese costumes and blaring drums. That temple is in the middle of no where away from the sea, only small ditches connect it to the sea. It must be a river at Zheng He's time, since other wise his large ships are not able to land. These areas have predominantly Chinese population. Even the first Muslim Kingdom of Demak was established by Raden Patah (Jin Bun, first Muslim King with Chinese mother). I don't know anything about Goddes of Sea. I made a private study about Zheng He (Sam Po Toa Lang), might share to everybody.
thank you to share. Looks like zheng he learnt with the portuguese.
Thank you for your sharing.Love from FUJIAN
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Gavin Menzies isn't the only 1 who proposed the theory China reached America before Columbus. Another is a Chinese professor in the US Dr. Siu-Leung Lee, PhD. who acquired a bronze medallion from the Cherokee Indians in N. Carolina with Chinese character inscriptions from Xuande Emperor (1425-1435): hyperspacecafe.com/showthread.php?tid=3998. Zheng He was granted his 7th and last voyage but never returned. He died in 1433 which is within the reign of Xuande.
Another proponent of the theory is Chariot Harris Reis. His father Hendon Harris acquired a collection of old maps 天下圖 (map of everything under the heaven) from an antique shop in Korea which he claimed are ancient world maps. He wrote the book "Asiatic Fathers of America". We are talking about the Shang dynasty (1600-1046 BCE) in China. Charlotte claims some of the descriptions in an old Chinese text 山海經 (Classic of Mountain & Seas) were referring to places in the west coast of N. America.
A document written by Dr. Lee: ttp://www.uscpfa.org/USCR/USCPFA%202011%20Summer.pdf
The wood and supplies came from Nanjing. The ships were built close to the mouth" of the river leading to the Pacific Ocean.
Malindi is on the coast of Kenya.
Dr. Adam Smith: We believe the ships were built too fast to be true. The Chinese accounts told us that Zheng He's 317 ships were built within 3 years, and each was as huge as a football field. This gave about 3.5 days per ship. Please explain, is such a speed of shipbuilding possible in ancient China, or even possible in modern China.
If not possible, then it means Zheng He had no ships. Without ships, how could he take 7 voyages?
Secondly, Chinese accounts did not say anything about China exchanging correspondence with the countries Zheng He visited. Please explain, was there exchanging correspondence?
Chinese accounts told us that the meeting between Zheng He and his hosts all took place at the seashore. Please explain, was this kind of diplomacy normal or believable or even did happen.
Third, one Chinese account recorded a meeting between Zheng He and the Vietnamese king. The account told us that the Vietnamese king dismounted from his elephant immediately upon seeing Zheng He and walked on his knees, and kowtowed to Zheng He. Please explain was such a salutation true or false.
Etc.
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Learning is fun!!
Well put ups
This presenter rambles too much about unimportant info.
and waves his hands around
proud of zheng he one of best sailor
thank you
Chinese people visited then Ceylon to visit the budhist monastaries which gives you an inner feeling which even I do experience even today. you feel like you are in the visinity of heaven.
The name "America" for the New World came many years after Columbus discovered it still believing that he reached China. Even if Zheng He actually went to America, he wouldn't give it the name America we used today.
According to the controversial 1421 world map that came out of a Beijing auction, there were 2 Western Oceans on the map. The "Small" Western Ocean referred to the Indian Ocean. The "Great" Western Ocean referred to the Atlantic.
I believe he thought he reached India which is why Native Americans and First Nations are called Indians. But I could be wrong about that.
this lecture was soooooo informative, but i was bored out of my mind. I really appreciate the knowledge, really i do. I think that his monotone speaking style, and the verrrrrrry dry personality that he shows in this video makes it all the more dreadful.
Dr. Adam Smith，郑和的船队，317艘，到了海上，郑和如何发号司令？一声令下，
必须所有的船『同时』收到命令。600年前的通讯方法如何达到这个『同时』？
Flag signal and drum sound! dummy.
@@James-Godsaystheremustbelight ：There were 317 ships spreading about the surface of the sea for miles in distance. What flag signal and drum sound could reach all the 317 ships simultaneously ? Simultaneity was the word. Anyways, thank you for your dumb answer. Please answer the second. Were the 317 ships built within 3 years? On average one ship per 3 days.
Thirdly, did these many sail ships go up the Yangtze River from the sea after each voyage?
@@legpol Who said simultaneously?Does it necessay? Each ship can pass the order to the another one, and they can use light in the night to pass the order too, even smoke either. And I don't know if they built up all the ships in just thress years or five years does that matter? But what I know is they have 20000 more workers for each ship to built. The third one, I don't they go up or not, if they can go down first, why not go up. Besides, there's a big port near the capital city which was at the end of the Yangtze River. By the way, this is the construction site that I found. www.hssczl.net/2016-11/18/content_5459927.htm
@@James-Godsaystheremustbelight :The time taken to build 317 huge ships matters a lot. If it was impossible to build huge ships that fast, then all the ships never existed. Without any ships, how could Zheng He go to sea? Then, the going up the Yangtze is another impossible thing. All sail ships can only move in still water such as in lakes and seas because still water will not create more drag on the ship bow. Especially so were Zheng He's ships, which were wide-body ships (57 meters wide specifically). The width of his ships will create a huge drag against even still water. Then how could they overcome the water flow? Did you ever see sail boats sailing on any river? Another impossibility in the Zheng He saga was, there were no names of the capital cities Zheng He was reported to have visited.
@@legpol Kid, read more. That's it.
THE GREAT ASIAN RACE, the race who was thousands of years ahead all others
Takingout thetrash: Yes, China has been a great race of wild dreams.
Lol
The stuttering is insufferable
i've been through half of this lecture, so far he just seems to be trying to debunk the idea that zhen hu found anything. does he get to anything significant in world history? nothing seems to be particularly special about this guy
Buddha does not exist, they should have thanked God for their blessings. Great voyages tho.
Neither is God u dumb idiot. It's a fantasy created to keep sheeple like u controlled.
7.62 full metal You're a silly person.
Zheng He's huge ships and huge number of those ships are a hoax. Probably there was a man named Zheng He but he never had 317 huge ships to accompany him.
I presume you've published your research on this astonishing finding. Where can we read it?
There is so much out there of amazing ancient things that boggle the mind I don't know why you can't accept these huge ships.
@@lindacloudobserver9717 because the claimed size is larger than it is physically possible to make wooden boats. There are limits due to the nature of the materials one uses, even if one keeps using more and more. Most scholars propose a much smaller size, basically the same size as the largest European warships of the time. Their technology was severely lacking when it came to sailing. Ocean voyages(that aren't along the coast) were very difficult for them and they cant sail into the wind well at all. In all technological ways Chinese ships were vastly inferior to European ships, so there is no reason to think that the ancient Chinese somehow managed to defy the laws of material science. Plus the chinese accounts of history are not reliable because they are far too prone to propagandistic exaggeration to flatter those above them
@@alexdunphy3716 : I am sorry I missed your comment for so long, almost a year. I wish to add a few points to yours. Zheng He's ships, 317 in number, were reported to be built in 3 years' time, which gives about 3 days per ship. Of course, such a speed is impossible to achieve by any country modern or ancient. Even if such huge sailing ships existed somewhere, they would be unable to go against river currents. But the Chinese accounts told the world Zheng He's such ships had gone up against the Yangtze River 7 times from the sea to the inland city Nanjing. Third, Zheng He's fleet was reported to have visited about 30 countries. It was only reported by the Chinese, no other country said anything about seeing 317 huge ships calling. And there are more points to show Zheng He's seagoing to be a novelistic event, not any history. Let us pause for the time being. See you.
@@yohei72 : I am sorry for missing your request for so long. I have not written anything to publish. If you read Chinese, I recommend you go to the link www.360doc.com/content/17/0222/16/27339124_631156867.shtml, to read a paper titled: 郑和下西洋是一个夸大到千万倍的虚假宣传. If you do not read Chinese, please read my comment below just posted on 2020/07/03 in response to Alex Dunphy.