The ending with Rust finally hopeful for a future... finally giving him the peace that he needed... that was perfect. Best season of a show that i've ever watched.
It's not the first time Marty misheard him. There was that time Rust said "like you can smell a psychosphere". Marty in a later scene said "I just want you to stop saying odd shit, like you can smell a psycho's fear." It's funny to think that some percentage of the tension between them is simply from Marty mishearing what Rust says.
I have to say this show was one of the best series I’ve ever seen ,it is a very dark subject but unreal writing and the acting from all was superb ... thank you to everyone involved 👍🏼
The first True Detective series was a great piece of art. Great, unforgettable characters, taut and finely executed action, a truly horrific villain, and they stuck the landing.
Rust's speech about letting go to the darkness and being with his daughter is very similar to the conclusion he shared with the two detectives (aka The Locked Room monologue) about how if he looked at pictures of DBs long enough he realised they welcomed death in that last instant. It's very intriguing how one-to-one his feelings of losing shape and dimension in the darkness are to his earlier comments about how all the things one holds to be "person" - one's loves, hates, memories and pains.
@@albundy124 Funny, I always took his philosophy to be a trauma response to the loss of his daughter, given that he had no proof for any of it and then this was him beginning to come to terms with that trauma.
Al Bundy don’t remember mentioning anything to do with Christianity, maybe a vague form of spiritualism. My interpretation was that he clearly felt the way he did because of his loss, otherwise why would he have had a daughter to begin with. Sure you can be a nihilist without trauma but the ones I e meet tend not to be so miserable which Rust appeared to be. I’m a nihilist in that I accept that the universe has no objective meaning other than what we create or assign.
Al Bundy Dude whatever your first language is I guarantee I speak it worse than you speak English so please don’t apologise. I don’t know if he necessarily gave up on his nihilism, I just think he became optimistic as opposed to pessimistic as a result of his experience. Not unusual for people to have moments of clarity when close to death that changes their perspective on major parts of their life.
@@albundy124 I definitely get where you're coming from. It's a lazy writing technique to treat a pessimistic/nihilistic/fatalistic character as someone that needs to be 'cured'. Which is why I loved True Detective so much; Rust was portrayed as the only character in that world who 'knew himself' and could attempt to live honestly within it. Once you realise that the ideas of objective morality, good vs. evil and any form of inherent order are human constructs, you're able to begin shedding the burdens associated with those constructs and begin an attempt at living honestly. That final dialogue at the hospital between Rust and Marty did break with the general tone of Rust's character throughout the rest of the season, but I interpreted it with some sense of irony - Rust proclaiming 'the light's winning' as the camera pans up to the black void of the night sky which is almost totally bereft of any form of light - I don't think Rust is denouncing his nihilism, he's just finally found a way to reconcile his own existence/purpose within a world that is inherently unordered and uncaring. That's also the conclusion that Camus draws in the Myth of Sisyphus: "The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy. In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer." Or it could just be a complete tonal 180 on behalf of Pizzolatto, but I didn't see it like that.
The point of Rust's character is he hasn't given up hope. That's why he does what he does. Read more in between the lines. The ending is completely in accordance with the themes of hos character arc
Look, as sentient meat, however illusory our identities are, we craft those identities by making value judgments: everybody judges, all the time. Now, you got a problem with that... You're livin' wrong.
@@mikeshimek5343 Lol I know. The humor in this scene I think was to illustrate just how much Rust's philosophical ruminations were going over Marty's head when they just met.
A perfect mini series/ contained story to have ever been filmed. I can't even come up with 1 thing bad about it to try and play devil's advocate. Every aspect is impeccable.
@@jackstrand5341 I'd argue that gives it more rewatch ability. And their style of language gives off a mysterious nature, personally I love the dialogue.
@@jackstrand5341 Yeah, i really had to put on subtitles to understand what Rust is talking about, since the way he talks is hard to get. However, i gotta say that it adds more to his mannerisms
I think Rust’s description of dying- falling through something, warm, like a substance- is actually what they think falling through a black hole would feel like. That’s why Nic (insert last name here) who wrote the series described that line as Rust not being sentimental, but rather that his description of what happened is based on physics.
i don’t think it’s first season is it’s peak bc each season is a pretty much a separate story with different themes and this one handled its theme very well compared to the others . The second season is not that good tho as most ppl can agree because it becomes a mafia crime drama more than a dark gritty thriller. i also have to say that season 3 might be on the same level as season 1
Season 3 had promise and good acting. But it unfortunately squandered it with a weak story that just petered out, inevitably becoming irrelevant by the end.
You what this show really was? It was "Lonesome Dove part 2." Harrelson and McConehey did Duval and Jones right proud. The secret? Once again two southerners engaged in an epic southern story ( Duval a Virginian and the other three Texans) taking place in the south, but with absolutely no southern tropes or "good ol boys cartoon characters.
The ending with Rust finally hopeful for a future... finally giving him the peace that he needed... that was perfect. Best season of a show that i've ever watched.
It's not the first time Marty misheard him. There was that time Rust said "like you can smell a psychosphere". Marty in a later scene said "I just want you to stop saying odd shit, like you can smell a psycho's fear." It's funny to think that some percentage of the tension between them is simply from Marty mishearing what Rust says.
"Darkness, yah yeah." - Rust Cohle
I have to say this show was one of the best series I’ve ever seen ,it is a very dark subject but unreal writing and the acting from all was superb ... thank you to everyone involved 👍🏼
The first True Detective series was a great piece of art. Great, unforgettable characters, taut and finely executed action, a truly horrific villain, and they stuck the landing.
Here to see if Marty knows what I am yet.
nice
Rust's speech about letting go to the darkness and being with his daughter is very similar to the conclusion he shared with the two detectives (aka The Locked Room monologue) about how if he looked at pictures of DBs long enough he realised they welcomed death in that last instant. It's very intriguing how one-to-one his feelings of losing shape and dimension in the darkness are to his earlier comments about how all the things one holds to be "person" - one's loves, hates, memories and pains.
Love how Rust goes from basically a nihilist to believing in something.
@@albundy124 Funny, I always took his philosophy to be a trauma response to the loss of his daughter, given that he had no proof for any of it and then this was him beginning to come to terms with that trauma.
Al Bundy don’t remember mentioning anything to do with Christianity, maybe a vague form of spiritualism. My interpretation was that he clearly felt the way he did because of his loss, otherwise why would he have had a daughter to begin with. Sure you can be a nihilist without trauma but the ones I e meet tend not to be so miserable which Rust appeared to be. I’m a nihilist in that I accept that the universe has no objective meaning other than what we create or assign.
Al Bundy Dude whatever your first language is I guarantee I speak it worse than you speak English so please don’t apologise. I don’t know if he necessarily gave up on his nihilism, I just think he became optimistic as opposed to pessimistic as a result of his experience. Not unusual for people to have moments of clarity when close to death that changes their perspective on major parts of their life.
@@albundy124 I definitely get where you're coming from. It's a lazy writing technique to treat a pessimistic/nihilistic/fatalistic character as someone that needs to be 'cured'. Which is why I loved True Detective so much; Rust was portrayed as the only character in that world who 'knew himself' and could attempt to live honestly within it.
Once you realise that the ideas of objective morality, good vs. evil and any form of inherent order are human constructs, you're able to begin shedding the burdens associated with those constructs and begin an attempt at living honestly.
That final dialogue at the hospital between Rust and Marty did break with the general tone of Rust's character throughout the rest of the season, but I interpreted it with some sense of irony - Rust proclaiming 'the light's winning' as the camera pans up to the black void of the night sky which is almost totally bereft of any form of light - I don't think Rust is denouncing his nihilism, he's just finally found a way to reconcile his own existence/purpose within a world that is inherently unordered and uncaring. That's also the conclusion that Camus draws in the Myth of Sisyphus:
"The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy. In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer."
Or it could just be a complete tonal 180 on behalf of Pizzolatto, but I didn't see it like that.
The point of Rust's character is he hasn't given up hope. That's why he does what he does. Read more in between the lines. The ending is completely in accordance with the themes of hos character arc
damm you man !! Now I gotta watch the whole the series again !! Flat Circle.
Oh boy, I know that feeling.
“Once there was only dark. You ask me, the light’s winning.”
I wish I could go back in time and change my senior quote in the high school yearbook
Look, as sentient meat, however illusory our identities are, we craft those identities by making value judgments: everybody judges, all the time. Now, you got a problem with that... You're livin' wrong.
* scented meat
@@TheElMuffin He misheard him when he said "sentient meat" and asked "what's scented meat?"
@@mikeshimek5343 Lol I know. The humor in this scene I think was to illustrate just how much Rust's philosophical ruminations were going over Marty's head when they just met.
@@TheElMuffin the main question is why was Marty thinking about rotten meat when Rust was talking about deep philosophical discovery.
Can u explain wt is scented meat?
A perfect mini series/ contained story to have ever been filmed. I can't even come up with 1 thing bad about it to try and play devil's advocate. Every aspect is impeccable.
The smallest little nitpick would be that it’s kinda hard to understand some of the dialogue
@@jackstrand5341 I'd argue that gives it more rewatch ability. And their style of language gives off a mysterious nature, personally I love the dialogue.
@@dilloncoop2500 no I mean that like, sometimes they mutter or just speak so low you can’t really hear them over the music
@@jackstrand5341 Yeah, i really had to put on subtitles to understand what Rust is talking about, since the way he talks is hard to get.
However, i gotta say that it adds more to his mannerisms
I think Rust’s description of dying- falling through something, warm, like a substance- is actually what they think falling through a black hole would feel like. That’s why Nic (insert last name here) who wrote the series described that line as Rust not being sentimental, but rather that his description of what happened is based on physics.
"Hello Darkness my old Friend"
"Woah, woah now buddy. We ain't friends."
Final otimista. Alívio existencial que o Rust merecia.
I said - darkness - yeaaah... 😂🤘🏼
You obviously have never seen what looks back from one's own darkness
Darkness... alright, alright, alright.
He never got the answer to that question....
He *was* the answer to that question.
I love this season
Rust just wanted to die, dammit. Unfortunately for him, he survived
I think he lost that on the other side.
I think he found a reason to live.
Its a shame when a show peaks its first season.
i don’t think it’s first season is it’s peak bc each season is a pretty much a separate story with different themes and this one handled its theme very well compared to the others . The second season is not that good tho as most ppl can agree because it becomes a mafia crime drama more than a dark gritty thriller. i also have to say that season 3 might be on the same level as season 1
Season 3 had promise and good acting. But it unfortunately squandered it with a weak story that just petered out, inevitably becoming irrelevant by the end.
Kinda like Westworld
Season 3 was amazing. It is comparable to season 1 in quality writing, acting, and the ending is perfect. Season 2 is the only let down.
It's a shame when people can't form their own ideas and just follow the internet dummies.
You what this show really was? It was "Lonesome Dove part 2." Harrelson and McConehey did Duval and Jones right proud. The secret? Once again two southerners engaged in an epic southern story ( Duval a Virginian and the other three Texans) taking place in the south, but with absolutely no southern tropes or "good ol boys cartoon characters.
Thank God Nic didn’t Velcoro my two boys in this season, it might’ve killed me outright.
Sentient being,marty XD
Not scented meat XD
Part world weary Texan law man, part pretentious philosophy undergraduate.