Ultra secret rooms actually have a methodology to finding them, the room connecting to it will always be attatched to a special room, assuming the floor has one of course (curse room, treasure room, challenge room, sacrifice room, etc.). I consistently found the ultra secret room on every floor in a red key run just by checking using this logic.
It actually goes further with the rules. They always spawn one Red Room away from the actual floor rooms and have 2 (preferrably) or 1 Red Room connecting to it which are adjacent to the actual floor rooms. I used these rules in the run I got Red Key early and I left the game with so many Angel Items from both the Ultra Secret Room and many Self Sacrifice Rooms with the one trinket that makes Angels drop regular items.
The gaps that appear on the map are because there is an obstacle on one of the adjacent rooms to where you want to Red Key. Like Secret Rooms, you can't generate a Red Key room if a room around it has an obstacle on one of the walls that would otherwise block the door. If you just look at it, every single Red Key room has 4 exits, and that is a requirement.
im guessing spawn room is probably considered like the boss room in that red rooms cant be attached to it but thats mostly a guess since iv never played and olexas vids are about my only experience with it
Fun fact, thats not always case entirely. I don't know if this can happen in a normal game, but the challenge 44 "Red Redemption", i had it happen that i could generate a red room next to a "closet" room, but whenever i tried to enter, it would instead place me on the normal entrance pf the room, and there would be no door leading back to the red room that i came from. It also happened whenever i tried to enter a room from a blocked side using the red key, it would instead place me on another entrance. But seems like this is exclusive to that challenge tho.
@ 3:02 and 1:38 you can clearly see there's nothing blocking the walls on those rooms, and definitely not for the Item Room and Shop either. the only thing i see that's consistent is that they _were_ possible locations for secret rooms that they are cardinally adjacent to special rooms and adjacent to the super secret room.
fun fact! this is ENTIRELY possible without the console, thanks to 4.5 volt and the doorstop trinket. step 1. enter a room, kill every enemy except for one step 2 : exit the room, the enemies will all respawn, however, you will not lose any battery charge from 4.5 volt. step 3 : find a red key hole, use red key step 4 : repeat step 1 until you've cleared out the entire floor of red rooms
@@mintymechanic8420 absolutely, even simply bombing the door with golden bombs would work too, as long as you can exit before killing every enemy you can get infinite red key charges
you know what'd be an insanely good/borderline broken item? red bombs, red bombs basically give you +5 bombs like the other bomb items but also allows you to bomb into red rooms (perhaps 2 bombs per entry as to not make it completely busted, one to reveal the door and one to open it)
Make it like a golden heart overlay. Hold down E for a charge time and you can spend 5 red bombs a floor. Doesn’t synergise with dr Fetus and golden bombs won’t affect it
Ultra secret room is easier to find later in the game. It doesn’t just generate one layer off of the map, it has a set of rules for generation, like normal and super secret rooms. If possible, it will always be connected to at least 2 red rooms that aren’t connected to the same normal room.
@@PukeTops Nah it would have to have some kinda major debuff, like no natural item rooms or smth. Maybe just a challenge and not a character, idk, but red key shenanigans are too fun and hype to not include in the character pool
story time: one time i was playing t. eden and got missing powter back in depths 2. since i didint have the lost at the time, sacrifice rooms came first. of course, the game didint want to give me those, just like 2 times before, however this time was different. in cathedral, i explored the whole floor just to see no sacrifice room. i lost hope, but saw a cracked key i left behind, so i tried opening an ultra secret room. i got it, but what did i see? the red room had spikes in the center. that was probably the most lucky lost unlock
reson for the gap is because there is room for the other secret room you get from a trinket even if you dont own it. Its to avoid bugs so they leave always one free spot. If you took the trinked and reloaded the floor at this exact spot you would have a secret room. Thiis is also why there is always actually 2 spots where a secret room can generate. You never were wrong if you seen a perfect spot for a secret room and it did not open. You just found the spot where one with the trinket would generate.
Or even worse: try and do it legitimately with Red redemption's unlimited Red key charges and try and get every room with the absurd amounts of Esau chasing you.
4.5volt + doorstop/Mercurius, is how you do this legit. But even without that, you can probably still get like 3-4 Red Rooms (since the chances of the red room being a fight is pretty high), and since Ultra Secret Room DOES have a spawn rule to it, you may be able to find it every other floor, which is very valuable. This item is definitely one of those that can break the game in moments if it feels like it. But it may not save a run unless the stars align. Also with the amount of resources it generates you can visit I AM ERROR rooms and tp out too.
20:50 true that is a devil deal that exists on that floor already, but keep in mind olexa that you can't get into that devil deal unless you lucked out on a red chest or got a teleport 2.0 or got a joker card. The reason you got into that devil deal is because you opened a red chest in a red room, resulting in it being red key's fault.
I'm almost sure that the 2 non boss room adjacent rooms you couldn't open were rooms that had something blocking the door spawn, like roocks or pots, I think red key follows the same rules for secret room spawns when making a new room, you have to be able to acess it from all sides
FUN FACT, red key rooms CAN spawn off boss rooms, but only on xl floors! it will only spawn off of the first boss room. this is likely there to prevent door overwriting
Yeah, this feature is there to stop you from generating a red room entrance over something like a devil deal that would spawn after defeating the boss, that's why it's not needed on the first boss of XL floors
Red Redemption changes the way red rooms work, for example allowing them to appear next to boss rooms. That challenge maximizes what you can do with red ley and gives you infinite uses of Red key. Of course, if you do use Red key to explore th entire floor, you'll probably end up with like 50 Dark Esaus.
Ultra secret rooms can be exited using red key, you just have to bomb the walls after unlocking them, found this out on a dr. fetus run while using red key
This is why this item is my absolute favourite. I had a run where I found it in corpse and because of sharp plug and 9 volt I would do a room, take a heart of damage, which I would usually get back because of old bandage, and then do another room and I did the entire floor.
Found out today on a Bethany red key run that when you open the door to a red room from inside the ultra secret room you have to bomb the wall to open the door
Okay, so this makes me want to see a run of: - Gulped golden crystal key - book of revelations (wisps can unlock doors) - car battery + 9 volt + golden aaa battery
Soul of cain and clear rune is probably easier to 'red key' break the whole floor since its 6 charges for all 3 adjacent rooms. Something like sharp plug and health regeneration via stuff like lil chad, gimpy (very strong with sharp plug), old bandage, the like, and you can easily 13x13 the whole floor.
I actually broke the game earlier today with a like 2-hour run with Red Key. I got it on the very first floor and used the Ultra Secret Room spawning rules to find the rooms on my way down. By Catacombs 2 I had some nice synergies for generating hearts (especially Spirit Hearts) and I had the Filigree Feather trinket. I found so many Sacrifice Rooms that I left the Mausoleum on my way to Home with like, 10+ Angel Items from the many Angel Battles in those Sacrifice Rooms. When one of those items turned out to be The Stairway, that basically meant I could fight Angels on every floor from Depths 2 and up for even more Angel Items. It was kind of insane and I was living for it, lol.
Ed: "I love the Red Key! Can we make it stronger?" Vinh: "Why do you have that devilish look on your face?" Olexa: Just nods and agrees with Ed. #welcometorepentance
I'd love to see a Challenge like this, where there is only a couple floors, but you can't enter the boss room until you have cleared the entire Red floor.
24:50 I'm assuming that's because it's reserved for the second super secret room if your holding fragmented card. If you hold that trinket an additional super secret room will spawn.
Not pictured here is that you can find Planetariums with the Red Key. On the whole compared to Antibirth it definitely got a nerf as it used to generate a lot more special rooms iirc. Still a good item though.
It's funny I did this to beat the red redemption challenge on my first try, not getting hit is relatively easy on floor 1 so just killing off Spooky Ghost Brother and literally full clearing can get you a lot of power. In terms of practical red key use once you learn how ultra secret rooms spawn you can almost always find them for a free angel item.
It could be very interesting to try to trace a path that allows you to visit every single red room, this having all the information about the floor. That something I would love to watch, both the game play and the process
So what I’m hearing is, you really just want to go one square off from the main path to get the ultra secret room. Also Bethany w/ Red Key is gonna be *chefs kiss*
I'm guess that the reason those 5 rooms were unable to be opened was because the special rooms ( shop treasure room ) can only have 3 exits at max (entrance,secret,super secret) and then there's the boss room which can only spawn specific rooms + exit/entrance those being the special door to the alt floor and the angel and devil rooms (both at once with duality )
When using Red Key, you can navigate to the sides of special rooms if possible, then get into them without having to use resources So it also saves you bombs and keys since you can get into item rooms, shops, bedrooms, and dice rooms for free
I believe the way you judge how far out you can go before reaching the I Am Error room is based on Spawn. Spawn is the center of the grid in normal mode, if I remember correctly. Don't know about Red Redemption challenge, since that one's weird.
Something I just thought about, is that because yes a red room can be a dice room that means a 5 pip dice meaning you can start the floor over meaning even MORE red rooms
3:09 There is at least one exception that i know for sure, I was able to generate red key room next to bess room on XL level with one of the rooms bring 2 by 1
I did red redemption in about 10 tries. The two times i got the closest to winning (including the one time i won) is because i got a random planetarium as a red room. The red key is so cool IMO, but it's not powerful enough to warrant a 4 room charge. 2 room charge would make it cool to use in normal runs
Something you could have done was gone to the I am error room at the very end because you can get items in there too, plus you can escape it too if you have teleport card.
I suggest to verify your theory about no adjescent red rooms to the Boss room in the VOID. There will be one more room that will go 'out of the boundaries' - the error room allowing you to reset the floor ( same as the 5-dotted room ).
To give an idea of how likely any particular red key use is to be good: 15.76% Item chance (including gold chest items)=26/165 8.48% Special rooms=14/165 12.7% Key Chance 25.7% bomb chance 8.5% card chance 4.2% spirit heart chance So, to add these up (and remember, we can't count special rooms and items twice because the special rooms give items) 15.8+12.7+25.7+8.5+4.2=67% chance using the key will get you at least a bomb Although this has to be mitigated by the fact that a lot of these items were blocked off by rocks or hazards, so unless you have flight this chance drops dramatically. Now I didn't go back and count the number of items that weren't accessible without bombs/flight but I'd say the chance probably drops to about 40% that the room will give anything more than a coin. So in other words, using this paper napkin math that I haven't fact checked at all, in a normal run red key will at worst give you a bomb every eight rooms, and at best give you an angel item and the bookworm transformation
I've not found one since unlocking it but I imagine I'd use it to get an "I am error" room after every floor where I get enough charge. Plus, you can use it to find secret rooms since the doorway outline won't show if there is a room behind the wall
would be a cool mod.... Red Key Master U have to finish all red rooms to get to next floor until mom and all enemies in there are champions... and you only get ONE bonus item per floor
Red key with debug 8 is somewhat like getting into the Void in Pokemon. You don't know where you will get, you don't know if you'll die, you're just exploring the unexplorable.
I started an Eden run where I got it as my starting item, then got sharp plug later on. The wafer was my first item room item. I got lucky with the health drops and later on in the womb I was actually able to unlock all of the because of how much health I had. Plus I ended up with eleven luck and gimpy, with a red heart super secret room. I had guppy's head and the school bag and just spent three minutes generating flies, because I couldn't take out more than three hearts without dropping one, so I could just do in infinitely. The boss died very quickly and I didn't even bother continuing past Isaac. But that's also because I accidentally entered the I am error room on depths II before I could fight mom, so I didn't have the poloroid or the negative.
Not sure if you tested this in the void, but I got it during a casual run and you can make red key doors in the Delerium boss room. Not sure if this is because of how it shows as a standard room on the map and the actual room is giant, but just wanted to let you know that at least one boss room can have a red key on it Edit: I checked wiki and it confirmed what I said, but it was wrong cuz it said you can’t make it inside the boss room. During the Delerium fight, I made the doors as I was fighting him in an attempt to escape, but they were locked. After I beat him I was able to enter, but a massive gap was between the red key room and Delerium’s room
If you think this was stupid, I did this for every single room on a room…
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@@Bumblebirb1 on a room.
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Ultra secret rooms actually have a methodology to finding them, the room connecting to it will always be attatched to a special room, assuming the floor has one of course (curse room, treasure room, challenge room, sacrifice room, etc.). I consistently found the ultra secret room on every floor in a red key run just by checking using this logic.
that makes sense
It actually goes further with the rules. They always spawn one Red Room away from the actual floor rooms and have 2 (preferrably) or 1 Red Room connecting to it which are adjacent to the actual floor rooms. I used these rules in the run I got Red Key early and I left the game with so many Angel Items from both the Ultra Secret Room and many Self Sacrifice Rooms with the one trinket that makes Angels drop regular items.
@@Kaeridan Good to know! Thanks for the further info
@@Kaeridan Filigree Feather the trinket
@@LKSgm Yes.
The gaps that appear on the map are because there is an obstacle on one of the adjacent rooms to where you want to Red Key. Like Secret Rooms, you can't generate a Red Key room if a room around it has an obstacle on one of the walls that would otherwise block the door. If you just look at it, every single Red Key room has 4 exits, and that is a requirement.
im guessing spawn room is probably considered like the boss room in that red rooms cant be attached to it but thats mostly a guess since iv never played and olexas vids are about my only experience with it
I like the fact that the gaps make a smile
Fun fact, thats not always case entirely.
I don't know if this can happen in a normal game, but the challenge 44 "Red Redemption", i had it happen that i could generate a red room next to a "closet" room, but whenever i tried to enter, it would instead place me on the normal entrance pf the room, and there would be no door leading back to the red room that i came from.
It also happened whenever i tried to enter a room from a blocked side using the red key, it would instead place me on another entrance.
But seems like this is exclusive to that challenge tho.
@ 3:02 and 1:38 you can clearly see there's nothing blocking the walls on those rooms, and definitely not for the Item Room and Shop either.
the only thing i see that's consistent is that they _were_ possible locations for secret rooms that they are cardinally adjacent to special rooms and adjacent to the super secret room.
@@Templarfreak Enemies count as obstacles, they spawned in a way that wouldn't let u go there. time 2.24
Now we need an XXXXXXXXXXXXXL challenge where every floor is 13x13
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10 bosses
So that's why delirium floor is so big!
Don't let ed hear you say that
olexa misplacing the bomb and thinking that wasnt where the secret room is is truly a mattman moment
This item is a minmaxer's wet dream and worst nightmare at the same time
Worst nightmare? My brother in Jesus's Juice, I have a Red Key bodypillow standing right by my bed as I am writing this.
fun fact! this is ENTIRELY possible without the console, thanks to 4.5 volt and the doorstop trinket.
step 1. enter a room, kill every enemy except for one
step 2 : exit the room, the enemies will all respawn, however, you will not lose any battery charge from 4.5 volt.
step 3 : find a red key hole, use red key
step 4 : repeat step 1 until you've cleared out the entire floor of red rooms
Would Mercurius work just as well?
@@mintymechanic8420 yes, the items work the same
@@mintymechanic8420 absolutely, even simply bombing the door with golden bombs would work too, as long as you can exit before killing every enemy you can get infinite red key charges
Yeah, but this would take so long and seems quite tedious compared to other game breaks.
Cool new break
Is Red Key good?
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Y e s.
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This item brings a whole new meaning to "Full Clearing" floors lol
the gaps in the red world made a smiley face :)
I thought this was really cute :D what a coincidence
its a :>
You forgot to go into the I am error room, that counts as part of the package deal
Also could have used the sacrifice room.
also all the stuff on the floor you could pick up once you had flight you never went back for
Also he didn't use his judgement card which would be been another item
It really annoyed me that he didn't minmax lol
Just make sure to disable the debug console before recording a new run ;)
Don’tchu worry I ain’t making that mistake again lol
uhh it happened before? is there a video of it and if so can i be directed to it?
@@sirhc199331 ruclips.net/video/BjsmiP_acNE/видео.html video has top quality banter but didn't unlock anything sadly
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@Hood Milk @@trivia_dex thanks
you know what'd be an insanely good/borderline broken item? red bombs, red bombs basically give you +5 bombs like the other bomb items but also allows you to bomb into red rooms (perhaps 2 bombs per entry as to not make it completely busted, one to reveal the door and one to open it)
Laughs is dr fetus (it’ll take forever cuz nerf but whatever
Golden Bomb: Allow me to introduce myself
Make it like a golden heart overlay. Hold down E for a charge time and you can spend 5 red bombs a floor. Doesn’t synergise with dr Fetus and golden bombs won’t affect it
Ultra secret room is easier to find later in the game. It doesn’t just generate one layer off of the map, it has a set of rules for generation, like normal and super secret rooms. If possible, it will always be connected to at least 2 red rooms that aren’t connected to the same normal room.
Red key is possibly the coolest active item in TBOI
Yeah, it is!!!
I want a character that spawns with it.
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnly
lol OP as hell
@@PukeTops Nah it would have to have some kinda major debuff, like no natural item rooms or smth. Maybe just a challenge and not a character, idk, but red key shenanigans are too fun and hype to not include in the character pool
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnly I agree with you
He's talking about things during the Ragman fight and I'm busy thinking "yeah Ragman is still Chinese water torture, lol".
Now do it again with planetariums unlocked
now do it again with your brain unlocked
@@theultimatetrashman887 ight i gotchu
Love how this one item created what is essentially isaacs version of the backrooms
Oh boy. I can't wait to give Hutts this thing on every single floor as a challenge
story time: one time i was playing t. eden and got missing powter back in depths 2. since i didint have the lost at the time, sacrifice rooms came first. of course, the game didint want to give me those, just like 2 times before, however this time was different. in cathedral, i explored the whole floor just to see no sacrifice room. i lost hope, but saw a cracked key i left behind, so i tried opening an ultra secret room. i got it, but what did i see? the red room had spikes in the center. that was probably the most lucky lost unlock
I think this is going to be the new Issac streaming meta. Very easy 5+ hours on one game clearing every room.
reson for the gap is because there is room for the other secret room you get from a trinket even if you dont own it. Its to avoid bugs so they leave always one free spot. If you took the trinked and reloaded the floor at this exact spot you would have a secret room. Thiis is also why there is always actually 2 spots where a secret room can generate. You never were wrong if you seen a perfect spot for a secret room and it did not open. You just found the spot where one with the trinket would generate.
Imagine someone takes red key and infinite charges, and challanges themselves to get every possible room on every possible floor
I wanna do it tbh. But we’d probably do it on stream
Or even worse: try and do it legitimately with Red redemption's unlimited Red key charges and try and get every room with the absurd amounts of Esau chasing you.
Red Key in generel is super intresting. My first red room gave me sacred heart :D
Good for you. Mine gave me tainted Isaac.
@@powerofthec5908 mine gave me Tainted Forgotten
@@arek.k8688 mine gave me tainted Judas
The gap is probably due to rocks blocking a wall, preventing an adjacent room from existing.
That would be a dope Livestream, a possible 4 hour run, all red key rooms from basement to Depths 2 just to see how powerful you can get.
Red Key, D20, and Teleport 2.0 are the kings of "guess I'm not making Boss Rush or Hush."
7:21 "blank card and jera"
Me: *cries*
The "red rédemption" challenge convinced me that red Key is an excellent excellent item, among the best in the game for sure.
It's a free angel room every floor, basically
4.5volt + doorstop/Mercurius, is how you do this legit.
But even without that, you can probably still get like 3-4 Red Rooms (since the chances of the red room being a fight is pretty high), and since Ultra Secret Room DOES have a spawn rule to it, you may be able to find it every other floor, which is very valuable.
This item is definitely one of those that can break the game in moments if it feels like it. But it may not save a run unless the stars align.
Also with the amount of resources it generates you can visit I AM ERROR rooms and tp out too.
20:50 true that is a devil deal that exists on that floor already, but keep in mind olexa that you can't get into that devil deal unless you lucked out on a red chest or got a teleport 2.0 or got a joker card. The reason you got into that devil deal is because you opened a red chest in a red room, resulting in it being red key's fault.
yeah but if he didn't get hit thru the entire floor or just got generally lucky he would've found it anyway
@@Renteks- no it was floor 1
I'm almost sure that the 2 non boss room adjacent rooms you couldn't open were rooms that had something blocking the door spawn, like roocks or pots, I think red key follows the same rules for secret room spawns when making a new room, you have to be able to acess it from all sides
FUN FACT, red key rooms CAN spawn off boss rooms, but only on xl floors! it will only spawn off of the first boss room. this is likely there to prevent door overwriting
Yeah, this feature is there to stop you from generating a red room entrance over something like a devil deal that would spawn after defeating the boss, that's why it's not needed on the first boss of XL floors
What about the boss rooms on the void? Would it only prevent red rooms next to Delirium's boss room?
Your mic is so clear and nice, it sounds like it was recorded in post.
Red key, the item to noclip out of reality into the backrooms.
The red basement incident
Infinite basement: and I a joke to you?
Red Redemption changes the way red rooms work, for example allowing them to appear next to boss rooms. That challenge maximizes what you can do with red ley and gives you infinite uses of Red key. Of course, if you do use Red key to explore th entire floor, you'll probably end up with like 50 Dark Esaus.
Damn Isaac’s mom really has the backrooms underneath her house…
Fun fact: In Red Redemption, if you somehow find the D100, it will recharge the red key on use, so you can get a run like this legally
"..that allows us to buy money from the shop.." The Hell?
Well there could be a wooden nickel or a crooked penny in there.
@@someonehungarian9002 Lol yes, I suppose that's true
@@Humblemumble7 sacks as well
@@boa_firebrand sacks arent garanteed to drop coins, i have seen a sack that only dropped bombs and keys.
You could probably make a 101 facts about red key video at this rate, what a crazy fun item!
Ultra secret rooms can be exited using red key, you just have to bomb the walls after unlocking them, found this out on a dr. fetus run while using red key
Ultra Secret room is also accessible via "The Moon?" card.
I just started watching but the production value on this is pog
This is why this item is my absolute favourite. I had a run where I found it in corpse and because of sharp plug and 9 volt I would do a room, take a heart of damage, which I would usually get back because of old bandage, and then do another room and I did the entire floor.
Found out today on a Bethany red key run that when you open the door to a red room from inside the ultra secret room you have to bomb the wall to open the door
Okay, so this makes me want to see a run of:
- Gulped golden crystal key
- book of revelations (wisps can unlock doors)
- car battery + 9 volt + golden aaa battery
the blank rooms made a little smiley 28:53
Olexa "In total there are 169 rooms" me "noice"
I walked in an item room with red key, used it once, and it led to a red secret room with sacred heart kek
NOOT NOOT
Pingu os jealous
Red key op plz nerf
Soul of cain and clear rune is probably easier to 'red key' break the whole floor since its 6 charges for all 3 adjacent rooms. Something like sharp plug and health regeneration via stuff like lil chad, gimpy (very strong with sharp plug), old bandage, the like, and you can easily 13x13 the whole floor.
With all the rocks, fires, pots, and poops you left behind, I'd bet the total would be a smidge higher.
I actually broke the game earlier today with a like 2-hour run with Red Key. I got it on the very first floor and used the Ultra Secret Room spawning rules to find the rooms on my way down. By Catacombs 2 I had some nice synergies for generating hearts (especially Spirit Hearts) and I had the Filigree Feather trinket. I found so many Sacrifice Rooms that I left the Mausoleum on my way to Home with like, 10+ Angel Items from the many Angel Battles in those Sacrifice Rooms. When one of those items turned out to be The Stairway, that basically meant I could fight Angels on every floor from Depths 2 and up for even more Angel Items. It was kind of insane and I was living for it, lol.
Imagine traveling so far you reach I am error room
Small fact: you can check secret and super secret rooms with red/cracked key
Ed: "I love the Red Key! Can we make it stronger?"
Vinh: "Why do you have that devilish look on your face?"
Olexa: Just nods and agrees with Ed.
#welcometorepentance
I'd love to see a Challenge like this, where there is only a couple floors, but you can't enter the boss room until you have cleared the entire Red floor.
red redemption is kinda like this, it has rooms spread around the map with huge gaps and you need to use red key to get to them
@@dawidosono6043 Is that a new Challenge? I haven't unlocked them all yet
@@Zand3rParkour ye, not going to tell how to unlock it cuz spoilers
@@dawidosono6043 No worries
@@Zand3rParkour im just gonna say that it involves one of the new chars and red key
24:50
I'm assuming that's because it's reserved for the second super secret room if your holding fragmented card. If you hold that trinket an additional super secret room will spawn.
Good job on the video , it got randomly recommended to me . I appreciate the effort !!
Hey olexa this video is awesome i love how you did some edit at the start good vid dude!!
Not pictured here is that you can find Planetariums with the Red Key. On the whole compared to Antibirth it definitely got a nerf as it used to generate a lot more special rooms iirc. Still a good item though.
Take a shot every time he says "as a result of red key".
This video was fascinating! Red Key looks like a fun item and this video shows it off very well. I’d love to see more content like this!
It's funny I did this to beat the red redemption challenge on my first try, not getting hit is relatively easy on floor 1 so just killing off Spooky Ghost Brother and literally full clearing can get you a lot of power.
In terms of practical red key use once you learn how ultra secret rooms spawn you can almost always find them for a free angel item.
“Did you full clear the floor?”
“YEAH”
It could be very interesting to try to trace a path that allows you to visit every single red room, this having all the information about the floor. That something I would love to watch, both the game play and the process
So what I’m hearing is, you really just want to go one square off from the main path to get the ultra secret room.
Also Bethany w/ Red Key is gonna be *chefs kiss*
I like the fact that the gaps made a little smiley face.
24:50 my guess is that space is reserved for the trinket that creates 2 secret rooms. fragmented card "double moon" i think it is.
I assume there was a 3-way room south from that gap, with a rock in top middle or something, so secret rooms can't spawn there
This video was very interesting and formatted in a nice way. Good video keep it up
12:20 red key can force an error room if you go outside the 13x13 boundary (only possible from another red room) so maybe that's what happened?
I'm guess that the reason those 5 rooms were unable to be opened was because the special rooms ( shop treasure room ) can only have 3 exits at max (entrance,secret,super secret) and then there's the boss room which can only spawn specific rooms + exit/entrance those being the special door to the alt floor and the angel and devil rooms (both at once with duality )
Feel like sharp plug with tainted maggie would provide a lot of charges considering you get double healing and enemies that spawn.
When using Red Key, you can navigate to the sides of special rooms if possible, then get into them without having to use resources
So it also saves you bombs and keys since you can get into item rooms, shops, bedrooms, and dice rooms for free
I believe the way you judge how far out you can go before reaching the I Am Error room is based on Spawn. Spawn is the center of the grid in normal mode, if I remember correctly. Don't know about Red Redemption challenge, since that one's weird.
Cool video, would have been nice to see a grand finale though, like fighting a boss or entering the error room
Something I just thought about, is that because yes a red room can be a dice room that means a 5 pip dice meaning you can start the floor over meaning even MORE red rooms
3:09 There is at least one exception that i know for sure, I was able to generate red key room next to bess room on XL level with one of the rooms bring 2 by 1
I did red redemption in about 10 tries. The two times i got the closest to winning (including the one time i won) is because i got a random planetarium as a red room. The red key is so cool IMO, but it's not powerful enough to warrant a 4 room charge. 2 room charge would make it cool to use in normal runs
i choose to believe those two gaps are there so it makes a smiley face
Something you could have done was gone to the I am error room at the very end because you can get items in there too, plus you can escape it too if you have teleport card.
I suggest to verify your theory about no adjescent red rooms to the Boss room in the VOID. There will be one more room that will go 'out of the boundaries' - the error room allowing you to reset the floor ( same as the 5-dotted room ).
I want to see a full run like this now
This is a very informative and fun video, thank you!
To give an idea of how likely any particular red key use is to be good:
15.76% Item chance (including gold chest items)=26/165
8.48% Special rooms=14/165
12.7% Key Chance
25.7% bomb chance
8.5% card chance
4.2% spirit heart chance
So, to add these up (and remember, we can't count special rooms and items twice because the special rooms give items)
15.8+12.7+25.7+8.5+4.2=67% chance using the key will get you at least a bomb
Although this has to be mitigated by the fact that a lot of these items were blocked off by rocks or hazards, so unless you have flight this chance drops dramatically. Now I didn't go back and count the number of items that weren't accessible without bombs/flight but I'd say the chance probably drops to about 40% that the room will give anything more than a coin. So in other words, using this paper napkin math that I haven't fact checked at all, in a normal run red key will at worst give you a bomb every eight rooms, and at best give you an angel item and the bookworm transformation
This was a really fun vid!
There was a black heart that the little bum dropped and he didn't see
I've not found one since unlocking it but I imagine I'd use it to get an "I am error" room after every floor where I get enough charge.
Plus, you can use it to find secret rooms since the doorway outline won't show if there is a room behind the wall
Take a shot every time this guy says the word benefit. In all seriousness tho, great video :)
would be a cool mod....
Red Key Master
U have to finish all red rooms to get to next floor until mom and all enemies in there are champions... and you only get ONE bonus item per floor
The blank rooms made a smiley face:)
Red key with debug 8 is somewhat like getting into the Void in Pokemon. You don't know where you will get, you don't know if you'll die, you're just exploring the unexplorable.
Yes please do this on every floor, this is fine entertainment.
11:41 "looking for a damage up"
cat o 9 tail: "am i joke to you"
Incomprehensible, thank you
I started an Eden run where I got it as my starting item, then got sharp plug later on. The wafer was my first item room item. I got lucky with the health drops and later on in the womb I was actually able to unlock all of the because of how much health I had. Plus I ended up with eleven luck and gimpy, with a red heart super secret room. I had guppy's head and the school bag and just spent three minutes generating flies, because I couldn't take out more than three hearts without dropping one, so I could just do in infinitely. The boss died very quickly and I didn't even bother continuing past Isaac. But that's also because I accidentally entered the I am error room on depths II before I could fight mom, so I didn't have the poloroid or the negative.
A good way to get easy Infinite battery charges for a red key break, would be using Tainted Maggy + Mitre, it really is that simple.
now do an entire run like that, image over 100 rooms in the chest
Not sure if you tested this in the void, but I got it during a casual run and you can make red key doors in the Delerium boss room. Not sure if this is because of how it shows as a standard room on the map and the actual room is giant, but just wanted to let you know that at least one boss room can have a red key on it
Edit: I checked wiki and it confirmed what I said, but it was wrong cuz it said you can’t make it inside the boss room. During the Delerium fight, I made the doors as I was fighting him in an attempt to escape, but they were locked. After I beat him I was able to enter, but a massive gap was between the red key room and Delerium’s room