Remember: The Lord has given you this day of rest as a holy day. That’s why he gives you enough food on the sixth day for two days. *On the seventh day stay in your place-no one is to go out. Everyone, stay where you are.”* Exodus 16:29 GW *Do not bring anything out of your homes on the day of rest.* Do not do any work, but observe the day of rest as a holy day, as I told your ancestors. Jeremiah 17:22 GW
I'm not supporting that we should be making online transactions on the Sabbath, but I think these verses don't really help the argument, because modern online methods are allowing people to make such payments in the comfort of their homes, without “going out”, “bringing anything out of their homes”, or even interacting with another person in doing that. So I think the real emphasis should be on not doing any commercial activity, i.e., buying or selling
The emphasis should be on what the scriptures say, not on the ways of the world that we have been forced to conform to, making the word of God of no effect in our lives (Romans 12:2, Mark 7:13). A day of rest from all your labours; feeding your chickens, cooking, teaching, playing games, etc. (Isaiah 58:13), for example; anything which you have to rest after doing it, then you are not resting (Exodus 16:4). You have 6 days to do all the transactions that you have to do, restructure your life to have a clear and appointment free daytime on Saturday, to Sit at Home or stay where you are, to rest and refresh your spirit, soul and body (Exodus 31:17) [or the doctor will soon be prescribing bed rest for you]. There is a reason God gave us this commandment, and keeping to His instructions and ways, is what makes your ways prosperous, and have a good success. The scriptures are there to shine a light on where you are going. ... *If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee,* ... for I am the Lord that healeth thee. Exodus 15:26 KJV
And what about training programmes run on Sabbaths usually for church officers? And what about fees charged and paid on Sabbaths where a term like 'day visitors' is used to raise money from those who may not have booked to camp over a weekend for example? Is this not breaking the Sabbath? God bless.
What about automated transactions that take place on the sabbath for the use of paying a bill? Is this wrong. As they do not require any labor or take away our focus from the sabbath. Or with regards to the topping up of credit?
That money is to be used for feeding/ giving it to the poor. For example I worked as a caregiver for years when Im schedule on that day, I pray as to whom singularly or split into two and silently in an envelope give them. 😊 And it's always on time for the person because they just prayed for their need. It comes like I worked free on Sabbath. Usually it's person in church the poor will always be with us. I hope I've answered your question ⁉️😊❤
Physicians need to cultivate a spirit of self-denial and self-sacrifice. It may be necessary to devote even the hours of the holy Sabbath to the relief of suffering humanity. But the fee for such labor should be put into the treasury of the Lord, to be used for the worthy poor, who need medical skill but cannot afford to pay for it.--Health, Philanthropic, and Medical Missionary Work, page 42. {MM 216.2}
They say kids can't sit still is that why some people can't stay home and pray to the Lord and study his word on the Sabbath? Then fellowship on the sunday?
KJV Exodus 35:3 3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day. : "As Mrs. E. G. White's daughter-in-law, I was a member of her household for a little more than a year, and was often in her home and travelled with her over a period of twenty years. I have been asked concerning the Sabbath meals in the White home. "As full preparation as was possible was made on Friday, the preparation day, for the Sabbath meals. On Sabbath the food for both breakfast and dinner was served hot, it having been heated immediately preceding the meal. All unnecessary work was avoided on the Sabbath but at no time did Mrs. White consider it a violation of proper Sabbath observance to provide for the ordinary comforts of life such as the building of a fire for the heating of the house or the heating of the food for the meals."-(Signed) Mrs. W. C. White. 3SM 263.1 Soon after the return into the wilderness, an instance of Sabbath violation occurred, under circumstances that rendered it a case of peculiar guilt. The Lord's announcement that He would disinherit Israel had roused a spirit of rebellion. One of the people, angry at being excluded from Canaan, and determined to show his defiance of God's law, ventured upon the open transgression of the fourth commandment by going out to gather sticks upon the Sabbath. During the sojourn in the wilderness the kindling of fires upon the seventh day had been strictly prohibited. The prohibition was not to extend to the land of Canaan, where the severity of the climate would often render fires a necessity; but in the wilderness, fire was not needed for warmth. The act of this man was a willful and deliberate violation of the fourth commandment-a sin, not of thoughtlessness or ignorance, but of presumption. PP 408.4
What was he talking about when he included the years 31 & 34 ??? Also I wish he would have explained why he said Judas committed suicide because he was expecting to gain wealth or whatever. 🤔 🤔
Why can't you pay tithes and offerings during the week and if you call the Sabbath a day of worship then are you not worshipping money as well?? Jesus said render the owner of the inscription and then render what is God's to God ( you can't worship God and mammon you must love one and hate the other). Besides the study done that showed that money has more germs than a toilet seat
The Sabbath begins Friday evening. Like the bible says,the evening and the morning. They were created on the sixth day so their first day was Sabbath which they rested and kept. Genesis 2:1
Just to add some observations of creation completed and before God rested . Created Adam and Eve on 6th so there very first day was 7th and just visualise them opening their eyes in Garden and having to explore beauty animals and birds and and ...How could they open their eyes on Sabbath but only rest on the first day opening their eyes. Wow. Something not adding up here. Not commanded to keep Sabbath. First time Sabbath introduced was to the Israelites came from slavery .
@Kenneth Rass "Remember the Sabbath day *to keep it holy* Why? "For *in six days the Lord made heaven and earth* , and rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord...hallowed it" (Exodus 20:8-11). "There *remains* a rest to the people of God. For he that enters into His rest he *also* ceases from his work as God ceased from His. Let us therefore labor to enter into that rest" (Hebrews 4:9-11). That's why after Paul spoke "the *Gentiles* begged that the same words be spoken to them the next Sabbath", as they advanced in "the *grace* of God" (Acts 13:42,43). The following "Sabbath day almost the whole city came to hear the word of God" (verse 44).
They were created on the sixth day, so their first day was Sabbath Preparation (what most people call Friday)... their first FULL day may have been the Sabbath, but their first DAY was Sabbath Preparation (commonly known as Friday)... God would have spent the day (6th day) with Adam and Eve instructing them on the ways of this and that... after spending the 6th day with Adam and Eve, God then made the Sabbath for man, Mark 2:27... So, the 6th day was Adam and Eve's first day, and they spent the first Sabbath with God...
The fall was before the earth was created... Lucifer became jealous that the Father and Son discussed the creation without him... Lucifer felt that, because he was a covering cherub, that he should have been included in the plans for creation...
How can an angel "Lucifer" feel to have the right to be worshiped like Jesus( being God) and get angry because he feel jealous? It does not make sense to me!!!
Dear soul, "Can you by searching find out God?" or anything infinite, eternal, or something that was ions in operation? "It is as high as heaven, what can you do; deeper than all the hosts of hell, how could you know? (Job 11:7,8). The measure of Lucifer's mind "is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea" (verse 9). That's why even people as brilliantly perfect as Adam & Eve were no match for Satan--"that old serpent the devil who deceives the *whole* world" (Revelation 12:9).
Early writings reading really surprising quite from EGW pastor read. Strange how Jesus already placed next to Lucifer is a huge false reason why the church equates Jesus and Lucifer next to each other. Sorry what? Jesus were not titled son but was God the word. Now you can see the problemi find referring to Jesus as an angel like Lucifer . Don't accept Ellen did not see these things and the word became flesh and begotten born through the virgin start of using SON. Was no angel before Christ came to earth. Some false quotes read from EGW ....totally false .She did not see those things must have been copied from some one else books. Falsehood in this
Satan was never a good angel. Jesus says he is evil from the beginning. God created him at arms length a croocked serpent, a piercing serpent (Isaiah 27:1, Job 26:13,Gen 3:1-2 ) The Lucifer theory is a Christian hoax designed to deceive many.
How do you explain Adam and Eve keeping the first Sabbath when you say God did not sanctify and bless the Sabbath till it was over as you said? And that from a God Who knows the end from before hand. According to what you teach, God did not establish the Sabbath till it was over. I believe it was different than that. What time of the day, on the first Sabbath, do you say God established and blessed Sabbath? Because,as you teach, Adam and Eve could not keep the first Sabbath because it, according to your teaching, was not establish till it was over. Or the First Sabbath was unconsciously kept unaware of the fact, which is automatically somehow.? The only way that could happen is that Adam and Eve spent the first Sabbath in the very presence of God.
Hi there, this is actually a great question. I will try. consider the fact that God never did any work at all on this day. He finished all work on the six then He watched all things come together on the sabbath. From the first to the sixth day of creation was brought together on His day of rest. After His surveillance of His creation, He hallowed the seventh day. Mind you this was His practice as well in heaven. Therefore, He made the sabbath day on earth as well then pass it on to our earthly parents. Genesis 1:31, says and God saw that every thing that He made , and behold, it was very good. Genesis 2:1 thus the heaven and earth were finished and all the host of them. And He rested on the seventh day. Verse 3 said and God blessed the sabbath day and sanctified it because in it He had rested from all His work which He created and made. I hope this clears up some of the confusion that you might have had. God bless you
Tiger, you answered your own question in the very last line. Adam and Eve spent that first Sabbath in the very presence of God. It was what He designed the Sabbath for. For man to spend the entire day with Him and reflect over all the things God has created and done.
God rested on the 1st Sabbath with Adam and Eve. That just makes sense. Do you think while God rested Adam and Eve were like “be glad when he is finished resting so we can spend some together?” lol😂.
Tithes not mentioned in new covenant church. SDA have been practicing prosperity messages for years . They read Malachi 3 you be cursed if you don't pay tithe an old covenant practice. These pastors just read Corinthians church took up collections on Sunday. When the Adventists started off they did not tithe and we're still like the old apostolic Christians taking offerings.
Am a seventh day Adventist but I have never offered a tith to the church because I don't see the practice of tith in the new testament. But I always help people in need of help which I think is better,
Tithing is directly mentioned in the new testament in Matthew 23:23 and Hebrews 7. Both of those references speak positively about tithing, and Hebrews 7 makes it quite relevant as we are now living under the priesthood of Melchisedec to which Abraham paid tithe. Perhaps the reason why tithing was not mentioned elsewhere in the NT is because early Christians were faithfully giving as much financially as they could to support the rapidly growing church. Just think what would happen if Christians nowadays would be just as eager to give to the cause of God instead of arguing about how little they need to give. Render unto God what belongs to Him (Mark 12:17)
@@jacogericke8480 they gave everything they had, it says they sold all there possessions and brought it to church. We don’t do that that’s why giving tithe to support the church is needed.
Pastors this is such a great service please make it longer I myself enjoy it so much an hour would not be too long amen
Thank you both for this wonderful session. It was a blessing.
Amen thank you for the light,God bless
Very good program. Thank you
Thank you Pastor this is so helpful God Bless you both 🙏🏻
Remember: The Lord has given you this day of rest as a holy day. That’s why he gives you enough food on the sixth day for two days. *On the seventh day stay in your place-no one is to go out. Everyone, stay where you are.”*
Exodus 16:29 GW
*Do not bring anything out of your homes on the day of rest.* Do not do any work, but observe the day of rest as a holy day, as I told your ancestors.
Jeremiah 17:22 GW
I'm not supporting that we should be making online transactions on the Sabbath, but I think these verses don't really help the argument, because modern online methods are allowing people to make such payments in the comfort of their homes, without “going out”, “bringing anything out of their homes”, or even interacting with another person in doing that. So I think the real emphasis should be on not doing any commercial activity, i.e., buying or selling
The emphasis should be on what the scriptures say, not on the ways of the world that we have been forced to conform to, making the word of God of no effect in our lives (Romans 12:2, Mark 7:13). A day of rest from all your labours; feeding your chickens, cooking, teaching, playing games, etc. (Isaiah 58:13), for example; anything which you have to rest after doing it, then you are not resting (Exodus 16:4).
You have 6 days to do all the transactions that you have to do, restructure your life to have a clear and appointment free daytime on Saturday, to Sit at Home or stay where you are, to rest and refresh your spirit, soul and body (Exodus 31:17) [or the doctor will soon be prescribing bed rest for you]. There is a reason God gave us this commandment, and keeping to His instructions and ways, is what makes your ways prosperous, and have a good success.
The scriptures are there to shine a light on where you are going.
... *If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee,* ... for I am the Lord that healeth thee.
Exodus 15:26 KJV
What about selling religious books on the Sabbath and advertising them from the pulpit on the Sabbath?
And what about training programmes run on Sabbaths usually for church officers?
And what about fees charged and paid on Sabbaths where a term like 'day visitors' is used to raise money from those who may not have booked to camp over a weekend for example? Is this not breaking the Sabbath? God bless.
no, we all need the copy you have promised
Just want to ask. May I know some New Teatament passages supporting Sabbath Keeping?
Luke 4 ;16
Hi. St Luke 4:16 & 31(Jesus was a Sabbath keeper)
Acts 17:1-3 (the apostle Paul was
Acts 18
@@janiceclarke8289 Well He was a Passover keeper too. So did Paul.
Hebrews 4:4, 9-11. Luke 4:16; 23: 54,56. Mark 2:27 ,28 & Revelation 1:10 Jesus also kept the Sabbath in death in the tomb. God bless!😊
What about automated transactions that take place on the sabbath for the use of paying a bill? Is this wrong. As they do not require any labor or take away our focus from the sabbath. Or with regards to the topping up of credit?
Amen
08:57
What if one gets paid on Sabbath for work or services performed prior to Sabbath? Should one return the tithe on another day following Sabbath?
That money is to be used for feeding/ giving it to the poor. For example I worked as a caregiver for years when Im schedule on that day, I pray as to whom singularly or split into two and silently in an envelope give them. 😊 And it's always on time for the person because they just prayed for their need. It comes like I worked free on Sabbath. Usually it's person in church the poor will always be with us. I hope I've answered your question ⁉️😊❤
No tithing on this.
@@mayseventy4466 Okay! 👍
Physicians need to cultivate a spirit of self-denial and self-sacrifice. It may be necessary to devote even the hours of the holy Sabbath to the relief of suffering humanity. But the fee for such labor should be put into the treasury of the Lord, to be used for the worthy poor, who need medical skill but cannot afford to pay for it.--Health, Philanthropic, and Medical Missionary Work, page 42. {MM 216.2}
Why do these SDA channels do surveys and hock books on Sabbath?
Where does it say Abraham paid tithes to the king of Salem ( on the Sabbath)
They say kids can't sit still is that why some people can't stay home and pray to the Lord and study his word on the Sabbath? Then fellowship on the sunday?
So if Judas was paid to preach would things be different?
Thank you Pastor Bhore I would Like to ask as Sabbath Keeper can we Cocking on Sabbath day? What is Bible say and written of Ellen G W. Say? Thanks.
KJV Exodus 35:3
3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
: "As Mrs. E. G. White's daughter-in-law, I was a member of her household for a little more than a year, and was often in her home and travelled with her over a period of twenty years. I have been asked concerning the Sabbath meals in the White home. "As full preparation as was possible was made on Friday, the preparation day, for the Sabbath meals. On Sabbath the food for both breakfast and dinner was served hot, it having been heated immediately preceding the meal. All unnecessary work was avoided on the Sabbath but at no time did Mrs. White consider it a violation of proper Sabbath observance to provide for the ordinary comforts of life such as the building of a fire for the heating of the house or the heating of the food for the meals."-(Signed) Mrs. W. C. White. 3SM 263.1
Soon after the return into the wilderness, an instance of Sabbath violation occurred, under circumstances that rendered it a case of peculiar guilt. The Lord's announcement that He would disinherit Israel had roused a spirit of rebellion. One of the people, angry at being excluded from Canaan, and determined to show his defiance of God's law, ventured upon the open transgression of the fourth commandment by going out to gather sticks upon the Sabbath. During the sojourn in the wilderness the kindling of fires upon the seventh day had been strictly prohibited. The prohibition was not to extend to the land of Canaan, where the severity of the climate would often render fires a necessity; but in the wilderness, fire was not needed for warmth. The act of this man was a willful and deliberate violation of the fourth commandment-a sin, not of thoughtlessness or ignorance, but of presumption. PP 408.4
We should not cook on the Sabbath
KJV Exodus 35:3
3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
We should not Cook on the Sabbath day
Worship do not come before me empty handed! Is it not part of worship??
What was he talking about when he included the years 31 & 34 ??? Also I wish he would have explained why he said Judas committed suicide because he was expecting to gain wealth or whatever. 🤔 🤔
What does the Bible say about a divorcee marrying another divorcee ?
Should you work on Sabbath?
On Sabbath Day what God commanded not to do is Secular Works not Essential Works.
Our minds are not even supposed to be there, doing business, electronically otherwise
Why can't you pay tithes and offerings during the week and if you call the Sabbath a day of worship then are you not worshipping money as well?? Jesus said render the owner of the inscription and then render what is God's to God ( you can't worship God and mammon you must love one and hate the other). Besides the study done that showed that money has more germs than a toilet seat
You don't pay tithes, you return your tithes and offerings
@@tubbstv2575 I pay tithes to where I hear the truth
@@tubbstv2575 but I guess some churches can't trust there members to pay them in private or on any other day
@@tubbstv2575 what is the ninth commandment and if I believed your prophetess the end of grace happened before she died
@@tubbstv2575 Walter t rea the white lie
The Sabbath begins Friday evening. Like the bible says,the evening and the morning. They were created on the sixth day so their first day was Sabbath which they rested and kept. Genesis 2:1
Just to add some observations of creation completed and before God rested . Created Adam and Eve on 6th so there very first day was 7th and just visualise them opening their eyes in Garden and having to explore beauty animals and birds and and ...How could they open their eyes on Sabbath but only rest on the first day opening their eyes. Wow. Something not adding up here. Not commanded to keep Sabbath. First time Sabbath introduced was to the Israelites came from slavery .
@Kenneth Rass "Remember the Sabbath day *to keep it holy* Why? "For *in six days the Lord made heaven and earth* , and rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord...hallowed it" (Exodus 20:8-11). "There *remains* a rest to the people of God. For he that enters into His rest he *also* ceases from his work as God ceased from His. Let us therefore labor to enter into that rest" (Hebrews 4:9-11). That's why after Paul spoke "the *Gentiles* begged that the same words be spoken to them the next Sabbath", as they advanced in "the *grace* of God" (Acts 13:42,43). The following "Sabbath day almost the whole city came to hear the word of God" (verse 44).
@Kenneth Rass l did, brother. And that's all l have to say. If you don't agree, then l'll accept that.
They were created on the sixth day, so their first day was Sabbath Preparation (what most people call Friday)... their first FULL day may have been the Sabbath, but their first DAY was Sabbath Preparation (commonly known as Friday)...
God would have spent the day (6th day) with Adam and Eve instructing them on the ways of this and that... after spending the 6th day with Adam and Eve, God then made the Sabbath for man, Mark 2:27...
So, the 6th day was Adam and Eve's first day, and they spent the first Sabbath with God...
Hi aunt Loween...
The Earth was created before the fall.
The fall was before the earth was created... Lucifer became jealous that the Father and Son discussed the creation without him... Lucifer felt that, because he was a covering cherub, that he should have been included in the plans for creation...
The Corinthians text read clearly indicate collections not tithes Sunday worship not Saturday.
How can an angel "Lucifer" feel to have the right to be worshiped like Jesus( being God) and get angry because he feel jealous? It does not make sense to me!!!
Dear soul, "Can you by searching find out God?" or anything infinite, eternal, or something that was ions in operation? "It is as high as heaven, what can you do; deeper than all the hosts of hell, how could you know? (Job 11:7,8). The measure of Lucifer's mind "is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea" (verse 9). That's why even people as brilliantly perfect as Adam & Eve were no match for Satan--"that old serpent the devil who deceives the *whole* world" (Revelation 12:9).
This is why sin cannot be explained away; if there's an explanation/excuse for it, it ceases to be sin.
Y
Early writings reading really surprising quite from EGW pastor read.
Strange how Jesus already placed next to Lucifer is a huge false reason why the church equates Jesus and Lucifer next to each other. Sorry what? Jesus were not titled son but was God the word.
Now you can see the problemi find referring to Jesus as an angel like Lucifer .
Don't accept Ellen did not see these things and the word became flesh and begotten born through the virgin start of using SON. Was no angel before Christ came to earth.
Some false quotes read from EGW ....totally false .She did not see those things must have been copied from some one else books.
Falsehood in this
Satan was never a good angel. Jesus says he is evil from the beginning. God created him at arms length a croocked serpent, a piercing serpent (Isaiah 27:1, Job 26:13,Gen 3:1-2 )
The Lucifer theory is a Christian hoax designed to deceive many.
How do you explain Adam and Eve keeping the first Sabbath when you say God did not sanctify and bless the Sabbath till it was over as you said? And that from a God Who knows the end from before hand. According to what you teach, God did not establish the Sabbath till it was over. I believe it was different than that. What time of the day, on the first Sabbath, do you say God established and blessed Sabbath? Because,as you teach, Adam and Eve could not keep the first Sabbath because it, according to your teaching, was not establish till it was over. Or the First Sabbath was unconsciously kept unaware of the fact, which is automatically somehow.? The only way that could happen is that Adam and Eve spent the first Sabbath in the very presence of God.
Hi there, this is actually a great question. I will try. consider the fact that God never did any work at all on this day. He finished all work on the six then He watched all things come together on the sabbath. From the first to the sixth day of creation was brought together on His day of rest. After His surveillance of His creation, He hallowed the seventh day. Mind you this was His practice as well in heaven. Therefore, He made the sabbath day on earth as well then pass it on to our earthly parents. Genesis 1:31, says and God saw that every thing that He made , and behold, it was very good. Genesis 2:1 thus the heaven and earth were finished and all the host of them. And He rested on the seventh day. Verse 3 said and God blessed the sabbath day and sanctified it because in it He had rested from all His work which He created and made.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion that you might have had. God bless you
Firs sabbat is God's exemple 2 week is Adam's Sabbath following His exemple
Tiger, you answered your own question in the very last line.
Adam and Eve spent that first Sabbath in the very presence of God. It was what He designed the Sabbath for. For man to spend the entire day with Him and reflect over all the things God has created and done.
God rested on the 1st Sabbath with Adam and Eve. That just makes sense. Do you think while God rested Adam and Eve were like “be glad when he is finished resting so we can spend some together?” lol😂.
Question? What verse or verses in Genesis states that Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath? And what verse states when man was commanded to kept the Sabbath?
Tithes not mentioned in new covenant church.
SDA have been practicing prosperity messages for years .
They read Malachi 3 you be cursed if you don't pay tithe an old covenant practice.
These pastors just read Corinthians church took up collections on Sunday.
When the Adventists started off they did not tithe and we're still like the old apostolic Christians taking offerings.
which adventist said you will be cursed . GOD said try me and i will open the windows of heaven. if you want to be bless you should do it.
Am a seventh day Adventist but I have never offered a tith to the church because I don't see the practice of tith in the new testament. But I always help people in need of help which I think is better,
Very informative programme. I learnt a lot from the answers to the questions.
Tithing is directly mentioned in the new testament in Matthew 23:23 and Hebrews 7. Both of those references speak positively about tithing, and Hebrews 7 makes it quite relevant as we are now living under the priesthood of Melchisedec to which Abraham paid tithe. Perhaps the reason why tithing was not mentioned elsewhere in the NT is because early Christians were faithfully giving as much financially as they could to support the rapidly growing church. Just think what would happen if Christians nowadays would be just as eager to give to the cause of God instead of arguing about how little they need to give. Render unto God what belongs to Him (Mark 12:17)
@@jacogericke8480 they gave everything they had, it says they sold all there possessions and brought it to church. We don’t do that that’s why giving tithe to support the church is needed.
Walter t rea the white lie
SDA churches does not allow you to be part of the church if you do not pay tithes. Very unbiblical
That's not true
Absolutely not true.
Many blessings to you
Amen