1987 Motaquip British Rallycross Grand Prix

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  • Action from this traditional season-closing event held at Brands Hatch, with coverage of the C, B and A Finals. Originally broadcast on BBC Grandstand, with commentary by Murray Walker. Converted from VHS TV recording.
    If you want to skip to the B Final and A Final, you can do so using the shortcuts below:
    00:06:46 - B Final
    00:13:28 - A Final For VHS Rallies' exclusive range of classic rallying t-shirts, hoodies and mugs, visit vhsrallies.teem...

Комментарии • 146

  • @rustyfuzz470
    @rustyfuzz470 4 года назад +92

    A VW Beetle lined up for a drag race with a Lancia Delta S4, exactly what I need in my life.

    • @martinbyrne6643
      @martinbyrne6643 3 года назад +3

      Don’t be so silly ‘ this is rallycross ‘ not drag racing

    • @anthroparion
      @anthroparion Год назад

      Rally's version of a time travelling delorean. And it is nice to have Murray commentating

  • @SuperOrbit69
    @SuperOrbit69 4 года назад +55

    Gotta love Murray Walker. How he knows the tiniest details of the most obscure of drivers. Great vid, thanks for sharing, not seen this in a LONG time!

    • @robertlund5694
      @robertlund5694 4 года назад +5

      Lol, including their travel and finance situations that he'll keep no secret.

    • @gerekappo
      @gerekappo 4 года назад +2

      One of the most amazing of the world i think. i can remember one comentarist of Argentina that is really, really good, but this one is amazing!
      Galvão Bueno, from Brasil, is know from narrating all F1 races, being friend with Ayrton Senna, but the dude talks shit all the race, no detail, no info about the drivers, just plain stupid...

  • @mikefpe
    @mikefpe 4 года назад +48

    This racing during this period of time has to be the most entertaining type of motorsport ever. I hope you are going to upload more 80’s rallycross as I could watch It all day long 👌🏻

    • @anton2417
      @anton2417 4 года назад +1

      Yeah the group b era was absolutly bonkers. The division A cars had 700 hp, just crazy.

  • @murrayarnold
    @murrayarnold 4 года назад +31

    6 to 700hp, loud, unrefined. Magnificent. The racing then with all the Group Bs. Ahhhhhh. It's simply car pornography. What's the value today of that starting grid. Millions.

    • @ulukai_555
      @ulukai_555 4 года назад +3

      700 HP on the rear weels for some cars. Just can't imagine how it must handle. :D

    • @220Hoi
      @220Hoi 4 года назад

      @@ulukai_555 plus with turbo technology from the 80s

  • @JohnMcMahon.
    @JohnMcMahon. 4 года назад +23

    This is why I love RUclips. So much nostalgia watching these, the cars, the drivers and of course the man himself, Murray Walker.
    Brings me back 30 years. Fantastic!

  • @gerardoz238
    @gerardoz238 4 года назад +21

    Probably the best era of rallycross brute force and brutal handling

    • @exsappermadman25055
      @exsappermadman25055 4 года назад +1

      "I'll have the one with the supercharger and the turbo please"........

    • @joaopedrosambatti2474
      @joaopedrosambatti2474 4 года назад +1

      Don't get me wrong, but the lack of a joker lap kinda makes overtaking a bit difficult, but still, some of the best cars

    • @barriemorris2829
      @barriemorris2829 4 года назад +3

      joao ninao joker laps ruined the art of overtaking

  • @MrJacksonBollock
    @MrJacksonBollock 4 года назад +26

    Really do love you a bit VHS Rallies.
    What a treat on a bank holiday sunday morning!

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +3

      Ah, thanks for the positive feedback.

    • @SchafjuanS
      @SchafjuanS 4 года назад

      Done subscribe and like :)

    • @neilfitzgerald1410
      @neilfitzgerald1410 4 года назад

      @@VHSRallies MR NEIL FITZGERALD IS THERE ANY MORE BBC1 RALLYCROSS FROM BBC1 GRANDSTAND ANY MORE OF BBC1 AUSTIN ROVER SPEEDSTAR FROM BBC1 GRANDSTAND THANK YOU VERY MUCH PLEASE CAN YOU KEEP UP THE VERY GOOD WORK VERY GOOD MAN THANKS AGAIN FROM MR NEIL FITZGERALD

  • @laughinclown88
    @laughinclown88 2 года назад +2

    Murray Walker +rallycross… doesn’t get much better than that

  • @iceman325i
    @iceman325i 4 года назад +9

    Never commented and know the effort to go from tape to digital. Thank you much appreciated. Lost gems we all remember. Cheers

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +5

      Thanks for taking the time to comment, and for the positive feedback.

  • @Hugo51079
    @Hugo51079 4 года назад +36

    What the holy Christmas have they done to that beetle, to make it nearly keep up with an S4 Lancia?!

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +15

      I'd love to know. Never really knew much about the 4WD Beetles and what powertrains they used. Very much homebrew specials.

    • @robertlund5694
      @robertlund5694 4 года назад +6

      That's what I thought, must just be a body on another platform.

    • @MrMcKane
      @MrMcKane 4 года назад +9

      I can only imagine it was a beetle chassis with engine and 4WD the 911's had in Rallycross.
      But having said that, Alamäki must have had problems during qualifications, because if his Lancia was at full speed, he wouldn't be languishing down in the C-Final.

    • @exsappermadman25055
      @exsappermadman25055 4 года назад

      My thoughts exactly!.....

    • @PuncakeLena
      @PuncakeLena 4 года назад +1

      @@MrMcKane The commentator mentioned a blown turbo

  • @lakloplak
    @lakloplak 4 года назад +13

    I can't believe how close this is. All the efforts these days to have competitive racing and here I see a Beetle, RS200, Metro all fighting eachother.

    • @mikaelbihl-matias9462
      @mikaelbihl-matias9462 3 года назад

      Because manufacturers/race car builders weren't lazy back then and were working/thinking their ass off to have the unfair advantage. They didn't needed to rely on some wacky regulations/BOP to compete.

  • @tombonk2932
    @tombonk2932 4 года назад +22

    These videos are keeping me going through the lockdown. Excellent stuff, keep it up!

  • @ashleywebster2659
    @ashleywebster2659 Год назад

    Thanks for posting - this was always the reason to watch Saturday afternoon sport; brought back some great memories! :-)

  • @SaltyMcBoatFace
    @SaltyMcBoatFace 4 года назад +16

    noobs : f1 is the best motorsport with the most talented drivers
    me : *Laughs in Rallycross*

  • @flammenjc
    @flammenjc 4 года назад +2

    Thanks so much for the videos. These are the moments my old man talked out. I wasn't lucky enough to have been alive during this golden age of motorsport.
    Mythic legends of machine that are essentially so powerful and sketchy they are all out of control for a whole entire lap..
    Rallycross of today is like banger racing in comparison. Cars much easier to drive and they make no effort to avoid contact

  • @sarahtaggart7397
    @sarahtaggart7397 4 года назад +6

    200 thousand pounds for the T16 in 1987 makes today's prices seem cheap 😳. Great videos from a truly great era of Motorsport ! 👍

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +5

      £200k is only half the battle. You need to be able to drive it as well. Contrast the subsequent fortunes of Terje Schie, the buyer of that 205, with those of Matti Alamaki, who swapped from his Delta into a Peugeot for 1988 and swept all before him.

  • @danthompson1955
    @danthompson1955 4 года назад +4

    Excellent,When men where men and cars where Monsters and Murray Walker is commentating What more do you want on lockdown,Big thanks for the upload.

  • @ABo-gg8yq
    @ABo-gg8yq 3 года назад +1

    Ah , those were the days... I must have been about five years old when me and my dad first went to rally cross. We still go, 40 years later, only just once a year now. We miss the 6R4’s , RS200’s and the quattro’s ! Last year, we also took my 6 year old son with us. Three generations loving rally cross and eachother 😊

  • @gurtsmunta1
    @gurtsmunta1 3 года назад +1

    Old group B warriors having their last battles ,god it must have been brilliant to watch live .

  • @nmo888
    @nmo888 4 года назад +1

    This was just what I needed.
    Forgot how handy JP was behind the wheel 👍

  • @1980VINZ
    @1980VINZ 3 года назад

    PRICELESS
    Thank you so much 🙏
    Big salut from France 🇫🇷
    VINZ🙋‍♂️

  • @debbierigby6304
    @debbierigby6304 Год назад

    Thank you..❤

  • @Mind-your-own-beeswax
    @Mind-your-own-beeswax 4 года назад

    Remember watching this back on Screensport 30+years ago. Happy days

  • @glensgraphix
    @glensgraphix 4 года назад

    This came up as a "recommended viewing" and it is definitely something I'd recommend viewing! Thanks for uploading and sharing.

  • @Robaperas6
    @Robaperas6 4 года назад +2

    Fantastic races, greetings from Chile!

  • @UnexplainedHoveringSpheroid
    @UnexplainedHoveringSpheroid 4 года назад

    I remember watching rallycross with my dad when I was a kid in the late 80s. Thank you for uploading this, it brings back many good memories 😁👍

  • @vladimirpolitov168
    @vladimirpolitov168 4 года назад +1

    Great British Rallycross, thanks!

  • @pemboart
    @pemboart 4 года назад

    LOVED THIS! Please more! What a great channel!

  • @sturgenius
    @sturgenius 4 года назад

    Thank you for sharing this! I love this era and Rally Cross ta boot!

  • @pauln1557
    @pauln1557 4 года назад +1

    Fabulous! Many thanks for uploading.

  • @bempartington4299
    @bempartington4299 4 года назад

    This footage is amazing!!!!!!

  • @H7KAL
    @H7KAL 4 года назад

    Absolutey fabulous the flames from those machines pure power

  • @kurtvonnegut1
    @kurtvonnegut1 4 года назад

    Fantastic!

  • @fatstratuk
    @fatstratuk 4 года назад +1

    What a selection of cars!

  • @JohnMcMahon.
    @JohnMcMahon. 4 года назад +7

    @13:53 200K for that 205 in 1987, that’s 480K in today’s money. Almost half a million pounds for a second hand rally car.
    Just shows how valued those Group B monsters were. Awesome era in rallying.

    • @christianponicki9581
      @christianponicki9581 4 года назад

      That's actually a pretty good deal. IIRC, a wimpy, modern GT3-style car can run $500k-750k, and junior-level prototypes like LMP2/3 have a similar price. For a top-tier rally car of the day, $480k is a damn good price.

    • @thatwillcarter
      @thatwillcarter 4 года назад +1

      @@christianponicki9581 That's £480k, so more like $600k.

    • @christianponicki9581
      @christianponicki9581 4 года назад

      @@thatwillcarter Fair point, but it's still in the same range as modern cars, for the most part.

    • @Jimskateuk
      @Jimskateuk 4 года назад

      Guess its the only way you can have a car like that in a class that considers production models.
      dont think you were paying so much for the technology in the car but the fact the cars even allowed in the race.

  • @Bakezor36
    @Bakezor36 4 года назад +1

    So good. Thank you for uploading.

  • @driveman4588
    @driveman4588 4 года назад +1

    Just Awsome thank you

  • @Ankan..
    @Ankan.. 4 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this, It's gold👍

  • @peter8084
    @peter8084 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video, better than boring F1 that's for sure !

  • @Andy-zy6yk
    @Andy-zy6yk 4 года назад

    Really enjoyed this, thanks for uploading!

  • @DEZ1172
    @DEZ1172 4 года назад +1

    thankyou great bit of easter viewing 🙃

  • @MrMcdob
    @MrMcdob 4 года назад

    Awesome.. Thanks for posting, back when I was 16 and cars were cool..

  • @joe5boost
    @joe5boost 4 года назад +1

    great vids thanks for sharing

  • @mikaelbihl-matias9462
    @mikaelbihl-matias9462 4 года назад +3

    The Delta s4 is BOSS

  • @Furor_Teutonicus
    @Furor_Teutonicus 4 года назад +2

    Great Rallycross action. Thanks for sharing! Any chance to see some Paris-Dakar videos from the 80´s?

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад

      Thanks for the positive feedback - but I've got bad news for you on the Dakar front. Rally raids don't do it for me at all, I'm afraid, and I have more than enough rally stuff to be getting on with anyway. So no plans for any Paris-Dakar, I'm afraid.

    • @carcontrolcommitment
      @carcontrolcommitment 4 года назад

      @@VHSRallies fairly certain there's a Vatanen post accident , 'Sport on Friday' interview completed just after his 87 Dakar victory on one of my tapes. That might be a good one to put up, however I do concur, raid's are a bit boring.

  • @PescaraProductions
    @PescaraProductions 4 года назад +3

    Biggest mistake Palmers MSVR tracks ever did was rip up the rallycross tracks at Brands, Cadwell and Oulton Park. Ironic as he's leading the B final in this video

  • @martinjones7631
    @martinjones7631 3 года назад +1

    Can you imagine watching that lancia there live unreal

  • @JukkaX
    @JukkaX Год назад

    Long live VHS.

  • @georgejacob3162
    @georgejacob3162 4 года назад +1

    Tremendous stuff!

  • @barriemorris2829
    @barriemorris2829 4 года назад

    I was lucky enough to go to the Rallycross GP’s. TV didn’t do it justice.

  • @daveyboy174
    @daveyboy174 Год назад

    Well that brings big smiles to ones face :)

  • @druscanam
    @druscanam 4 года назад +1

    Sooo good!

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the positive feedback.

  • @TheLRider
    @TheLRider 3 года назад

    Marvelous.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  3 года назад

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @thomasmaurer1097
    @thomasmaurer1097 4 года назад +1

    love it ... keep more coming
    #subscribed

  • @AldershotDave
    @AldershotDave 4 года назад

    Odd that it took so long to mention that Jonathan Palmer was driving John Welch's Xtrac Escort, especially as Welch was in the same race in his Opel!

  • @derJackistweg
    @derJackistweg 4 года назад

    Excellent!!! Thanks for sharing.
    Our internet youngsters can see that their Marketing Heros of today actually performed slidely differently (from a German Perspective, we have a lot of Audi fanboys who think the S2 was the over all winner)

  • @VonBlade
    @VonBlade 3 года назад

    I love Murray giving Palmer the 87 World Title "in class", when he was the only guy in the class.

  • @rayanehaddad8406
    @rayanehaddad8406 3 года назад

    It's a race about screaming engines, lot of horsepower and serious competition

  • @lucentindex4048
    @lucentindex4048 4 года назад +1

    Smell the nostalgia people breath it in

    • @danross8565
      @danross8565 4 года назад +2

      Lucent Index smell the Castrol oil burning

  • @Beneluxsupercars
    @Beneluxsupercars 4 года назад

    The good old days, no computer crap of these days

  • @jblack5323
    @jblack5323 Год назад

    What channel would you watch this on back in the 80’s? I’m assuming it was on BBC’s grandstand around midday on Saturday?

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  Год назад +1

      Precisely. I think Football Focus was first, then Grandstand kicked in for the whole afternoon until Final Score at 4.45pm.

    • @jblack5323
      @jblack5323 Год назад

      @@VHSRallies so am I right in thinking that adults spent more time at home in the day back then? Just chilling infront of the TV watching sport drinking tea all afternoon etc, then maybe to the pub on the evening?

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers 4 года назад

    S4 and RS200 What a time to race

  • @150limited
    @150limited 4 года назад +1

    That RS200 had a slow start because of that MG in front of it. If that MG was out of it's way, the Ford would've had a close finish with the Lancia. RS200 best rally car in this race.

  • @tyler9703
    @tyler9703 4 года назад

    A Beetle and an RS200 in the same race. Wow.

  • @GIZZMOTORSPORTS
    @GIZZMOTORSPORTS 4 года назад

    The 911 in the second heat was a rocket off the line. I wonder how these cars would compare to modern machines.

  • @mark4lev
    @mark4lev Год назад

    How would schanches xtrac escort fare against the rs200’s? Lap time etc

  • @animalcol1
    @animalcol1 4 года назад +3

    Great vid. I really think that Arnesson should have been penalised for his driving. Not just this race, but many I've seen him in, he displayed the same behaviour. Martin S and himself used to have some serious falling outs over the years 😂

    • @robertlund5694
      @robertlund5694 4 года назад

      Martin S hated everyone I think.

    • @animalcol1
      @animalcol1 3 года назад

      @@robertlund5694 he liked and respected Gallop. Thought he was very fair. Called him a gentleman driver a few times.
      He was a firey bugger thought. I can remember him after being punted off the track waiting on the guy who did so to come around again. He stood ON the track trying to stop the race. Mental!

  • @bear1245
    @bear1245 4 года назад

    Should have more subs

  • @1981bundy
    @1981bundy 4 года назад +1

    🤗🤗🤗🤗
    flat out love these old clips!
    Thank you!

  • @perillusbioculatus6305
    @perillusbioculatus6305 4 года назад

    Where was it? What was the cirquit? Some curves looks like it is Brands Hatch.

  • @ingvarkarlsson7378
    @ingvarkarlsson7378 3 года назад

    Murray Walker, what a legend R.I.P "there is no smoking allowed in an Escort"

  • @inkysteve
    @inkysteve 4 года назад

    Murray tells us that the Lancia is the only Group B in Rallycross then tells us that the Ford RS200 is also a Group B. Good old Murray.

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  4 года назад

      He was certainly prone to the odd bit of confusion, but in this case I think he was trying to say that Alamaki's was the only Delta S4 in rallycross. Which I think would have been true for 1987 - although more appeared in 1988, particularly in France.

  • @bobanppvc
    @bobanppvc 4 года назад +2

    how world have changed in last 30 years unbelivable.I remember mid 90s when escorts,golf mk2s and renault 5s were around and modern.People were different too

    • @Ruylopez778
      @Ruylopez778 4 года назад

      Now the cars are double the size, and the people are too

  • @blameusa7082
    @blameusa7082 4 года назад +1

    Cant hate on Fords really, They do go really fast.. its just they only go really fast for 4 laps!

    • @Leonidae
      @Leonidae 4 года назад +1

      Chevy wouldn't make it through 2.

  • @pripph1355
    @pripph1355 4 года назад

    Wish I could turn back time! Those were the days! Why is everything so boring nowadays?

  • @martinjones7631
    @martinjones7631 3 года назад

    Well missed good old murry mint

  • @flakey7832
    @flakey7832 4 года назад

    first 10 seconds of the video and there's a beetle lined up in the first row next to a delta s4
    ok

  • @dkvperformance
    @dkvperformance Год назад

    👍

  • @Jabber-ig3iw
    @Jabber-ig3iw 4 года назад

    Cosworth engine I think you will find Murray.

  • @Boogity100
    @Boogity100 4 года назад

    didnt know brands hatch had rallycross

  • @nikolac290v7
    @nikolac290v7 4 года назад

    Woow....

  • @hayabusa27
    @hayabusa27 4 года назад

    More amazing these cars had manual transmissions!

  • @stevenross-watt8640
    @stevenross-watt8640 4 года назад

    To not red flag the final race when Palmers escort was right on the final straight. You see the drivers going either side of the escort as they finish the race. :). Diffetent times.

    • @noahswann
      @noahswann 4 года назад +1

      nowt a couple of waved yellows can't sort!

  • @MrKips1
    @MrKips1 3 года назад +1

    You don't get racing like this anymore. You just don't...

  • @MZ-Motorsport
    @MZ-Motorsport Год назад

    It seems that even in the past, rallycross cars had a much higher power output than road-going rally cars. Anyone care to explain why rallycross cars pack way more punch than their road-going counterparts?

    • @VHSRallies
      @VHSRallies  Год назад +1

      Different regulations, with different (lesser) restrictions on engines/turbos etc. Plus of course, rallycross engines were stressed for much shorter periods of time (average 5min race or thereabouts) so could be pushed to more extreme tolerances, I'd say.

    • @MZ-Motorsport
      @MZ-Motorsport Год назад

      @@VHSRallies
      So basically,
      road rally car engines: more stress, less power
      rallycross car engines: less stress, more power

  • @shadowslip7125
    @shadowslip7125 9 месяцев назад

    The year true rallying died with no group b. Still good to see them in rally cross though but not the same!

  • @jimmyjoe8990
    @jimmyjoe8990 Год назад

    best

  • @bobbythompson3544
    @bobbythompson3544 4 года назад

    The metro had a puncture from early!

  • @thejudge-kv2jk
    @thejudge-kv2jk 4 года назад +7

    Jesus how dirty was that Swede in the last race!

    • @animalcol1
      @animalcol1 4 года назад +1

      Every bloody race he was the same.

  • @exsappermadman25055
    @exsappermadman25055 4 года назад

    What in the blue fuck does that Beetle have under its bootlid?!......Its monstering Porkers and 6R4's ffs!.....

  • @damonz83
    @damonz83 4 года назад

    Alamaki and Skanki

  • @gianfrancocorbula8621
    @gianfrancocorbula8621 4 года назад +1

    In partenza, Alamaki li ha bruciati con una facilità impressionante. Poi , non ce n'è più stato per nessuno.

  • @blameusa7082
    @blameusa7082 4 года назад

    $200k for a 205 Bwahaha, scrap man said he was doing me a favor for taking it for free

    • @Leonidae
      @Leonidae 4 года назад

      That 205 wasn't 1/200 homologation specials.

    • @doabarrellroll69
      @doabarrellroll69 4 года назад +1

      You say that, that 205 was a Turbo 16, which was mid engined, had AWD and was a homologation special, only 200 where made. Before Group B folded, the 205 and the Delta S4 where _the_ cars to beat

    • @starletbruh114
      @starletbruh114 4 года назад

      It had 205 headlights and that's about it

    • @Leonidae
      @Leonidae 4 года назад

      @@starletbruh114 by that logic Lotus Esprit is actually Toyota Corolla because of shared taillights..

  • @plantfeeder6677
    @plantfeeder6677 Год назад

    Yaaay another Ford win.

  • @mrivantchernegovski3869
    @mrivantchernegovski3869 2 года назад +1

    Days of cheap ex Grp B cars lol they are worth a pretty penney these days

  • @dasgoofinhiemer5039
    @dasgoofinhiemer5039 4 года назад

    turbo'd super beatle ahead of group b cars? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @nutsackmania
    @nutsackmania 4 года назад

    awesome