Crispin Glover: "Zemeckis Got Really Mad at Me" | Opie & Anthony
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- Actor Crispin Glover sits down with the "Opie & Anthony Show" and talks about issues he had with "Back To The Future".
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I had never seen him this eloquent, coordinated and well spoken.
@Marty's 4x4 How many times did that come up?
I agree He seems like he's crazier than a crap house rat.
He seemed quite alert and present different than other interviews I've seen where he seems rather angry and distracted.
Still. He is the actor. It is not his place to tell the people making the movie how the movie should go.
@@MinusEightyIt is absolutely his place to voice his opinion on how the character would act in a given situation.
An actor can elevate a performance and a movie by doing so.
I have no doubt he would have been difficult to work with, from what I've seen, but the way he was treated wasn't fair, he was painted in a very bad light and stealing his likeness wasn't morally right. Laws and precedence on the practice being changed is a reflection on that.
@@MinusEightyStill. You are a viewer. It is not your place to tell an actor in a movie how he should be treated.
"If you question propaganda it has serious consequences." Wise words. Sad story to hear, but he still is such an iconic part of such an incredible film!! Love Crispin Glover!! Bravo!!
Best,
~Curtis & FiZzO~
no
For me, George McFly's reward was that he followed his dream and became a writer.
The wealth was just as a result of him being good, but I always thought that following his dream was the most important message.
exactly
You have to remember that the bulk of his frustration came from the original draft of that scene, which featured the McFlys having a servant in their home serving them breakfast and talking about the mansion they were about to buy.
@@jpollackauthor They kinda have a servant. Biff.
Though them buying a mansion would go over the top and potentially ruining the film. But isn't this just a rumor with the mansion, or is there evidence somewhere?
I agree with that. He gained confidence from standing up to a bully. Then he followed his dreams and found success.
But I can see Crispin Glover's point somewhat as well.
On the other hand the original script may have greatly benefited from his criticism. Maybe the movie we saw is actually much better because of Glover's complaints -- for which he was ostracized instead of rewarded.
@@nightmareTomek I did not perceive Biff's involvement with the family as being a servant. I thought George was doing him a favor by providing him with menial employment doing odd-jobs around the house, and over time, Biff became a devoted member of the household.
his laughing at the honeymooners was the BEST scene in the whole movie... sometimes i watch the movie just to see that... he should have been paid whatever he wanted in the second movie just to do that laugh!!!!
Say what you will about Crispin Glover, but he was a HUGE reason for BTTF's success. His omission from the sequels still hurt the quality of those films too.
Chris M yup, they just feel like something is missing, and that's Crispin Glover.
I agree with you. I think Crispin needs to lighten-up regarding the 'moral of the story' thing he is talking about. Regardless of that, Crispin was a large part of the success of Back to the Future.
Wrong, hes got a chip on his shoulder and should have just acted and not try to tell the producers how to write the film!
100% AGREE Very underrated actor
Tim so a sports player shouldn't suggest an idea to his coach he should just shut up and play??? Stupid logic the director and producer must of been pussies if ideas bothered them that much
I respect this guy a lot more now than I did when I clicked on the link. Thanks for the perspective, guys! What a class act.
Meh, he sounds bitter that he wasn't in the film because he wanted too much money.
@@bobbyheenan4061 Living up to your screenname, huh?
@@ignatiusjackson235 lol...weasel?
Ditto
He’s a crybaby liberal!
I've always found Crispin Glover to be a fascinating guy. He's a bit quirky, but he isn't stupid. Great interview!
He's totally a dumb ass... If you believe him he got fired for trying to rewrite Major Mothin picture as An nobody actor.
Not stupid, for sure. But, definitely an overthinker.
@C Mahoney you act like you his agent. You're so soft someone can't critique a third rate actor who's big mouth ruined his career? 😂😂
@C Mahoney if you're gonna be a grammar dick proofread your shit first 😂😂
These are some quality comments guys. Good job
Glover is so crazy that he is brilliant. In all seriousness, he is really a super talented actor and performer.
He seems like an angry person who's still bitter he missed out on the two sequels because he wanted too much money.
@@bobbyheenan4061 You seem like a nice person who plays with puppies and wears woolly sweaters. And stays regular without the need for metamucil.
He was awesome in BTTF.. WIsh he was able to come to the comicons. Sadly, I suspect if there is some sort of ban from higher up.
He was great in hot tub time machine
Almost as good as his father.
Ironically, the weaker sequel Back to the Future II, and which foolishly cut Crispin Glover from the cast, contained the message that money does not always bring happiness. Biff obviously had plenty of money and power in the sequel, but he wasn't happy at all. In fact, he was a miserable person, knowing that nobody really loved him.
Also it led to his death and there was originally a deleted scene where old Biff fades from existence after having returned to 2015.
I agree. That’s what I thought too. Crispin could of gotten involved without feeling he compromised
The moral of the story. The only irony and Hypocrisy on his part is that it really was all about the money. He demanded equal pay with MJ Fox
It's a nice way to show that material possessions without love does not bring happiness.
They didn't cut him out. Crispin refused to act in it
its ironic since the reason he was cut was because of how much money he wanted for part 2
I always saw George McFly's success stemming from finding his confidence by standing up to Biff in the parking lot car scene. He faced his demons. As a result his confidence soared and he chased his dreams. The material success that folllowed was a simple by-product of finding his confidence.
Same here- and they aren't THAT much better off, they are living in the same house.
Yeah I actually think Glover is way off base suggesting that the film is “propaganda” and also probably off base in my personal opinion that the point of the film is actually polluted by the leads actually having a better life both spiritually and financially.
I will say I’m with him on them using his likeness without rehiring him. Glad he sued.
Exactly. But there's was definitely a commercial aspect to it. I don't necessarily have an issue with it if it served the screenplay. Glover was great, but should've kept his mouth shut and taken his own path afterward.
Crispin is soooooo much more interesting than 99% of actors.
Just say the line
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No not really.
Yes absolutely.
He's also not as famous.
He is weird but weird is good to .
I’d love to see him in a Tarantino movie
Was just thinking this. That would be an amazing comeback for him. He’d be amazing in a Tarantino flick.
@@Brandonarchambault Glover and Daniel Day Lewi would make a fantastic Tarantino's movie.
Alex Gama don’t even get me started on DDL. Dude is an amazing actor. Him and Glover together...would be incredible in the lens of Tarantino for sure.
Agreed. Tarantino, DDL, and Crispin: the Internet has spoken.
Yes!
that beard makes glover look exactly like old man marley from home alone
You thought you'd get some thumbs up didn't you? It's cool. Fail.
Adam Mehra They've got four so far.
Adam Mehra
The fact that more than zero people got that obscure reference makes it a success.
it was zero when i uh, nevermind
Adam Mehra NOLAN HAS ALL MY THUMBS
"Hey you, get your damn hands off her propaganda!'
Aaron Pollard, I appreciate your humour, you gave me a good belly laugh!
Oddly enough I didnt see it that way at the end. I saw it as a direct result of when he punched out Biff and stood up for himself he changed the course of his life. He ended up NOT working at some business under biff.. he gained confidence in himself etc.. and it changed the entire path of his life. He got his book published etc. To me I just took the "money reward" aspect as just a part of their over all life improvements in general. And in the second one they did kind of make a big deal about the time machine not being invented to win at gambling.. Of course AFTER I type all this out I see how old this is LOL -- Oh well.
That's how I always thought of it.
The younger George McFly isn't confident enough to show off his writing skills. But when he gets the confidence, he sells some stories and people give him money. It's that simple.
Yeah, me too. It was more about being confident and discovering self-belief etc. that allowed him to make the most of his life... and a little extra cash didn't hurt.
But from the way Crispin Glover described it; maybe it was even worse than what we saw. Like, he was uncomfortable about the final version too. But it sounds like they made some changes so maybe it was even worse.
I'm dying to know now what he was talking about re; the other character who was in Biff's place as some kind of 'underling' type role (what's the word I'm looking for? not necessarily a servant, but just to show that George is the big man by having someone else be working for him).
Edit: Just found out there was a maid called Bertha in one of the earlier scripts; maybe that's what he was talking about. I can see how he thought that was a little bit gross, tbh. In terms of the message it puts out there. Especially if she was a black character, but it only specifies a "uniformed maid". Whatever image that conjures up might differ from person to person...
Exactly ! He's making out like the movie ended with them living in a twenty bedroom mansion overlooking their own private island. They were modestly comfortable at the end of the movie. The guy is clearly a bit bitter especially as this was the only successful movie he was part of.
@@dmbrooksonbass Yeah, they lived in the exact same house didn't they? Maybe with tens of thousands of dollars in renovations and furniture, but people don't have to be rich to do that - just smart with finances and credit.
People always thing Crispin is weird, but in settings like this one he always seems so measured and knows what he's talking about. I think he's just a very deep and misunderstood man. I don't blame him at all for walking away with the reasons he's said here. He knows who he is and you have to respect that...
He didn't behave this calmly 30 years ago. He was constantly difficult because everything had to fit his viewpoint, or it was a "problem".
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Yeah, Crispin is entitled to his opinion regarding to the moral of the film he was in but he should have known that he is there to act in the film and that at the end of the day it is Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis's vision. The studio using his image after kicking him out of the franchise now that was wrong. If Crisping didnt complain about them using his image, studios would be able to get away with it.
Gotta respect a person who holds true to their values despite financial consequences.
That is not what I get at the end of Back to the Future. Never crossed my mind actually. What I get is that George got self confidence (something I severely lack) to pursue his dreams and had been rewarded for it.
Lorraine was better because she got a more self confident George instead of the original George who let people bully him around thus holding him back from his dreams and her dreams.
That is what I took away from the ending.
I think that is what most people got from it and of course I agree
totally agree with you!
I mean how can anyone else come up with anything different?
I guess you could take Crispin's but most people just don't think that way. I think Crispin over thought it.
+Pixar The Great i kind of agree but you say that so come how come biff ended up with a better job than george
Chris Gemmell
In the original timeline. It was obvious that George and Biff were working at the same company and Biff was basically riding off the coattails of George. If you remember there is a scene early on where Biff asks if George did his paperwork, and mentions that he needs time to copy it into his handwriting.
In the now altered timeline, it is clear that George is better off than Biff as Biff only has a car detailing company while George is a successful writer based off his experiences with Marty from the planet Vulcan.
He looks badass with that beard and suit. We need more movies with him.
Yea it gives me john wick vibes
He would be a good joker
See Crispin at his neurotic best in "River's Edge" with Dennis Hopper and Keanu Reeves.
+Black Death 1347 I still have a hard time seeing Keanu as anything other than that metalhead.
Mike Carter Yes, Keanu is at his metal/meat-headiest in that one, which, given Parenthood, Dracula, and Point Break, is no small accomplishment.
Tom Miller I'm not sure if that movie would have worked at all if Crispin hadn't brought so much vitality to the "Layne" role. Someone had to carry that film, and Keanu wasn't exactly doing it.
Black Death 1347 Love the movie. Keanu "Made" that movie. Lol 😂
Yes!! I only ever watch that film for Crispin! Cracks me up when he’s ranting in the car.
“Damnnnnnnn iiiiiiiiyyeeeeuutttttttt!!!”
If anyone is wondering what Crispin means when he talks about the ending in the script he read, there was a fourth draft script that was finalized on October 12 1984 . This was the version I believe they used when they originally started filming shortly after with Eric Stoltz as Marty. It was very similar to the final Michael J.Fox as Marty film, but with some major differences. In the end of that script Marty wakes up ( like in the film) to a better, happier family, but George's is now wealthy because his book has already been published and was a major best seller. The family now has a maid named Bertha ( the servant rather than Biff ), and is soon going to be moving into a new house ( likely a mansion ) that has a tennis court and swimming pool. I think it was a good call to change the ending and limit the Mcfly's good fortune to a level that can be attributed to George having more confidence and passing it on to his children. It's reasonable to think that George would be more successful without his own insecurity and Biff as his boss to hold him back. It's also reasonable that George was able to give his children more confidence in themselves and they too would be more successful. I think Crispin has a point about the overly materialistic ending in that version, but I think a lot of people missed the overlying message of both versions : if you believe in yourself, you can accomplish anything.
Dude wrote a book here.
George McFly being wealthier after Marty went back in time was bc of him standing up to Biff at the dance. He was no longer held back by fear and shyness and was now able to do the things he wanted to do ... like write that book. Marty having that truck bought by his parents was just an example of that success. It was the same house, not a mansion.
Being the same house doesn't change the point Glover is making. Wealth and material possessions were still the being featured and emphasized heavily as a goal to attain. The only reason they used the same house was to make the reveal more gradual and surprising. If he had come home to a mansion, it would give it away immediately that things were drastically different and that his parents weren't the same people anymore.
@@jimmorrison9287 no, they used the same house bc Marty doesn’t have new memories of living at a new house/address, he can’t. Only subtle changes can happen directly in his life like his parents being happier, his brother having a better job, his sister having multiple dates. The truck wasn’t super expensive, but Marty has his own vehicle instead of borrowing his parents car which shows that his family is doing better. It doesn’t mean they’re rich, just doing better than before.
Great points.
@@Islanders83 but the father also had a BMW…
Great point...100percent...it's not about materialism....this Crispin is a liberal hippie...
The fact that the whole family became yuppies always bothered me too.
@Wes 76
It was 1985 and no one liked yuppies then. Right down to their BMW. It was a poor choice.
we've got a sociologist over here
It's an important message. 'Self Fulfilling Prophecy', if you think you're a loser you'll become a loser.
Yeah, the 80s were such a materialistic decade.
@@NUNYABIZNNAAAZZZ success , much like an opinion is subjective.
I've only just found out that crispin glover wasn't in the second back to future movie after all these years.
An old friend of mine was Crispin's neighbor for a few years. She said he was very private and reserved. This was right around the time of The River's Edge. He is an amazing actor and I wish he was in more film productions.
Many people say this guy is difficult to work with..i wonder why...maybe he forgot that he works in an industry of MAKE BELIEVE... its not real and he takes things too seriously..thats why no one wants to cast him in anything meaningful..hes too corny and takes the fun out of everything..I think he sucks
I don't care if he got the moral good or not, NO ACTOR should be discriminated on because he expressed an opinion.
I am so angry, it was probably soo frustrating for him
Nowadays, you're discriminated against MORE BECAUSE you have an opinion like this that is LESS GREEDY and more about what's healthier for the family unit and interpersonal relationships.
How healthy do you think a society is based on the messages of "What can you do for me?" and "Who can I marry that has a nice, fat bank account?" That's not that far removed from eugenics, btw. Ever notice how many rich families marry into other rich families? The upshot of this in Europe was that the rich/elite were so paranoid for a while that they were literally marrying first- and second-cousins and that created problems for the royal families later down the road. All those nice recessive genes and genetic diseases that aren't that frequent became MUCH MORE PREVALENT in royal families which is why you had people going insane later in life and hemophiliacs not living into middle age. This affected the course of history! King George of England during the American Revolution was "not always there" because of a metabolic condition he inherited and even if the Romanovs had survived the Russian Revolution, that family line was doomed through the son (Alexei) because the son was hemophiliac and would not have made it past early adulthood. They'd have had to import "fresh blood" if they wanted a czar to replace Nicholas II. "Fresh blood" would have been another European royal (yet ANOTHER cousin) who would introduced more fatal recessive conditions in that gene pool.
I think you only have his side of the story
He's an actor hired to do a part. If he doesn't like what the character is doing or what it's about, he turns down the part. The actor is not the writer or director. He can express his opinion but once the director makes the decision, there it is.
@@moloko912 Exactly, I'm sure Zemeckis and others would have plenty to say about his characterization of events.
Crispin Glover would be perfect to portray Rasputin - looks just like him.
Still he played Raskolnikov :)
this needs to happen. I think he'd love the idea as well.
the dude from harry potter did! Snape
Good call!..
He's definitely due for a comeback.
Back to the Future illustrated the depth of Crispin's talent. He owned the roll so much so it is iconic 50's nerd.
role not roll
@@danieladams4001🍣
Wow, to play a stereotype. What an achievement
Crispin Glover is a great guy and actor. It's not surprising he's not reached the mainstream success he deserves given his very moral character and questioning mind. I still think his best is yet to come ;-)
I think you are right :^)
He’s very handsome too with the extra weight he’s put on
IDK, he is nutoriousl y hard to work with. Somehow he seems to think he knows how a character he is playing is supposed to act, more than the directors and writers..
@@sdHansy I suspect Crispin is often the smartest man in the room and it's difficult for others to accept that, which I'd imagine causes a clash of egos on set. Just me guessing though tbh.
You can never be sure about these things.
Actually to me Crispin Glover shows signs of narcissistic personality disorder. I'm not saying he has it. Just that he shows some signs and that I see similarities. The way he blames people, the way he paints Bob Gale as the worst he can think of (a thief), the way he accuses him of deliberately lying to hide some illegal activities (which could just have been a honest mistake, and probably was), and the way he cannot let go of this until Bob Gale apologizes. All red flags. He also made 750.000$ through the lawsuit, yet he cannot let go of this, and it's said he demanded 8x as much pay as the studio and his own manager thought was reasonable, despite it being quite early in his career. I've seen these things all before, some in my personal life.
People with NPD are exceptionally good liars, and can have good acting skills, too, although usually these are a bit eccentric (which they were in back to the future). So, guys, be careful which side you're fooled by. It's easy for him to pull entire audiences onto his side, with him being an actor and handsome and all. Even professional psychologists sometimes cannot diagnose NPD in patients due to how brilliantly they lie.
Again, I'm not saying, that he has NPD.
Money doesn't guarantee happiness, but it sure as hell solves a lot of problems, that poor people have. Teaching young people that becoming skillful at something, and working hard, will most likely give you a higher quality of live, than you would otherwise have, is a positive message.
George became more skillful and hard-working in the second timeline?
Crispin is 💯 right. The ending from the 4th draft was pompous as hell. The 4th draft had a maid named Bertha, who brings Marty a plate of French toast. George then tells her she’ll be working in a larger kitchen when the new McFly home is finished, after they tile the swimming pool and paint the tennis court. Thankfully they removed those corny lines and the maid from the final version of the film. Crispin is 100% right about the ending showing too much flaunting of wealth. It wasn’t needed. Success means having a colored person cleaning your home and feeding your family? Oh please, that ending was so out of touch. 🤮
Person of color*
Thank god they changed it, racial politics aside it really wouldn’t have been a good look at all.
The sequels (especially II) did suffer from Crispin's absence. I was a 13 year old kid, and I could tell the difference, and I missed him. Crispin Glover is pure magic!
No you couldn’t lol especially at 13
@@StuffedBearSus honestly
Okay 👌🤪
It didn’t hurt the films at all as his role in part two was small and no one could even tell. Part 3 was the one where you could see the difference as Fox had to play the ancestor role (although Fox was great in that role too). But missing Crispín didn’t hurt the sequels.
Glover's turn as Mr. World in American Gods is one of the most attuned, exquisite, fluid performances in existence. Why don;t we see more of him?!
Episode 5 in Cabinet of Curiosities, I would say that it's probably his best role yet, mesmerizing
I'd say that he isn't easily controlled because he thinks for himself.
He’s kind of difficult to work with because of how much of a thinker he is. He won’t do… pretty much anything for the sake of doing it. Every single thing has a reason.
I think it was on the David Letterman show where he said, "When they're through with you they're through with you." He was referring to how Hollywood works.
@@Madmetalmaniac42069
Actors are not paid to be thinkers, they are paid to act, play a role.
Great actor...but I thought the monetary gain was just a side effect of McFly's new found confidence after punching Biff and getting the girl...never saw it that they needed the money to be happy
And Marty won the truck from the givaway contest.
Does anyone else think he saw the illumanati references to 911 and up coming events and bailed?
@@g6rcteam81 that was a great video....so many "coincidences"....I think you only realize the references after the incident tho...idk
@@cristopherdiaz222 I was wondering that also . Just strange how it all fit together.
They still lived in the same house. It wasn’t a mansion or anything. The director had to show that there were some changes to George.
Ive seen those movies so many times and i never knew it was a different actor... wow!
+Jason Alabama same here. i never knew either. first time I'm learning about this.
The shots that show his face, except old George, is him. The other actor in 1955 is always showing his back. Take a look how many times George is shown just from his back.
+Jason Alabama Me either, i was just on IMDb and looking for what the actors look like today andd was surprised to see a completely different person who played George Mcfly, i kind of thought someone had hacked the site and put a random picture of an old man but nope. weird thing is that they never even mentioned Crispin Glover
It was very obvious he was not in the sequel. Herp Derp.
Well we never really get good shot of the other actor (Jeffrey Weissman) as George McFly.
All I have to say is that his dancing was epic in Friday the 13th part 4.
+RandomVideoCircus Yeah, and let's not forget "Jingle Dale" from Wild At Heart".
I heard somewhere that when they filmed the scene they didn't know what song they were gonna use so they put on AC/DC's Back in black and that's what he is dancing to.
+RandomVideoCircus Where's the damn corkscrew???
+Sgt Reed that is true.
+RandomVideoCircus That dancing was just a shock to having a cleaver in his face.
I'm glad Fox, Lloyd, Wilson, Gale and Zemekis understood what this movie was about: light family comedy. If Stoltz and Glover, the "serious" actors had their way, this film would have flopped. You're an actor. You take the job, you act the script.
Stoltz and Glover were difficult to work with. Stoltz was fired and miscast. Glover did well and properly cast, but couldn't shut his mouth as needed. The movie definitely would have flopped with Stoltz. Terrible casting with him as the lead.
Glover's take on how "Back to the Future" ended and how it promotes the idea of wealth and fortune as being most important and the key to happiness is a bit skewed. To me, the happiness didn't come from George's wealth. It came from him being confident and driven to pursue his dreams. That's what Marty taught him to do. Marty taught George to be more assertive and to not be afraid to follow his dreams, and likewise Marty learned that himself. From George becoming more self-confident came his writing career and then subsequent wealth. I think it's particularly skewed considering the themes in "Part II" with Biff accruing tremendous amounts of wealth from the sports almanac his future self gave to him. Wealthy Biff in the alternate 1985 was a tyrant. All his money and power had gone to his head to the point that he was even more ruthless and had more freedom to expand upon his negative qualities. Ultimately in that time line, off screen, Lorraine shoots and kills Biff somewhere in the 1990s, I believe, and that's why we see old Biff after returning from his trip to the past staggering out of the DeLorian and (in deleted footage) disappearing like Marty was doing so on stage at the dance in the first film.
Like confidence lead to wealth? Like wealth means happiness? I agree with Crispin. You're a brainwashed sheep.
thomascampr Let's face it, wealth isn't necessarily happiness, but financial security sure takes the edge off of life. I'm not a brainwashed sheep, either. Don't act like you know me.
jw870206
Problem is your conclusion has to come from an assertion. Anyone's conclusion does since it's directly related to whatever happens throughout George's life after the past has been changed. But, no matter what you believe the movie still makes a connection between wealth and happiness in the end.
Brandon P
Wealth or financial security? There's a difference.
jw870206 By going back to 1955 and giving himself the almanac he created an alternate timeline where old 2015 Biff is now a mega rich tyrant. That's why he is dying when he gets out of the Delorean he erased himself from the normal 2015 but existed long enough to return the Delorean to normal 2015.
He makes a good a good point, and I agree with him. I remember that scene where Marty's parents walk into the house dressed kind of fancy; yet, it's funny because they live in such a small house. Cool actor! I wish they would put him in more films!
People who live in small houses can have fancy clothes too.
they wont put him in more films ..too difficult to work with..always trying bto change things..its not your film..you're just an actor...make like a tree and...you knooooooowww😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
@@elitetechnologyservices4401 yeah Great actor, too many opinions
Money was a result if George's confidence, confidence he gained from standing up to Biff
I never thought it was over the top wealthy like Biff Tower type wealth. He still lived in the same house too
@@2bituser569 you're right. The only differences that I remember were Dave worked an office job instead of fast food, George got his book published, and the shiny new truck. 2 of those can be outcomes of confidence not money
Mike D L
Notice too that both older siblings still lived at home too.
@Mike D L Also Linda apparently had lots of male interest which you could argue is down to self-confidence that her now successful parents would have instilled in her.
Mike D L and the wrecked Chevy Nova was upgraded to a BMW 733i. And their clothes and furniture was nicer too.
great interview, he is a fascinating guy.
watch him on letterman. He's fucked in the head like all hollywierdos.
Yeah, but Crispin was in character for his film 'Reuben and Ed', that at that time nobody had heard of. Not even Letterman. That interview was all an act that went over everyones head, including yours apparently.
@@sgt.thundercok4704 hmmmmm...pot, kettle...?
I always thought the second film his character looked off.. Makes sense now.
They even put the other actor upside down to make it less obvious it wasn’t crispin
Never knew until now. So many years i thought he phoned the part in and didn't give af. I have a lot more respect for him now. Sadly the propaganda worked.
The ultimately plastic surgery.
@@rsmith8434 they don't give you an opportunity to see his face and hes wearing a mold of crispen gloves face moron
Same
he's one of those people you can just tell that they're being honest and upfront. I agree with his point about the monetary-thing. he has great instincts. a wonderful actor.
Crispin acatlly misses the real point of what happens in the movie. George McFly was scared of others opinion of him and when Marty comes back home from the 50's George did not have that fear in him anymore, of others peoples opinion of him so he had self confidence in himself.
joseph frank Yes, that is true but him being confident in himself didn't have to do with wealth.
joseph frank Exactly, and that confidence is what allowed him to become wealthy.
Thingsandstuff Yes and also in the ending that even though they were wealthy they stayed living in the same house and not showing them in a big mansion is a a great message too.
The Presidential Perkolator Go away.
joseph frank he said there was a different ending tho
STAND TALL, CRISPIN! HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR YOURSELF! YOU LET PEOPLE WALK OVER YOU NOW, THEY'LL BE WALKIN' OVER YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!
Mayor........... he could be mayor!
That'll be the day! When we have a narsassitic mayor!
You watch people someday I'm going to be mayor! Abd immm gonna clean up this town.
Good Crispen.......... you can start by sweeping the floor.
@@davidward9487 Mayor Crispin Glover. I like the sound of that.
Much respect to Crispin for calling out Steven Spielburg in his 2013 essay.
salysellsss 2003
Pedophilia?
What did he say?
caramelhoney29 Check out Crispin Glover’s essay “What Is It?”
To the people saying Glover was wrong about the ending and that it was Zemekis' movie not his... well Zemekis now agrees with him that the ending with Marty getting the car of his dreams etc. is dated and shallow. He has said as much in interview. And if Glover is telling the truth that the ending was originally even worse - he hints at them having a servant that wasn't Biff - it's not hard to understand his concerns. Sure, maybe it wasn't his place to voice them, but he wasn't wrong. Just a smartass.
*He was so right.* He's one of the *few* actors who *fought against* this Illegal activity. When Star Trek The Next Generation happened...toy companies *used the actors likeness WITHOUT permission or compensation* for their toy lines. Patrick Stewart & the other cast took legal action. This is *very* important for actors to do.
He objected to the morals of the movie including getting rich. But then he ultimately declined to be in the second movie because his pay was half of Lea's. I sense a contradiction here.
Being fairly paid for your work is not the same as the objection he had.
@@BatCorkillEspecially since you just made the producers a truck load of cash.
i think you're simplifying things too much...as Crispin said, it was more complicated and actually explained some details...it's like you didn't listen to the interview
A gentle, cultured, well spoken man. I have nothing but respect for Mister Glover.
Money doesn't buy happiness, but it can sure make life a lot damn easier.
+simhopp "They say money can't buy happiness."
"Yeah ,but at least you can pick your own type of misery !"
Easy Money 1983
+Adam Wagener Only in the hands of someone with righteous intentions
+Adam Wagener Tell that to all the lottery winners whose lives became a living hell. And actually, many people say it just changes what your problems are, it doesn't make your life easier at all.
+Jake Jenkins It "can" make life a lot damn easier. It also often cannot.
Rich woman: _Money isn't everything, you know._
Poor man: _Not when you've got it._
*The Giant 1956*
River's Edge was Crispen at his best.
Bartleby the Scrivener..."I prefer not too" is pretty good also
Oh god yeah he was great in that - there was one part I rewound like three times cos I was cracking up so much.
Slayer and Hallow's Eve soundtrack fuck yeah
@@vapordreams983 AMEN!!!
He may be extremely weird, but I can't imagine anybody else playing George McFly. That laugh gets me every time.
Miles Finnch haha, me too! Even when I was 10 and saw it when it came out in the theater, that laugh was and still is one of my favorite things in the movie. :)
What is extremely weird about Crispen?
2003 essay on Stephen Spielberg written by Crispin Glover
I love Crispin Glover! Such a great actor. True to his philosophy in life. Big Respect.
Considering the success of the first one they should have given him the raise.
Companies will always try to lowball employees, regardless of how much $ they're making. He got the last laugh though, he won $680K from his lawsuit.
I'm glad he won the lawsuit. I'm sure he rubbed people the wrong way during the movie, and was low-balled on an offer to return. Who knows.
Everyone here needs to read the 4th draft so they can truly understand what Crispin is talking about. He isn't talking about the ending you saw in the film. He's talking about the 4th draft which featured Bertha the maid, and George telling Bertha she'll be working in a much larger kitchen as soon as the new McFly house is finished with the swimming pool and tennis court. LOL. Crispin is 100% right, the ending flaunted too many superficial things the McFly family had instead of focusing on the improvement of the McFly family itself.
George McFly throwing some red pills here lmao
Crispin is spot on right! , the truck really did not make sense to me, as well as biff cleaning it
Glover is so much brighter than the interviewer.
"I'M STRONNG! I'M STRONNG! I CAN ARM WRESTLE! DO YOU WANNA ARM WRESTLE??"
To this day I'm not sure if that was real or staged. I like how they cut to a commercial and when they came back he was gone and David Letterman said something like, "That's why drugs are bad."
"I CAN KICK!"
"OK, I'M GONNA GO CHECK ON THE TOP 10 LIST."
This guy is an awesome Character actor and so many people took advantage of him. He Rocks in Hot Tub Time Machine!!!!
He was THAT dancer in Friday The 13th : The Final Chapter
Interesting. I've just bought the BTTF Trilogy in Blu-Ray, and Bob Gale is the one who continues to attribute the absence of Crispin Glover from 2 of the trilogies to Crispin behaving like a prima donna who wants more money. If we're to believe Glover, it was Gale preserving the "Me Generation" ethos, and preserving the concern for product placement in films that was probably closer to the truth. I'm inclined to believe Glover on this one: there was a lot in the trilogy which left me feeling uneasy, although I do love and enjoy it.
Crispin Glover is so talented and the other 2 films were not nearly as good as they could have been if he was in them
Glad that I heard this. I'd only ever heard the Gale version before. Many many times.
I haven't seen a lot of interviews of Crispin Glover, but the few I have seen were quite strange in terms of the way he would act and the things he would say & do, but this is the first interview I've seen where he's been an intelligent, articulate individual and it's good to see him being his true self. That said, it's very sad how the studio apparently short-changed him by offering so little money for his part in the second movie. I also did not know that wasn't him in part 2. I have a new respect for Crispin now.
Crispin Glover is a fantastic actor and If you haven't already seen it, I highly recommend the 2003 remake of _Willard_. That being said he is the *Ultimate Hypocrite* in regards to BTTF's money = happiness ending. Take his own word for it 6:07 The issue surrounding the question of whether or not he would reprise his role was about Money, More Money, and Much More Money. Bob Gale spoke frankly of this matter in the documentary about BTTF II. Now what's interesting (and speaking of Hypocrites) in the BTTF 1 documentary Robert Zemeckis himself states that he has since rethought the 'BMW in the driveway' ending, *basically saying what CG is saying in this interview!* This from a Director with an estimated net worth of $50Million Dollars!!??
+Johnny Favorite So even though Bob Gale committed a crime, which unfortunately he was only civilly held responsible for by Glover, and he is now slandering Glover, you believe Gale when he slanders Glover because... because... because... criminals are honest and the victims are liars in your eyes???
+Brent Clouda It was never a matter for the criminal courts. The suit was against Universal's insurance company. The matter was settled for the official sum of $750,0000. Which would buy everything that Marty and his family owned by the end of BTTF.
Know what you are talking about before you back Glover by making ad hominem attacks against individuals who were never charged with any crime.
+Johnny Favorite Crispin is full of it and must be very hard to work with. It's not the actor's job to dictate the plot of the movie, if he wasn't happy with the script he should not have taken the job. But don't take the job and then try to rewrite the film "in media res". I'd be pissed at him too, it wasn't his film.
I never got the feeling from the ending of Part I that the McFlys were rich, they just seemed upper middle class to me. The point I took away is that George learned to stand up for himself which resulted in him following his dreams and led to success in other areas of his life. Marty was just supposed to be a typical teenager whose main interests were having a hot girlfriend and a cool truck. The film was not supposed to be Schindler's list, it was just entertainment ffs.
+gurgy3 My thoughts exactly; besides money *can* buy happiness. In 1985 $3.55 bought me admission to an unprecedented, nearly 100% original Science Fiction/Comedy/1950s American Nostalgia Movie that provided 1 hour and 56minutes of pure happiness.
+Johnny Favorite Actually Glover is not wrong...
In the original script's ending, not only did it end with a rich McFly family...
but an uber rich McFly family that have black servants washing their car instead of Biff. That is what Glover was talking about without "getting into specifics". The script had called for black servants at the end, serving the McFly family, that ending would have killed the movie.
Zemekis hated Glover, but without that suggested change to the ending...
it loses some of it's appeal and becomes an example of 80's racial stereotyping in film.
I know it doesn't help that this is constantly brought up, but the way it greatly bothers him (some interviews he really gets mad talking about it) I think reflects that his story is factually correct. If ever pressed into a situation where you KNOW you did nothing wrong but are being accused of something, and everybody who it is most important to make understand DOESN'T believe you, it is incredibly frustrating and can plague your thoughts on an OCD like level. It sounds like even after the lawsuit in his favor, Crispin still can't sleep with it - but again, that's probably just because he's tired of being asked and forced to relive it.
I definitely don't know the story, but at a former job I had to defend against false accusations that left me fighting for my job and forever tainted the respect between every important higher up and myself. I lost so much sleep over wanting to prove the truth to them and being unable to sway them even with all the facts. I can't imagine if the 'enemy' was a force as powerful as Hollywood. How do you win as just one guy vs a monopoly superpower? I just can relate to the frustration that comes rushing back even decades later when a heated topic comes back up where justice never felt fully served. Guess these things just happen.
Now imagine the truth being backwards. Imagine it's Bob Gale who tries to defend himself, while Glover lies and brings whole audiences onto his side with his victim performance.
I see some signs of narcissistic personality disorder in Glover. I'm not saying he has it, just that I see signs and similarities, some even to my personal life. The way he blames people, the way he paints Bob Gale as the worst he can think of (a thief), the way he accuses him of deliberately lying to hide some illegal activities (which could just have been a honest mistake, and probably was), and the way he cannot let go of this until Bob Gale apologizes. All red flags. He also made 750.000$ through the lawsuit, yet he cannot let go of this (which, again, might have simply be a honest mistake), and it's said he demanded 8x as much pay as the studio and his own manager thought was reasonable, despite it being quite early in his career.
People with NPD are exceptionally good liars, and can have good acting skills, too, although usually these are a bit eccentric (which they were in back to the future). So, be careful which side you're fooled by. It's easy for him to pull entire audiences onto his side, with him being an actor and all. Even professional psychologists sometimes cannot diagnose NPD in patients due to how brilliantly they lie.
If you don't want others to experience the same thing you did, you don't believe either side. You also have to spend around 100x as much thinking time figuring out what really happened. That's hard and that's why people don't do it.
@@nightmareTomek jesus...under every single positive comment u write this...and CG is the narcissist
@@tomwilko7841 What you call positive, I call naive. Take into consideration that Glover might be lying to your face.
It very much looks to me like he's lying, but nobody here even considers that.
Every youtube comments are the same: Glover talks -> people scream how he's the best human ever. Someone else explains his dealings with Glover -> everyone hates on him. People believe what random content creators are telling them without question.
@@nightmareTomek ur entitled to ur opinion...its just the obsessive copy and pasting under 15/20 comments on the same video is strange...imho
@@nightmareTomeki agree. Lots of the things he says are so slowly measured rhat it comes off as saying what his lawyer perscribed
I'm willing to bet 99% of everyone who saw this movie saw it the way you and I saw it. Glover seems to be trying to push a noble narrative that requires revisionist history as to how the movie was received. Crispin literally said the reasoning behind his argument with Zemeckis was that Bob's vision created a 'money equals happiness' message, and to quote Glover, the movie told people to "go out and borrow money from banks". How in the fuck do any of the Back to the Future movies leave the viewer with that message? That feels as ridiculous and archaic as the post Columbine media spun narrative that violent video games will turn your children into murders. It's a low hanging, panic-moralist campaign slogan that sounds honorable in radio/television interviews. The biggest remedy for these kinds of moronic arguments is the implementation of time. Enough time goes by (like with these movies) and every one of us can look back and say "wait a minute, I wasn't left with a 'money buys happiness' message in those movies at all when I watched them".
I had no opinion of this guy before finding this old clip pop up in my algorithm 9 years too late, but he just comes off as a 'won't someone please think about the children' panic mom from the 90s. I'm also willing to bet in an argument over movie story telling, Robert Zemeckis has a better fucking idea as to how a mass audience will interpret the moral and positive messaging of love and the human spirit than Crispin Glover does. If Crispin was on set of Forrest Gump he'd be arguing with Zemeckis that Lt. Dan buying Forrest stock in Apple (leading him to no longer have to worry about money anymore) was "telling the audience the solution to all life's problems is to buy stocks and get money and then they can be happy".
Couldnt agree more, what a deluded self rightous moron
Preach! 🤜 You nailed it. For 99%, the turnaround life was a great message, bc it said: 'Go for your dream, don't be afraid!"
Honestly Cripsin is right. Back to the Future is a near perfect film and the for me the final ending is the biggest problem. The idea that Marty goes back to a future with a completely different life, completely different siblings, and a completely new universe is horrifying. It would have been a lot better if they had listened to Crispin and had Marty go back to a future just like the one at the start, a poor family, normal siblings, etc. but little changes, like more love between George and Marlene, George standing up more to Biff, etc.
I don’t think so. The real message was “if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything”. The family’s new lifestyle came out of George breaking free of his insecurities, actively pursuing his career as a writer and making a lucrative living off of it. I don’t think that’s a bad message at all.
Why is it unlikely for those changes to have happened? If we think about it………….. The obvious clues that self confidence could change the McFly family’s future were there………….And I believe them to be very relevant
Firstly at the end of the movie, Lorraine is with George out of love and not pity because her dad hits George with a car. They weren’t in love in the first part of the film. Lorraine was not an alcoholic when Marty returns, George was visibly looking after himself and they had hobbies in common. That’s gotta do wonders for a person’s self confidence in itself.
The older siblings’ more successful professional lives can easily be explained by the encouragement they would have received by loving parents who were in love with each other.
Then there’s the bit when George explains he never let’s people see his science fiction stories for fear of rejection and being told they were no good. His newfound self-confidence took away that fear. He followed his dreams and those dreams were more lucrative when he had some success.
Before Marty goes back to 1955, Biff was actively still bullying George and was his supervisor at work. Having discovered in the 50s that his life didn’t have to be that way, there was no way that situation was going to be same when Marty returned to 1985. George had stood up to Biff and wasn’t going to be a doormat. Which meant Biff couldn’t use George anymore for his own gain. Therefore, it is likely that George would be doing better professionally. That does usually mean options to have nicer things.
Then the last clue before Marty returns, when Doc hears that George had never stood up to Biff in his life. Doc’s response there and then suggests that he’s expecting obvious differences to be there when Marty returns.
I don’t take the message from the movie that having love and self-confidence guarantees financial gain. But having self-confidence to follow your dreams could lead to those rewards.
In my younger days I had serious self-doubt, which prevented me from ever asking the ladies I fancied, to have a date etc. Then years later I found out that some of those ladies wanted me to ask them. But I always assumed they’d say no. To find that out when it was too late was crushing at the time lol. To find out what I could have achieved if I had had that little bit of self-belief has pushed me to come out of my shell and go for what I previously considered unobtainable. This I believe is what George did.
The message I take is “If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything” In other words don’t let yourself be defeated by yourself. Put yourself out there and there can be rewards.
@@leerevell453 Underrated comment, nice ✌🏼😎
Marlene
I think the ending fit in quite well with the Reagan era values of 1980s America.
George didn't get rich in the end. He only got successfull because he had the guts to follow his dream of being a writer. Marty told him he could do whatever he wanted if he put his mind to it.
Yes, he had money to buy Marty the truck, but he was still living in the same house he lived in the other timeline, when he was a "loser".
It was never about money, but about inner strength.
How didn't he get it?😢
Crispin Glover weird dude or not I totally believe him 100%...we don't know what really goes on behind the scenes , but with this much detail of the story I gotta give him the benefit of a doubt at least....
I didn't know that and I understand why he would be pissed.
Great to hear Crispin's side of the story. I'd love to hear him talk at length about "Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter" as well.
no disrespect to Crispin, but i think he missed the message. as his character said "if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything" was the message.
+Jose Rodriguez I think he got the message, He just didnt like the outcome
+Jose Rodriguez "If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything" was indeed the movie's theme/message. That said, what the McFlys (& the Tannens) wanted to accomplish with their minds was "monetary gain". So, Crispin's take still stands (despite you mentioning the movie's theme).
+Jose Rodriguez Weeelllll that wasn't his character that said that it was Doc.
+FLYING DREAM PRODUCTIONS The McFlys weren't seeking monetary gain. George McFly became more confident in himself and set his mind to becoming a sci-fi writer and ended up being a successful one. That in turn led to having enough disposable income for them to afford a better lifestyle and a new car. Their wealth was a side effect of the characters doing what they wanted to do for a career and succeeding at it. Seeking out wealth was never a focus of the movie.
As for Biff becoming basically a servant at the end, he was dominant over George in the beginning of the movie and the movie had to show that George became the dominant man in that character relationship at the end. It wasn't enough for him to deck Biff back in 1955 because that would have only shown George's side of character development. We needed to see Biff's resolution and the pacing of the movie between when George punches Biff and when Marty makes it back to 1985 didn't allow for that to happen until the end of the movie.
I really don't see how anyone could see the ending of that movie as corporate propaganda for becoming rich.
+FLYING DREAM PRODUCTIONS Not really though because we see in the 50s that George's stories are his life and writing Science Fiction is what he loved to do. So yeah he had new found confidence at the end of the prom that led him to believe that his science fiction writing were good and he could let people 'read his stories' and it ended up becoming a big hit. As for Marty being excited for that new truck, guess what he was a teenager who grew up poor and this was his first taste of anything nice so yeah he would be excited to get something he really desired just days earlier that he never thought would happen. It's also not like he started jerking off and was like OMG WE HAVE MONEY NOW!!!!
Faye Dunaway- "Whats my motivation?" Roman Polanski- "Just say the fucking words, your paycheck is your motivation."....
+jobless205 And then Roman left the set, got a 14-year-old drunk, had his way with her, and ran off to avoid charges.
Yes, I jumped on it quicker than Roman did a defenseless child.
magazinekitchen Bully for you.
+jobless205 Wow... swearing that the view of a greedy, self centered, sociopathic child molesting criminal is gospel, while attacking the view of a victim of crime. A crime which Glover held the perpetrator Bob Gale, whom continues to slander his victim to this very day, civilly responsible for. You're sick...
Brent Clouda Zemeckis and Gale did the franchise a huge service getting rid of this fucking tool. Good day sir.
It was the eighties, Crispin. "Money equals happiness" was a very popular concept back then.
It’s been a popular idea since the beginning of humankind, but Crispin is correct. The moral message at the end is pretty bad. Even if you try to make wealth a byproduct of love, you are sending the message that the acquisition of wealth is a reason to love your family. But BTTF is just one of many 80s films that had moral issues. Revenge of the Nerds and Sixteen Candles promoted rape, for example.
I always found it weird that they made the Mcflys yuppies at the end of the first film. I guess what he is saying makes sense in that regard
Marty helped his father to become the best version of himself. I don't see anything bad on that.
It was the 80s... That was considered successful
I've been thinking the same way as Crispin Glover for more than 30 years. Making the McFly's "rich" (or upper middle-class, or whatever... improving their economic position), was ostentatious and a bad message.
As Brian Hill says, it's very 80's, very Reagan-era, Wall Street (the movie) and so many more movies that involved the protagonist becoming economically rich.
But still... it always feels wrong. For me, it's the worst point of Back to the Future. With that flaw, it's a 9.5. Without it, it could've been a perfect 10.
Greed is good. The problem with the Wall Street movie is that Gordon Gekko was made the loser in the film. They should have made him the president in the end and Bud Fox should have become homeless for being so soft. That would have been a more realistic message.
@@ahyaok100 i love the film and ya know he's right if you go by how Marty's folks are at the start of the film and how they are at the end, they are more in love at the end but i do agree they didn't need to have them be rich at the end cause that does i agree send the wrong message.
at the end their personalities change so much and i know part of it is cause he stood up to Biff as a teenager, but money doesn't money happiness and that isn't the message the film gives.
There is no real Back to The Future without Crispin same way there will NEVER be a REAL Kiss band without Crisscoula&Frehley
Crispin is a great actor! He should be in more movies. Shame how Hollywood works.
Him and Eric Stoltz on the same film bet that was a bag of laughs
This dude wow back-ground-actor bitching
@@markdrotleff4673 background actor in the first film? Ok
I noticed that Eric was actually laughing in the behind-the-scenes photos with Crispin.
@@incognoscente Here what Tom Wilson has to say about Eric he was a complete tool on the set. Eric was mean to Tom the whole period of shooting he used the excuse that he was method. But he wasn't method enough to not being hitting on the actress that plays his mom the whole time.
@@aronm5617 I know what he said. I've even read his memoir so that I could learn more about what he had to say about the issue. What doesn't get mentioned is that Eric wasn't nice to Tom because of how he mishandled Crispin during the audition stage ( Eric and Crispin were already friends since they attended the same drama class).
Crispin is not afraid, for good or bad, I can totally respect that.
I always thought that was kind of strange, so I kind of see his point. "Oh, my parents are nearly entirely different people than they were before I meddled with time... but now they're rich, so who cares?"
They lived in the same house. They weren't exactly rich. Probably just well off or comfortable.
@@gregr3720 The original draft of that scene featured the McFlys having a servant in their home serving them breakfast and talking about the mansion they were about to buy - Crispin pushed for them to change it. You can read the entire draft online. It's in the 4th version of the screenplay.
I can actually really, really relate to this, but not on nearly the scale. As a musician, I've actually had bands put my name on parts I didn't play, and keep my name off parts I did. When your name is affixed to performing art, you don't want that tainted with anyone else's performances, regardless of whether you feel they did better or worse. You want an accurate listing of your performances, so that there's no confusion about your personal style.
Using Glover's likeness in part 2 was highly unethical.
If Crispin were a woodworker, he’d be a Master Woodworker. If he laid brick, he’d be a Master Mason. Whatever this professional actor does, he doesn’t half ass. He’s successful BECAUSE he’s disciplined and dedicated himself to his occupation. Thank you for entertaining me, sir. You’re amongst the elite in the best of Hollywood actors. You become the role, giving me the emotional investment required to be entertained.
I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN HIM IN ANY OTHER MOVIE
If he was a Baiter..
Glover seems brilliant and off his rocker all at once. We've probably all seen it before.
The ending of BTTF 1 ending bugged me because they ended up very successful monetarily but they’re still living in a tiny little suburban home. But yeah, the ending had that mid 80s yuppie feel to it.
The original ending they had a maid named Bertha, and they were talking about the new house they just bought with a bigger kitchen, swimming pool, and tennis court. Source: 4th draft of the film.
He is ultra talented.
It's a damn shame that Crispin Glover is absent from the Back to the Future sequels (I wonder, did they have a part for him in BTTF III as well?) What many people do not remember about BTTF II is that despite its financial success, at the time, the movie was poorly received by both audiences and critics. George McFly's absence demanded a major rewrite of a sequel originally scripted so that, like final final film, it begins in 2015 (this year!) but with the remainder of the film taking place in the 1960s. Having read one draft the earlier BTTF II script online, my impression is that it *_could_* have been a movie with a little more of the flavor we loved from the original (it also had a much cooler ending with Marty and Doc flying the Delorean through some sort of electrical tower power grid in order to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts for time travel!)...sadly, the rewrite ensured that like Biff's Mega Million Dollar Casino, this incarnation of BTTF II quickly faded from existence.
Great filmmakers make something good out of a bad situation. Jaws became a much scarier movie b/c the animatronic shark did not work, forcing Spielberg to only hint at the shark's presence for most of the film. Crispin's absence gave birth to the idea of an alternate 1985 in which George is dead. Leading to the characters basically jumping back into the first film at a different angle. This idea is much more unique than just another time period movie like BTTF3 became. Especially since they've already done the "how do we generate 1.21 gigawatts" problem in the original. Without the uniqueness of part 2, the series would've become overly repetitive by the time BTTF3 came along, possibly resulting in a much more negative reception. Zemeckis himself named BTTF2 as one of his favorites out of his own filmography b/c it put him in a very inventive position of creating events around established ones.
+jp3813 As I see it (and since 1989, I've seen it too many times) BTTF II commits the #1 cardinal sin of all bad sequels; that being it is *literally* a twice fried, 1/3 rehash boring the audience to tears by forcing us to watch BTTF 1 (from different angles....but who cares) for the film's final act. Excellent sequels place the characters the audience knows and loves into previously uncharted territory. To avoid writing a long winded BTTF II review I'll just say that the movie earns a C+ in my book because: it spends barely 10 minutes in 2015 (about right now I think); Biff's character is over saturated in regards to a plot with 🕳Gaping 🕳Holes🕳; Marty's once pragmatic resolve is replaced with a ridiculous and annoying Hot Headed frailty; the scene at George McFly's grave represents horrible acting and an all time, cringeworthy low for the entire film series; etc., etc., ad infinitum, 3 ⚡️Sonic Booms⚡️, 💥Reverse Explosion💥, 🌫Temporal Displacement🌫...I'm just happy it's 2015.
ROTO SCOPIC For most people, you're actually describing BTTF3. In which the characters are just in the same situation as the original: stuck in a time period b/c the DeLorean isn't working right. Only this time, it's actually boring b/c there's no sense of urgency. No schemes that they have to pull off before the train's arrival, the lamest McFly vs Tannen finale, barely any surprises, etc... It's a waiting movie with a random romance thrown in. Waiting for the train, waiting for Doc to wake up, waiting for Marty to come out of the saloon, etc... Your so-called "cardinal sin of all bad sequels" doesn't even apply to BTTF2 given that its 1955 sequence can be considered as a sidequel. The film may be far from being as revered as The Godfather part 2 (which is both a sequel and a prequel), but it does the same thing in that it doesn't just settle for being a rehash of its predecessor's plot like part 3 did. BTW, for a guy who clearly realized the dangers of time travel, Doc sure has no problem screwing with the futures of every passenger on that train. Ah well, what do you expect from a guy who doesn't even remember finding his own grave in 1955?
+ROTO SCOPIC I have to disagree with you. Although the second film was somewhat disliked at the time, it has grown in stature. Even during the period of time IMDB has been around, the appraisal of it has improved. It used to be rated significantly behind part 3, now it's almost a half a point higher than part 3. The script is nearly as good as the first, and it has a lot of iconic elements to it that people still remember. I go back and watch it somewhat regularly and I find it to be immensely entertaining. Part 3 has almost no interest if you're turned off by the 'western' vibe. I do agree that seeing the same scenes from different angles is a bit gimmicky but if those scenes are going to be in a film, one about time travel and trying to save yourself and others from things happening is as good a setup to do so as any.
+jp3813 I just stated this in a reply to OP but BTTF 2's stature has definitely grown over time. The script in particular has been singled out for praise now that the dust of the initial disappointment and the lawsuit etc has settled far in the past.
wether you like glover or not, the fact is an actor (secondary role in this case) is not supposed to tell a director how to make his film.
What a shame. Who knows, the sequels could have been better than mediocre if Crispin was involved. He was essential to the first one's success.
The sequels were not mediocre, and your not a true BTTF fan for saying that. They were blessed by God and God used Zemeckis’s right hand to direct his will. God is good and so is BTTF trilogy. That is all for now..
Everyone is remembering Back to the Future, but a little known fact was how the producers screwed over Crispin Glover. They stole his likeness for the sequels, Crispin was only in the first movie. He also had a lot of trouble with the capitalist message of the film.
+Tracy Vanity Plus high intelligence, mental illness, and drugs.......
+Tracy Vanity Depends on who you believe. If he made the ridiculous demands that many claim he did (including asking that his salary match Michael J Fox's and that he get script approval for his character), he got what he deserved. And that was nothing. As far as the capitalistic message of the film, if that's what anyone gets out of it, they completely miss the point. The point was that he stopped being a victim and took control of his life. Money was one of the results of his change but was not the reason for his happiness.
He took control of his life, and he took some acid.
He crushed that movie. It had an amazing ensemble cast. The script was pretty much perfect.
I disagree about the ending. The real message was “if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything”. The family’s new lifestyle came out of George breaking free of his insecurities, actively pursuing his career as a writer and making a lucrative living off of it. I don’t think that’s a bad message at all.
I agree. If we think about it………….. The obvious clues that self confidence could change the McFly family’s future were there………….And I believe them to be very relevant
Firstly at the end of the movie, Lorraine is with George out of love and not pity because her dad hits George with a car. They weren’t in love in the first part of the film. Lorraine was not an alcoholic when Marty returns, George was visibly looking after himself and they had hobbies in common. That’s gotta do wonders for a person’s self confidence in itself.
The older siblings’ more successful professional lives can easily be explained by the encouragement they would have received by loving parents who were in love with each other.
Then there’s the bit when George explains he never let’s people see his science fiction stories for fear of rejection and being told they were no good. His newfound self-confidence took away that fear. He followed his dreams and those dreams were more lucrative when he had some success.
Before Marty goes back to 1955, Biff was actively still bullying George and was his supervisor at work. Having discovered in the 50s that his life didn’t have to be that way, there was no way that situation was going to be same when Marty returned to 1985. George had stood up to Biff and wasn’t going to be a doormat. Which meant Biff couldn’t use George anymore for his own gain. Therefore, it is likely that George would be doing better professionally. That does usually mean options to have nicer things.
Then the last clue before Marty returns, when Doc hears that George had never stood up to Biff in his life. Doc’s response there and then suggests that he’s expecting obvious differences to be there when Marty returns.
I don’t take the message from the movie that having love and self-confidence guarantees financial gain. But having self-confidence to follow your dreams could lead to those rewards.
In my younger days I had serious self-doubt, which prevented me from ever asking the ladies I fancied, to have a date etc. Then years later I found out that some of those ladies wanted me to ask them. But I always assumed they’d say no. To find that out when it was too late was crushing at the time lol. To find out what I could have achieved if I had had that little bit of self-belief has pushed me to come out of my shell and go for what I previously considered unobtainable. This I believe is what George did.
The message I take is “If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything” In other words don’t let yourself be defeated by yourself. Put yourself out there and there can be rewards.
Brilliant man
Crispin in River's Edge FTW!
Love this guy. Courage and talent.
He was just 20 to22 years old when he was already standing up for what he believes in. So much strength of character!
I remember seeing an interview with Flea of Red Hot Chili Peppers who played Needles in BTTF2 at the time when it came out. He called the movie a "multi-million dollar piece of trash". Still he accepted a nice chunk of money to appear in the film. This interview kind of reminds me of that.
He did the work
"Didn't you see in the end..." He performed that scene lol. He lived it.
I just got *We Don't Need Roads* _The Making Of The Back To The Future Trilogy_ and the author *Caseen Gaines* writes that the documents from the legal proceedings state that Crispin wanted a million dollars for part II, compared to the less than 60 thousand he got for the original. The book says that Crispin also demanded script and director approval. This was back in the late 80's and a million dollars would have been what a major A- list star like Michael J.Fox would have made. Perks like script and director approval are also something reserved for major A- list stars like Michael. The book really does make a case that Crispin was in fact acting like a diva and asking for things beyond what was acceptable for a actor of his minor stature. The book also has claims from many sources that Crispin was a pain to work with on the original. The book relates a few stories of Crispin's crazy behavior on set, including how they had to actually build a plywood barrier to box him in for one scene during the Eric Stoltz as Marty period because he wouldn't stay in the shot. Once Eric got fired and was replaced with Michael, Crispin got the message that if the lead actor could be fired so could a supporting actor. He tempered his theatrics, although there was the occasional friction.
xoxo ドリームマスター I think it's something in the middle. I think both are telling the truth as they see it and both are right and wrong. Crispin was obviously difficult to work with on the original and in negotiations for the sequel he did ask for things beyond what was appropriate for a minor actor as the film makers had claimed for years. Crispin might actually have mistakenly thought that Lea Thompson and Tom Wilson were getting a million dollars and he should too. Crispin probably did not realize that it was ridiculous for a supporting actor of minor stature to think they would get that much. The asking for for script and director approval was just ridiculous , diva behavior on Crispin's part, period. Crispin However, was justified in being upset with the film makers for making another actor up to look like and basically be him for the sequels and for taking legal action. The book says Michael J.Fox knew there would be trouble about this and said " Crispin isn't going to like this ".
+cisio64123 "a supporting actor of minor stature" All this other stuff aside, Crispin was not "a supporting actor of minor stature" in the first film.
+Joseph Scott Crispin was up and coming, but he was not very well known by the public until after he did the first film. Crispin was (and has always been) primarily a supporting actor. Crispin brought a lot to George, but he was not a star or a lead character. Crispin and Michael J. Fox worked together three times, and all three were with Michael as the lead with Crispin in a supporting role.
+Joseph Scott Yeah I totally agree with you on that. Without George McFly BTTF wouldn't have been the same and Crispin totally nailed his role as George.
Well said.