They have to use such high thrust because that runway is so short plus the air is usually hot which is a factor in how much thrust is needed and then yet all the residents gripe and complain about the noise 🙄. They want to live near the airport but not hear any noise. If this runway could be extended about 2000 feet they wouldn’t have to rocket out of there
The very best take off I've ever experienced out of SNA was a Southwest flight to OAK and I chose to sit in the very last row, co-pilot side window seat. I so enjoyed and loved the takeoff, it made you feel like you were in a rocket. I can't wait to travel out of SNA again. Richard/ California
noise abatement requirements....that is why they need full power to climb quick and level out...thank you for the video John Wayne is a great Airport...right about 7:07 in the video there is a square small body of water off the engine right above that is where my dad is resting. He was my Best Friend.......hope you had a great flight.....Awsome Video.......
Not to mention they also need full thrust because the air is hot and the runway is only about 5700 feet long. If they had 2000 more feet of runway they wouldn’t have to use so much thrust and therefore not as loud. Wealthy People move close to the airport for the convenience then complain about the noise 🥴
For university, Southwest was my form of transportation to San Jose every semester. Trust me, I experienced this a handful of times every year. It feels like a big sumo wrestler laying on you. Thank you for sharing this. I am glad Southwest still operates at this lovely airport.
Love the vid man. Great work...If you don't falcon punch the kid, I'll do it for you... too many events all happening at the same time. Full-power take off = Annoying 3 year old = Noise abatement procedures = Beautiful skies = Higher Fares = Newport Coast Property Values = Southwest Airlines Hospitality = Only in the OC
Easily the best recent sna takeoff video ive seen. Great spool up, got up quick and steep and great engine cutback. Gotta love sna takeoffs, its like a roller coaster launch lol. Lucky enough this is my home airport. Sorry about the screaming child.
Definitely a blast of a takeoff , (OMG, only around 20 seconds to "rotate"), with some guttural bass notes you don't hear that often. A+++, "YAA" !!! Go SWA !!!
@@YayAreaAviation Back in either 2004 or 2005, I flew on American from SNA to JFK - and holy shit, that takeoff was awesome thanks to the RB-211s their 757s had.
@@BlueLineAv : the problem is you're adding the qualifier "rated takeoff thrust" when the original comment was "full power." Those are two different things. Maximum RPM on the N1 rotor is 104% in overboost, and I've found several go-around clips where they actually used the full available power. This takeoff is around 99-100% if you do an audio analysis against a reference clip at a known RPM. Full "rated takeoff power," sure, but that's not the full power available.
Great video. Hands down my favorite airport: clean, easy in and out, awesome takeoff ascent, and great views (and almost always great weather to enjoy the show).
A noise-abatement take off from John Wayne airport. A little scary as they throttle back those engines until over the ocean. Also, a short runway there too. It always felt like we were in a little free-fall and just hanging there until going back to full power.
Love SNA....After the morning rush, after 9:AM....If you're an "A" list with Southwest, you can literally enter the airport get in"flyway" lane at the ticket counter, the fast lane at TSA walk to your gate and board in 10 minutes...I've done that dozens of times
I wonder what would happen if they had to abort a takeoff here. I know somesome recently who was flying out of DFW and they were well down the runway going quite fast and the pilot had to slam on the brakes. The plane had to towed and they had to get a new plane for theflght. Those runways are much longer so at SNA would they be crashing at the end of the runway?
A couple of weeks ago I was on a Southwest flight out of Baltimore where we had to ABORT the take-off because the plane could not get enough AIRSPEED to rotate. Thank God we were still on the ground when the brakes were applied. This is with a longer runway too, if we were off the ground, we might not have made it.
Aloha Airlines (before they went belly up) flew to HW from here, in 737's no less, I took them twice. Long haul in a 737, I bet the tank was on "E" when they landed
Not quite. I calculate around 97.75% on the N1 rotor based on some basic math, a simple frequency analysis, and sample clips with the engine gauges visible. Still, about as high as you're likely to see in normal service.
@@ErickC I followed the same process and got 97.71%... close enough. But then I realized how that doesn't account for RUclips's compression algorithm clipping the frequency response of the audio. Adjusting for that, plus any sunspots which may have been active that day, it does in fact work out to 100.00%. OP was correct, and in more ways than one: If you look closely at the instrument panel gauges, right next to the "100" it actually does say in tiny letters "full-ass power".
@@marcmcreynolds2827 : the compression would reduce the sample rate and you'd lose some high-end harmonics (see: Nyquist frequency), but that won't affect frequencies way down where I was measuring (there's always going to be some quantization noise, obviously, and any sample below 44.1KHz is probably going to have some of that noise in the audible range). Other ways it's probably compressing are a reduction in bit depth, but that's not going to affect any frequency response, it'll just affect the noise floor. It's entirely possible the playback rate may have been modified from the original recording, which would have a pitch-shifting effect (kind of like NTSC to PAL and vice-versa) but I doubt it. I've uploaded videos to RUclips and I've never had them play back at the wrong rate. 97% is also pretty consistent with most 737NG high-power or go-around videos. You raise a good point, though -how do we define "full-ass power?" Is 97% within the "full-ass power" band? Possibly. Probably. Is 97% of an ass basically an ass? Is 97% of a billion dollars still basically a billion dollars? You could probably drop 3% of an ass by shaving some hairs, so it's probably close enough.
@@ErickC > 97% of a billion dollars still basically a billion dollars? < If they're short the 3% because it was given to me... then Yes! Basically the same. *Exactly* the same.
5:35 so when the engine makes that different noise, does that mean the pilots reduced power because of the residental neighborhoods? Do they have to do that until they get over the ocean? 6:55 you can hear the engines throttle up again?
The city of Dana Point started also complaining about the noise for those routes that turn the other way. There was a proposal to fly a few miles over the ocean before continuing the climb to altitude before being allowed to turn around. Some airlines, & I think SWA was one of them, threatened to pull out of sna entirely if that was enacted.
Rich people: Let's move right next to an airport.
Also rich people: Let's get upset and complain because it's too loud.
That sure was an intense takeoff, I love the tiny bouncy prop that landed as soon as the engines spooled up!
What’s funny is that the prop bounced on the grass before it even reached the runway threshold! 😅 stall alert!
They have to use such high thrust because that runway is so short plus the air is usually hot which is a factor in how much thrust is needed and then yet all the residents gripe and complain about the noise 🙄. They want to live near the airport but not hear any noise. If this runway could be extended about 2000 feet they wouldn’t have to rocket out of there
The very best take off I've ever experienced out of SNA was a Southwest flight to OAK and I chose to sit in the very last row, co-pilot side window seat. I so enjoyed and loved the takeoff, it made you feel like you were in a rocket. I can't wait to travel out of SNA again.
Richard/ California
noise abatement requirements....that is why they need full power to climb quick and level out...thank you for the video John Wayne is a great Airport...right about 7:07 in the video there is a square small body of water off the engine right above that is where my dad is resting. He was my Best Friend.......hope you had a great flight.....Awsome Video.......
saw it guess that was the cemetery where your father was laid to rest.sorry for your loss praying for
Not to mention they also need full thrust because the air is hot and the runway is only about 5700 feet long. If they had 2000 more feet of runway they wouldn’t have to use so much thrust and therefore not as loud. Wealthy People move close to the airport for the convenience then complain about the noise 🥴
I feel your loss: My mom passed 30 years ago, and I still miss her so much. We will see them again!
For university, Southwest was my form of transportation to San Jose every semester. Trust me, I experienced this a handful of times every year. It feels like a big sumo wrestler laying on you.
Thank you for sharing this. I am glad Southwest still operates at this lovely airport.
Love the vid man. Great work...If you don't falcon punch the kid, I'll do it for you... too many events all happening at the same time. Full-power take off = Annoying 3 year old = Noise abatement procedures = Beautiful skies = Higher Fares = Newport Coast Property Values = Southwest Airlines Hospitality = Only in the OC
😂😂thank you man!
😂🤣🤣
Easily the best recent sna takeoff video ive seen. Great spool up, got up quick and steep and great engine cutback. Gotta love sna takeoffs, its like a roller coaster launch lol. Lucky enough this is my home airport. Sorry about the screaming child.
Looking back they got up so fast they couldve used 20L haha
Thank you! Will try to connect through there again for sure, yeah for an -800 was were up pretty fast
@@YayAreaAviation highly recommend getting the 757 to atl out of there. Thats a hell of a takeoff.
Definitely a blast of a takeoff , (OMG, only around 20 seconds to "rotate"), with some guttural bass notes you don't hear that often. A+++, "YAA" !!! Go SWA !!!
05:02 GA aircraft landing on the parallel rwy smashing into to he ground...
Yeeted right into that runway
Lol probably just Harrison Ford again landing on the taxiway. LMAO!
Went full flappy bird
You guys are so harsh! I only counted three bounces...
@@marcmcreynolds2827 bounce bounce roll skate
I’ve always wanted to take off out of john wayne because the full power takeoff, seems like fun lol.
Yeah the overhead contents did indeed in fact shift
It wasn't a full power takeoff. Close, though.
@@YayAreaAviation Back in either 2004 or 2005, I flew on American from SNA to JFK - and holy shit, that takeoff was awesome thanks to the RB-211s their 757s had.
@@ErickCtakeoffs from sna use full rated takeoff thrust max performance
@@BlueLineAv : the problem is you're adding the qualifier "rated takeoff thrust" when the original comment was "full power." Those are two different things.
Maximum RPM on the N1 rotor is 104% in overboost, and I've found several go-around clips where they actually used the full available power. This takeoff is around 99-100% if you do an audio analysis against a reference clip at a known RPM. Full "rated takeoff power," sure, but that's not the full power available.
Awesome video, will be flying with them next month! Thanks for sharing :)
Great video. Hands down my favorite airport: clean, easy in and out, awesome takeoff ascent, and great views (and almost always great weather to enjoy the show).
I can not believe no one is talking about this:
Look at the plane landing on the parallel runway at 5:00
It almost landed short 😩😭
It *did* land short. 20L ends where 20R does, and he bounced a good 20 feet or more short of that!
I have to admit, I burst out laughing when the little kid was yelling "Wee wee... wee wee wee... weeeeeee weeeeee!" 😂😂😂😂😂
Seeing the shadow disappear that fast gives you a feeling of the actual speed!! Wow!
I’ve been to that airport it’s really nice, always fly there to visit my grandparents...
That is my SNA! Love OC
A noise-abatement take off from John Wayne airport. A little scary as they throttle back those engines until over the ocean. Also, a short runway there too. It always felt like we were in a little free-fall and just hanging there until going back to full power.
5:02, student pilot!!!
20 second take-off roll, and reached thrust reduction altitude 35 seconds after commencing the take-off roll! 🚀
Love SNA....After the morning rush, after 9:AM....If you're an "A" list with Southwest, you can literally enter the airport get in"flyway" lane at the ticket counter, the fast lane at TSA walk to your gate and board in 10 minutes...I've done that dozens of times
wow wow wow!. What an insane takeoff.
I didn’t know a plane could slow down as rapidly as when landing at John Wayne
Another beautiful reduction! This time on the 737ng s
That pitch has got to be 20-25 percent lol that’s insane, must feel crazy taking off from there…plus that looks like shorter than Normal runway
Holy crap just about 20 seconds to V1 rotate.
I may be wrong but I thought V1 was the roll and V2 was rotate?
To whoever said "oh my god" I am with him, that kid sounded like she was posessed! Otherwise, wonderful engine sound and video! 🤩
5:35 Nice noise reduction!!!!
From quiet to loud.
I can almost feel the Gs just watching this!
how full was the flight
Good grief, check out bouncy there on 20L. Near as dammit hit the lights! 🤣
That was Harrison Ford's 3rd attempt after being waved off the first 2X's!
lol i was like 😳😳😳 you okay guy?! Holy sh*t that was close lol😂
I wonder what would happen if they had to abort a takeoff here. I know somesome recently who was flying out of DFW and they were well down the runway going quite fast and the pilot had to slam on the brakes. The plane had to towed and they had to get a new plane for theflght. Those runways are much longer so at SNA would they be crashing at the end of the runway?
A couple of weeks ago I was on a Southwest flight out of Baltimore where we had to ABORT the take-off because the plane could not get enough AIRSPEED to rotate. Thank God we were still on the ground when the brakes were applied. This is with a longer runway too, if we were off the ground, we might not have made it.
What does it mean to 'falcon punch'? Same as a 'sucker punch'? Headed out over the Pacific,might as well continue on to Hawaii! :)
Aloha Airlines (before they went belly up) flew to HW from here, in 737's no less, I took them twice. Long haul in a 737, I bet the tank was on "E" when they landed
Short runway so full takeoff power
I was in a 737-700 and the buzz was very louder
Holy hell they went full ass power. No buzzsaw
Full send brudder
Not quite. I calculate around 97.75% on the N1 rotor based on some basic math, a simple frequency analysis, and sample clips with the engine gauges visible. Still, about as high as you're likely to see in normal service.
@@ErickC I followed the same process and got 97.71%... close enough. But then I realized how that doesn't account for RUclips's compression algorithm clipping the frequency response of the audio. Adjusting for that, plus any sunspots which may have been active that day, it does in fact work out to 100.00%. OP was correct, and in more ways than one: If you look closely at the instrument panel gauges, right next to the "100" it actually does say in tiny letters "full-ass power".
@@marcmcreynolds2827 : the compression would reduce the sample rate and you'd lose some high-end harmonics (see: Nyquist frequency), but that won't affect frequencies way down where I was measuring (there's always going to be some quantization noise, obviously, and any sample below 44.1KHz is probably going to have some of that noise in the audible range). Other ways it's probably compressing are a reduction in bit depth, but that's not going to affect any frequency response, it'll just affect the noise floor.
It's entirely possible the playback rate may have been modified from the original recording, which would have a pitch-shifting effect (kind of like NTSC to PAL and vice-versa) but I doubt it. I've uploaded videos to RUclips and I've never had them play back at the wrong rate. 97% is also pretty consistent with most 737NG high-power or go-around videos.
You raise a good point, though -how do we define "full-ass power?" Is 97% within the "full-ass power" band? Possibly. Probably. Is 97% of an ass basically an ass? Is 97% of a billion dollars still basically a billion dollars? You could probably drop 3% of an ass by shaving some hairs, so it's probably close enough.
@@ErickC > 97% of a billion dollars still basically a billion dollars? < If they're short the 3% because it was given to me... then Yes! Basically the same. *Exactly* the same.
5:02 scary low approach by the GA plane coming into 20L
5:35 so when the engine makes that different noise, does that mean the pilots reduced power because of the residental neighborhoods? Do they have to do that until they get over the ocean? 6:55 you can hear the engines throttle up again?
Yup. A few years ago they were trying to change it so that they wouldn’t bring the engines back to full power until the plane was over the water.
They actually have to tell the passengers they are pulling the power back to 30% so they don’t freak out
Yea can’t piss off the rich folk
@@CARBONHAWK1 lmao
The city of Dana Point started also complaining about the noise for those routes that turn the other way. There was a proposal to fly a few miles over the ocean before continuing the climb to altitude before being allowed to turn around. Some airlines, & I think SWA was one of them, threatened to pull out of sna entirely if that was enacted.
20 seconds from spool up to rotation is very fast
5:01 that GA completely eating shit on the other runway
The one worry I have with SNA...Multi-Purpose airport as in GA and Commercial. To much going on with to many different levels of flying experience.
Boeing 737-800 = The Airbus A320's Arch-Rival From The USA
Airbus A320 = The Boeing 737-800's Arch-Rival From Europe
5000 rpm
All this so those rich houses seen in the vid can sip their coffee a little more peacefully.
Did you really Punch a kid?
No, violence is never the answer
@@YayAreaAviation , I know... Lol!
@@okell8319 ...unless they deserve it for messing up the quality of your videos LMFAOOOO
@@YayAreaAviation 😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
That looks like a max8
from the sound of it, it is not