I don't own or drive a GX, or own or drive any other vehicle that needs a suspension lift, but this video was so well put together, I could not help but to watch this sub-30 minute video end to end. For once RUclips actually recommended a video I enjoyed. Thanks guys for the hard work and effort you put in. Aloha🤙🤙
This was a much needed video.I applaud your efforts in creating a tutorial. A big part of me not moving forward on a suspension lift was the lack of info. This gives me the confidence to move forward with a purchase in the near future. I have the tools and now the knowledge. Where can I purchase the UCA?
AMAZING video! Love the way this guy goes through step by step, while keeping the video short. It's nice to see that he was being silly through the installation as well. Thank you guys for this!
Good tutorial, however, the one thing missing in this tutorial is the passenger side front strut. It isn't as easy as the driver front but if you use a floor jack to compress the driver side sway bar (underneath the kdss hydraulic cylinder), that would allow you more than enough room to remove and install the passenger strut.
@@yota22RE81 thank you! I had purchased new bushings anyways so it all worked out but it added hours of work, many swear words, and lots of post-wrench drinking. I had to use ratchet straps to get the bar aligned properly. This KDSS system is really a pain until you learn all the tricks. I appreciate the response a ton and your original post. It got me on the right track.
I've Been looking into this system for my 2016 460 build. I've done all of my suspension builds in my garage on all of my past trucks, Countles Rovers, FJ Cruiser, and 4Runner. I've ran Icon, Toytec, and OME. But I'm leaning towards Ironman this time around. But the Air suspension on my 2016 GX Luxury has me a bit baffled. I'm worried about having lights triggered on the dash after removing the OE suspension. Have you guys got adequate information on a step by step for us folks that have the AHC (automatic height control system)? I'm ready to make the move to Ironman because I believe it's going to work well for the type of desert running I do. I know there are too many questions to reply in this format so I'll probably give you guys a call next week. Your video tutorial of this install was spot on. Great job, to the point, covered all the bases, no dickin' around, Just a great professional production. Jeff
Great job at thoroughly explaining what to do step by step! It's appreciated. Is this suspension a lift kit or is this just to upgrade the suspension components?
That was probably the best how to video ever. Perfect combination of tips and even addresses common obstacles before they happen. Outstanding can’t wait to put mine in.
Awesome video! Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but I am I assuming you don't actually have to or need to de-pressurize and pressurize the KDSS System to do this job correct? I know that requires a very expensive special tool that only the dealerships and select shops have.
Thanks for all the instructions, you made it on floor like most DIYERS, the kdss valves were not explained on most videos, i own a prado 150 high specs, its pretty much the same car. Thanks bro.
Great video, I was lazy at first and didn’t read all the comments so be sure to do that. 1. Ironman Customer service is top notch, when in doubt just call them 2. Ditto pax front…Jack the driver side to lower pax side or it will fight you 3. Rear shocks come with two extra washers each side, I didn’t need them, verified by customer service. They are there to take up play on bottom mount if needed mine was perfect as is 4) spray your bolts with penetrating oil. If anything seems tight take steps to heat if possible to avoid shearing bolts. I sheared a rear sway bar bolt. This added a half day to the schedule and two trips to the store…wasn’t able to extract after heating multiple times and drilling out and trying extractors. Ended up drilling out and re-tapping. It’s M10x1.25 in case it happens to you, hole size 11/32” or 8.5mm (I think but check yourself) 5) rear pax top shock access is smaller than driver side on my 2015 gx. I opened the access area up a bit with a small cut off wheel/ bending. 6) great wrenches help immensely, def have those 7) for rear shocks, the balancing act as you see in the video is a pain. I found it way easier to use a bungee to hold it up, going through bottom shock hole to the bump stop. Takes a couple tries to get height right but made it super easy 8) pax UCA bolt gets held up on lines in the engine bay, just heads up you might have to fanangle it. I used a pet pry Bar and my hand to move it correctly out. To get back in it was not needed 9) new Panard bar if equipped - be sure to lift the rear and to unload it, will help Versus fighting it. Also ensure the little bends are in right orientation to allow sway bar mount enough clearance. 10) use taller Jack stands , my smaller ones worked but had to use wood to increase height
Nice work bro I just bought a 19 GX and traded a 18 lifted TRD off-road Tacoma and I live in Oregon I’d love if mine looked like that with BFGoodrich k02
Great video Ironman America! I noticed your 460 had rear coils and no AVS. Are these options for the different trim levels of 460? I have an '07 sport 470 with AVS and rear airbags stock (honestly part of the reason I'm stalling on a suspension swap. The autolevelling is amazing plus the add 1.6" lift even when loaded, I also appreciate the AVS' adjustability for different conditions). As above I've been "shopping" lift options. I've shelved the yellows for various reasons not exclusive to ride quality and quite interested in the teals, especially at their price point, however I think I'm sold on the foam cell pros for various reasons. Your kit comes with the UCAs whish is a great upgrade with a 2" lift. Are they adjustable ball joint placement or fixed ball joint but positioned to account for lift and precise alignment? The meatiness of the shocks are a total selling point when compared to Bil and even Dob's. Thanks again and keep the vidz coming on the 460 family build? It's largely mirroring mine as I already have the rack and awaning and the "take it out and get familiar with your rig stock, and what it can do" is well underway. Keep up the great work and videos! *EDIT* I just answered my own control arm question by watching the video. ;) 👍 ruclips.net/video/luamOI2CQ1s/видео.html
Excellent! Short. Concise. Sans the "diarrhea of the mouth" that is so prevalent in other videos. Thank you! Now, how about a how-to video for others on how to do a how-to video.
Great video! Installed my rears on my 4runner today and would like to add that a small 6mm open ended wrench works much better at holding the top of the strut vs the vise grips.
I went on their site, I like the fact that they have the less expensive option and the whole package more expensive option. I am on the lower end of the budget, my air bags just failed on my GX 470, so I will be climbing under it to see what I have to do to fix it.
I am looking at the Nitro kit for my GX470 without KDSS. I would like to do standard load front and back . Does anyone know what kind of ride to expect. I love the stock ride, but I know you'll lose that. Just want to see what to expect. Also wondering what amount of lift people have seen with the Nitro kit. I would like 2 to maybe 2.5 inches of lift.
Yes, currently installing the fronts. Quite more work than anticipated. Would love to know about the rear regarding air suspension with the FCP kit if anyone has done it yet!
The process is virtually the same with all of the Prado 120/150 based vehicles, (FJ Cruiser, 2003+ 4Runner, GX470, GX460. Deleting the airbags would be the only big difference between the vehicles.
@@Ironman4x4America The video was great. This guy is a TBA and a great salesmen. I hope he's paid well. I have a 2013 GX 460 Premium build underway. Do you guys have a video or instructions for deleting the airbags (including any electronic disconnects)? Also, is it necessary to delete them (I assume yes, but double checking)? Also, I see you have an air bag delete kit. Is this deletion kit necessary as an addition to the Ironman lift package? I've also heard one would want to limit lift to 2 - 2.5" inches where KDSS is present. Do you agree? My goal is to get 285/75 r17s on the vehicle. If this goal is ill-advised, please let me know. I'm excited to install your kit.
Great question! Out of the big Australian brands, we are the only one that is still family-owned and operated. Our beginnings were in suspension, unlike the others. The Foam Cell Pros are simply a great performing product that is strong and reliable without the expensive $$$ and high maintenance. Here is a good video explaining the suspension. ruclips.net/video/GfGAx600T9s/видео.html
Hi Trevor, The Foam Cell Pro coil-overs are adjustable for 2 to 3" of lift in the front. We have a great spec sheet with exact measurements to get you started. If you would like a copy of the PDF simply email us at info@ironman4x4america.com and we would be happy to send it to you. Thanks!
Hey mate Appreciate your videos. Just purchased a foam cell pro kit for my 2019 150 Prado and installed the front struts and rear coil springs. I have two questions for you if I may. Firstly does the washer stacking on the rear shock apply to all the vehicles? I know my Prado does not a have flanged washer on the top side from factory. Secondly the foam cell pro front shock has a much narrower bottom bush than the factory shock. Does iron man install washers inbetween the bush and lower control arm mount to take up the additional clearance. There was nothing in the instructions or fitting kit to suggest that you do. Thanks again.
Hello, We do not get the Toyota Prado here in North America. I would reach out to your local Ironman4x4 distributor for any inquiries about fitment with that vehicle. Here is the Australia website where you can find contact info for any distributor globally. ironman4x4.com/contact Hope this helps!
So didn’t knew the spindle and wheel assembly are not supposed to hang all the way out. I did the install before watching this, can you help me how to diagnose for any issues if I messed anything up?
Be sure to inspect your ABS and brake lines for any signs of damage, also make sure your CV's are good to go. You can always have a mechanic inspect everything if you are concerned. Hope this helps!
do you absolutely have to put the other parts on the kdss system on as well or could you get away with backing out the shudder valve bolts two full revolutions and then just taking care of the rest of the rear and tighten them back up when your done?? any thing will help thank you:)
The stock panhard bar will contact the KDSS bracket bolt and make an annoying clunk. Having the KDSS compatible rear panhard bar and spacers help with clearance when you lift a KDSS equipped vehicle eliminating the contact.
Great job. I like your enthusiasm and professionalism. I'm considering purchasing a rig for serious overland use. I'm looking at the lexus line. Any recommendations?. Thank you for sharing.
Can't go wrong with either the LX or the GX, just depends on how big of vehicle you need and what you plan on doing with it. Lots out there to choose from.
The KDSS spacers, 1220K kit, comes with some printed instructions and is very straightforward to install. We do not have a video covering this because the paper instructions cover it.
Good instructions and setting of KDSS system is one of the areas I missed out and hence car now is lean on driver's side. I will then balance it by opening the valve at a flat surface to enable car level out. Cheers brother
This is the kind of service you should get when buying $5k suspension system. Unfortunately nobody else does them this nicely. Good job guys, you are setting the standard of what good customer service and support looks like!
There are instructions included with the UCA's in the box. There is not a PDF of the suspension install, simply do the reverse of taking off the stock shocks and struts, and follow the steps in the video.
Thanks for the awesome video! Any reason why you disconnect the rear sway bay at the axle rather than disconnecting them up top around the kdss piston?
I would be curious to see how you lined up the lower shock bolt with the upper installed, I tried that and could not get it aligned. Had to install the bottom first and since the foam cell shocks have no internal pressure it took some work to get the shaft extended up into the frame. Got it done though!
Even with releasing the accumulator bolts, jacking up the driver side, and levering with a burke bar, I can’t get the bottom of my front passenger coil into its seat. Im stuck. Would a coil compressor help?
Use some PB blaster or Kroil penetrant and let it soak for a couple of days, heat can also help. Make sure to use anti-seize when you install the new ones to prevent this from happening.
At full droop the stock UCA's will hit the FCP coil overs. With any lift over 2" you will need UCA's to help with caster alignment and clearing bigger tires.
I have a Lexus GX470 and i purchased the Stage 2 Suspension Kit. I searched high and low on your website for the KDSS disengagement Instructions but cannot find it. Please provide guidance in locating these instructions on your website. Thank you.
Don't rush it, take your time. It can be done in 4 hours if you've done this a bunch otherwise give it the day to complete. Being thorough with a quality install is more important than being fast on an install.
The video was great. This guy is a TBA and a great salesmen. I hope he's paid well. I have a 2013 GX 460 Premium build underway. Do you guys have a video or instructions for deleting the airbags (including any electronic disconnects)? Also, is it necessary to delete them (I assume yes, but double checking)? Also, I see you have an air bag delete kit. Is this deletion kit necessary as an addition to the Ironman lift package? I've also heard one would want to limit lift to 2 - 2.5" inches where KDSS is present. Do you agree? My goal is to get 285/75 r17s on the vehicle. If this goal is ill-advised, please let me know. I'm excited to install your kit.
Just did this today. This video is immensely helpful. But, even backing the KDSS shutter valves 2 turns, the KDSS was a nightmare. Couldn't get the LCA low enough to install the coilover. Had to disconnect the swaybar from the LCA, then spent 2 hours fighting it to get it back on. Jacking up the swaybar underneath the hydraulic ram was the key.
@@jacquesrondeau5388 it took me a good 6-7 hours to get the front installed, due to the KDSS. The rear was much easier, maybe 3 hours. Did it over the span of a weekend
@@Ironman4x4America I had trouble with both passenger sides. I had to drop the sway bar in the front too and that was a headache getting back in. I also used a spring compressor on the rear passenger because once the driver is installed the car starts to lift when you jack the other side up. Not a huge deal but I think it would help to see both sides.
Besides the need for extra lighting this is by far the best instructional video I’ve seen! You actually say what freaking tools to use. I never understand when someone takes time to show others how to do something and doesn’t say what freaking tools they used. Now only if I could convince the wife we need to lift the GX... anyone got any ideas?
Great vid! Does the KDSS (on KDSS equipped GX)becomes completely disengaged permanently after the kit is installed? If I need to eventually change the LCA to OEM will it matter if LCA is for KDSS or not? Thanks!
It depends, what vehicle, KDSS or not, XREAS or not, rusty bolts, DIY or pro mechanic, vehicle lift or on the ground, single person or a team, vehicle weight to adjust ride height, lean correction, etc... Ballpark, 4-24 hours based on all of the variables mentioned. Plus factor in an alignment after. An experienced shop with the exact vehicle in basic configuration can do it in 4-5 hours then alignment on top, so 6 billable. But complications like KDSS, XREAS, rust, can add time.
All done. 10 hours doing this solo in my garage - going slowly and methodically. Had one question that was solved with a quick phone call to Ironman. This is the 4th vehicle I have lifted. No others have transformed the ride quality as dramatically as this one - all in positive ways. The truck is PLANTED, but not harsh. Braking is SOLID, with 90% less Nose Dive. Can't wait to hit the trail.
@@Ironman4x4America yes, I got the UCAs. My question was about the order of install. On the video, it was done separately and I was wondering if I should go ahead and replace the UCA while I have the shocks out? On the video the shocks are replaced and then UCAs (but there is a space question and extra care with the new shocks).
@@Ironman4x4America I have installed the lift on my Gx460, thank you for the video. It was very helpful, but I do have one comment. Please include a note (after the driver's front install section) saying that the front passenger side will require removing the skid plate, unbolting the sway-bar on the passenger side (you don't have to remove it), and jack the cylinder (driver's front side) to make sure the lower control arm on the passenger side drops so you can install the shock. I spent probably 2hrs trying to remove the original shock, then trying to install the new one...I had to stop the work and finish the next day (after researching the problem). Your video is great and very helpful, if you include the note above on a black screen it will be perfect! (you can see it here: instagram.com/p/CJBgIkhHBc1/?fbclid=IwAR36hj_h_vbXWw_eG38bT5yhaOmbxcOpRbk8oCGN1rKkaklaNMfTGv_haKQ). Just quick editing with the note will resolve it. If someone isn't sure they will at least be aware and it will prompt them to do the research.
Our shocks will work with up to 3" of lift on those trucks. If you are lifted more than that you could use 80 Series 4" shocks. They will be valved firmer for the larger vehicle.
Do you need all 4 jack stands if you DON'T have KDSS? In other words, w/o KDSS, can I install these with 2 jack stands by doing the front jacked up, then lower it down and move to the back jacked up? Curious because I just watched your install video on the Tacoma and you only used 2 stands. I realize Tacos have leafs in the back but didn't know if it mattered. I still have to buy my jack stands and wondering if I need to buy 2 or 4 for my 4th Gen 4Runner. Thanks!
Hi John, yes with no KDSS you can get by with just 2 jack stands. I recommend the taller 6 -ton stands over the shorter 3-ton stands. It really makes a big difference having a bit more room under the vehicle!
KDSS isn't disabled in 4Lo. It functions hydraulically based on cross corner and same axle suspension travel (which typically corresponds to high vs low speed and on vs off road.) in 4Lo and off road, same axle would experience differing articulation (e.g. dr front wheel up, pass front wheel down) this allows the hydraulics to flow front and rear or side-side such that the lifted wheel will help push down the drooping wheel. So it's not "disconnecting" the sway bar, but adding articulation AND traction by forcing the drooping wheel down rather than spring alone. KDSS maintains function as a fixed sway bar when both wheels on same axle travel in the same direction (like on road), thus letting that massively fat sway bar act like a performance sway bar giving much better on road handling, and keeping the body flatter from rolling in turns at speed...
I’m working on my install now and I’m assuming my KDSS didn’t fully release because I had to use a pry bar to move the LCA down enough to get the driver’s side front coil over into place. My UCA ball joint is not aligning so I can place my castle nut. This has been an epic pain. Should I just close the KDSS valves and restart the process? I’m at a loss here. Thanks!
Even with the valves open, it will still be a challenge. If you need help please reach out to our tech support team and they can get you dialed. 971-264-9016
@@Ironman4x4America You made it look so easy! Haha. Great video and thank you. This has been a job for sure but your video is excellent. I did take the advice of another poster about disconnecting the passenger side front sway bar as that LCA does budge one bit. You guys are amazing as always.
I don't own or drive a GX, or own or drive any other vehicle that needs a suspension lift, but this video was so well put together, I could not help but to watch this sub-30 minute video end to end. For once RUclips actually recommended a video I enjoyed. Thanks guys for the hard work and effort you put in. Aloha🤙🤙
Thank you! Holler if you ever need anything.
Ok this is the nicest install tutorial I've ever seen. Wow.
Thank you, glad you liked it!
@@Ironman4x4America I like your teachers are teaching me more about it
@@udechielijah7820 Happy to help!
You guys are doing some awesome videos that no one else does! 👍🏼
Watched many videos and you are the only one who adjusted KDSS before starting work. Thanks for the tip!
This was a much needed video.I applaud your efforts in creating a tutorial. A big part of me not moving forward on a suspension lift was the lack of info. This gives me the confidence to move forward with a purchase in the near future. I have the tools and now the knowledge. Where can I purchase the UCA?
UCA can be ironman4x4america.com/toyota-2003-4runner-fj-cruiser-2005-tacoma-lexus-gx470-gx460-pro-forge-upper-control-arms/
Great video! Just installed the Ironman stage 2 on my 2017 gx460.
AMAZING video! Love the way this guy goes through step by step, while keeping the video short. It's nice to see that he was being silly through the installation as well. Thank you guys for this!
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful.
Good tutorial, however, the one thing missing in this tutorial is the passenger side front strut. It isn't as easy as the driver front but if you use a floor jack to compress the driver side sway bar (underneath the kdss hydraulic cylinder), that would allow you more than enough room to remove and install the passenger strut.
Did you d/c the sway bar at the LCA or the next more central mount? Thank you
@@LT.BrianM no, didn't need to d/c the sway bar, that'll be extra work that's not necessary.
@@yota22RE81 thank you! I had purchased new bushings anyways so it all worked out but it added hours of work, many swear words, and lots of post-wrench drinking. I had to use ratchet straps to get the bar aligned properly. This KDSS system is really a pain until you learn all the tricks. I appreciate the response a ton and your original post. It got me on the right track.
@@LT.BrianM I agree, kdss is a PAIN! But once you understand it, it's pretty simple BUT having the right tools helps get the job done.
Your tip saved me. I couldn't figure out how to push down the control arm.
I've Been looking into this system for my 2016 460 build. I've done all of my suspension builds in my garage on all of my past trucks, Countles Rovers, FJ Cruiser, and 4Runner. I've ran Icon, Toytec, and OME. But I'm leaning towards Ironman this time around. But the Air suspension on my 2016 GX Luxury has me a bit baffled. I'm worried about having lights triggered on the dash after removing the OE suspension. Have you guys got adequate information on a step by step for us folks that have the AHC (automatic height control system)? I'm ready to make the move to Ironman because I believe it's going to work well for the type of desert running I do. I know there are too many questions to reply in this format so I'll probably give you guys a call next week. Your video tutorial of this install was spot on. Great job, to the point, covered all the bases, no dickin' around, Just a great professional production. Jeff
I have 2015 GX 460 Lux with air suspension. I hope we get a reply for GX 460 with rear air suspension.
You want the best? King all the way!
I just completed my front left corner. Wow, this video makes it easier. These Ironman shocks are absolute beasts. Ok, back to it.
Installed on my 2007 GX470... can't wait to to out.... pray for this Corona Virus gone soon.
Great job at thoroughly explaining what to do step by step! It's appreciated.
Is this suspension a lift kit or is this just to upgrade the suspension components?
That was probably the best how to video ever. Perfect combination of tips and even addresses common obstacles before they happen. Outstanding can’t wait to put mine in.
Please do a 470 with air to coil conversion... I gotts install your stage 3 tomorrow! 😁😁
No before and after shots to show difference? You're killing me!
Sameeee. I was dying to see that
Made in China 👀
Saw this when posting. Thanks for let down alert.
Serioussssslyyyyyyyy... How do you forget to do this?!?!?!?
Just curious. Is 135 foot lbs for the lower shock bolt too much torque? Should we stay on 70ish foot lbs per factory specs?
Awesome video! Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but I am I assuming you don't actually have to or need to de-pressurize and pressurize the KDSS System to do this job correct? I know that requires a very expensive special tool that only the dealerships and select shops have.
You do not want to de-pressurize the system during the install. Please call our Customer Service team with further questions.
Thanks for all the instructions, you made it on floor like most DIYERS, the kdss valves were not explained on most videos, i own a prado 150 high specs, its pretty much the same car. Thanks bro.
Hello! What kit would work for a 2019 4runner TRD ORP with KDSS? Thank you!
Awesome vid, but I think you mix up Nm for Ft Lbs on the lower strut/shock bolts. 135 Ft lbs and 96 Ft lbs are too much for those bolts.
Thank you for the feedback!
Great video, I was lazy at first and didn’t read all the comments so be sure to do that.
1. Ironman Customer service is top notch, when in doubt just call them
2. Ditto pax front…Jack the driver side to lower pax side or it will fight you
3. Rear shocks come with two extra washers each side, I didn’t need them, verified by customer service. They are there to take up play on bottom mount if needed mine was perfect as is
4) spray your bolts with penetrating oil. If anything seems tight take steps to heat if possible to avoid shearing bolts. I sheared a rear sway bar bolt. This added a half day to the schedule and two trips to the store…wasn’t able to extract after heating multiple times and drilling out and trying extractors. Ended up drilling out and re-tapping. It’s M10x1.25 in case it happens to you, hole size 11/32” or 8.5mm (I think but check yourself)
5) rear pax top shock access is smaller than driver side on my 2015 gx. I opened the access area up a bit with a small cut off wheel/ bending.
6) great wrenches help immensely, def have those
7) for rear shocks, the balancing act as you see in the video is a pain. I found it way easier to use a bungee to hold it up, going through bottom shock hole to the bump stop. Takes a couple tries to get height right but made it super easy
8) pax UCA bolt gets held up on lines in the engine bay, just heads up you might have to fanangle it. I used a pet pry Bar and my hand to move it correctly out. To get back in it was not needed
9) new Panard bar if equipped - be sure to lift the rear and to unload it, will help Versus fighting it. Also ensure the little bends are in right orientation to allow sway bar mount enough clearance.
10) use taller Jack stands , my smaller ones worked but had to use wood to increase height
Excellent video for the do-it-yourselfer. I subscribed.
wow the amount of effort demonstrating. I am saving this video for my future GX460.
Nice work bro I just bought a 19 GX and traded a 18 lifted TRD off-road Tacoma and I live in Oregon I’d love if mine looked like that with BFGoodrich k02
Great video Ironman America!
I noticed your 460 had rear coils and no AVS. Are these options for the different trim levels of 460? I have an '07 sport 470 with AVS and rear airbags stock (honestly part of the reason I'm stalling on a suspension swap. The autolevelling is amazing plus the add 1.6" lift even when loaded, I also appreciate the AVS' adjustability for different conditions).
As above I've been "shopping" lift options. I've shelved the yellows for various reasons not exclusive to ride quality and quite interested in the teals, especially at their price point, however I think I'm sold on the foam cell pros for various reasons. Your kit comes with the UCAs whish is a great upgrade with a 2" lift. Are they adjustable ball joint placement or fixed ball joint but positioned to account for lift and precise alignment?
The meatiness of the shocks are a total selling point when compared to Bil and even Dob's.
Thanks again and keep the vidz coming on the 460 family build?
It's largely mirroring mine as I already have the rack and awaning and the "take it out and get familiar with your rig stock, and what it can do" is well underway.
Keep up the great work and videos!
*EDIT*
I just answered my own control arm question by watching the video. ;) 👍
ruclips.net/video/luamOI2CQ1s/видео.html
I believe the Luxury trim levels of the GX460 all have the rear airbags. The Base and Premium trims did not unless it was a dealer-installed option.
Excellent! Short. Concise. Sans the "diarrhea of the mouth" that is so prevalent in other videos. Thank you! Now, how about a how-to video for others on how to do a how-to video.
Great video! Installed my rears on my 4runner today and would like to add that a small 6mm open ended wrench works much better at holding the top of the strut vs the vise grips.
I went on their site, I like the fact that they have the less expensive option and the whole package more expensive option. I am on the lower end of the budget, my air bags just failed on my GX 470, so I will be climbing under it to see what I have to do to fix it.
I am looking at the Nitro kit for my GX470 without KDSS. I would like to do standard load front and back . Does anyone know what kind of ride to expect. I love the stock ride, but I know you'll lose that. Just want to see what to expect. Also wondering what amount of lift people have seen with the Nitro kit. I would like 2 to maybe 2.5 inches of lift.
Thanks for the video. Played it over and over while installing. The 470 was a little more work but made it through. 👍
Did yours have the air suspension? I haven’t found a tutorial video yet that deals with the rear air removal when installing a lift
Yes, currently installing the fronts. Quite more work than anticipated. Would love to know about the rear regarding air suspension with the FCP kit if anyone has done it yet!
Is the rear disassembly the same with the GX460 with rear air suspension? Thanks for the videos!
The process is virtually the same with all of the Prado 120/150 based vehicles, (FJ Cruiser, 2003+ 4Runner, GX470, GX460. Deleting the airbags would be the only big difference between the vehicles.
@@Ironman4x4America The video was great. This guy is a TBA and a great salesmen. I hope he's paid well. I have a 2013 GX 460 Premium build underway. Do you guys have a video or instructions for deleting the airbags (including any electronic disconnects)? Also, is it necessary to delete them (I assume yes, but double checking)? Also, I see you have an air bag delete kit. Is this deletion kit necessary as an addition to the Ironman lift package? I've also heard one would want to limit lift to 2 - 2.5" inches where KDSS is present. Do you agree? My goal is to get 285/75 r17s on the vehicle. If this goal is ill-advised, please let me know. I'm excited to install your kit.
Thank you, Professor! I've tried to learn more about the vehicle and you've been a great helper.
Tell me why I should go Ironman versus the other brands ("yellow" and "teal"): GO! I'm getting close to decision time 😬
I actually had this same question. I hope we get a reply.
Great question! Out of the big Australian brands, we are the only one that is still family-owned and operated. Our beginnings were in suspension, unlike the others. The Foam Cell Pros are simply a great performing product that is strong and reliable without the expensive $$$ and high maintenance. Here is a good video explaining the suspension. ruclips.net/video/GfGAx600T9s/видео.html
Same
Yellow rides rough as hell unless you spend 3k and teal has a high failure rate even with the high end.
Awesome! What about the adjustment of the front shocks for lift?
Hi Trevor, The Foam Cell Pro coil-overs are adjustable for 2 to 3" of lift in the front. We have a great spec sheet with exact measurements to get you started. If you would like a copy of the PDF simply email us at info@ironman4x4america.com and we would be happy to send it to you. Thanks!
Hey do you guys to installs in your Oregon location?
We sure do! Contact customer service and book your appointment today!
Awesome video. I just picked up a 2017 gx460. I need to order this kit!
Great instructional video but damn show us what it looks like lifted!!!!
Hey mate
Appreciate your videos. Just purchased a foam cell pro kit for my 2019 150 Prado and installed the front struts and rear coil springs. I have two questions for you if I may. Firstly does the washer stacking on the rear shock apply to all the vehicles? I know my Prado does not a have flanged washer on the top side from factory. Secondly the foam cell pro front shock has a much narrower bottom bush than the factory shock. Does iron man install washers inbetween the bush and lower control arm mount to take up the additional clearance. There was nothing in the instructions or fitting kit to suggest that you do.
Thanks again.
Hello, We do not get the Toyota Prado here in North America. I would reach out to your local Ironman4x4 distributor for any inquiries about fitment with that vehicle. Here is the Australia website where you can find contact info for any distributor globally. ironman4x4.com/contact Hope this helps!
Dude, your "radius" reference should be Convex, you will sound even smarter! Looking to install Stage I on my LX470.
Thanks, enjoy!
So didn’t knew the spindle and wheel assembly are not supposed to hang all the way out.
I did the install before watching this, can you help me how to diagnose for any issues if I messed anything up?
Be sure to inspect your ABS and brake lines for any signs of damage, also make sure your CV's are good to go. You can always have a mechanic inspect everything if you are concerned. Hope this helps!
do you absolutely have to put the other parts on the kdss system on as well or could you get away with backing out the shudder valve bolts two full revolutions and then just taking care of the rest of the rear and tighten them back up when your done?? any thing will help thank you:)
The stock panhard bar will contact the KDSS bracket bolt and make an annoying clunk. Having the KDSS compatible rear panhard bar and spacers help with clearance when you lift a KDSS equipped vehicle eliminating the contact.
Great job. I like your enthusiasm and professionalism. I'm considering purchasing a rig for serious overland use. I'm looking at the lexus line. Any recommendations?. Thank you for sharing.
Can't go wrong with either the LX or the GX, just depends on how big of vehicle you need and what you plan on doing with it. Lots out there to choose from.
Is there a diff drop kit for the GX? Is this something compatible with the one available for the fj- 4runner?
There sure is. Here you go: ironman4x4america.com/differential-drop-spacer-kit-for-lexus-gx460-gx470/
where is all the rust, stuck bolts, stripped bolt heads?
This is an awesome video, thank you. Is there a separate video that covers the install of the KDSS spacers?
The KDSS spacers, 1220K kit, comes with some printed instructions and is very straightforward to install. We do not have a video covering this because the paper instructions cover it.
Great instructional video! So helpful I swear I can do this work myself now. :D Thank you so much.
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful!
Awesome video. You made it look doable for someone like me.
Always looks easy on a newer clean vehicle.....it's the rust on older vehicles thats the killer
Good instructions and setting of KDSS system is one of the areas I missed out and hence car now is lean on driver's side. I will then balance it by opening the valve at a flat surface to enable car level out. Cheers brother
Happy to help, enjoy!
This is the kind of service you should get when buying $5k suspension system. Unfortunately nobody else does them this nicely. Good job guys, you are setting the standard of what good customer service and support looks like!
Thank you for the kind words and for your business!
What size lift is this? 3 inch? Thx!
2.5-3" available
Hi with gx460 do you need to pull any fuses to remove the High, low or normal symbols on your dash?
No, simply disconnect the air compressor unit and you should not have any dash lights.
Great video. Is there a link to the pdf instructions to print out that you mention? I just bought a kit and can’t find them on the site.
There are instructions included with the UCA's in the box. There is not a PDF of the suspension install, simply do the reverse of taking off the stock shocks and struts, and follow the steps in the video.
Thanks for the awesome video! Any reason why you disconnect the rear sway bay at the axle rather than disconnecting them up top around the kdss piston?
No real preference, either would work. We find that at the axel can be easier to re-connect with the lift installed.
I just bought a 2018 GX and can’t wait to start my build. Let the saving money begin!
Reach out to our customer service team if you ever have any questions, 971-264-9016
I didn't see you do the panhard bar. So is that an optional mod when you are doing the back?
If you need any rear track adjustment after lifting then the adjustable panhard bar is a great solution for that.
So clever and just want more videos from you!!!
Tried using the link and it doesn't work.
I would be curious to see how you lined up the lower shock bolt with the upper installed, I tried that and could not get it aligned. Had to install the bottom first and since the foam cell shocks have no internal pressure it took some work to get the shaft extended up into the frame. Got it done though!
Great detailed video. Where was this when I lifted my KDSS 4Runner?
Thank you!
Even with releasing the accumulator bolts, jacking up the driver side, and levering with a burke bar, I can’t get the bottom of my front passenger coil into its seat. Im stuck. Would a coil compressor help?
My castlenut won't budge. Can I just sawzall the entire thing off since my ironman kit comes with UCA?
Use some PB blaster or Kroil penetrant and let it soak for a couple of days, heat can also help. Make sure to use anti-seize when you install the new ones to prevent this from happening.
Are aftermarket UCAs a required mod to fit the FCP front coilovers?
At full droop the stock UCA's will hit the FCP coil overs. With any lift over 2" you will need UCA's to help with caster alignment and clearing bigger tires.
wouldn't you need a wheel alignment done right after? It wasn't mentioned.
Yes plan to have an alignment done after the suspension install.
Is the tool list also applicable for a 2009 Toyota FJ Cruiser? Do you have a separate list of necessary tools that is specific to that make and model?
Yes, the tool list will be nearly identical. The FJ Cruiser is based on the Prado platform just like the 4runner and GX so the suspension is the same.
@@Ironman4x4America Thanks! And what tool(s) is used for adjusting the height of the front coil overs?
Awsome
Will this be available in Australia?
Yes this is all available in Australia for your Prado 120 or Prado 150.
Awesome
I have a Lexus GX470 and i purchased the Stage 2 Suspension Kit. I searched high and low on your website for the KDSS disengagement Instructions but cannot find it. Please provide guidance in locating these instructions on your website. Thank you.
Doing this, this weekend. My help had to back out. Am I crazy to attempt this solo? Also, how long should it take me?
Don't rush it, take your time. It can be done in 4 hours if you've done this a bunch otherwise give it the day to complete. Being thorough with a quality install is more important than being fast on an install.
Took me 5 hours. Came out great! Got it aligned and love the ride. I have a question about caster adjustment. I'll be calling next week.
The video was great. This guy is a TBA and a great salesmen. I hope he's paid well. I have a 2013 GX 460 Premium build underway. Do you guys have a video or instructions for deleting the airbags (including any electronic disconnects)? Also, is it necessary to delete them (I assume yes, but double checking)? Also, I see you have an air bag delete kit. Is this deletion kit necessary as an addition to the Ironman lift package? I've also heard one would want to limit lift to 2 - 2.5" inches where KDSS is present. Do you agree? My goal is to get 285/75 r17s on the vehicle. If this goal is ill-advised, please let me know. I'm excited to install your kit.
Impressive great job man
Are the UCAs required if I don’t want any lift
If you are not lifting your vehicle then the UCA's are not needed.
I bet the full install was like 2 hrs. He makes it look so easy.
Typically the install is about 5-6 hours depending.
would like to know if this setup clears 33.34.35's
Just the lift itself 33 yes 35 no. 35 will work with a lot of trimming to the front bumper and cutting and bending the pinch welds.
Just did this today. This video is immensely helpful. But, even backing the KDSS shutter valves 2 turns, the KDSS was a nightmare. Couldn't get the LCA low enough to install the coilover. Had to disconnect the swaybar from the LCA, then spent 2 hours fighting it to get it back on. Jacking up the swaybar underneath the hydraulic ram was the key.
KDSS is not fun no matter what. Good job sticking to it and getting it done!
Vincente -- What was your total time to get the install knocked out?
@@jacquesrondeau5388 it took me a good 6-7 hours to get the front installed, due to the KDSS. The rear was much easier, maybe 3 hours. Did it over the span of a weekend
@@crpyvnce hey what is the hydraulic ram you had to jack up ?
Is there an Ironman foam cell pro for 2017 Ranger with 4" lift?
Great install video, solid advice, gorgeous suspension.
Thank you! Glad you found it useful.
Do you guys do installs in your Oregon location?
We sure do! Contact customer service and book your appointment today!
Great video. thanks for the help
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful!
@@Ironman4x4America I had trouble with both passenger sides. I had to drop the sway bar in the front too and that was a headache getting back in. I also used a spring compressor on the rear passenger because once the driver is installed the car starts to lift when you jack the other side up. Not a huge deal but I think it would help to see both sides.
Great video!
Besides the need for extra lighting this is by far the best instructional video I’ve seen! You actually say what freaking tools to use. I never understand when someone takes time to show others how to do something and doesn’t say what freaking tools they used. Now only if I could convince the wife we need to lift the GX... anyone got any ideas?
I told my wife its for her and I just want to use it occasionally. She said yes now hopefully I actually get to use it!
Minor front bumper damage => repair with aftermarket front bumper => "Oh shit, this heavy bumper requires new suspension!"
Yup! @@chrischambless
What roof rack is that?
Its our Hybrid flat rack for the GX460, found here: ironman4x4america.com/lexus-gx460-hybrid-flat-top-roof-rack-6-length/
Great vid! Does the KDSS (on KDSS equipped GX)becomes completely disengaged permanently after the kit is installed? If I need to eventually change the LCA to OEM will it matter if LCA is for KDSS or not? Thanks!
No need to disable and remove KDSS. It will still function after any lift. Just follow the steps we outline in the video and you will be good to go.
Does anyone know about how long this project will take?
It depends, what vehicle, KDSS or not, XREAS or not, rusty bolts, DIY or pro mechanic, vehicle lift or on the ground, single person or a team, vehicle weight to adjust ride height, lean correction, etc... Ballpark, 4-24 hours based on all of the variables mentioned. Plus factor in an alignment after. An experienced shop with the exact vehicle in basic configuration can do it in 4-5 hours then alignment on top, so 6 billable. But complications like KDSS, XREAS, rust, can add time.
Does the kit come with front upper shock mounts?
If you choose the prebuilt option it will come with strut tops.
11:25 sounds like Gollum in Lord Of The Rings...lol
All done. 10 hours doing this solo in my garage - going slowly and methodically. Had one question that was solved with a quick phone call to Ironman. This is the 4th vehicle I have lifted. No others have transformed the ride quality as dramatically as this one - all in positive ways. The truck is PLANTED, but not harsh. Braking is SOLID, with 90% less Nose Dive. Can't wait to hit the trail.
Awesome to hear! Enjoy!
Great step by step video!
Thank you!
The least painless install video ive ever seen. Great job. Dont even have a gxor yet but this was entertaining.
Least painless. So then, most painful?
Thanks man✊🏽
Great video! I am getting ready to install my kit this weekend. Is there a reason not to do the replacement of the UCAs while you have the shocks out?
Its a great time to do it, plus with our UCA's you can get your caster back to a good place.
@@Ironman4x4America yes, I got the UCAs. My question was about the order of install. On the video, it was done separately and I was wondering if I should go ahead and replace the UCA while I have the shocks out? On the video the shocks are replaced and then UCAs (but there is a space question and extra care with the new shocks).
@@lettheroadtakeyou Yes absolutely. Its a great time to install them because you are all ready in there.
@@Ironman4x4America I have installed the lift on my Gx460, thank you for the video. It was very helpful, but I do have one comment. Please include a note (after the driver's front install section) saying that the front passenger side will require removing the skid plate, unbolting the sway-bar on the passenger side (you don't have to remove it), and jack the cylinder (driver's front side) to make sure the lower control arm on the passenger side drops so you can install the shock. I spent probably 2hrs trying to remove the original shock, then trying to install the new one...I had to stop the work and finish the next day (after researching the problem). Your video is great and very helpful, if you include the note above on a black screen it will be perfect! (you can see it here: instagram.com/p/CJBgIkhHBc1/?fbclid=IwAR36hj_h_vbXWw_eG38bT5yhaOmbxcOpRbk8oCGN1rKkaklaNMfTGv_haKQ). Just quick editing with the note will resolve it. If someone isn't sure they will at least be aware and it will prompt them to do the research.
@@lettheroadtakeyou I see no reason to not remove the UCAs when the shock body is out. It would make it easier to put the shock body back into place.
Love your foam cell pro shocks! Is there going to be an extended travel version ever available for gx/4runner?
Our shocks will work with up to 3" of lift on those trucks. If you are lifted more than that you could use 80 Series 4" shocks. They will be valved firmer for the larger vehicle.
Nice!
what about airbag delete though :-P
Do you need all 4 jack stands if you DON'T have KDSS? In other words, w/o KDSS, can I install these with 2 jack stands by doing the front jacked up, then lower it down and move to the back jacked up? Curious because I just watched your install video on the Tacoma and you only used 2 stands. I realize Tacos have leafs in the back but didn't know if it mattered. I still have to buy my jack stands and wondering if I need to buy 2 or 4 for my 4th Gen 4Runner. Thanks!
Hi John, yes with no KDSS you can get by with just 2 jack stands. I recommend the taller 6 -ton stands over the shorter 3-ton stands. It really makes a big difference having a bit more room under the vehicle!
I had to rip apart the metal boot and hold onto the shock so it wouldn’t spin
Isn't KDSS disabled by putting the vehicle in 4LO? I would rather do this than messing with the KDSS shutter valve bolts.
KDSS isn't disabled in 4Lo.
It functions hydraulically based on cross corner and same axle suspension travel (which typically corresponds to high vs low speed and on vs off road.)
in 4Lo and off road, same axle would experience differing articulation (e.g. dr front wheel up, pass front wheel down) this allows the hydraulics to flow front and rear or side-side such that the lifted wheel will help push down the drooping wheel. So it's not "disconnecting" the sway bar, but adding articulation AND traction by forcing the drooping wheel down rather than spring alone. KDSS maintains function as a fixed sway bar when both wheels on same axle travel in the same direction (like on road), thus letting that massively fat sway bar act like a performance sway bar giving much better on road handling, and keeping the body flatter from rolling in turns at speed...
Y not show the suv after installation???
Here you go! ironman4x4america.com/build-package-suited-for-lexus-gx460/
How can I find out if my 2014 Gx460 has KDSS? Is there a button inside the cab?
all GX 460 has KDSS and it has no buttons
I’m working on my install now and I’m assuming my KDSS didn’t fully release because I had to use a pry bar to move the LCA down enough to get the driver’s side front coil over into place. My UCA ball joint is not aligning so I can place my castle nut. This has been an epic pain. Should I just close the KDSS valves and restart the process? I’m at a loss here. Thanks!
Even with the valves open, it will still be a challenge. If you need help please reach out to our tech support team and they can get you dialed. 971-264-9016
@@Ironman4x4America You made it look so easy! Haha. Great video and thank you. This has been a job for sure but your video is excellent. I did take the advice of another poster about disconnecting the passenger side front sway bar as that LCA does budge one bit. You guys are amazing as always.
When pulling the rear shock, it can be easier to wedge the wrench, then spin the shock body by hand.