Candice and Gabi are Sisters from another Mister
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Tirrrb video- • Reframing Black Identity
Just because they skin folk........
Come on!
Doesn't even mean they folk..sometimes they Monsters lol
@@dfjr1990 🤔.. sooooo you watched this video, then went into the comments saw mine and thought to ask that question??... woof 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dfjr1990 what about the gangsters in the other communities? 🤔
@@dfjr1990 hope they're well, they're supported, & they get outta that life soon before they die
Candace can't come back til she find all 7 dragonballs and bring back Chadwick Boseman. Then she **might** be up for review
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Shut up about Boseman. He's dead and Shuri is the new BP.
@@suzygirl1843 The point was the heroic shit Candace Owens would have to do to not get looked at crazy, I don't actually care who's playing BP
@@Fooacta What about Kanye. People don't give black men these ridiculous standards. And why would Candace Owens want to come back to the black community? It's so anti-black woman. I wouldn't want your pathetic "black card" either. It's worthless. White Supremacy > Black supremacy.
Dont make Chadwick your 'dieing girl' in this story. The plot is thicker with the pick-me herself. Her soul is still valuable. Have you learned nothing from Steven Universe? 😜
One of my greatest accomplishments is graduating from a white, conservative, private high school but never becoming a black conservative.
On god
My father is mexican and my mother is white i feel like my dad did this exact thing. I remember being 14 and asking him why he never married a mexican woman and he snapped and said they were ugly. We kept talking about why and he told me when i was born he barley spoke any english and was scared. My racist ass grandpa sat him down and told him to act more white and everything would be easier. No matter how much he tried to act like them his bosses always overworked him and passed him over for good routes.(trucker)
He was a big fox news guy back in the 2000's i snapped at him one day saying you think those people like you? You think they wouldnt kick you back to mexico regardless of how many times you voted them in. You impregnated a pretty white woman, They think you are scum nomatter how you act
Damn.
Wow preach lol preach
I met a few Mexican/Americans like your dad which surprised me. One has the same mixture as you and looks like and Indo/Mexican. He's very proud to identify as white and that he does not speak Spanish. The man gets very offended if you call him Mexican, and loves hanging out with the Whites, who when he's not around, refers to him as beaner....etc
I’m ashamed to say that for years, I exhibited that Candace Owens pick-me energy, because I was raised in a very privileged and sheltered home.
To put things into perspective, I grew up in Buckhead, Georgia, one of the richest communities in the city of Atlanta; I grew up so far away from most other black people and was so far removed from black culture that to this day, there are certain cultural cornerstones that I missed out on for a long time; movies that many black people have seen, like “Boyz in the Hood” or “Poetic Justice”, I’ve only seen for the first time recently. I was the son of two college-educated people, one owned an AV tech company, and the other was a principal; on top of all of that, my paternal grandmother is a doctor, so it’s safe to say that my family had it made. And I was raised in the Nation of Islam, a cult that looks down on black people who aren’t members (called them Lost-Founds); and as a result, it was much easier for me to accept those arguments that made Candace Owens so rich and famous to begin with. After all, my family had made it by going to college and getting lucrative careers; so why couldn’t the others? And it hurts to admit, but I even felt myself looking down on the black people I saw, on the internet and in person, behaving in ways that my family would say is “ratchet” or “ghetto”, among other things to remind me that they were behaving in ways that were unbecoming of black people.
And it was only when I went to Howard University and met and befriended black people with vastly different experiences from my own that I was finally able to see that I was lucky to have been raised in such wealth that many of my peers were denied, and how elitist I was being by assuming that just because my family was lucky enough to make it, that I had license to feel superior to those who had not. And after doing my research, I was able to discard those arguments, because they just don’t hold any water. And then I discovered Breadtube and now I’m a full-blown socialist, so yeah...quite the journey.
Such a powerful statement! I salute you for sharing. It wasn't until this year I really was committed to challenging my own beliefs that ppl said were anti black. I've alot more aware now.
Hey man, I just wanna say that as a Black man, I find your content really refreshing. Like, you talk about masculine issues without being overly charitable but also without condemning us. However, I also like how you handle the LGBTQ and women content. As Black men, we're often not really helping women of colour or LGBTQ when we should be, and your content has opened my eyes to that. Now, I must say I don't know what my help might entail, but you opened my mind and showed me that I need to actually shut up and listen more.
This has lead to some really great learning experiences for me. That's priceless. Thanks again.
I’m not black, I’m a brown woman (South Asian) but I love your comment! This applies to other men of color too
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Cool! My gf is east Asian and I've gotten her to watch some of Signifier's content and she's enjoyed it. It's hard to find content like this that isn't dry or underdone.
Anyways, thanks again for that supportive reply. 🙏
Hey, I appreciate the support there. Obviously I still got a lot to learn but this community Signifier has cultivated Is really positive and helpful.
When have black women or lgbtq helped black men? None.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs That's beyond the scope of my point lol. If I only think about how others assist me then no one will help me and I won't help anyone. I'd rather take a step in the direction I wanna see the world go in than to perpetuate the shit I don't like. I have certainly been hurt by some women of colour but I don't want that to determine how I treat all women of colour.
I prefer to lead from the front in my own life. I cannot speak for you.
Best of luck out there, brother.
@@lolwtfbbq111 “Kill em with kindness”
As a muslim who went to a christian college and got convinced to convert to christianity for a while to the point that I became a youth group leader. This makes absolute sense lol.
Just curious, did you return to your previous faith, or did you leave religion behind?
@@joearnold6881 They's now Western Baptist
@@joearnold6881
TLDR: I am Muslim again but kind of on my own terms. I don't let anyone define how I'm Muslim if that makes sense.
So the story is basically I grew up as a Palestinian Muslim in the south, was pretty devoted but always felt like an outsider. I went to a christian college cuz it was a good school, my roommate was a nice guy and one of my few friends because everyone else at that school was massively wealthy and partied like crazy to the point I could never keep up with that lifestyle. He came from a poor family like mine so we related to each other. He was taken in by a youth minister back in middle school and got really involved in a group called young life. When he came to college he was going to continue doing young life and asked me to come along. The thing about younglife is that they never tell you it's about Jesus on purpose. You think you're just at a sing along with games until like the last 5 minutes that suddenly theres a sermon. I had fun and didn't mind the last 5 min. I continued to go but kind of felt alienated from my real identity at the time. I almost didn't mind it though because for the first time I felt like I was really fitting in. I continued to go more and more until one day I started to believe it. But I knew by believing it I could become alienated by my family. Another year goes by I became a youth group leader, I'm becoming more accepted by my new friends even though I was muslim and poor, but i also stop talking to my family as much and my old friends. I basically cut off my old life and self. It felt weird but good at the same time. But the whole time I felt like I was hiding a secret. I was hiding from my parents and siblings the fact that I didn't believe in what they believed in anymore. It was tough. At the end of my sophomore year I was dreading going home but I eventually do to tell my parents that I was Christian and then leave if they didn't accept it. I tell them and my mom starts crying. Not even necessarily because I changed religions but that I was also willing to leave my family behind. I let myself get so alienated from my identity. At that moment I felt so ashamed that I wanted to fix our relationship and myself so I didn't leave. My parents definitely didnt make the situation any better. They were kind of abusive during this time tbh.They made me drop out of college and move back home. They took away my phone. Anytime I got on social media they spied on me. They would read any messages I might have sent after I went to sleep. They didn't help but I loved them. During this time my faith was in shambles. I was a little confused. This is when I discovered youtube. I started voraciously watching anything about religion I could. Christopher Hitchens, Amazing Atheist, all those people. I then started getting into things like Joe Rogan and started hearing his takes on religion and I kind of just felt like I heard enough arguments that I think agnosticism makes sense. So I just kind of did that few years. I started to continue watching more of this content but then it started to get more and more alt right and it just weirded me out so much. I didn't have an alt right phase per se but I definitely had a period where I watched some of that content. I also started at this time going to a new school, made new friends, started working out and even started standup comedy ( I did it for like 6 years until the pandemic started) so life was going pretty well for me. I was still somewhat detached from my old identity but I liked who I was now and even had a better relationship with my parents. At this time I was also really growing out of the pseudo alt right content because of how toxic it was. The rise of Trump really soured my view of the whole thing. Especially how so many of those guys went from Atheist to Fundamentalist Christians lmao. It was at this time I discovered breadttube. I learned about leftism and in a way more about myself. I learned about revolutions around the world. I learned about colonialism. I learned about the colonialism my own people faced. I began to feel solidarity with these other people that faced struggles like my people did. I learned that I had nothing to be ashamed of for being Palestinian, Muslim or anything else. It felt like my eyes had been opened. I also began to learn more about in the inherent leftist principles in Islam and I just slowly began to get back into it. I met other muslim leftists and even the sheikh of my masjed campaigned for Bernie Sanders. It was kind of at the end of this journey that I realized that I should be okay and proud with who I am and where I come from. And it's okay to do it on my own terms. Theres others like me and for the first time I didnt feel alone.
@@ThatSayYou thank you for sharing. I’m sorry for the things you went through, what both your parents and the Christians put you through (especially when you weren’t even a kid anymore by then).
I’m from Boston, Massachusetts, and of Irish descent, so I was raised heavily Catholic. I went to Catholic school all the way through high school, even though I’d begun to doubt and had stopped being christian by around age 15.
I’ve been an atheist since around then.
I read all the Hitchens books and watched the YT videos debunking religion etc.
not all of us took that strange rightward path, but I did see it happening with growing alarm (I mean, the way my fellow Christians treated women and lgbt folks was one of the first things that got me questioning, after all).
Happily there was and is a large group, perhaps a majority(?) who didn’t go alt right.
I denounce any of them who did.
Long story short: I find no compelling evidence for any gods… but I gladly will ally with any of my religious comrades fighting our fight over some fascist who just so happens to share my disbelief.
But I digress. Thanks for sharing and I’m happy you seem to have reconnected with your roots!
Solidarity
@@joearnold6881 Appreciate the story and the solidarity my friend. People like you make me very happy that life took me this way.
The scene where Kaya was debunking all of Gabi's beliefs and all she could do was panic and repeat the lies she was told as a child was my favorite in the manga. I noticed that before that scene Gabi would loudly rave about Island devil's and afterwards she still said it but kind of underneath her breath
mine too especially when gabi said about all the atrocities eldians did and kaya asked if she saw it, the same words she said to falco about paradisians in marley. Aot is good with the parallels
I used to think that since I graduated HS, avoided out of wedlock pregnancy and jail that I was better than other blacks. Once I took a step back I realized how incredibly privileged I was even amongst my other family members. I was born to older college educated parents who were both in their 30s and in their careers, which allowed me to live in a middle class neighborhood with a good school system and teachers who weren’t overworked. Since I was in this environment, my friend group also had similar surroundings so they too were focused on school and weren’t getting in trouble. This allowed me to avoid peer pressure in terms of drugs and gangs. My neighborhood had a community pool, park, and daycare. My neighborhood also hosted seasonal events like fall sales and thanksgiving parades. We never had issues with drug dealers, gangs, or even creeps messing with kids, we could literally play from sun up to sun down without fear of being harmed. I also had a father who claimed me and was in my life even though he wasn’t in the same state, I had access to visit him during summers, he came to see me a few times too, even though he lived states away, he never made excuses when it came to me seeing him. I realized that ALL of this greatly shaped my life today as an adult, and I had to humble myself and become empathic to the black people who didn’t have these advantages.
You went out of the black excellence bullcrap...it was about Time..
For me, I grew up in the same circumstances as other black people but I was never accepted. I either "acted too white" or people in general assumed things about me. People seemed to have so many comments about my race. Assumed I was loud or mean despite the fact I was introverted and didn't speak that loudly. I was told I was different many times and it was either in a good or bad context. People legit questioned if I was black. Of course this was mainly when I was kid up until being a young adult, but it does make me question my self worth when it feels like my worth is going to be a glance and some type of test that some people can't possibly pass. All of the issues didn't stem just from my race, but I'm glad I grew as a person and even went from conservative leaning to annoying liberal.
“Whenever you feel like criticizing any one,” he told me, “just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages that you've had.”
When I got older this quote hit me like a ton of bricks, humidity in words.
This is sooooooooo true.
You’re confusing being black with being poor, they are 2 different things. You and I were more privileged than many poor white people I know.
F.D. is out here subtly reminding people that he got through the AoT manga since some folks went off on him and assumed he didn’t know the source material when he critiqued their boy Eren and subsequently made a case for how Eren falls into a group of characters whom a subset of boys and young men cling to uncritically and even idolize these characters.
I’d prefer him to move on personally. The show was boring and the fascist underpinning is not nearly interesting enough to support this much content based around it.
@@spookydonkey513 I would say they first 3 seasons were really entertaining.
@@joebidenjr5902 for sure. Entertainment is subjective. I got bored half way through the first season, powered through the second and quit. My backlog is too long to force myself to watch something I don’t like.
@@spookydonkey513 I don't think the amount of content is due to the anime itself, as much as much as the popularity. There's only so much to be said about Eren, but the fact that so many young men consider his character to be an idol is hugely significant.
@@ianquick4284 That’s a fair assessment.
I remember one of my grandmas posting on Facebook something like “why can’t black people be more like Candace Owens and less like Colin Kaepernick?” White people definitely fall for the grift.
My other grandma is married to a black man and claims that means she can’t possibly be racist while also saying things like, “black people have every opportunity to succeed in America. Just look at Myke!” I know it’s not my place to speak on Myke’s personal experiences or the experiences of any black person but man, I know it’s not that simple
I'm seen as somebody who "made it", but I know well enough that it ain't simple. There's a thing called luck, y'all.
Lol you have rich whites saying it’s luck sometimes so imagine a black person
I'm a black woman, I was born in Ethiopia, and then got adopted by a white family and moved to Florida, where I grew up alongside my sibling who was also adopted, as the only black people in our family, and one of the only black people at my school. My parents aren't Republican, but they're also not woke, so it was very confusing for me growing up, and I've only started to really understand the extent of internalized racism and internalized misogyny and internalized homophobia that I grew up with. It terrifies me to think that in another life I could have turned into a Candace Owens, and I thank you for your videos, they really allowed me to start understanding what it is to be part of the black community, and for that I thank you.
Thank you for wanting to learn and understand more. We are family.
Fello adoptee here ! I connect a lot with your story ! We will be okay !
Reading your comment and reading your username kind of warms my heart. It reminds me of Lauren Hill's album The Miseducation of Lauren Hill and the book the title was inspired by.
internalized this that. lol. Good luck with your victimhood.
Literally same I'm unlearning and learning alot of new things.
Attack on Titan is weird because it used concepts of systematic racism and internalized racism without ever using the words. But then it can turn around and play with militaristic ideals.
I'd love to hear your views on Zeke and Floch. More importantly, I think the Eldians in the Marleyian military has some buffalo soldier vibes and I'd love to hear you talk about it
The nationalism aspect in AoT is fun because it's a total rug pull. The anime intros for a while are inspiring nationalist bops until actual war looms, then the intros are pure despair.
You can also see the progression with the scout slogan "devote your hearts!" which is repeated by Erwin. In the simple conflict of humans vs titans, it's uplifting, a call to fight and survive together and save everyone. But then it's revealed he doesn't really care about any of that and it's just a tool for him to send recruits to their deaths for his own curiosity. But it's for good ends, right?
Wrong. Now the conflict is humans vs humans. The next time you see the slogan, it's shouted by a fascist mob celebrating a military coup. The protagonists who served under Erwin recognize it and are super unnerved, and have to figure out how they're going to get by or oppose this.
@@grim_glim Exactly. I've seen people describe AoT as fascistic because it glorifies a military coup, but take a look at what actually happens.
In season 3, the Scouting Legion dethrones the government for their corruption and blatant disregard for human life. They are entirely justified in doing so, and vows to do better, like sharing the truth with the public. Any other author would have been done here: “The good guys are in charge. Happy ending, right?”
But Isayama is not trying to idolize anyone. In season 4, the new government withholds the truth, commits war crimes and uses Historia as a political puppet. Hanji recalls the Military Policeman she tortured in season 3 that almost prophetically said that “when one actor leavers, another takes the stage”, and despairs upon realizing that they’ve just traded one dictatorship for another. By the time the Jaegerists take over, it’s clear that the Scouting Legion, no matter how justified they were in their military occupation, utterly failed to make Paradis any more egalitarian than before, and have just paved the path for even more radical insurgents.
AoT is just so fucking good at holding both the characters and the audience accountable. Nothing morally grey is "fine" just because the good guys are doing it.
This comment!
@@grim_glim "But then it's revealed he doesn't really care about any of that and it's just a tool for him to send recruits to their deaths for his own curiosity. But it's for good ends, right?" LMFAOOOOOO
This means a lot to me. I grew up around white people and I never hated my blackness, I just avoided us because all of the black people I did know were the complete opposite of me. I didn’t get comfortable in my skin until I went to an HBCU (FAMU stand up!) and met black kids that were similar to me. They proved that there was more than 1 way to be black. We have to make every effort to be accepting of people as they learn and grow- people can change if caught in time.
Right! Black people are creating pick-mes fr fr. Ill never move back
I could’ve written this myself. I grew up in the burbs of NorCal. Went to a HBCU (Tennessee State) and found my love of all black things. I learned so much and appreciate it all.
@yourstruely Damnn this! I feel the problem arises with racial identity when black people exist in areas that aren't predominantly black. I am Jamaican and I can't imagine identifying myself as anything but Jamaican, not black but Jamaican. There are other races in Jamaica but not enough to add to an experience where I would feel othered in my home country.
Everything you said about Candice is how I feel about Blaire White. I’ve literally called her the Candice Owens of the trans community. Same grift and energy.
I've noticed a similar "pick me" behavior among white liberals. It obviously doesn't come from the same place, but it still manifests.
True and i can't blame them if they are trying hard, most white people don't even Care about racial inequalities since they aren't suffering from it..
I'm east asian and have pick me parents and needless to say, had a pretty strong pick me phase in high school. glad I figured it out, but the last thing I would have needed at that point was an internet pile on.
I’m South Asian and I feel ya about the pick me parents. It’s tough cause I’m in my mid 20s, still live with them and have to see their pick-me behavior lol
That because conservative and east asian beliefs have some similar beliefs
@@randomname4437 what do you mean by east asian beliefs?
It's not exactly the same, but when you said something it reminded me immediately of my experience in LGBTQIA+ circles and disabled circles. It's thankfully not a majority of people, but in both cases, as someone who's queer (both in gender and sexuality) and legally disabled, I've met people who were incredibly homophobic, transphobic and (especially) acephobic, and people who were ableist, while being a member of the groups they were insulting.
White gay men in particular, at least in my experience, are the most likely to be horrible to other members of the community, be it by saying they're not a "real" queer, they're not part of the community, their experience doesn't exist, so on and so forth. I've had gay men tell me ace people shouldn't be included in LGBTQIA+ (nevermind that the A stands for asexual), tell me that the only real trans people are people who transition on the binary, tell intersex friends that they have no place in LGBQIA+ spaces, say that bisexual men, women and NBs who are in straight relationships don't deserve to come to Pride because they're not really queer, not queer enough to be a part of the community.
And usually, these gay men (and others, but they're just the majority) were raised in exclusively straight environment, pretty conservative too, and they've learned that the only way to be somewhat accepted by their straight, conservative friends/family is to be "one of the good ones" and not make any waves, not defend any of the more marginalised members of the community, etc.
And the same went for disabled people, although a lot less frequent than the already pretty rare bigotted gay men. Disabled people in wheelchair who say that you're not really disabled if you're not [fill in the blank], that you don't deserve help or accomodation because you're not disabled enough for them, that you're faking for attention. No matter that my country's government decided I was disabled enough for them to help me, but these people just want to be treated well by able-bodied assholes who tend to baby disable people, treat us like infants and remove our body rights from us, and so they throw other disbled people under the bus to look like "one of the good ones".
And wouldn't you have guessed it, these people were in families where they're the only disabled person, and no accomodations were made for them. They were told to "tough it up", to "stop being so needy", they've learned they can only count on themselves and no one is in their corner, and so now they put that energy back onto other disabled people.
So yeah, it's not the same as with race of course, but I had war flashbacks to these people as soon as you begn explaining the subject of this video.
The worst experiences I've had in the community were with white gays openly fetishizing me. It was very uncomfortable so I deeeefinitely understand.
Holy shit I just realized this happened to me. I've been told multiple times by gay or lesbian people that I'm not truly "queer" for being bisexual and currently in a hetero relationship. And I didn't realize how much I was internalizing until I was starting to develop the same mentality towards trans people, particularly non-binary individuals. Thankfully I'm now aware of the internalized bigotry I've developed and I'm trying to correct it day by day, but there's probably countless other queer people who are going through the same experience
As an autistic black queer I have witnessed and used to internalised all of these what you just said. It's extremely heavy seeing all this unfold!
@@jtsbown I've been there similar relating to transphobia and I honestly wish I had the chance to apologise for my bigoted views I had in high school!
As a trans person, I’ve always compared Gabi at the beginning of her arc to people like Kalvin Garrah and Blaire White, and have found her to be an interesting allegory for respectability politics in marginalized communities. Glad to see this being talked about more. :)
I'm cis and somehow landed on some Blaire White content. That lady is a hate filled monster. She goes beyond respectability politics.
@@tybooskie Go watch one of Vaush’s videos watching her debate with John Doyle and MTG, and Katlyn.
It’s the saddest thing you’ll ever see, but she gets no pity from me sadly.
@@stevonwhite8933 vaush? The guy that wants child sexual abuse legal?
@@WGPhil-uw5cs You think I’m falling for this dumbass bait?
Give me clips in context, and I’ll believe it.
But I can tell you how, every time it’s brought up to ban child marriage on a federal level, it’s blocked by Republicans.
Those conservatives SURE seem to care about kids.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs
He's stated a few dozen times that he was making an argument about how child labor is on the same level as messed up as consuming cp because they're both exploiting children. He doesn't want cp legalized...
I could share my whole story but honestly just want to say please have patience if you have friends or family who are "pick me" types. I was fortunate enough to deconstruct in my early years but when you are around those hierarchies and benefit from being "one of the good ones," it's a hill to climb to unlearn all that. When you grow up in predominantly white spaces where churches, history classes, early authority figures, and EVERYTHING else tries to reinforce the myths of the culture; its a battle to counter act that.
I feel you, and I really try not to hold people to their upbringings, because it’s not something they got to choose. I’m African-American and my parents had always surrounded me with rich white people growing up (they only had good intentions, of course) and this always led me to feel like an outcast of sorts because I had so little in common with my peers. It led me to act in ways that I didn’t necessarily agree with/ like because that how my peers acted and I always longed to feel accepted in my environment.
@@jbb4105 so important to have that community and positive representation to get a sense of self in the early years.
@@snakesonthismondaytofriday1750 hard agree
You’re definitely right, and I don’t know the details of your experience and don’t want to invalidate you. But it’s so fucking hard to have patience with people who regularly parrot the shitty things they’ve heard without ever thinking about what these things mean. I have family members who are pick me types and it’s exhausting to try to talk to them about how harmful their ideas and words are bc they’ll just bury their heads in the sand. Especially when we grew up in the same environment, and ended up with such different perspectives. It’s so painful to be around them.
@@zkkitty2436 that's real. Such a difficult thing. Wanting to influence people with harmful ideas. but at the same time being on the receiving end of harmful ideas and having to hear it.
I can say where I have had success in influencing some around me to question themselves, is asking about core beliefs and where it comes from. Basically, where did we learn this. Gotta remember that fellow citizens aren't the enemy but victims of the same system that creates misinformation.
As hated as she is amongst the fandom, I think that gabi is one of the best written characters in the show, whose character arc has quite a bit to "teach" or show in terms of overcoming internalized racism and societal programming. I think people often times shat on her as a character because she was written to be disliked. We as the viewer were never supposed to agree with her earlier on and that's what a lot of people just didn't realize.
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Seeing people still complain about her after all this time just speaks to the level most people engage with stories on. Most of them are at “she killed Sasha so I hate her” which is stupid enough, but the rest are “she’s annoying and racist, worst character”
She's a parrallel to Eren Yeager, focused on destroying her enemies. However when they both learn their enemies are humans just like them, Gabi learns to empathize while Eren chooses to numb himself to the truth.
It's I appreciate her as a character but before her change in outlook she was very hatable
It’s hard to really gauge people’s true feelings on her character. Because I think everyone gets that she was made to make you hate her and her arc of development is pretty clear cut thrown in your face especially with eren pretty much side by side showing the parallels between them. I think honestly they just did a really good job of making you hate her which is both good and bad because like you said I don’t doubt there are a lot of people that don’t understand the purpose of her character and how her coming into the story was pretty important.
But damn they did a good job of making you hate her especially with falco who gives off a more normal feel compared to gabi’s extremism. Like before her change she was pretty disgustingly horrible with her actions so much so that I could see it being off putting to some. Don’t think I’ve seen a more openly blatant hateful character in recent memory. But again to agree with you such a good written character
I clicked on this so quick lol. I immediately got the comparison.
*flashback to my whole 9th grade class turning their heads to look at me when our teacher said we're learning about civil rights movements
The writing for how Gabi grows is absolutely some of the best stuff that you'll get by the end of AOT.
Love the way you framed this
Yeah, it's so weird that she is hated but it's the same community who loves Floch. I wonder why lol
@@muffinfighter3680 floch is also an extremely well written character for similar reasons to gabi. im honestly surprised he didnt get an honorable mention in the manosphere vid given how a lot of men really identified with his feelings of disillusionment leading to him seeing himself less as a real person and more as a catalyst for the kind of "necessary" brutality erwin and eren would commit
@@muffinfighter3680 I’m surprised Floch got popular, I thought a lot of people would hate him too.
Yeah, she truly is one of the best written characters in the show. It is a shame at how the show ended up. AOT was really gearing up to being my favorite animanga until the rumbling. After the rumbling, the story just kinda fell apart, which in retrospect, is not very surprising. Storywise, you can't really go anywhere after something as final as the rumbling
@@kbreezy1581 does it matter that it goes nowhere after the rumbling since it’s the end of the story though? (Sorry if that isn’t what you were talking about.)
"the police aren't allowed to kill criminals" -- actually we need to say that more often because there seems to be a LOT of confusion about that
Interestingly my parents, my siblings and I all grew up in private European schools where we were all the only black people. Instead of the “one of the good ones” mentality, we instead grew up with a superiority mindset over literally anyone who wasn’t part of specific East African ethnic groups, including yt people. I guess it’s a bit more complex for Africans in Europe, especially when comparing English vs French ( vs Spanish vs Italian vs German vs …) black identity - it is very different. I am aware this type of conversation is typically mostly platformed by African Americans, but I do want to highlight that this isn’t a “universal black experience” - it’s quite a bit nuanced than this, especially when taking into account ethnicity and history of ethnic conflicts on the continent, country when one grew up and relative presence of community. Thus the “pick me” attitude isn’t really individual-based, but more so nationality or ethnic-based. It’s a very nuanced conversation for the black diaspora as a whole.
The diaspora should never be discussed as a whole even when it comes to colonialism. We know the "black experience" isn't universal which is why he IS specifically talking about the ethnic Black American experience. There are plenty of African youtubers and podcasters who can platform your experience. Have you considered seeking out content by black creators who are not ethnic Black Americans and do not mention ethnic Black Americans? I've only found a few English language channels that don't constantly bring up the USA and its issues. 2 of my favs who live in Canada and the UK never talk about anything going on in their countries unless it can be brought back to something going on in the States. You would think Brexit was a local vote to name a new park or that Trump was the PM of Canada!!!! If you are going to listen to a Black American talk about their experience in their home country then accept that they are talking about their own ethnic group and that you and many other people who are racialized as black may simply not relate to those experiences and that's ok.
@@izzyNFT69 Ah my point was that my family sees our people on a pedestal and see everyone, including yt people, as under them, so it's kind of the reverse positions. They've told me time and time again that they'd rather we marry a poor peasant person who' never left our country than a European prince. But I get different people have different experiences
@@tybooskie He said "universal black experience", hence my answer. Knowing this particular creator, I know he appreciates nuance and new information, which is also why I deemed it appropriate. That doesn't mean that I don't follow numerous other youtubers/social media accounts from all over the world. People are capable of commenting on issues in countries they don't live in - especially if they've lived there before, visited it, have family living there, or simply interested in the culture/country, etc - all of which are applicable to me. The rest (the Trump/Brexit/etc comments) I won't comment on because it is clearly not about me.
@@tessy4018 i get your point but being an African born in an African family culture and tradition has nothing to do with the African americans experience as a minority in private white schools..that being said being the only black person among white Can f.uck UP even African kids trying to fit in..the movie farming shows that...
@@tybooskie 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Haha love another FD anime vid 🤣
Yes more please! lol
For the gender version of this phenomenon see „not like other girls“. Which is basically a phase all women of my generation went through as young girls, because media taught us that women couldn’t be complex beings, yet we experienced ourselves as complex beings - so we obviously couldn’t be like the other women, right? 🤦
I hope being complex doesn't mean opening your legs to a person you are not married to and thinking you are independent
@@tobore9559 i hope you’re not serious… Jesus…
@@Tusisvrivhing not serious about what, the question?
@@tobore9559 yes, the question. Being complex encompasses multiple things including sexuality, life experiences and gender. Women are all different beings just like men are. Saying things like what you just said in your response further prove the point of OP; that women aren’t viewed as complex human beings. That they are just supposed to fill a one dimensional role, example beings mothers, bangmaids, submissive wiwes or crazy cat ladies. It is highly diminutive. However if I misunderstood the forgive me.
In some ways, Candace Owens experience isn't terribly shocking based on who she's become. After going through that kind of racial trauma, I might permanently enter a financially profitable villain arc too. If beating them is that hard, might as well join them for all that trouble. Not saying it's right, just saying it makes more sense deep down.
That's why I don't hate her. I actually secretly admire her. I want to see the psychiatry. I want characters like her on my TV screen. Is she Olivia Pope?
My experience of internalizing the white gaze is similar to Candace Owens so I have far more empathy for her than other black folks. I know a lot of people like Candace, we'd never all be in the same picture or room because that would break our unwritten rule of being around that many black folks that aren't family.
It's part survival and part internalized "hatred." Once you're around this neoliberal white gaze of credentialed professionals from a tender age, the reaction is more unspoken than people realize.
Can we really be mad at her for deciding to get rich off the dollars of dumb racists?
@@dhj-i8g yes WE CAN...evil is evil..
I wouldn't say it's safe to admire her. All she's really gained from her endeavors is money, and despite what a lot of black people think, money doesn't hold a whole lot together as far as emotional and mental fulfillment. Money can buy peace of mind, but it can't buy true inner peace.
Also, I can't imagine Candace has any true community around her. Rich people are notoriously unhappy in general.
I moved to an upper-middle-class, white suburb as an adolescent. I had white friends (whom I truly loved), listened to rock (Grunge, if that ages me any), and came to talk like the white girls whom I knew.
Being suspended for natural hair (it was considered an "extreme" hairstyle and thus a dresscode violation), meeting the parents of the white boys who took me home (they weren't exactly thrilled), having the cops called on me in my own neighborhood (more than once) and looking for my first job in that same neighborhood taught me crucial lessons about being 'different.'
I understand how people like Owens may cope by internalizing anti-Black ways of thought (we all want to be loved by whomever is around to love us), but it still makes me sick. Self-hatred is a terrible coping mechanism.
I had never heard about all the trauma Candace experienced as a youth. This all explains so much. Really fucking sad, honestly!
This discussion reminds me of something I recognize where I teach at. I currently teach at a high school that I attended in the 90s. When I was a student the student body was around 60-70% hispanic and 30-40% white (rough estimation). It was not uncommon for students of differently races to intermingle and groups were formed of mixed races. A hispanic person dating a white person was very common. Also common were white students who learned a lot of the Mexican culture that predominated the school. I knew white teens who had a more knowledgeable palette of Mexican cuisine than some hispanic teens in the suburban area. That isn't to say this school was some kind of utopia. There were always racial tensions. There was more intermingling but you could always find the "all white" groups and the "all hispanic" groups.
Fast forward to now. The dynamic of the town is closer to 90-95% hispanic and 5-10% white. Students seem to have more access to topics of issues of race, class, and sexual orientation. These students seem to have a more mature and nuance opinions of LGBT issues than some of the adults teaching them. But, their views on race have not matured. In fact, they seem to have regressed from their counterparts in the 90s (ironically, their parents). White and hispanic students segregate themselves on campus. I have seen issues between white students fight because one student is dating another students ex. But, if the population is so small then the pool is limited. There is only so many white people to date and they do not date date outside their race. I just find it amazing how these students seem to have such a nuanced view on many things (compared to us at their age) but they lack the ability to deal with other races.
Now, compare that to other schools in the district where the percentages are reversed. The race issues in their schools are so much worse (like making the newspaper bad).
damn. this is rough. I feel like the entire US is regressing on many issues.
Race in usa is definitively a mess...
It could be really the demographics and that the white population is shrinking in the school so they feel more like the others and stick together. Versus when you’re 30/40% there might be more comfort and branching out to other groups isn’t that daunting.
I remember meeting Gabi in the story and being fascinated. This was an uncomfortable character that depicted a very harsh reality for some minorities. It was one of the few times the author's "on the nose" approach enhanced the text, with her literally saying phrases like "one of the good ones". Her arc overcoming that is one of the last good things this story did and it was excellent, some of the most compelling writing in the entire show.
And I was depressingly unsurprised to find out how VIOLENTLY the core audience for the show despised her. Because she killed the funny potato girl, she was irredeemable. Not Eren, the guy who's been shown to be violent and murderous from an early age that ends up advocating for mass genocide. He's fine. He has his "reasons". But the child soldier who was indoctrinated and brainwashed, who visibly has her world torn asunder as the realities of those beliefs and the consequences of her actions are shown to her, deserves to be killed. A shining diamond of character growth with something to actually say about the themes of the work is overshadowed by the relentless ire of some internet nerds who got mad their waifu got iced.
I may not 100% be behind AOT's text being fascist (the anime, at least, seems to be putting in some effort to course correct in that regard), at most I think it's clumsy and overcomplicates its apparent message of "genocide and racism are wrong", but God damn do the show's fans make it damn near impossible to hold that stance sometimes.
I am ine he is hated, and thank god it had a narrative reason to be that way. Honestly one o the best arcs in the end. Her reemption and deradicalazion and forced realisation.
Thank you for this conversation, this is literally reflective of my own experience of being an Asian growing up in a mostly white environment and having to navigate the space with some degree of internalized racism. The bullying, reacting to the bullying by getting in the good graces of the dominant culture, and finding that I would be more popular by espousing heterodox views that were basically republican talking points.
As I grew up I started to realize how racist these spaces were and went from centrist leaning right to hard left. Probably it helped that I spent less time with white conservative people and more black and Latin people in my circles.
lol.
im a third generation poc originating from turkey (though we’re alivites) born and raised in germany and grew up around mostly white liberal germans and i can say the analysis here is spot on! although the relationship between the turkish and the alevites is extremely complex (they persecuted and slaughtered my people until the early 90s - see the sivas massacre from 93) i love my family that still lives there but i grew to despise the people and islam (of course for being persecuted but also) because there was no other way for me to fit in. i had to fit out my community and prove I’m „one of the good ones“ in order to be tolerated, accepted and eventually respected. since turning 30 two years ago I’ve now been trying to untangle that hate towards the people and I’m discovering that a lot of that was instilled in me by environment and surrounding.
you’re doing an amazing job man! i love your work! been sending it to a lot of friends and a lot of super dope convos came out of the topics you discuss. much much love from berlin!!
Thank you for this comment. I'm a half turkish person and I grew up in a very predominantly white area in England. Since I already look pretty white I didn't often feel pressured to try and set myself apart from other turks or muslims in general, since it was sort of already done for me. But in recent years I have certainly had to try and unlearn the negative depictions of Muslims and Middle Eastern societies that I have been internalised with whilst growing up in Britain. These types of depictions had, to an extent, enflamed tensions within my family, since I would automatically attribute some of my relatives' behaviours and beliefs to the sorts of sexism and 'backwardness' that the West usually attributes to middle eastern societies. Things have been a lot better since I began to rethink some of these. As someone in a similar position to you, I wish you luck on your journey to reconnect with your culture :)
If we're going to be real, Reiner's mom is Candace Owens proper.
Lol💯
That’s why I feel terrible for Gabi. The environment the Eldian warriors grew up in is so fucking messed up, it’s kinda beyond words. But a level of that is lost when you see adults acting the same way. Gabi is like 11 years old
Those of us who are Black and doing ok aren’t “the good ones”; we’re just the ones w/ more opportunity than others of our race.
I think you got in your feelings and missed the point. 15:44
Cry for candece oh Argentina tears and more tears for Candece.
Say it louder for the so called good blacks in the back please!
@@hugh_jasso how am I in my feelings?
I’m saying that I’m NOT special. That I’m 99% a function of my environment.
I love how both shots of them have the same bangs
Gabi is identical to eren in season 1. Their motivations and justifications for violent behaviour are quite similar. "I will do whatever it takes to protect my people from _those_ monsters." They've both got reasons to characterise the other side as intrinsically bad. The only real difference between eren and gabi is that gabi has been brainwashed into thinking her own race is the other side and she should strive to be accepted by marley as one of them.
Never called myself "one of the good ones" but hoo boy, the amount of times I was called that phrase.
Puttin it bluntly, Iss appalling, does not bold well for the young psyche. Glad I’m no longer in an area where that is considered a feature of me (for now…)
The unbridled hate towards Gabi is one of the many red flags of the fandom for me
Which is ironic because the people that hate Gabi the most are exactly like Gabi. Being ignorant, refusing to admit fault and change for the better.
@@whoisthisperson8454 worse than Gabi then cause even her did just that.
For her to be annoying makes sense. No I didn't want her to kill Sasha, nor did I want her to be stabbed. People will shelve their empathy because they want to be right, when a lack of empathy oft makes you wrong
@@mohamedrawadali7938 yup they are Gabi without the redemption arc. I don’t hate Gabi for killing Sasha because it’s war and they celebrated prematurely. It’s the same with people hating on Annie because she killed the Levi squad.
I will call them a vocal minority. They clearly miss the point. We're supposed to hate Gabi (she killed best girl for a reason) then as the story goes you see her redemption. They never have smoke for Reiner or Annie who killed way more though.
Hahaha the “why are you yelling” part killed me because my mom is also a teacher and is yelling for no reason sometimes 😂
Since I got shit on for telling a story about myself on a previous video, I will keep this brief: I was a "pick me" disabled person in school, and I am still coughing up the ableism I internalized.
I see that on tik tok in the gay community all time (with white young people in particular)
they want to separate themselves from most of the community to avoid discourse about racism, sexism etc) so they center everything about their own marginalization which usually ends up just sounding transphobic as shit or some weird anti black stuff
Ayeee!!
Tirrrb is from Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA!
The yeehaw province of the country!!!
Hahaha, in all seriousness though, Gabi’s radicalization draws a lot of parallels between the black experience in the white space.
One thing I forgot to touch on in my video are how “woke” adults and systems of social circles can positively effect the experience of black youth. I’m so glad you brought that up!
"He had drugs in his system" yeah, micrograms. As in traces of drugs, not recent. Idk how people justify the train of thought of "he did a drug! He deserves it"
And even if his body was filled to the brim with drugs, that still didn't give the police the right to kill him, just as the police don't have the right to kill anyone because of drug use.
@@biggtk that's my point. I apologize if I didn't articulate that well. "Innocent till proven guilty" applies to few
? Andrew Baker, the county chief medical examiner, wrote that he had more fentanyl in his blood than a chronic pain patient would be on. It wasn’t just traces- just Google his notes from a meeting with the prosecutor, which were submitted into evidence. Obviously he didn’t deserve to die or be brutalized by the police because of this, but it’s better to be accurate in your facts and not spread misinformation. If you have any articles that back up your claim, lmk I’d love to also fact check my understanding of the case.
@@pievancl5457 yeah, I had another look. I misunderstood. I thought the med examiner said micrograms and it was 11 nanograms per ml. Regardless, that wasn't what killed him and he didn't deserve any of that. Especially not over a supposedly fake bill
@@JoseSanyet agree 100%
The way I clicked with the SWIFTNESS
I went to a 99% white school and the 1% that were balck and Hispanic in my four years there grew up to be the most racist anti black and brown people I've met. One of the two black men grew up to be a cop and would go on Facebook during BLM and post the most racist shit about other black people it blew my mind.
5:18 this is a thing that actually happened with a lot of Jews in the Nazi German state, too. A lot of them renounced their Judaism and identified more with their Germanity than with their Jewishness, and served loyally under the state, right up until the end when they were either killed or put into the camps themselves. Last one on the train and all that.
I love how Gabi developped as a character, but at the same time, she indeed was very annoying at the start, just like Eren was, due to their very simplistic mentality and their over-the-top anger. She is a amazing character, and the hate she received has nasty undertones when you consider the fanbase, but i do understand how she could get on people's nerves.
Like i totally understand her befor she has that arc o meeting sashas family and being confronted, she is the worst, to be clar she is well written, but the worst,
If people hate her after that, that i saying actually something. Before pretty sure her being hated is a bonus to the story and her story.
There's def "pick me" workers out there, even on construction jobs when you sweat yr ass off on break, there'll be those "yr right bossman, we should be done already" types🤦
I kinda knew what I perceived as Attack on Titan's message would not be heard by most of the audience by the communities reaction to Gabby. She was broken by internalized racism but had experiences to see the humanity in Eldians, her and Kaya's arc showed a better path forward then Eren's resigned violence. While the original cast was fighting to survive and aging up, a new generation could learn to heal a better way. That was not the story we got.
endorsement
Eren made the right Choice
Now that I've finished the video, you're absolutely right. I'm glad I caught myself early in middle school and changed the course of my life, but that mindset is one that can continue to damage us as a whole as long as it persists.
She ain't coming back. Seein more ppl like that crop up really grinds my gears a bit cause it just reminds of that phrase that goes "my people will never be free."
as long as you insist on seeing Candace & Judge Thomas as “your people” you will never be free.
Gabi is like a shonen heroine/protagonist whose train of thought went ALL THE WAY OFF THE TRACKS. Like her dedication would be admirable if it was applied in a good direction.
Don’t disrespect Faze Gabi like that
This reminds me of the term " minority majority" where something like a school is mostly poc. I grew up going to minority majority schools and this video makes so much sense to me. Thanks for the content!
Saw "one of the good ones" in a PragerU ad while watching this.
The third type is “military veteran, father of 2”.
At least Gabby grew up
"Clarence Thomas nah" made me do a spit-take
What's funny about CO she was treated horribly in HS. Even filed a class action lawsuit against the school due to horrible racial bullying she experienced.
Could Gabi symbolized how the Koreans became self Hating because of japanese invaders racist Propaganda?
I am one of those Canadians immersed in whiteness. Im 46 years old. If it wasn't for PE, NWA, XClan, etc. and The Autobiography of Malcolm X. I would've been in the sunken place.
Lol
Makes no sense how spot on this comparison is
My best friend is an opera singer and teacher and has absolutely no inside voice. Resonance all day long. Try turning down the gain and if your voice starts to hurt keep the resonance in your mask and away from your throat!!!
What these people don't realize is they were never loved and accepted by the group where there they are seeking acceptance. Once you are no longer useful you're done.
aww, FD, your Clarence Thomas video is going to be epic, though!
this is a very intriguing parallel. you got me with the anime references lol
This kinda reminds me of an experience from my youth.
I moved to a very rural area at one point and when going to school, the other kids saw my Mediterranean appearance and nicknamed me 'Jew' - with all the cannards and barbs that went along with the name - when I corrected them and told them my actual heritage, they pivoted to using slurs and jokes based on my actual lineage which was more upsetting for young me than how I was treated prior.
As a defense mechanism, I quickly pivoted back to the 'Jew' persona and despite everyone's knowledge that I was not Jewish they were more than happy to oblige and go back to that.
Looking back, I realize the other kids wanted to use me as some kind of living stereotype for their punchlines and out of social pressure I was made to adopt a completely alien persona to protect my actual identity, in effect enabling their racial prejudice in order to protect myself.
Public school is pretty wild.
AOT really breaks this racial shit down in words I’ve never had.
Candace was recently on Dj Akademiks podcast and I consider myself a very open minded person, tolerable to different beliefs when presented to me and I couldn't help but get frustrated by her views bc they're rooted in her being bullied by black women throughout school.
I couldn't finish the pod it was fucking up my work day ong.
Lmao saving this one for work tomorrow 🤣
oooooh been thinking about the self-hating thing with Gabi since binging the first half of the last season last year, thank you for talking about this! being an otherized child is so hard and it can go sideways so easily.
Oh yes anybody that has seen AoT knows this is 100% accurate.... Nobody hates their own more than those two.
Atleast Gabi had her redemption arc
@@eramurez8548 True. I'll give her that.....I guess I'm still holding on to the Sasha incident.
@Zain Eleissa no, it's just easier to empathise with her in anime form.
But Gabi changed/redeemed herself. It’s almost the reverse Candice Owen (from liberal to extreme conservative grifter)
Gabi was systematically and violently brainwashed. Candace just found a way to make easy money.
Candace is banned from the Black Race until she can defeat Saitama and Gold Experience Requiem.
Fiq, I would love to hear your take on masculinity in berserk, if you've read it. Love the anime vids. Thanks as always.
I'm guessing he would hate it because of what happens to Casca. I like berserk btw
Can't believe you went with the Attack on Titan reference instead of the classic Uncle Ruckus (no relation). 😉
So what's up with the post-80s NAACP? More curious about that part
I don't mean to throw to much shade but as someone whose grandparents are involved in the NAACP they really don't do much to benefit the black community barring a few local scholarship programs. It basically devolved into a old folks club that doesn't do anything except say "we are strongly against X racial act" and serve breakfast once a year.
It’s crazy but I went to a mostly white school and I definitely didn’t turn out like Candace. I think growing up with parents that were big on family and community building helped with that yeah I went to a white school but the rest of my upbringing was black, church, summer camp, sports and my first jobs were with my mom in a black run community center. I definitely was told I talk white but the love from the black community is just amazing and you know it doesn’t matter if you’re a little different. I never felt othered in the black community.
Isayama made Gabi Braun to show the effects and how radicalization/propraganda starts. Even though it took her a considerable amount of chapters, she later is deradicalized at the end of the story to show how facisim sucks. So idk how you came to the conclusion that Isayama is a Facist.
Never thought I would learn a lot about Candace Owen's backstory with Gabi from AoT lol. But no really, I wished more people talk about the internalized racism that kids internalized. And messed up but unfortunately not surprised the school did nothing to deal with Candace's bullying. So glad I found your side channel. And if you ever made any more video essays or just videos about AoT, I'd be happy to watch it
I'll never understand the hate for Gabi. Her arc is one of the best in AoT, and perfectly encapsulates Isayama's humane and anti-fascistic themes.
The hate for Gabi comes from not being able to separate her role in the story with how her actions made them feel. She's a child soldier who's been fully indoctrinated into Marleyan propaganda. And her arc is her becoming deradicalized and coming to terms with her misguided beliefs.
It honestly breaks my heart how many people are incapable of reflecting on this kinda stuff and refuse to show even a shred of empathy for people who simply didn't have a chance to become anything but a product of their shitty environment. Fictional or not, this kinda thing is still happening irl to this day.
I mean, to be fair, I'm not sure it was that deep for most people. I don't think ppl we're analyzing the show like that. A lot of ppl were just mad that she killed Sasha. Some ppl just watch shows for the mind-numbing entertainment of it all.
They are petty and hate her because she murdered a beloved character. They don’t care what she does after that. Her self hatred is very well written and I see many parallels that can be made with her experience.
@@lauren1211 that’s a perfect example. So so so many people just watch anime for entertainment, and that’s fine, it’s a pretty shallow medium for the most part. A lot of people simply aren’t thinking about AoT as any sort of specific social commentary, and thus really only look at it as “which characters are likeable and which ones aren’t”
All that said and misogyny
Can you do a video about Amber from Invincible? Not saying she’s like Candace Owens but people hating on her as if she’s the main villain
I realize this video is 2 years old but I just have to comment now.
Why isn't Candace Owens talking about white on white crime in regards to the assassination attempt on Trump? 😂😂
July 2024
No, she's doubling down in his defense.😂
This was definitely me in highschool. Luckily my mother convinced me to go to an hbcu and I grew out of that behavior
Gabi aka the character who took the least Ls in attack on Titan
I think you're reading way too much into this. For Candy it's less a matter of internalized r@cism and more a matter of...$$$$!! She's as much a p.o.s. grifter that doesn't care about anything of substance, as long as the money rolls in, as people like Glem Greenwald, Dave Rubin, Blair White, etc. are.
I don't understand how you could correctly interpret the messages of Gabi's arc and simultaneously interpret AOT as pro facist.
Who wants Candace owens to play Gabi in the upcoming attack on titan Netflix adaptation?
Love that you had a hard time pointing to the pick-me’s. You still got there way faster than the fascists they’re sucking up to ever will.
It's not quite the same as racial self-hate, but I have experienced self-hate for being someone from a working class community, with a working class-coded accent. My mother taught me that speaking the way most kids in my mostly working class Yorkshire school did was "common" and bad, and as a result, I hated my own voice for a long time. And not just my accent: I also didn't have the context for my home town was so fucked economically and why people at school were so toxic. I was only vaguely aware of the history of The Miners Strike, and basically knew nothing else about the history of the labour movement and other important cultural things where I grew up. Now I'm finally trying to re-acquaint myself with those things as an adult, and have what I never got to have back then.
Basically, I was Yorkshire Gabi Braun as a teenager. It's a painful place to be. The fact I've changed so much and finally equipped myself with the knowledge my family failed to equip me with, and they've changed so little in their attitudes since then, causes conflict sometimes. And also it's sometimes a challenge to engage with other Yorkshire folk who aren't as informed as me, because it feels like a personal betrayal.
The only real difference in my case is that it wasn't performative to please non-Yorkshire folk, because there wasn't many in my life. But I was made to internalise a sense of shame for not living up to middle class London respectability politics.
i was a white person in a nearly all black community in my first formative years of school. was really interesting. i absolutely was othered (but i had a lot of other reasons besides race for this, and i continued this way when i went into white schools, so i don't think that's really the reason..) but I also really enjoyed seeing black culture, in a way i never would have. and so don't regret it. but even in that situation, i knew some of the inherent race issues going on, only white people on tv etc, so that also makes it different still then the other way.
It doesn’t apply to you, the effect is about minorities trying to woe the people in power by being subservient, not the other way around, you already have the institutional power you don’t need to be “one of the good ones” you already are part of the in group
@@ericktellez7632 yea the point he's made several times is that being in a minority school as a white person even has a weird effect, so i thought i'd weigh in on it. as that is something that's a personal experience. i know it is of course different than a minority in terms of the larger culture.
@@ericktellez7632 I think it can also apply to non-minorities.From what I understand it's on being the minority in a majority.
Really interesting to learn the deep Candace lore. It sucks that this happens to people but still no excuse when those people turn around and use their platform to harm people.
Interesting take. So blacks just need our version of the founding titan, and get the 'Rumbling' started.
Noooooooo!
Haven’t gotten that far im on Episode 6 of AoTs final season but I will say that a young girl who is willing to shorter her lifespan to become the greatest militarized weapon of her oppressor, has some severe dissonance with her identity to say the LEAST
Gabi is looking for a sense of worth she doesn’t feel like she can get from being proud in herself and her heritage. Some deep ish. AoT took a turn for the finale 😂😂
So Candice and Kanye have had really different upbringings. How do you explain the similarity in their villain arcs if this is about childhood trauma? Yeezy doesn't fit the two narratives you outlined at the end.
Good point! but the common place is that they both Come from middle class black families which says alot about how the black excellence bullcrap (sowell, mcwhorter..etc )Can f.uck UP middle class black people easily..
Thanks for reminding me to look for the Attack on Titan is fascist video when I get home from work.
How did Childish Gambino embrace anti-blackness?
Now that I think about it - she's more like Annie. So traumatized that she doesn't care about the morality if what she's doing. I dunno. Owens has a bit of both characters characteristics, but Gabi isn't a grifter
I don't think any comparisons work. Candace chose to hate on her own to make a quick buck. No one brainwashed her. The racist incident she experienced was singular and specific, not systematic, and she fought against it. She did a 180 for money.
@@luna-p Yeah. You might be right on that one
Oh, I'm surprised you brought up the Asian diaspora in this video. I agree that we haven't even begin to unfurl the toxic projection we have living in a white dominated world. The black community Talk about this, but the Asian diaspora mostly avoided this conversation.