And if Jimmy Page is sad, he can remember that he somehow managed to be lucky enough to exist at the same time as Davey Graham, from whom he completely ripped off this song.
I know what u mean. When I saw Marcin Patrzalek earlier today on RUclips, the way he played, like he's playing 24/7, non-stop. As much as I love percussive guitar, he's half a drummer.
It’s amazing how he improvised little different fills in between the actual song. Also how you can hear the blues mixed with the Indian music and even a little bit of a Spanish sound at times all at once. Incredible. As well as his fingerpicking ability lol
Listen to Davy Graham's "She Move Through The Fair", Jimmy Page is "covering" it without giving credit, as he loves to do. All those themes and tasty bits are Davy's.
I had this played at my mother’s funeral in June 2023 and I’ve instructed my daughter to have it at mine. One of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written.
what I like is he's not just a fast shredder. He actually plays music on his guitar. And he sounds like playing the sitar or arabic guitar music. In the old days, guitarist always wants to sound different from everybody else. Which mostly influence by blues. Now, they just shred into oblivion and k-pop take over. :p
funny how each person plays the same thing but sounds different. Thats what makes guitar so special. Also thats what makes Page so great is his creativity. Even when he covers something his interpretation is original. shred is easier than playing slower and thats why other music stands the test of time over the shred era.. .
The guitar arrangements didn't spring into existence from the traditional ballads. They are the work of uncredited guitarists Davey Graham, and Bert Jansch respectively. Page stole it and then did a school boy imitation.
@@billbaggins1688 He thought Bert Jansch was using DADGAD but Black water side was in dropped D. I think he could have made something better and less controversial by taking inspiration from Davy Graham and Bert Jansch but doing his own thing. As it is he has murdered a brilliant arrangement of Black Waterside by Bert Jansch.
@@billbaggins1688 - You're here, you've obviously heard Page's performance here. Page is definitely giving his own interpretation & redefining the initial pieces. Yes, it's sad (at minimum) that he didn't formally credit Jansch or Graham. However, he is an excellent guitarist with a superior arrangement of his own. Just because some don't like that he stole from them doesn't diminish Page's superior playing skills & improvement of the two pieces. He obviously served to popularize them more than Jansch or Graham combined - which is a testimony to Page's ability to reach a far wider audience over multiple generations & decades of time. Page has accomplished much more than a mere "school boy imitation" here - those are in abundance ad infinitum ad nausem by far lesser guitarists than Page - ironically, imitating Page himself. The originals aren't necessarily superior just because they preceded Page - Jansch - ruclips.net/video/f5Gcu0Sv6lk/видео.htmlsi=td4AiKRzod3GsEh5 Graham - ruclips.net/video/PrWGwdsYifw/видео.htmlsi=a1SXH8jp54GqHBCH Literal "Schoolboy imitation" of Page - ruclips.net/video/M_v-ykiySRc/видео.htmlsi=Fz-pOtcE5tZP7KWE
@@killianw4990 Some people play almost note for note Bert's version and they prefer dadgad, I dont know why the different tuning should make any difference. The song isn't an original, but his guitar accompaniment is. Jimmy's version is an instrumental and makes no references to the melody, so obviously what he "stole" was not the original folk song, but Bert's original guitar accompaniment. I also think morally there is a very big difference between folkies swapping songs at the pub, and a rockstar worth hundreds of millions of dollars nicking the arrangement of a relatively unknown guitarists without ever mentioning him. I don't know about the legality of it, but morally I think its pretty fucked up.
@@killianw4990 What's more fucked up is that, as you can guess by reading this comment section, people think that this all came from Page "genius". Which is understandable, since he changed the title and never mentioned Bert, thus giving the impression that this is his own original composition.
@@timothyriley4209 Did you make at least make an effort to read my argument or...? Its true that its a folk song, but his behaviour was scummy as fuck. First he changed the title, giving the impression that it was his own composition, second he made no reference to the original folk song, what he did is just make his own version of Bert's guitar accompaniment. Might be legal, but its pretty disgusting.
Thanks for your effort. Sounds great, and the distorted video is kind of trippy if you're not too picky about it. Those who enjoy Jimmy's Eastern-influenced acoustic guitar work might like a vid I just posted. Rosetta West - Yallah.
Wish the tracking on that VHS tape was fine tuned but Hey, thanks for the effort and bringing this to, us, who love Jimmy. Love the Gibson hummingbird. Beautiful guitar.
That tracking line is on the master tape of this video as it was damaged during storage by the BBC. This is the best version that you’re gonna get as all copies of this tape will have that distortion.
Listen to Davey Graham's She Moves Though The Fair. That is white summer. Listen to Bert Jansch's Black Waterside. That is Black Mountainside. Great playing of other people's arrangements of traditional centuries old Irish folk songs.
@D D Jansch's work in this case are his own arrangements of classic centuries old Celtic tunes. Arrangements cannot be protected. The original is in the public domain. A tip of the hat would be nice, but Jansch has no legal recourse here.
He might have no legal recourse, but Page just stole jansch arrangement with the signature lick and all and never thought to mention it, just as if it were his own. I find it pretty reprehensible, especially considering the level of fame that Page had compared to Bert's
Get over it. Its a traditional folk song and its not arranged in the exact same way. I can think of ten other famous bands with more egregious examples copying but its never mentioned because its somehow cool and trendy to tear down Zep.
I recall him saying everything he wrote he did on acoustic first. I wonder if there is a version of this without the blues? Where was this? No matter he is the greatest in my mind. Thank you so much.
Could sombody possibly please put their digital expertise to getting id of the broken video image? It is quite appealing but Julie Felix and Jimmy Page requires as a testament to a historical moment of a musical moment and enjoyment
That's like saying that every movie stole the Gale. Irish folk music That's from last of the mohicans To almost every other movie scene. What's the saying imitation is the greatest form of flattery What's the saying imitation is the greatest form of flattery. We all learn from those who come before us.
I really wish Jimmy would give credit where credit is due ugh. This is "She Moved Through The Faire" by Davy Graham, with bits taken from "Blackwaterside" by Bert Jansch. Yes, it's a great cover, and he added his own spin, but would it kill this guy to give some credit?
He may not be the best electric player, he is my all time electric player but when comes down to acoustic, with his different tunings he is the best. Let me see Eric Clapton play acoustic like this, nothing a against Clapton or Beck but they can't play acoustic like this.
One day, AI video editing or some other software magic perhaps available already will be able to recreate a beautiful version of visual part of this performance. Right now we can just watch it with our eyes closed and imagine being in the audience. Good enough for me.
You cannot copyright a musical arrangement of a traditional folks song. White Summer is also centuries old. Check Davey Graham She Moved Through The Fair. Both Graham and Jansch were/are pissed about lack of credit for arrangement.
Lot of commenters fawning over Page's playing on this. He's sawing away in DADGAD with a lot of droning strings; not really fingerpicking at all. Look, I adore Led Zeppelin, but Jimmy is just aping things he copped off of Bert Jansch and Davey Graham. You want fingerpicking, check out Bert, Davey, John Fahey, Glenn Jones, Richard Thompson, or Nathan Salsburg.
I love Zepplin, grew up listening to them- love Clapton, Beck, Hendrix, etc., etc.- but all these arguments about who is or was "the best" guitarist are just ridiculous and silly. It's purely subjective, there's no answer to that question. Page was the best at playing the style he played, playing with the band he played with- no one else could've done that. But you can say the exact same thing about Hendrix, about Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, the list goes on and on. Most ppl say Hendrix because he's the guy all the legends say they think was the best but- really it was only a handful of guys who said that and, they all played pentatonic blues just like Hendrix so- of course to them, he was the best. And if you like blues and blues based classic rock, he may still seem like the best guitarist to you. But- ppl who don't care for that kind of music would disagree with you- they would choose someone like Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, or some other virtuoso style guitarist. To me- the best player- probably Django Reinhardt, Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, or David Gilmour. But see then I'm leaving out Randy Rhodes, the reason I play guitar. There's no such thing as the best.
Agreed but the one thing page had that nobody else did was his level of creativity. Just listen to the diversity of the songs on each of the 8 Led Zeppelin studio albums then listen to the live versions….nuff said!
It was worth going cross-eyed to watch this.
If you are ever sad just remember that the earth is billions of years old and you somehow managed to exist in the same time period as Jimmy Page.
haha epic comment
Jimmy Page takes away our blues with his own version at a whole new level.
And sadly, Jeff Beck.
❤ absolutely 😅
And if Jimmy Page is sad, he can remember that he somehow managed to be lucky enough to exist at the same time as Davey Graham, from whom he completely ripped off this song.
Brilliant performance by a young 26 year old
This is why he's my favorite guitar player of all time. The passion in the music makes all the difference.
You can tell he loves to play and not just doing it for a job.
Are you from another planet? 😆
I know what u mean. When I saw Marcin Patrzalek earlier today on RUclips, the way he played, like he's playing 24/7, non-stop. As much as I love percussive guitar, he's half a drummer.
Les zeppelin changed my life in a way I can’t put in words they are my gods
Never gets old. And neither does his spirit!
Since I'm seventy I guess ive been listening to jimi for fifty five years and he can still blow my mind
I’m 65. This never gets old.
It’s Jimmy not Jimi
ahhhh, all the Jimmy haters, so jealous, so frustrated, so totally worthless in their own lives! Jimmy is God!
Absolutely!
For me, his vibe is deeper and more palpable than most. Great depth and mystery in there….
There’s dozens of covers out there, but all of them came from Jimmy’s mind, spirit, and soul.
It’s amazing how he improvised little different fills in between the actual song. Also how you can hear the blues mixed with the Indian music and even a little bit of a Spanish sound at times all at once. Incredible. As well as his fingerpicking ability lol
When did he finger pick?
@@QuantumLeap89 he’s holding a pick with his thumb and index finger and then using his middle and ring finger to finger pick. Did you not notice?
@@gavincummings209 I wasn't watching the video. I just glanced at it and saw he had a pick.
Listen to Davy Graham's "She Move Through The Fair", Jimmy Page is "covering" it without giving credit, as he loves to do. All those themes and tasty bits are Davy's.
Yes and no, Jimmy is definitely giving his own interpretation and redefining the initial piece
I just love seeing this old footage!!!!!
I had this played at my mother’s funeral in June 2023 and I’ve instructed my daughter to have it at mine. One of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written.
I just heard Sandy Denny’s version of Blackwaterside. Check that out if you haven’t already. The only woman btw the sing on a Zeppelin song
The master at work.
What I love most about this tune is that it's uniquely his.
He's like Merlin with a freaking guitar.Jimmy Merlin 🎼🧙🎸
what I like is he's not just a fast shredder. He actually plays music on his guitar. And he sounds like playing the sitar or arabic guitar music. In the old days, guitarist always wants to sound different from everybody else. Which mostly influence by blues. Now, they just shred into oblivion and k-pop take over. :p
funny how each person plays the same thing but sounds different. Thats what makes guitar so special.
Also thats what makes Page so great is his creativity. Even when he covers something his interpretation is original.
shred is easier than playing slower and thats why other music stands the test of time over the shred era.. .
Mystical musician.
A magician as much as a musician.
He was for real actually into cults and shit too
Two timeless and beautiful Irish traditional ballads in this medley: “She Moved Through the Fair” and “Black Waterside.”
The guitar arrangements didn't spring into existence from the traditional ballads. They are the work of uncredited guitarists Davey Graham, and Bert Jansch respectively. Page stole it and then did a school boy imitation.
@@billbaggins1688 He thought Bert Jansch was using DADGAD but Black water side was in dropped D. I think he could have made something better and less controversial by taking inspiration from Davy Graham and Bert Jansch but doing his own thing. As it is he has murdered a brilliant arrangement of Black Waterside by Bert Jansch.
@@billbaggins1688- Yes. This is a cover. He plays it well but yeah…….a Davy Graham and Burt Jansch mashup. Nothing here is original.
@@billbaggins1688 - You're here, you've obviously heard Page's performance here. Page is definitely giving his own interpretation & redefining the initial pieces.
Yes, it's sad (at minimum) that he didn't formally credit Jansch or Graham.
However, he is an excellent guitarist with a superior arrangement of his own. Just because some don't like that he stole from them doesn't diminish Page's superior playing skills & improvement of the two pieces. He obviously served to popularize them more than Jansch or Graham combined - which is a testimony to Page's ability to reach a far wider audience over multiple generations & decades of time.
Page has accomplished much more than a mere "school boy imitation" here - those are in abundance ad infinitum ad nausem by far lesser guitarists than Page - ironically, imitating Page himself.
The originals aren't necessarily superior just because they preceded Page -
Jansch - ruclips.net/video/f5Gcu0Sv6lk/видео.htmlsi=td4AiKRzod3GsEh5
Graham - ruclips.net/video/PrWGwdsYifw/видео.htmlsi=a1SXH8jp54GqHBCH
Literal "Schoolboy imitation" of Page - ruclips.net/video/M_v-ykiySRc/видео.htmlsi=Fz-pOtcE5tZP7KWE
Hey thanks
He never plays the song exactly the same way twice.
Of the living R&R great ax men, I find Jimmy to have the most subtle ouch.
But then ferocity!!
I love it when he plays this live on the acoustic! So good!
It sounds like the tune of old Eastern flavour .
Holy crap that was amazing!!! Never seen him do this on an acoustic. Wish the video quality was better but oh well
You may want to search for Black waterside by Bert Jansch, and then wonder how jimmy got away with stealing pretty much most of his arrangement lol
@@killianw4990 Some people play almost note for note Bert's version and they prefer dadgad, I dont know why the different tuning should make any difference.
The song isn't an original, but his guitar accompaniment is.
Jimmy's version is an instrumental and makes no references to the melody, so obviously what he "stole" was not the original folk song, but Bert's original guitar accompaniment.
I also think morally there is a very big difference between folkies swapping songs at the pub, and a rockstar worth hundreds of millions of dollars nicking the arrangement of a relatively unknown guitarists without ever mentioning him. I don't know about the legality of it, but morally I think its pretty fucked up.
@@killianw4990 What's more fucked up is that, as you can guess by reading this comment section, people think that this all came from Page "genius".
Which is understandable, since he changed the title and never mentioned Bert, thus giving the impression that this is his own original composition.
@@Sendobren the song is very old and was already in the public domain. He didn't steal anything. It's Page's take on an old folk song.
@@timothyriley4209 Did you make at least make an effort to read my argument or...? Its true that its a folk song, but his behaviour was scummy as fuck. First he changed the title, giving the impression that it was his own composition, second he made no reference to the original folk song, what he did is just make his own version of Bert's guitar accompaniment. Might be legal, but its pretty disgusting.
James Patrick Page is number # 1 ! for eternity !
Legend. I can't think of anyone that inspired more guitarists.
Steve Vai agrees with you.
Jimi Hendrix?
Davey Summer!...its lovely
Pure magic just magnificent
Thanks for your effort. Sounds great, and the distorted video is kind of trippy if you're not too picky about it. Those who enjoy Jimmy's Eastern-influenced acoustic guitar work might like a vid I just posted. Rosetta West - Yallah.
Let's face it. No one will ever compare to Jimmy Page......NO ONE!
Except for Bert Jansch (see Blackwaterside) and Davey Graham (see She moved through the bizarre).
I love his playing style, it's so different from everything I've seen.
music to get high by.
Music that makes you high
I think there's maybe 56 pixels total in each frame. But WOW! He's improvising through this whole video!
Damn. This boy's got skills!
Wow what a guitar player
Wish the tracking on that VHS tape was fine tuned but Hey, thanks for the effort and bringing this to, us, who love Jimmy. Love the Gibson hummingbird. Beautiful guitar.
J200 not humming bird.
That tracking line is on the master tape of this video as it was damaged during storage by the BBC. This is the best version that you’re gonna get as all copies of this tape will have that distortion.
greatest J. P.
So young and so good! Love those middle eastern lines! 🙂
Looked up the word amazing in the Webster's Dictionary and there was a picture from this performance
That was worth the click plus, thanks.
Listen to Davey Graham's She Moves Though The Fair. That is white summer. Listen to Bert Jansch's Black Waterside. That is Black Mountainside. Great playing of other people's arrangements of traditional centuries old Irish folk songs.
@D D Jansch's work in this case are his own arrangements of classic centuries old Celtic tunes. Arrangements cannot be protected. The original is in the public domain. A tip of the hat would be nice, but Jansch has no legal recourse here.
He might have no legal recourse, but Page just stole jansch arrangement with the signature lick and all and never thought to mention it, just as if it were his own. I find it pretty reprehensible, especially considering the level of fame that Page had compared to Bert's
Get over it. Its a traditional folk song and its not arranged in the exact same way. I can think of ten other famous bands with more egregious examples copying but its never mentioned because its somehow cool and trendy to tear down Zep.
Guitarrista majestuoso !!!
My favorite guy that plays like that!
Love it!!!
Great Bert Jansch and Dave Graham
Please no shit talking about one of the Greatest of all time
I recall him saying everything he wrote he did on acoustic first. I wonder if there is a version of this without the blues? Where was this?
No matter he is the greatest in my mind. Thank you so much.
Look for bert jansch blackwaterside, he didn't write this arrangement at all
thank you for this
Jesus I remember I had this on my MySpace wall for years… simpler times 🥲
The best.
I’m surprised no one has tried to clean up this video!
Well done, Jake, on the syncing
minchia..... !!!!!!!!!!! il Jimmy !!!!ce ne sono di migliori , ma non so perche' resta il mio chitarrista del cuore !!!
Celtic Moracan.
Jimmy the Wizard of Stringed Things.
The Master 🙂
Jimmy is the MAN!
Could sombody possibly please put their digital expertise to getting id of the broken video image? It is quite appealing but Julie Felix and Jimmy Page requires as a testament to a historical moment of a musical moment and enjoyment
This is really good, thanks. I still think though that The Royal Albert Hall version on the Dano is better.
That's like saying that every movie stole the Gale. Irish folk music That's from last of the mohicans To almost every other movie scene. What's the saying imitation is the greatest form of flattery What's the saying imitation is the greatest form of flattery. We all learn from those who come before us.
Don't imitate innovate..
Wow, just Wow
I'd definitely sell my soul to have that much talent and skill.
Stupendous
I may be wrong but on Zep One this was played by JPJ and a player on an Indian Tabla .
I've been trying to nail black mountain on the guitar..., I'll leave it to the expert. Blinding stuff!
Watch this video and get a headache! My eyes are burning🤯
Sometimes, I wonder if Jimmy actually sold his soul for this ability.
Same question to the Stones...
Zeppelin made a deal with the devil for sure
@@workingtheworld68 no question. Their satanic majesty's request
So did Plant and he’s starting to look like it.
That's what he should have been doing after Led Zep
this is where he fits into the grand scheme,
Page is playing, so kindly refrain
Yourself about commenting on poor
Video quality .
I like this arangment
I really wish Jimmy would give credit where credit is due ugh. This is "She Moved Through The Faire" by Davy Graham, with bits taken from "Blackwaterside" by Bert Jansch. Yes, it's a great cover, and he added his own spin, but would it kill this guy to give some credit?
These are traditional musics...
No lyrics required, just licks and tricks.
GOAT.....
Bert Jansch was a definite influence, to say the least.
He may not be the best electric player, he is my all time electric player but when comes down to acoustic, with his different tunings he is the best. Let me see Eric Clapton play acoustic like this, nothing a against Clapton or Beck but they can't play acoustic like this.
Whose better than page on electric than? Not many. As most people seem to be deluded into believing otherwise, music is an Art , not a sport.
One day, AI video editing or some other software magic perhaps available already will be able to recreate a beautiful version of visual part of this performance. Right now we can just watch it with our eyes closed and imagine being in the audience. Good enough for me.
2nd best guitar player to ever walk the earth after jimie Hendrix being number one lol
Davy Graham sends his regards.
can some one please tell me if there are tabs for this?
Ohh yeah i forgot to mention JPJ played this on a Sitar .
💜💜💜🎸🎸🎸
Playing the J-200 he borrowed from his friend, Jim Sullivan.
Most likely the guitar he used for "Ramble On".
Not ramble on but 1st album
@@mikelanzafame3401 I always thought he used a Harmony Sovereign acoustic on that first album.
@@JD0124 J200 on the first album. the Harmony was used on Stairway though
🌹♥️🇧🇻
I wonder if there was an agreement between Jimmy and Bert that allowed Jimmy to steal this from Bert?? I'm talking about Black Mountain Slide.
You cannot copyright a musical arrangement of a traditional folks song. White Summer is also centuries old. Check Davey Graham She Moved Through The Fair. Both Graham and Jansch were/are pissed about lack of credit for arrangement.
And to be sure There all copies of Beethoven Bahc.
What kind of guitar is that?
Looks like a Gibson Hummingbird. Beautiful guitar, isn’t it? It’s a full bodied guitar and has a big sound to it.
Gibson j-200
J 200...and if you can afford one nowadays well...your doing well in life...
Lot of commenters fawning over Page's playing on this. He's sawing away in DADGAD with a lot of droning strings; not really fingerpicking at all. Look, I adore Led Zeppelin, but Jimmy is just aping things he copped off of Bert Jansch and Davey Graham. You want fingerpicking, check out Bert, Davey, John Fahey, Glenn Jones, Richard Thompson, or Nathan Salsburg.
Davey and Bert would be....proud?
40th like mine!
Yep, let the fingers do the picking.
Esto sí
AI could restore this piece of video history.
why is the screen all efed????
🌟🎸🎼🎶😉
WHAOUHH!!!!
DADGAD turned
Father Time
ça fait mal...
I love Zepplin, grew up listening to them- love Clapton, Beck, Hendrix, etc., etc.- but all these arguments about who is or was "the best" guitarist are just ridiculous and silly. It's purely subjective, there's no answer to that question. Page was the best at playing the style he played, playing with the band he played with- no one else could've done that. But you can say the exact same thing about Hendrix, about Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, the list goes on and on. Most ppl say Hendrix because he's the guy all the legends say they think was the best but- really it was only a handful of guys who said that and, they all played pentatonic blues just like Hendrix so- of course to them, he was the best. And if you like blues and blues based classic rock, he may still seem like the best guitarist to you. But- ppl who don't care for that kind of music would disagree with you- they would choose someone like Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, or some other virtuoso style guitarist. To me- the best player- probably Django Reinhardt, Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, or David Gilmour. But see then I'm leaving out Randy Rhodes, the reason I play guitar. There's no such thing as the best.
Agreed but the one thing page had that nobody else did was his level of creativity. Just listen to the diversity of the songs on each of the 8 Led Zeppelin studio albums then listen to the live versions….nuff said!