Best Home Defense Load - Beretta 1301
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Picking the right load for home defense is no easy task. This video aid you in selecting the perfect load for your situation. You can watch all the videos you want, but you’ll never know how a load will perform out of your shotgun until you try it for yourself.
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Dude, I was cracking up at the range scene where you were trying to talk over random gunfire. I have the same problem! They NEVER run out of ammo when your camera is rolling!
It’s remarkable. The fountain of eternal ammo lays on the other side of the berm.
Post more lol
I'm glad you added the point that every shotgun is different. Just like rifles, someone else's experience is a good guide, but not neccesarily an absolute.
“But I want you to do the work for me!”
@@OreGear and the same people asking to be told what to buy will call a channel a "shill"
No kidding! But only if you tell them something they don’t want to hear.
I Like The FEDERAL FLIGHT
CONTROL 00-Buckshot &
BRENNEKE BLACK MAGIC Slug's...
That Hornady was impressively tight.
I was surprised how tight even the low recoil Hornady was.
Great work as always man! Never really been a shotgun guy myself for home defense but you presented each of your arguments logically, and most importantly why you justified your decisions based on your specific situation rather than some arbitrary "standard."
Thanks man. I think shotguns are dumb, but if you’re going to use one, you should know what it’s going to do.
The ending to the video was hilarious but it was informative
I patterned at same distances --- Federal Flight Control 00 8-pellet was the sweet spot, so hard to find these days though
The 9th pellet in the Flight control 00 9pellet always seemed to go just outside my selected target
So true
That S&B 12 pellet #1 buck was about half the price of every other buckshot a couple of months ago. No complaints here!
A very good load. That was my runner up
The S&B #1 12 pellet doesn't cycle through the Benelli M4, and it seems its a tad longer than 2.75 inch, I can only get 4+1 in my 5+1. Pretty annoyed TBH. Thinking of getting an A300 or 1301 because of it. But any other 2.75 inch 00 or slug cycle like a dream. It's definitely the round not he gun. Any thoughts @@OreGear
I'd go with the low recoil rounds for that situation at those distances. I'd want to practice more with the lower recoil rounds as well.
Birdshot isn't ineffective if at the right distance. A homeowner shot a home intruder at 10 feet in the leg with birdshot and since it didn't have anytime to spread it was basically a slug that hit the intruder.
I do have a variety of 00 and #4 Buck but I also have this other type of "defense" ammo from Winchester called Defender. It's a slug with three 00 Buck. When shooting it out of my 18.5" Mossberg 590A1, it actually gets a fairly consistent group at about 10 yds where the slug is dead center and the three 00 buck are at 12, 3 and 6 o'clock around the slug impact. It's rated at 1150 fps.
Important video for sure! Most people never think to pattern buckshot but there's obviously a big difference between the various loads. If I were to buy a semi-auto shottie, it'd be the 1301 for sure!
I’m exceedingly happy with it for sure
For center mass accuracy; The #1 buck and Hornaday had clear advantages. I wouldn't worry too much about recoil being a criteria for choice. You want accuracy and effevtiveness for home defense, not comfort!
Honestly this something I've never thought about but I probably should have. For a home defense shotgun that is. Other weapons yes you have to think about the ammunition because you don't want to over penetrate and go through your wall your neighbors wall and their neighbors wall.
Guess I was wrong.
Thanks for a great video. After considering the target structures for a one trigger pull threat stop and point of impact variability, a four to twelve inch pattern of buck shot may work best. Beyond a 12 inch buck shot pattern a slug would be preferred. My ideal is an eight inch pattern at fifteen yards.
I like critical defense the best. Group not too big not too small and high velocity.
Nice testing and results, thanks for doing this.
Dude is hammering away isn’t he! 😂
Thank you much for a quite comprehensive video!!!! As you stated, there are always variations but this is excellent fundamental information to select ammo with!!!! Side note, you are a very good presenter!! THX!!!
I really liked this vid. Not enough love for the defensive shotgun testing.
It’s falling out of favor
I went with the American gunner because the group was decently tight but I think you have a point in going for the widest spread possible. It also gives you more room for error if you miss you can still land a pellet or two
Federal Flight Control,
*** ALL THE WAY ***
My guess for what you chose probably going to be the S&B number 1 buck it had a nice tight grouping at 7 and what I think is a good spread at 12.
The #1 was definitely runner up
Flight control, Low recoil CD, Low recoil federal, CD, then Federal
Great job buddy, saw your poll and thought I haven’t seen anything from you in a long time.
Thank you!
I am REALLY interested in that Hornady 8 pellet 00 buck low recoil. That had an oddly tight pattern.
Could be different in your gun. You shotgun could love it and pattern it well.
#1 buck for the win.......
Had a buddy have a negligent discharge in a house with some steel shot(#2 or 3 i think)after duck hunting. Went through a hollow core interior door and 1 layer of 1/2 drywall then stopped in exterior plywood and lap siding. Left a fist size hole. Dont under estimate the bigger birdshot at in house distance.
Birdshot is for birds
@OreGear I agree. Was only sharing a real-life event that pertains to your video. 00 buck will win every time over bird shot. 00 buck over penetration on missed shots should not be overlooked.
You should try the Hornady Varmint #4 with versatile wad
According to federal the x2 projectiles split into two, creating upto 18 wound channels. I'm curious how in ballistics gel it would look vs the hornady critical defense, being that the hornady critical defense has a 1600 muzzle velocity.
I prefer the Hornady loads with my maverick 88 the flight control has a bad flyer but we know no shotgun patterns the same
Im going to check out the "Buck-Kicker” choke for my langdontactical 1301 18.5” 12GA. It is designed for 00 Buck for 2-3/4” from 0-40 yards to hit a 18” wide human torso. My defensive loadings presently are Hornady 00 buck with black aces tactical 00 buck for range duty. Then the plan is to test some warwolf loadings once they come back in-stock to use as a defesnive loading.
Officer Gregg had a great video on the buck kicker linked in the description.
That critical defense is really moving. 1600fps is fast for 00 buck loads. Did you notice any recoil difference?
I don’t understand the comment you made about using the IC choke because you want to be able to shoot any type of ammo. Slugs can be fired through any choke. Unless you’re referring to using steel shot
You can also drive 10,000 miles between oil changes. That doesn’t mean the manufacturer is going to recommend it or that you’re going to get the best performance out of it.
@@OreGear the manufacturers literally write “rifled slugs can be fired through any choke” right on the box
My shotgun is crying in the corner, it can’t believe you had the nerve to call it a snowflake. But I feel like you may be right!
Great video!
It’s ok. Words can’t hurt them
Hornaday 12ga 300 Grain Slug
💯 👍 😅
How did you mount a sling? I can’t figure it out it only has one QD insert
I used a Blue Force Gear A2 sling adapter at the rear and a MLOK QD slot on the handguard.
My favorite has allways been 4 Buck.
A great option as well. I would have included it in this video, but I didn’t have any locally.
Well done. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I am not well versed in shotguns, I recently read that #4 buckshot is good for home defense… I look forward to comments?
#4 isn’t a bad choice. The Federal Force X2 I tested is also designed to break up on impact so it’s better for walls.
@@OreGear thanks!, you make informative videos 🇺🇸
I'd this the same for mod 2
Great video...For my application I have been looking for Flight Control 8 pellet for years...I know I will not find it at 139.00 and free shipping ever again....but if i could 250.00 or lower a case..250 rounds if you have any info would be great full...By the way do you still teach a defense shotgun class?
I don’t teach any classes but I’ve been looking to take a shotgun class myself. They’re hard to find.
My damn 1301 just runs and runs and runs. Cant say that about most semi auto shotguns.
I’ve being trying to make it fail, but so far I’ve been thwarted by Beretta.
@@OreGearIt is very reliable and fun for the range, glad I saved for a Beretta 1301 instead of getting a Turknelli.
💥Love my A-300 Tactical.!!!💥 🤔
Benelli supernova tactical number 4 BUCK....
Well made video. Little long on the talking points
Great info, but maybe save the commentary or review aspect of the video for home. I dont know anything about editing videos but im sure you can do a voice over or something of the information with shots of the ammo, targets, etc. Love the content but to be honest I was getting upset at you getting upset about people shooting guns at a shooting range lol. Keep up the good work sir.
If I only use slugs is that a safe home defense? or is buck shot the way to go. my house is a duplex and is essentially a hallways of rooms, mine being the back, I wouldn't want to hurt anyone in my family could you educate me on that if you don't mind?
I would not recommend slugs for use inside the home. Your rounds will very likely go through each and every wall of your house and your neighbors house.
@@OreGear Thank you for your feedback, I knew slugs are powerful guys, but I didn't know they could keep going through so much. thank you. I will invest in buckshots.
@@Raylen23Slugs are for bears or other large animals.
Why the longest distance? The most common distance is what you want to optimize your load to.
If I know what it’s doing at 7 yards, I can extrapolate backwards. It’s pretty simple.
Because you need to know what it's going to do and where it's going. If you use it to hunt it's even more important.
Why don’t you just edit out parts of the video at the range?
I use a 6.5in 556 inside my house because it tumbles and doesn’t over penetrate.
I hope this is satire
Ummm
Oof
★★★★★
your doing a video at a range you have to know peoples fired there gun at the range right lol
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