Physician Assistant Analysis: Jordan Peterson & Benzodiazepines
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
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A Physician Assistant and Medical Advisory Board Member at the nonprofit, Benzodiazepine Information Coalition (www.benzoinfo.com), gives commentary on benzodiazepines and in response to the February 2020 Peterson Family Update.
Timestamps:
0:32 disclaimer
0:57 low dose clonazepam (generic Klonopin) and length of prescription
2:17 prescribed physical dependency, paradoxical reactions and withdrawal
8:26 akathisia and suicidal
9:37 failed treatment, tapering and micro-tapering
12:33 emergency detox in Russia, detox centers, cold turkey
15:19 pneumonia, fluoroquinolone, ICU, informed consent, disabling withdrawal syndromes
17:51 physiological damage, recovery, protracted withdrawal syndromes, iatrogenic
20:51 physical dependence vs addiction, media misrepresentation, false sense of security
25:04 hoping for a full recovery, timeline for healing, lucky to be alive, not just withdrawal, death
27:08 conclusion
Link to Peterson Family Update - February 2020: • Video
Potency/equivalence chart of the various benzodiazepines ("low doses" often aren't that low): www.benzo.org....
Paradoxical Effects: benzo.org.uk/m...
Akathisia Information: missd.co
The Ashton Manual on why updosing/reinstatement sometimes fails (scroll down to the "Reinstatement, Updosing" section): benzo.org.uk/a...
Why Prescribed Benzo Patients Shouldn't Go To Detox or Rehab: www.benzoinfo....
Fluoroquinolone Antibiotics Displace Benzodiazepines from their Binding Sites (see #3): benzo.org.uk/m...
FDA document on terminology/definitions, physical dependence and addiction (they are not synonymous): www.fda.gov/me...
For info on safer tapering, Nicole also cofounded ‘The Withdrawal Project’: withdrawal.the...
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Thank you. Spot on.
Mikhaila Peterson firstly, sorry your dad has to go through this, it's horrific and at 28 mths off today and still non functioning and homebound with symptoms I know only too well his pain. And the lack of knowledge, validation and complete ignorance from the medical community is nothing short of disgusting.
However, we all hope that when this ends for your Dad that he takes a stand and uses his experience, knowledge, position and power to fight for all of us that don't have these tools at our disposal as this catastrophe extends to anti-depressants as well and is affecting thousands upon thousands world wide. After recovery, he now has an opportunity to make a difference in people's lives that will be bigger and can be his legacy above and beyond all of his life's work prior to this combined.
I hope all of us to recover from this.....yesterday!
Mikhaila, best wishes to your dad and your family. Have you checked out benzobuddies.org? You or your dad can ask questions and get support there anonymously.
Your family is in my prayers.
wow... how wonderful to hear from you Mikhaila! I think of you all daily and pray for your father's full recovery. We need you both.
Missing your dad. I think of him and your family each and every day. I went to see him twice last year. Lost 45 pounds thanks to him and you. I love your dad like the father I never had. Loved his books. I still watch his videos. I wish him a speedy recovery. Happy to hear mom is doing better. Keep doing what you are doing. You are a wonderful and brave daughter for your dad. 💓💓thank you.
Wow. This woman did an absolutely fantastic, concise, ultra-professional, expert job of explaining and clarifying the complex issues involved. I only see her first name: Nicole. Nicole, you did a spectacular public service with your explanation! Wow. You only realize how difficult it is to explain and teach properly when you see someone do it like Nicole. She's one in a million.
(I happen to enjoy Jordan Peterson a lot, but I've always been puzzled by his uncritical acceptance of neurotoxic psychiatric pharma. I expect that in the future he'll let the public know his thoughts on all of this. I wish him well. I wouldn't take psychiatric pharma, or allow any of my loved ones to take any of it, if you paid me.)
What if they needed it?
I agree. I was very impresses with her knowledge, presentation, and compassion. Kudos to you!
@@mikimiyazaki Needing it is OK however using it long term is not. Similar to Oxycontin. Short term is fine...should never be used long term.
What if it's been prescribed by family doctor and you do not realize it is psychiatric pharma...this is what's happened to my wife...already 8 months from too fast,forced tapering snd still in hell. If we knew it all before stopping ordered by doctor...:(((
During this time when so many horrible people are trying to capitalize on Doctor Peterson's tragedy or worse yet, take the opportunity to trash him while he's sick, thank you for this very informative and compassionate video.
His pain was often palpable when he talked about difficult things. I hope he is in a better place now, away from the limelight for a while.
@Karen Brock fair enough. but people beating up on him now is unspeakably inhumane
@Karen Brock Dr. Peterson didn't have a drug addiction he had a physical drug dependency there is a huge difference, you either didn't watch the above video to its completion or you didn't understand the information provided therein.
@Karen Brock did you even watch either video?
@Karen Brock Do you take medicine? ? That wasn't even my point. My point was that some people are delighting in his suffering and that's evil.
Great job. So many people are finding the information they need now because of Dr. Peterson's story. Whatever your feelings about him personally, he is doing so much good by being open about his benzo injury. All benzo warriors deserve our full support ❤
Benzos brains ! You helped me so much. Thank you
@@DavidWaeldervideo that makes me so happy to hear!
Benzo Brains Hopefully, Peterson will create a platform to inform people about what he went through, plus info on psychiatrists and and how little they really know about long term use of benzos.
Benzo Brains I agree, Dr Peterson is showing us how imperfect he is, just like the rest of us. I wish more Professionals would be as honest.
Karma.
I am not going into EVERYTHING. However after years on Klonopin I developed POTS like symptoms and could not even get out of bed, lost 80 lb. I had "panic attacks" one hour before and after each dose. 2 Years later after a too fast tapper off in 1 week in a mental intuition I am doing way better but still have a long way to go. Damage done not recognized by doctors as they try to prescribe me more crap that makes me feel worse despite me actually improving slowly. I no longer bother going to the doctors. Today I managed to ride my bike 1 mile.
Well done ! I really appreciate you sharing. Thank you
fabulous that you ride your bike; that is a great therapy. My veteran pal was pressured to take Clonazepam; threatened with a reduction of his pension by the powers that should not be... if he did not comply. he had symptoms that were frightful and they always said this was his ptsd... my own doc disapproved of benzos. .
I wish we would have heard this 5 years ago. A "Benzo Expert" at Aventura Psychiatric hospital in Aventura Florida, took my Mother off of 3mgs of Klonapin cold turkey and she started going crazy and I asked him when she was going to get better and he said that she's already finished withdrawing. This was three days after she stopped. He said her hysteria was her real personality. She suffered a major hemorragic stroke not too long after this. I wish that I could put that man in jail.
@Love One another she's crippled for life. Half paralyzed. I think we're beyond our statute of limitations but I'd like to look into it.
@@bethlubisch923 i feel for you dude ive gone through this myself. i had doctors say yeah no problem just taper quickly. i have no effin CLUE who told them that. but they are flat out wrong and need to be put in jail and sued from such carrless care of becoming a doctor. they need to learn how to hire doctors who talk to people and understand them rather than in 2 minutes kick you out the door. i know there dirty tricks and carelessness and to be a doctor you need to be balanced mentally... not someone who gets flustered and ahead of themself and doesnt give pateients the help they need especially after knowing they have been on a terrible drug! i hope things improve for you. there is also ways to rebuild your moms damaged nervous system. look into dr amens work he does have a good suppliment aiding in restoring damage to brain. not just him but he sells a good one called brain and body power max which has helped tons of people neurologically. keto could be a great option to because that diet is a mood stabalizer in itself the keytones increase gaba and seratonin naturally. check out your options ive seen people recover from bad damage and get there life back
Did she ever get better? My mom is going through the same thing
I just came home from a therapist. Nothing like being gaslighted by even therapists. Thats what it is... "prove you where damaged by the meds". Meanwhile they make statements like "that's your true personality" when withdrawing. LOL prove that is my personality quack.
@@bethlubisch923 This happened to me. i am still on them 15 years later. I've tried to stop 6 times and hallucinated and ended up in the hospital twice, almost arrested, all because I tried to stop klonopin. I am now told that I have to take it for life. half of the time I can't remember my name. I'm 62 and terrified of dementia because of this. I actually went to rehab to get off and I lasted 17 days. There is no pleasant feeling from them, But within fifteen days I go from being nervous and sleepless to hallucinating and a raving lunatic. They had to strap me to the bed and I do not remember anything. The dr. said that it takes years to get off it at all possible. I'm sorry that happened to her, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
This video is absolutely out standing. Very well put together and every word the complete truth.
From a fellow benzodiazepine soul walking the journey back home.
I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy.
Thank you for everything.❤️
People really need to start waking up.
I pray they get to see this an the lid blows on all this and what the doctors & big pHARMA are doing to human beings.
God bless us all on this journey ✨❤️
I was in tears thru the entire thing!! It is without question the most important, powerful, accurate, all encompassing statement of truth on this topic I have ever heard. I am sharing it everywhere ! I even made a Twitter account just for this purpose! Keep going. We are not forgotten!!!
We're pharma's wives!
no ur just a loser sorry
Nathan Ashley wtf is wrong with you? Who says ugly things like what you just said? You’ve got real problems. Seek professional help, so the ripple effect doesn’t cast a dark shadow over everyone that has contact with you.
@@nathanashley2693 oh look i found the real loser omegalol
God help this man recover and return him to good health and happiness. Amen
If an intelligent psychologist can be duped into taking a drug and a dose he thinks is OK, how vulnerable are average patients without professional knowledge of pharmaceuticals?
This situation with Jordan Peterson is a disgrace and a tragedy.
@Lisa Lotek Not just his followers; his opponents as well.
What kills me is, how did the psychiatrist who prescribed the drug not know he was putting his patient in harm's way? I think a lot of the reality of Dr. Peterson's situation is being deflected by his "paradoxical reaction" ...like the problem is that for some obscure reason, his own body caused all the trouble he's endured. That's not the case! He had the paradoxical reaction, but then could not discontinue taking the drug. It was all the horrors that appeared upon attempts at discontinuation that was so problematic.
@ Noelle: Your comment parallels one I was just about to make...
How could someone as smart as Peterson think that enduring serenity, a "good mood", or the like... can or even SHOULD be had from a pill?
@Buckshot 87 I think the "duped" component is that neither Dr. Peterson, nor you, nor I were ever told by the prescribing doctor that "this drug will be profoundly helpful to you... for a while. After that, it will cause 'rebound anxiety' greater than what you're experiencing now, and when you try to get off of it, you'll potentially experience unspeakable, unimaginable horrors. Still wanna take it?" That is INFORMED CONSENT, and that's what the bill in Massachusetts wants to insist upon for patients.
Jordan Peterson got no professional knowledge about pharmaceuticals. Psychiatrists get such training not psychologists.
My addiction to Ativan nearly destroyed my life. I didn't even realize I was addicted because I was "only" taking 1-3 mg per day. I took this drug for 6 years. I attempted suicide in 2015. My son was not at all supportive and removed himself from my life. I immediately stopped taking all medications and have been medication free for 4 years. My son and I began talking again 2 years ago. I have come a long way in the past 4 years. The irony for me is that listening to Jordan Peterson lectures and podcasts have helped me immensely. I have the utmost respect for this man. I pray that he has a full recovery and is able to continue his great work. He has helped so many of us. Thank you Jordan. May God be with you.
Hi,. I am interested in what the ATivan was doing that nearly destroyed your life? What were your reactions to it? Thank you.
Same (or at least very similar), Paula. Klonopin (clonazepam) for me, only 1 mg daily for a fewmonths. The taper was nearly a year. That sounds crazy, even to me, but the long taper was necessary for me. JBP helped me during the long recovery! His lectures were something positive and motivating, hopeful. I kept hearing his words about 'voluntarily exposing myself to that which scares me' and doing so. (My brain felt damaged, everything was over-stimulating, driving on a busy road was overwhelming, for instance. Freaking nightmare.) I have to say, I've been surprised JBP never had a patient/client who struggled with these hideous benzos, that he didn't know. My heart goes out to him. Glad to hear you recovered too and that things are getting sorted out.
Congratulations Paula, I empathize and have great respect for people who have managed to discontinue The seemingly subtle effects of benzos takes hold in a way that’s very hard to imagine unless experienced.
Is Ativan the same thing as Lorazepam?
Gareth Howard Davies yes
I'm now seventeen post Klonopin WD after an initial thirteen month taper. I was on the aforementioned drug for over seventeen years along with a multitude of other RX drugs...I now take zero rx drugs. In closing I fully support this video and applaud people like her know speak the TRUTH.👊
I pray you are doing well
Congratulations!
Thank you from the bottom of my heart! I have been trying to find the right resource in order to help convince a family member that these drugs are doing more harm than good. She has been taking prescribed benzos in addition to other psych meds for close to six years, and I don’t need to go into details. Once I found the Benzo Buddies sight, and now your site, I am convinced I finally have found a resource that will help her. Thank you for the gift of hope that you have provided to me today!
I'm praying for healing, for folks who are walking thru this awful battle 👑
Thank you so much for explaining this. It's been 6 years for me with no end in sight. Now I don't feel so alone and insane, because all my doctors just called me a drug addict or labeled me psychosomatic, which is infuriating. The ONLY reason I am alive today is because I found our Heavenly Father through this ordeal. I had my suicide plan ready to go for the next time I could not withstand the pain, but praise our Father in Heaven I will make it through with His help.
My prior faith,& Jesus helped me through the withdrawal, over a decade without phsyc meds & the few people who know me , before and after see me as 100% better, without the meds.
They labeled me the same
PLEASE HAVE A PODCAST WITH DR PETERSON WHEN HE GETS BETTER!!!!!!
This
Thanks to Mikhaila, her husband Andre, and Dr Peterson himself it looks like the world will continue to be blessed by this man and his family for some time to come, thank God. ruclips.net/video/GzRbEMzr0k8/видео.html
agreed. id watch it a few times.
Simply won't happen. Peterson has no interest in calling out the Wall Street companies who push this vile poison.
It would call into question his whole pro-capitalism/anti-regulation philosophy. Just think of it. The man ran to Eastern Society (Russia) to fix a problem caused by Western Society (Big Pharma). Peterson's touts the West as the greatest thing imaginable, yet that same system fried his brain in a barbaric manner with NO accountability whatsoever. His brain will forever be toast.
@@keithkieran Well from the looks of it, the people who take this poison are screwed beyond belief and the makers of the drug are abundantly blessed and will NOT be held accountable.
How about you pray that God evens the score because Peterson sure as hell isn't gonna do it.
Physician to Patient: "Well, perhaps the simplest and quickest way to deal with your issues is for me to prescribe for you a drug called Xanax, a tranquilizer of the benzodiazepine family. Have you ever heard of Valium? Yes? Well, it's like Valium but twenty times stronger. Anyway, if you take it your discomfort will go away instantly, and that can feel like a blessed relief. However, if I prescribe this drug for a long period of time, anything beyond a couple of weeks, you run the risk of 'rebound anxiety' which is anxiety greater than what causes you to take a drug in the first place, and more importantly, the risk of experiencing a hellish, multi-year endless nightmare called 'Benzodiazepine Withdrawal Syndrome' should you ever try to go off the drug. In other words: quick fix, but potentially unimaginable hell ever trying to stop taking the drug. ...Now you're capable of 'informed consent' about whether to take the Xanax or not."
What doctor has ever even mentioned the possible harm when first prescribing a benzo to a patient? That's right, none. They don't offer informed consent.
benzodiazepine = Xanax?
@@danielfulop If you're asking whether Xanax is a benzodiazepine, then: "Yes, Xanax is a benzodiazepine. So are Ativan, Klonopin, and other prescribed drugs."
I have been offered informed consent in the past for benzos, thankfully! I wish they went more into detail as she did, but they did warn me.
@@brookenebergall4171 I'm shocked! I've never heard of anybody being warned about the potential problems with benzodiazepines.
@@monadyne yes, that's what I was asking, thank you :) I don't know much about meds
Akathisia is like having an exorcism that is magnified by 1000.
It is literally the worst experience on the face of this earth. It made me want to drive my car at full speed onto the path of an oncoming train.
I have to go through that experience at some stage in order to get off the drugs I was prescribed for CPTSD.
I’m dreading it.
BB God help you, bless you and protect you through that process, and beyond. I pray for you and your full success getting off those drugs, very sincerely from my heart. I really wish you the very best in life: great peace, much love and infinite happiness. You can do it!
I was put on Xanax to counteract akathisia. It worked for me. I then had to come off the Xanax but I didn't find that too difficult. Apparently, according to my family, I was out of my tree when I was on the Xanax but I had no clue. Might be an option for you? (I know this might seem counter intuitive, swapping one serious drug for another, but it worked out in the end). Best of luck to you!
U ok ?
@@idesigncutethings2196 Not just benzos , ssri’s can cause it as well .
When I feel like a caged animal
I am in tears!! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for this outstanding video! You covered every aspect perfectly!! STOP IATROGENIC SUFFERING !!!!
Very well said. The suffering this condition causes is beyond what anyone can imagine. Only we, the survivors, will totally understand the breath and depth of the unbearable pain. I feel JP has basically given up trying to explain his position on what happened for the same reason we all do. Nobody gets it and if they say they do, they really only get about 20% of it.
Hi, are you talking about Ativan? I am tapering benzo and looking for some information, another person’s experience and trying to survive somehow, although it feels like a lost battle. I’d appreciate your answer
Yes; my veteran friend suffered terribly; he passed away recently and i believe it had to do with decades of being pressured to take a lot of meds including benzos; my own doctor did not approve of this at all.
Somebody gave a poison to my Internet dad Dr. Jordan B Peterson. I am so pissed off at the moment! How can this even be legal?! 🤬
I pray for him. I support him with all my heart.
I really venerate him too.
Dr. Peterson took the pills. The info has always been available to him.
Should not be happening to anyone!!! Pharma is passing out poisons. Not Testing..... Depopulation Agenda 2030.
@@veenapaulson4934 WARRIOR..
Your "internet dad?"" Geez, that's really creepy.
Thanks for recording this and addressing the issues with benzodiazepine.
Excellent Video. I wish I had been taught all this in PA School. I wish at least one of my healthcare providers had known this. I had akathisia for over 6 years with multiple severe symptoms, I would not wish this on anyone. I was abruptly stopped from Klonopin 1mg that I took only at night, only as prescribed, after a back injury, by Shand's in Florida. I was accused of Drug Abuse and the drug was abruptly discontinued. A slow taper is the only Safe Way off these drugs. It is unfortunate that Physicians/Healthcare workers are unaware of how these drugs affect our CNS and how to withdraw people from it. Hopefully this man's suffering will bring this to the forefront for others. I hope the man makes it. I will be 8 years off Klonopin in March 2020. I am hoping to be able to return to work later this year.
So easy for me to break down in tears reading all of these comments. I am 10.5 months post taper off a benzo. I cold turkeyed another one 1.5 years ago - totally ignorant of the risks. My god. How does this not kill us??? It is an unfathomable torture with no relief. I had akathisia all of 2017 and into mid 2018 when it finally dissipated. The layers of various intense symptoms have also reduced over the years so I am far more hopeful as time moves forward. I hope so much that 2020 will bring noticeable healing to you Bobbi. How can we be injured like this with no legal recourse? Maybe now that a "celebrity" has suffered it can bring the issue into mainstream.
Are stories are extremely similar
My God that blows my mind. You are my inspiration today ❤
Is there any hope for People who can't afford private clinics?
I lost all my healthcare because of an injury a doctor caused me. It's a miracle I am still alive, still healing and sill hoping to make a comeback so i can warn the others.
Why do doctors that prescribe these drugs not know all this information? This is so wrong. I hope Mr Peterson realizes what happened to him and joins the crusade and uses his status to help put an end to this .
@Tim Tully I totally agree BUT doctors need to start thinking for themselves and end the control that Big Pharma has on them. I mean they have to know but most likely are afraid to go against the hand that feeds them. I am 4 years off of a 3.5 year taper that started as a 5 day detox, then a reinstatement after 5 months of pure hell and I am still suffering greatly. This has to stop.
@Tim Tully Yea I know. Money is the root of most evil.
@@jacobsladder8385 The love of money is the root of all evil
jacobsladder greed is the root of all
Evil. Not money :)
Doctors know it, i m a med student , majority of people don t follow the instructions you give them, in italy when i am you can also take them without recipe. Jordan peterson is a psicologist, he perfectly knew the riscks. People should enter psicoterapy for anxiety, but people don t want face pain and insist for the drugs. (Sorry for my eng)
I wanted to thank you I believe you’re the only one that has ever diagnosed my problems completely 100% I was on benzodiazepines 2 mg a day. The doctor dropped me immediately 2.5 my neck locked up my body could not move properly. Something was terribly wrong with me and I couldn’t figure it out and I went to every doctor in the world well in my area to try to figure out what was going on the doctor that dropped me and told me that that wasn’t the problem that I was complaining about my neck before they dropped me, I have now become knowledgeable of what my problem is through a rehab place that a doctor that explained things to me so I have been tapering myself down. I’ve got myself to a certain milligram monthly and I’m trying to break free of that and I’m finding it really difficult to do, but I wanted to thank you because you have enlightened me and I see that the only one that understands what I was going through the person on these videos
The neck locking up is horrible. Stretching, yoga and light exercise like walking does help. Also just laying down and resting for 30 minutes improves it if even only for a couple hours. Mine locked up 2 months ago and I still have pain but it is not nearly as severe as it was.
This video is why Internet exsists! Thank you for the level-headed and informational, spot on description :) Keep it up!
Thank you for your work.
Since my early 20's, I've been prescribed by psychiatrists: benzos for anxiety, antidepressants for depression and anxiety, antiepileptics and antipsychotics for "mood stabilizing" for "possible bipolar disorder."
While having acute mental health episodes, suicidal at times and uneducated about the risks of the medications, I was frantic to feel sane.
Made my way through nursing school somehow with this cocktail on board. There, I learned pharmacology.
I finally found a psychiatrist who insisted on talk therapy (bless her!!!). She has helped me slowly taper off both benzos and antipsychotics, with talk therapy continuing throughout the process. Both withdrawals were difficult but nothing like JP and others have gone through. I am forever grateful that I found her and she knew what she was doing.
Interestingly, she is much younger than my previous psychiatrists. Maybe the newer generations will buck Big Pharma more than the older generations who were taught to "cure" everything with drugs, then manage side effects with more drugs, and on and on.
We MUST continue to educate.
that is becuase your old doctor are comisioned by pharma companies and younger is still new may be later she will be commisioned and become and demon instead of doctor.
Who is your psychiatrist
After nearly 20 years of prescribed use, I went to a rehab to try to get off benzos. I was taken off cold turkey and treated as a sud. After 4 days went into debilitating panic with severe stomach flu symptoms. After several days more, while the director of this Juno Beach facility treated me horribly as if I wasn't trying to attend meetings etc. I left and went back on medication. It took a long time to feel as if could function at all but this started another 5 years of tolerance and protracted injury while I tried to find help. I didn't know anything about this withdrawal syndrome. I finally did get off benzos but after a hellish journey with no help from many psychiatrist, trips to psychiatric hospitals; and misdiagnosed problems. I am so angry now about the years I have lost. I still have symptoms that I didn't associate until recently seeing information about this. This is 7 years later with painful neuropathy, cognitive loss, and a changed personality.
God bless you sweetheart! Currently, tapering via Ashton Method and it’s absolutely the most scariest part of my 50 years on this planet. I’m filled with hope and have donated to your cause. We are not addicts just ill-informed of the severity of risks. Medical doctors should not be able to prescribe these medications without special education. Prayers to all afflicted!
Just want to inject this here - that even those addicted to benzos are at risk of this iatrogenic injury. Like you, I suffered injury from taking Ativan as prescribed. But all of this focus on arguing about the stigma of addiction vs. dependence is a distraction from the real threat which is this fucking poison pill itself!! They need to either be banned or used ONLY in hospital for pre-surgery sedation - NO MORE OUTPATIENT PRESCRIBING of this deadly poison!!!
My brother is suffering from every thing that you are saying. They all need to be sued for malpractice.
I do not think it is necessarily malpractice - of course it may be. A patient does not take this substance because it is perfect, but because it is the best in the situation. For example, it can be a 10% risk going wrong, with long recovery. But 90% chance that the problem is just solved. It may be rational to take the risk. Of cause, it is understandable to be angry when it goes wrong, but maybe seeing it like this makes it easier to accept, reducing further suffering by anger and frustration (Not informing the patient about the risk may be malpractice)
No one should prescribe such a highly addictive medication. Sickos.
@@vcoonrod But what should be done then, when it is the best available medication? Of course, it may be right to just not treat the problem, because the medication may make it worse. And what if the chances that it perfectly helps without addiction problem is 90% or so?
@@vsiegel best for the situation??
No! Not best, easiest. Easiest for the doctor and easiest for the patient.
But not best. Far from best.
@@vsiegel it is NOT the best. It is the easiest.
What should be done is find and address the real biological problems- the autoimmune problem- and any psychological and/ or emotion issues the person may be dealing with. Including stresses caused by any life situation.
Thank you Nicole! The work you are doing along with the BIC is truely inspiring and groundbreaking.
What will it take for the medical doctors/community to understand and not treat the patient like a dug addict?? I won't go into my personal story here...I am living it now, on my own with no help from medical providers. I tried that and will not trust them again to help me with this struggle. Thank you for making this video!
Really feel for you x
It takes money. The more you have the better you will be treated. Unfortunately.
Jordan Petersen couldn't do it even with access to the best care. But it can be done. Check out this Kelly Brogan interview with Joe Rogan. ruclips.net/video/cunSB69gaec/видео.html
She also has a book called "A Mind of Your Own" I hope you find it helpful
Karma Is Here please check PROTANDIM NRF2 it will HELP you and is natural, you might gind videoa on RUclips related to addiction and here is the page where you can order it. eliamcmanus.lifevantage.com I wish you well, will pray for you and for every soul suffering these horrible symptoms.
I look at the body has little “factories” which produce the complex chemicals by which the body needs to regulate and supports what the body needs to do. Sometimes the factories are not providing enough so a drug is introduced to help. Sometimes because now that chemical is present, the factories get even more lazy and shuts down completely. Then when the drug is removed the factories must be rebuilt and that take time. We know so much but know so little. Dr Peterson is a world Treasure. I am so happy he is recovering. I hope he has not been changed too much by these challenges. Such a fine fine mind. I’m sure he will turn his thoughts inward but then outwardly share then teach us the way as he has always done.
I like your analogy here. Thing with benzos is that they force unnatural alterations to important structure in the brain and CNS that create a sense of calm. When those structures are altered or damaged there is no surgery or medication to correct it. The person is rendered incapable of feeling any sense of calm due to the reconfiguration forced by these neurotoxins. Benzos were designed to be used only for the very short term - like a few doses maybe. Any longer than that triggers the body to begin making these unnatural alterations to the CNS and brain. You can not artificially tamper with GABAa receptors and expect the body not to respond. It is impossible.
Sounds like the "chemical imbalance" theory which has long since been debunked. Even psychiatry admits there's no evidence for it (nevermind that they are the ones responsible for spreading it to begin with). www.madinamerica.com/2012/01/psychiatrys-grand-confession/
I am an independent clinical social worker and have used many of Jordan's concepts both with my clients and for myself and have the utmost respect for the depth of both his professional skill and his character, as far as I can see. I have dealt with clients suffering from tardive dyskinesia and akathesia and seen its effects personally. I am praying deeply for Jordan, his restoration, and his family's strength during this time. His contribution to society and, indeed, the world, cannot be overstated. All goodwill to the Petersons and recovery for Jordan are being sent your way. This is a trial of the severest kind and I am sorry it has been visited upon you.
This PA is EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE! Every doctor who prescribes this stuff should listen to this video. I am a benzo survivor and was on a very low dose-.25. As low as that is, it was still hell getting off Klonopin. Jordan went through much worse than most of us because of the paradoxical effect and the pneumonia. Sadly, my doctor had no clue how to help me taper- in fact, he did not think I could do it.
Peterson went thru what we all do Mr. Q. It is unfathomable torture.
THX 1138 Yes, it’s horrible!
How long were you on klonopin?
I am looking forward to JP recovering quickly and then hearing him discuss all this with us in his usual calm and enlightening manner. Thanks for this information.
Larry Wayte Pray for that- that is my prayer for him. So scary.
If it's as bad as they say then I can tell you, from personal experience, that it may be years before he's ready. It's taken me three years post benzos to feel like a human again
Thank you for your expert information given w/o judgement of Mr. Peterson. We pray for him.
The fact that shes been through it makes me respect her even more.
I am so glad that Dr Peterson is on the mend! I am a fellow position assistant and I work in dialysis. You have opened up my mind to very insightful and meaningful information regarding benzodiazepines, addiction and dependence. I can't help but admire your articulate and professional delivery of said information. I've been praying for the Peterson family. It is an honor to serve with you as a fellow PA.
What you are saying is absolutely true. The doctors should be telling their patients exactly what you are saying. Failure to do so is medical malpractice. In this case, claiming ignorance is no defense. The doctors have spent years in school to get a license to practice and should know what they are doing to their patients. It’s up to the doctors to make their patients aware of this. That’s what their patients are paying for. What you are saying about detox centers is also true. Patients who want to get off benzodiazepines should also be made are of the failures of detox centers. The pharmaceutical companies, the doctors, and the detox centers should be sued for the medical damage that they are causing. My brother called me for help a year and a half ago. I couldn’t believe what I saw when I arrived at his house. Many patients have committed suicide from these drugs and can’t tell others how they felt that led them to suicide. I’ve used Macrobiotic concepts to save my brother’s life especially ginger compresses on his kidneys. You should not have to say that disclaimer to start this video. Your information is medical advice that the doctors should be telling every single patient before they prescribe a single pill. Failure to do so is malpractice.
Ginger compress is a very simple remedy that I’m giving to my brother. My brother is healing and coming out of financial ruin. Before my arrival, my brother spent $6k on detox facilities that made him worse. His insurance paid 54k of the remaining balance. My treatment is free to him and is working. As I said, all those involved in producing and prescribing these drugs must legally pay for all damages that they have caused.
You describe many issues that clearly exist, I do not disagree to it with my other comment.
Regarding suicides, there is a factor to take into account: This kind of medication is sometimes used to reduce an existing suicide risk. So a suicide while taking the medication may not be caused by the medication, it is even possible that it worked well and reduced the suicide risk a lot. But it went badly by really bad luck anyway.
Emmanuel Vacakis i never heard of ginger compresses, can you please elaborate?.thank you
pinkformarie all you do is get ginger root and chop it up with skin and all. Put a handful in a cheese cloth or plastic mesh from the supermarket and put a twisty on it so the ginger doesn’t make a mess. Put it in a pot of hot water that’s not boiling. Boiling the ginger will kill the enzyme and it won’t be effective. Use 2 wash cloth size towels. On in the hot ginger water, and the other one you use to pick up the hot one so you don’t even need gloves. Apply the hot one directly on the skin. Put the cold one in the hot ginger water. Keep alternating. Do it on the intestines and the kidneys. It has to hurt a bit but not burn. Your skin will likely get stained by the treatments especially since you’ve been taking drugs. But the stain will eventually go away in time when the treatments are done. You can reuse the ginger water for 2 days so you don’t have to make it every time. You can do compresses on your legs and feet as well. But not on your head. I’ve saved my life and my brother’s life with ginger compresses. I had a heart attack and atrial fibrillation, and my brother of course was an eyelash from committing suicide from drug withdrawal and a brutal divorce that took all his wealth and loss of his family and being thrown out onto the street.
Emmanuel Vacakis thank you for the detailed explanation, so this can be used to treat many things?
I am sending positive thoughts and prayers to you and your brother
This sounds like pure horror. These drugs should be banned. I pray for Jordan and all those on these drugs.
Big pharma
It is pure horror. People literally have no idea until you have been on them.
Judith Brock Holding the entire Peterson family in our thoughts and prayers daily.
Simple Living have you been on them yourself?
Banned? There are some people with rare diseases literally can NOT function w/o them and after 30 years, there is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that I could replace this with. Part of my disease is having a muscular FULL body contraction. If you try to pull my am or leg open, you would literally break my bone. When it happens the pain is so severe I can’t explain in words. I need 30-40 mg of Diazepam IM to “unlock” my body. People have thought I’m having a seizure and tried to “help”. I can’t talk. I ended up with a fractured wrist from a Good Samaritan. I don’t blame them but I was having a “good day” and going shopping alone is kind of nice sometimes. I don’t use it daily. There’s no rhyme or reason, it just happens when it happens. Don’t bother with any “have u tried...” because it’s “”yes” to everything from eye of newt to brain surgery. It is what it is. Nothing has replaced Valium for me. It was originally invented as a muscle relaxant until it was turned into “housewife heroin” in the 60’s and was the beginning of the misuse and off script use. So, yes, education x 100000 is a must! No arguments there but to flippantly say to “ban” this drug across the board based on this singular media blown up story with a multitude of poor and baseless journalism at its worst. Your flippant uneducated blanketed response is one of ignorance and not ever understanding what someone like me lives with every day. I don’t enjoy getting ready to go out thinking “where’s my emergency kit” vs a normal human thinking “where’s my keys” or “where’s my phone”. Imagine being 100% cognoscente while a stranger breaks your bones and you can’t scream or say stop. Yeah, let’s “ban all those drugs”. Such a black and white train of thinking. Life is full of varying shades of grey.
Imagine if your child acted out terribly and your options are to punish him severely so he can’t sit for a week OR do nothing and just let it go. Nope, no other options. Black or white. Beat him senseless or let it go unnoticed. Exactly. 100000 shades of grey. Talking it out, educating him, teaching him responsibility and respect, perhaps no tv for a week etc etc. but most certainly you wouldn’t choose to beat him or to let it go.
Life just isn’t as simple ass “ban all those drugs”. Educate people a heck of a lot better and follow up with them more frequently would be a great start!! Banning them would be a near death sentence for someone like me. Thanks. Thanks for your amazing 2 cents and your uneducated and uncaring response to a drug that can take, make or break lives. In my case, they make mine. But hey, Judith Brock says ban them all so that’s what we’ll do! Any puppies you’d like to kick on your way home or old people you’d feel better tripping? Maybe slap a blind guy for fun. You’re a horrible human being and your comments have consequences. I wish you could live for one day of my life when I have an “episode” for the lack of a better term. I wish you would feel the excruciating pain I feel while whomever I’m with has to inject me. It might be minutes but it feels like hours and you wouldn’t last 10 seconds in my life. Normally I ignore uneducated and ignorant comments from people like you but not today, nope, not today. This story hits too close to home and you armchair quarterbacks need to keep it shut until you’ve walked a mile in our Shoes. I’m tired of being kind and attempting to educate people like you. It’s impossible to fix stupid.
great job explaining all involved
Thank you for making this video. Taking the effort and providing all the links is really appreciated.
Beautifully addressed and articulated, Nicole. I recently watched a documentary covering Jordan Peterson’s rise to fame and picked up on Pharma induced behavior, personality expression. I’m very curious when his benzodiazepine exposure began as well as any serotonergic drug exposures. With his history of depression, it’s possible he is poly pharm injured.
Thanks so much for bringing awareness. I can only imagine how many people are thinking they have no help, they feel they have lost their life and sanity. Maybe their friends and family will see this and can get involved to help and not write them off as a drug addict.
Sounds like hell. Doctors should not prescribe these .
Dr. Ashton recently passed away. Her manual is the best information available. This video is spot on.
Debra P it is hell
Debra P Withdrawal is what hell must be like. Seizures. Psychosis. Inability to sleep. It’s absolute hell.
I feel sad to hear you too went through this level of suffering. Thank you for elaborating and your efforts to alert people about the dangers.
Why does it take someone like Jordan to get sick to get this knowledge out. There are so many people shunned away for when there symptoms are mistaken for anxiety. Its time for change
Benzos are not a very common perscription these days compared to 40 years ago. The concerns about their medical use/side effects were out there 2 decades ago.
Since many (but obviously not all) doctors don't prescribe them they have been less used recently so getting the word out doesn't make as much sense. HIghlight that against say, Meth addiction or oxycoton use and abuse, which is at a much greater prevalence. Getting the word out is happening for those substances.
@Karen Brock It isn't drug addiction in his case or in the vast majority of those who are injured by these drugs. It is too important to understand the differences in the terms because addiction and physical dependency are vastly different as is drug dependency and abuse.
@Karen Brock What??!! Ridiculous!
@Karen Brock
Jordan Peterson is brilliant. I'll bet you've never read one of his books or attended one of his lectures. He has a family history of major depression. Are you perfect? And no, I'm not on any drugs at all and I'm 63.
@Karen Brock
And how do you know what "his cure rates" are?
Thank you for explaining this so well. Though I never believed Dr. Peterson was a drug addict, I did not understand much about this med and its adverse effects of coming off of this med. This really explained things well and help me be more informed on the possible dangers of this med. Thank you for doing this video and doing it so well.
What a stellar video regarding this all important subject. Thank you, thank you for posting-benzodiazepine sufferers thank you, their family and friends thank you and we who appreciate, Jordan Peterson, and are so very concerned for his welfare and future thank you...!
Wow! That must’ve been absolutely horrible for Jordan Peterson and his family. I really believe a mind like Jordan Peterson can recover from such agonizing physiological trauma. He also has millions of fans wanting to help him to get well, whenever he wishes. Looking forward to the next update.
It’s so sad, and troubling, that most of the social media seems to continue to push their false narratives. Why are they so afraid of one individual who has helped hundreds of thousands of people?
Mr. Peterson's current trial is a clear statement in "do as I say, not as I do". There are untold millions of people world-wide who have suffered injury or death from the monstrosity that is "pharma solution". My heart aches for Jordan Peterson because I know from my own experience of iatrogenic injury with benzodiazepines. This injury is unlike anything else. It is unfathomable torture that is untreatable and very long lasting. Many never fully recover. Too many are forced to end their lives. It is equal to those who jumped from the towers on 9/11. Fortunately I am seeing measured progress after several years in recovery. I will never understand how it didn't kill me. As tragic as this situation is for us and Mr. Peterson, my hope is that with his celebrity and global popularity it has the potential to catapult the issue of this silent epidemic into the main stream and save people from ignorantly falling into catastrophic injury from the use of these neurotoxins. I am living proof that anxiety can absolutely be managed without drugs. We have learned this truth thru surviving the injury and being forced to seek proven and effective alternatives. We all should be taught these skills long before any suggestion of drugs.
Peterson has discussed struggling with depression. And you’re at all familiar with his personality studies, he has stated he has a high level of neuroticism which is common with mental heath issues. I hope he recovers
Karen Brock Karen Brock I don’t usually swear, but what you just said is fucking delusional! What’s your occupation? What do you do for a living? If it was anything of prestige or hard work to achieve you would know that Dr. Peterson is not a danger to society. The thousands of hours this man has dedicated to educating himself through thorough studies taken over hundreds of years in areas of psychology, sociology, political theory, philosophy- and you’re just going to discredit him because he suffers from mental health issues and has a benzo addiction? Do you know how addictive benzos are? Try taking 10mg Valium for a week straight and quitting the next day. Good luck, how do you think pharmacists make their money? They make sure their cash flow keeps coming in. What a simple fucking claim to make that he’s a danger to society. Have you listened to his lectures? This man thinks rationally and factually and articulates his research and opinions in a manner that you couldn’t even conceptualize yourself being blessed with having in ten lifetimes. Next time you want to talk about a man with triple your IQ in a shitty fucking way, don’t be drunk. Use your fucking head. Geniuses suffer from mental health issues because they can rationalize and actually understand that the world is a terrible, cold place. Jordan Peterson understands this to a core, which is why he is a high in neuroticism. He has stated this and it is perfectly reasonable! The only thing making the world colder are doorknob-for-brains fools like you who want to discredit a man with an IQ of easily 150+ because he has “mental health issues”. This man is not insane or a danger. The only danger related to this man are the fools like you trying to silence him. That’s my 2 cents for the day...
@@mugsys lol. the man is a liar and a charlatan. a rhetorically gifted grifter. he deserves all the derision coming his way. lol, lol, lol.
Butte Hauser believe what you want to believe. I’m not gonna tell you what to do. I respect and idolize this man for the lives he’s saved and people he’s touched and lifted out of a depression. I respect him because of the accounts of people that have told him that he made them get up off their ass and stop feeling sorry for themselves and got a job and provided for their infant child. He’s not a perfect man, but you’re a fool for judging him- as you’re not perfect either. So I wish you a good day and I respect and understand your opinion, but I find Jordan Peterson to be a saviour for many people who couldn’t figure out life on their own.
EXCELLENT VIDEO. This was very educational and a great public service. Thank you.
As an RN, sadly, I never learned about any of the side effects or adverse reactions that can occur with this drug.
Thank you for this educational video. We have walked this walk blindly for two-plus years, trying to find help and information. Struggling people are following their doctor’s prescribed advice and suffering immeasurable harm.
This woman is super smart and explains everything with amazing precision.
Such important information. Thank you for your work and professionalism. It is greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much for this !!!
Thank you so much for posting this video. There was so much information to take in and digest personally. I appreciate you taking the time out share this valuable info. Thank you again.
Great job and SO true!!Just like with me,when i had cut my dose in half it threw me into a horrible withdrawal and after it happened nothing got me out of it,they turned paradoxical on me,Anytime i would try to updose them it only made me 100xs sicker and in turn made me stop cold turkey in detox thinking i could escape the symptoms but only made me A MILLION times worse!!.Alot of people don't realize how bad updosing or reinstating can be for the wrong people
Thank you so very much. I knew nothing about this topic before listening to your presentation. Keep up the great work!
What you are saying sounds so true to me as I once was a victim of benzodiazepine, Clonazepam. I developed a physical dependency on it and when I tried to stop using them the entire hell broke loose.
Thank you for putting this up. You are providing a valuable public information resource. I have subscribed just on the basis of this one video, but I look forward to seeing your other content.
Life saving work Nicole. Thank you.
Incredible job explaining this issue: clear, calm, concise. THANK YOU!!!
Did Mikhaila every do another update in the past couple years? I saw the one where she interviewed her Dad when they were in Serbia and he was just two weeks out from stopping benzos. I've tried to find any updates after that but couldn't. How was his journey after that? I'm so curious what they "substituted" or used that made him feel so much better so quickly when in Serbia. Maybe that was just a band-aid, who knows. I hope they will share what worked for him in his journey to recovery. Thank you for doing this analysis Nicole, really great work!
he’s got brain damage from the benzos now, definitely not the same person he once was
Thank you so much, Nicole. Your explanation is clear, calm and very informative.
That's one of the ideal outcomes from all of this-isn't-it? Maybe he'll become an advocate. It's sad that it had to happen-but hey-awareness is crucial! 1,000's of people suffer, and are hardly heard, so-perhaps-he can make up for some of that lost air-time and painful silence.
Thank you for the video! Excellent information-if only-psychiatry had more physicians like you.
So many can be spared-hell-given adequate knowledge for consent.
Thank you very much for this enlightening experience. I second yours and millions of others wishes that the great professor makes a speedy and full recovery.
Well explained. As a physician, I have not presribed any of these drugs, (benzodiazepines), unless it is in a tapering process, for about a decade and it is precisely because of seeing the reaction Dr Peterson had had that I refuse to do so. Those patients still on it are tapered off in a controlled setting and it is incredibly difficult but it works best if the patient FULLY understands what had happened, what is happening and what is going to happen. I feel the same way about most sleeping tablets, even the non-benzos. It is toxic pharmacology.
Such important information which MUST BE SHARED. Mental suffering isn' always visible, no bandage, no walking stick,,,its a nightmare in your head. These drugs have to be taken off the market now!! Big Pharma with their big bank accounts have to take responsibility for ruining lives. People need help now!
Sad as it is, maybe Mr Peterson's suffering will ultimately help to highlight, educate and shine a huge RED ALERT LIGHT on this dangerous drug.
My thoughts, prays and healing go to everyone going through this trauma....there will be better days for you.
An excellent concise review of the facts. Thank you.
thank you for caring. evidenced by you taking the time to so beautifully articulating a difficult subject
I've been on them for 37 years. I still take them as prescribed or don't take as much as prescribed. They've been a life saver for me.
Exactly some of us need them and would never abuse them. A complete lifesaver for me as well!
I, too, will stay on them as they keep me sane, and I take less than prescribed, so I'm not drug seeking but I am dependent on them.
@@tambarker3862u get dependent. That's why they up you. Some abuse them yes..but u get dependent and then you're in for a hell of a ride and I've been on them since 16 and I'm 38. I'll be on them for life after almost dying coming off few times. But yes..they can be great. Clonazapam is only one that helps me most. Dropping even a quarter of one of those pills..omg the horror
I got off of Klons successfully In a detox centers that I was in for another drug. The withdrawal only lasted a few days and was tough! Years later I started having chronic anxiety attacks and was put back on klonapins (1mg per day). I was on them for 8 years when my new doctor advised me to come off. I did a slow taper for moths and got completely off of them. A month or so later I had a complete meltdown with non stop panic attacks, OCD, depersonalization and depression! I felt completely out of my mind and had to go back on them but my mind was still messed up! I started seeing a CBT doctor and after 3 years I started feeling a lot better but I’m still taking 1mg at bed time. I’m not sure I want to even try to come off of them again, I may just stay on them until I die. I’m 57 years old and not sure I have the fight in me anymore.
I've had paradoxical reactions. Tried to increase my dose 5 different times just by a little. Had severe agitation and full blown intense panic attacks.
Thank you for clarifying for the public and for your support to the Peterson family on this subject !
Your volume is cutting in and out- Perfectly accurate video. Ty.
Thank you Nicole what a brilliant piece of service to the public concern!
Sounds like something to never use for any reason.
Absolutely
I would keep on telling patients who think they need them here in the third world. They are a luxury we could do well to keep off as we don't have any detox centers. Our hospitals are already stuffed full as it were.
Exactly!!!
@@RM-fs8ub The bigger problem is that detox center or micro tapering will help a person stop taking them, however those people will still take years untill their bodies get their gaba receptors to a previous normal level. It is a really slow and agonizing process. It should never be taken for longer periods of time. Not all people have such sensitivity for them, but prescribing them for people for years or abruptly stopping them should be a crime.
They don't even know what he took. People have taken these for years for various reasons, and they can be quite helpful.
Well done and thank you for the information. You are a welcome example of recovery and I believe that Dr Peterson will also recover with the loving energy of his supporters and family.
Excellent elucidation of every point raised.
Wow. The best explanation I've ever heard including from my own physician. I've experienced 'discontinuation syndrome' personally and my own physican was 'shocked' by my experience. No one can understand unless they've experienced it. There is truly very little help and understanding about this terrible situation. Thank you for posting this.
Madam, thank you for being so understanding and informative. I know you're here to be more helpful than hurtful, but you must understand that many people here have had their lives effected by Mr Peterson, often in a good way. So, if you catch any flak posting this video, don't feel bad about it. Thank you for informing us, and please try to reach out to the Peterson family, and try to help. Thank you for your time, and have a good one.
GREAT JOB, NICOLE, AS ALWAYS. WE LOVE AND THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIRELESS WORK.
As a fluoroquinolone toxicity survivor, I was pleasantly surprised by the discussion of how fluoroquinolones affect GABA receptors, so thank you very much for that! I took 12 pills of Levaquin before experiencing body wide severe disabling side effects, damaging nerves, tendons, joints, and my brain. I experienced anxiety and panic for the first time in my life, and it was severe! So severe, I was contorting into different positions on my bed! I didn't didn't know what to do with all that panic. And I was going all night long like that! I joined some support groups on social media for fluoroquinolone toxicity, and they said to take magnesium because benzodiazepines would only make it worse. So I began in high doses of Magnesium, and you know what! It worked! High doses of the right form of magnesium can work just as well as benzodiazepines in calming down, and feelings of relaxation and peace. Also for sleep! From multiple discussions with many people in the "floxy" community, there is a general rule of thumb that they have discovered: if you use pharma drugs to heal, you'll just end up dependant on pharma drugs. If you rely on natural methods, such as supplements, a clean diet, etc, you are more likely to actually heal. While I used magnesium, my brain did eventually heal from many problems caused by the Fluoroquinolone toxicity. Today I don't need magnesium and I am anxiety and panic free.
What kind of magnesium did you take?
Thank you for this extremely informative and empathetic video.
This information should be widely spread out among patients and their families.
I had a HORRIBLE paradoxal reaction from Klonopin , I was on 0.5 and GP increased to 3 x day and within hours I was in restless rage , burning all over …..absolute hell
LAM same happened to my son
Thank you, thank you so much for making this video, and I'm glad to hear your family is recovering from this horrendous drug and its effects. I was a sober/clean recovering addict when my pill prescribing nurse started me on Benzos. In no time I started abusing the drug, and then even started washing them down with beer, which of course I don't remember due to the amnesia-like effect of that combination.This lethal combo almost killed me and it did cause some lasting damage I may never recover from. It caused serious damage to my overall health, but the worst of all is the damage to my relationships .
Great and much needed commentary all round. Many thanks for walking us through the Peterson family video to explain the glaring issues around ' addiction' language, misconceptions about things as simple and startling as the myth of a low dose, and all other points raised. I doubt Jordan ever saw himself becoming the new benzo poster boy, but appreciate their transparency as they learn as they go. I think we' d all like to know what the Russian cure is, but not holding my breath.
Thank you so much for making this video. It clears up a lot of confusion.
It just makes me cry that such a good man would suffer so! 😢
Millions if not billions are
Are you kidding? There are legions of people in this position without Jordan Peterson's affluence & publicity. I feel more sorry for them
Thank you for explaining this kind of physical dependence. I wish all who are going through this are able to get help and recover.
Thank you for explained the difference between addiction and physical dependence. I'm a proud recovery alcoholic.
Happy that Dr. Peterson found the appropriate help for withdrawal from benzodiazepines. I suffered through this in 2012 and found the only help available was online. Glad to see there is now more effort to educate the public on the dangers of these medications.
I am glad I listened to this
Very smart person thank you
I admit I was apprehensive at first I thought it was going to be a lot of Monday morning Quarterbacking but I was wrong
I am sorry you went through this experience. You sound like you could talk circles around some of these doctors. Keep up the good work
Thank you for this. I really appreciate the 12 step remarks.....
FASCINATING breakdown of benzo and the physical dependency it can cause.
I never considered the difference between "physical dependency" and "addiction."
Excellent service you have provided here.
Informative and compassionate video. It's hard to believe that this problem is so relatively unknown that a clinical psychologist with a history of depression could make the mistake of allowing himself to become physically dependent on benzos. Thank you for the video explanation and best wishes for the Peterson family.
Hes human...
The only people who are truly aware of the risks of catastrophic injury with this poison are those of us who have survived it. It takes years to recover and during that time you are incapable of bringing awareness to this global holocaust.
@71SgtMom Absolutely. I was completely disconnected from my personality and identity for 2.5 years. I don't even know how to describe what that is like to you. Probably the closest would be a very bad acid trip that is combined with 25 different debilitating chronic illnesses all occurring simultaneously lasting for years?? There is nothing like this injury. A drug that forces alterations to your brain and central nervous system is a drug designed by the devil himself.
@71SgtMom oh i am so sorry. It is incredibly painful to see our children suffer and be powerless to help time. I am just so sorry. Doctors don't know what the hell they are doing!! Of course without knowing what drugs he was given we can't know if these behaviors are stemming from them but personally I have never heard of someone with a benzo injury engaging in this particular type of behavior. Only because the suffering is so profound all you can do is try not to die. It is totally debilitating. But I could see if you had a certain disposition and recovered from benzo injury and wanting to exact revenge on a doctor - that wouldn't be unusual. There are many health issues that can cause a person to act out in rage and they are NOT mental illnesses. I wish I could offer helpful information for you.
John Szoke
He has feet of clay like all of us but he is arrogant. I like some of his talks quite a bit but...
And for all of you saying this is new info it is not. This info has been out for years even on the internet for those of you who don’t read other media. Why would you ever take anything into your body that you have not researched and really taken the time to weigh out the benefits versus the side effects?! This case, at least, was not the prescribing physician’s fault. Mr. P is very well educated.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this video. Informative, knowledgeable and against preconceived ideas.
Get well soon Dr. Peterson.
I have been on and off Ativan for 19 years and haven't had an issue. Don't assume it does this to everyone, as a lot of people can and will be harmed if we get this wrong.
Beautiful Spirits thank you for your unconditional service and Love that you shine.