Na, The practical accuracy course subjects surplus or in service military firearms to a accuracy test out to 500 yrds. or 800 yards for a sniper rifle or DMR. This barrel will probably achieve that easily. They have already shown that most run of the mill hunting rifles pass the course easily. Not really a test of this barrel.
You guys. When Eugene Stoner came out with the AR platform, the process to make them was exuberantly expensive. If we can get more people interested in stuff like this, we can hopefully make the technology more widely adopted and bring the cost down. I have been very interested and excited about carbon fiber barrels since they first came out. Let's put some competition in that field.
-The AR platform was designed for the military; AR’s were designed to be made for the lowest bid. Perhaps CNC technology in the 1950’s wasn’t up to it; but, it was designed with the fewest easily made parts.
@@michaelgarrow3239 the AR was designed HOPING to get a military contract*** and they didn't have CNC technology in the 50's and 60's, tape machines weren't even out by then
All of the Tikka T3 options are out of stock. LOL I think this video would've been better timed with actual options to buy these barrels. By the time they come back in stock, I'll have forgotten. He was also not accurate at all about the pricing. I didn't see any barrels below $1000, and most were $1100+. The AR 223 Wylde is over $1300. That's just insane for an AR. I'll take Daniel Defense accuracy for $300, Alex.
It's the carbon fiber that makes the barrel so expensive. Carbon fiber is as strong or stronger than steel but incredibly lighter. But I'm with you, a good quality Faxon or Ballistic Advantage barrel and you're good to go imo.
@@ricks.1092still over $300 dollars more than a top of the line (winning) Proof research barrel. Plus Proof barrels have proven their performance for over a decade.
Carbon fiber barrels have one huge flaw: the epoxy that binds the fibers together. These epoxies have a very low melting point compared to steel so they do NOT last long under persistent shooting conditions. The cured epoxy is also very susceptible to creep (cyclical stress loading). I would never suggest it unless you plan to shoot 3 shots , 20 times per year.
I feel your pain. But you're getting what you pay for. The only problem I see is now that you can't blame the gun for a piss poor shot. Lol, you still have the ammo to blame it on. Other than that, it falls on you as a shooter.
It's nice to know that there's companies out there innovating unfortunately for most of us we will never be able to afford to use those kind of barrels ...cool video tho
Are they able to make barrels for the SCAR-17? That would be cool to eliminate the SCAR's harmonics issue. It would also be amazing to make that gun even lighter and more accurate.
Seeing as the SCAR is already a pencil profile you're not likely going to shave much if any weight. On top of that the SCAR harmonic issues are primarily from the BCG moving through the upper receiver and banging back into the feed ramps which will still be metal.
@@RJBiteanerd I guess what I'm thinking of would be an effectively thicker, more rigid barrel for the same or less weight. They would probably have to make a 1 barrel run for it though because of the way it's torque screwed in. Probably be pretty expensive. Would be cool to do though.
7:12 you know the only thing is if you shoot enough to give yourself a little bit of barrel droop or I think what Max really talking about is is heat shifting the barrel The thing you'll run into is your start hammering your rifling down because your rifling starts losing integrity first
I’m over 600rds on my ol bsf 6.5prc waypoint. Mostly maxed out handloads on the ragged edge and still goin strong..95gr v max I load over 3600fps and only shot 50-60rds but I have every rd logged so we’ll see what she runs out on. I looked those barrels up and I don’t remember em bein close to $1300. I priced each component of the waypoint and to me there a steal at $2200. I have same scope on it also 22x lht lightest I know of.
Love the idea... hate the price. 😂 Maybe it is arbitrary... but I have a psychological block for an gun part costing more than $1000. 2x as accurate and 1/2 the weight: maybe it is worth 4x other quality barrels, but that is a lot of $$$.
Just a spoiler alert. At some point in five to six decades from now. Definitely before the end of the century. We have a version of carbon barrels with the ability to change the twist rates on the fly. Also at some point. All ammo boxes will include the closest appropriate barrel twist rates based on velocity and bullet size/weight/bc information.
Helix 6 barrels aren't even as good as PROOF Carbon barrels which are cheap by comparison. Don't get me wrong PROOF is expensive as hell but at least they actually work and have a patented method for adhering the carbon fiber properly
I put together my mega arms 6.5CM upper with a helix 6 barrel, it's accurate AF with anything you put through it, shoots fgmm like other barrels with handloads
I've got a pencil barrel from Ballistic advantage and it's a shooter... When it's in a vise or on a baracade. I've found that between the barrel and the carbon fiber handguard the front end is literally to light and just sways too much when not stabilized. I find myself just using my lightweight medium contour barrel. I couldn't imagine the troubles of an even lighter barrel
If you're spending $10k/year on ammo and match fees, a $1300 barrel is not a huge lift. Different strokes for different folks... That having been said, I would not be the market for these barrels.
For me if I'm spending that kind of money I'd love to see some tech going toward improving barrel life. seems like it turned out to be vaporware but the dracos barrels said they had longer life. For the average or even above average volume shooter out of reach.
I’d love to hear your decision making process for choosing Federal Vs Hornady. If it comes to price point, I assume you won’t share, but it would be nice to know.
Yes we do, i have a number of proof research barrels and a helix 6 barrel and they're amazing shooters at significantly less weight. For a long range hunting rifle they're amazing
Yeah for $1600 ill grab a BA or Faxon or any other moa or better barrel for 300 bucks and spend that remaining 1300 on ammo. 95% of shooters arent going to be good enough for that .25 moa to even matter. Also i HIGHLY doubt these things have anywhere near the barrel life of a quality steel barrel. Its a 416r stainless core afterall.
Also, because the salesman is wrong about carbon fiber composites being thermally conductive, they hold the heat in longer on a fairly thin steel section. That will likely cause throats to erode faster than normal. How much faster? I don't know. I've yet to see anyone even investigate the mater, let alone do a thoroughly test it.
carbon fiber shrinks as it gets hotter. the stainless liners grows. this dissimilar nature can cause seporation of the matterials and decreased accuracy. "carbon fiber" is a composite material. carbon fiber and epoxy. like fiberglass. the carbon is very thermally conductive but the epoxy makes up almost half of the composite is not that conductive. generally they heat up slow and cool down slow. when u "chip" the fiber it ruins it a lot more than scratching steel. in short the mixture is extrememly important and not one military uses them as duty grade. they are benchrest queens
This is cringy AF! .....MAC actually told me in the comments like a year or so ago that they dont tell anyone what they should buy!....What the hell is this? It is telling people what they should buy. And please dont try to tell me MAC is not getting paid by Helix 6 for this video. Either in product or cash, he is getting paid to push this product. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON that ANYONE outside of competition, that ANYONE NEEDS a $1300 dollar barrel. So, of course, they need people like MAC to make you think you need this. Otherwise, they would only sell like 10 barrels a year to competitors.
@heyman5525 FIrst of all sir, this is NOT Just typical gun talk, this is a paid advertisement, this is NOT just 2 old friends getting together to have a beer and the topic of stupidly expensive gun parts organically came up. No, not at all! Neither of these men would be in this video if they did not have some financial gain baked into it.....and 2nd I take ALL my meds before I even get out of bed in the morning! The nice lady from ward three comes on Tuesday and Thursday to bring them to me. The rest of the week, it is orderly Phil, who brings my meds, thank you very much!
@johnbartlett7000 Ohh man, don't get me wrong, I am not trying to tell anyone not to spend their money the way they want to. I just have a big issue, with paid advertisements not declaring they are paid advertisements, and with Channels like The Military Arms Channel not disclosing the full picture to someone that comes across this video and maybe does not have the experience in building ARs or shooting that some of others of us have. Like if I new person to AR building watches this video, and thinks man I need that barrel because I want the best accuracy I can get, that person is not gonna necessarily understand that they can spend a fraction of that cost and get a barrel that will be way, way more accurate then they ever will be. A new person to shooting may not understand that they don't have the skills to make that barrel worth buying. And that a off the shelf nitride barrel, or chrome lined, etc. from faxon or rosco or a hundred other reputable barrel makers will still be far more accurate than they are and suit them better because it will be more durable and have a higher round count before degrading than the stainless carbon fiber barrels. .....But mostly it's the hypocrisy that pisses me off, and the gatekeeper attitude, MAC will dog on one brand for a small imperfection in a product, and then turn around and prop up companies that have a history of sh!tting the bed, in not small ways. I even remember him doing a video, where he was comparing a POF-USA REVOLUTION to a Sig 716DI showing the accuracy was similar and telling people he did not like the POF-USA gun because it was more expensive. And you could get the same accuracy out of the SIG for less money. ....not even bringing up that the Revolution was like 3lbs lighter and the same footprint of an AR15 had full ambi controls and a number of other components that made it more expensive to make. ...yet he then makes this video, which completely flies in the face of his attitude in the POF-USA vs. Sig video. Ok, I am done whinning like a little girl. Sorry about the long reply.
Talk is cheap without a representation of 30 shot groups , and Reloaders make ammunition for less money with better accuracy those that expect more from their equipment
Cringe, this isn’t even properly carbon fiber jacketed. This is still just wrapped fairly traditionally, this is still gonna warp the barrel slightly as the barrel heats up. You need a carob fiber jacketed barrel where the carbon fiber is applied on a mandrill and then jacketed on the barrel. There’s more that goes into it too, but that’s the first step to getting one that is accurate
Most carbon fibers are only thermally conductive along the axis of the fiber. Pretty much all carbon fiber composites are much less thermally conductive than steel, especially perpendicular to the bore, which is the way heat naturally radiates because of the geometric properties of a barrel. Anyone who tells you different and doesn't have the testing to back it up is either ignorant or lying. This might be a fine product, but when the salesman is peddling in falsehoods, I loose my interest.
I never hear anyone talk about the line an upper must make with the barrel in relation to the scope. It all has to be inline and deviate in the least possible manner.
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These claims beg for a 9 hole reviews video 🤔
For sure!
If you are hunting carbon fiber barrels are good. Outside of that you’re wasting your money.
I mean, I hit the same hole 3 times in a row with a remington 700 sa 308 with a bipod and a nikon p308 3-12 scope.
Na, The practical accuracy course subjects surplus or in service military firearms to a accuracy test out to 500 yrds. or 800 yards for a sniper rifle or DMR. This barrel will probably achieve that easily. They have already shown that most run of the mill hunting rifles pass the course easily. Not really a test of this barrel.
@panzerabwerkanone Yup, you're right!
This is so above my level. If I started today, I probably couldn't see the benefit of these barrels
Better have a deep wallet.
They wouldn't be bad if they were 8 or 900 but 1650 over 1750 after tax and shipping is crazy.
Its for pro's...this stuff will probably wind up with specialist snipers and Olympic grade shooters.
@@brokeandtired Pros are using PROOF CF, not a $1600 sleeved barrel
@@Courtesyflush52because they’re given them for free or 400 bucks.
The price and time it takes to get a helix barrel I would just get a proof research barrel
Interesting infomercial
Nobody needs this but lighter is nice in the field carrying.
Hey Tim,
I just wanted to say Thank You for this info.
I'm getting ready to start a new build.
This is going to be awesome.
You guys. When Eugene Stoner came out with the AR platform, the process to make them was exuberantly expensive. If we can get more people interested in stuff like this, we can hopefully make the technology more widely adopted and bring the cost down. I have been very interested and excited about carbon fiber barrels since they first came out. Let's put some competition in that field.
-The AR platform was designed for the military; AR’s were designed to be made for the lowest bid.
Perhaps CNC technology in the 1950’s wasn’t up to it; but, it was designed with the fewest easily made parts.
@@michaelgarrow3239 the AR was designed HOPING to get a military contract*** and they didn't have CNC technology in the 50's and 60's, tape machines weren't even out by then
@@michaelgarrow3239”designed for the lowest bidder” doesn’t mean what you think it means
@@rondobrondo - Tell me; then, what you think it means.
I own patents on rifles. Btw
All of the Tikka T3 options are out of stock. LOL I think this video would've been better timed with actual options to buy these barrels. By the time they come back in stock, I'll have forgotten.
He was also not accurate at all about the pricing. I didn't see any barrels below $1000, and most were $1100+. The AR 223 Wylde is over $1300. That's just insane for an AR. I'll take Daniel Defense accuracy for $300, Alex.
Harmonics tuning- see Browning BOSS system.
Army Resarch Lab has already showed that harmonics tuning is snake oil
I was all like hell yeah, then did a google search, then was like hell no for $1300. Paid about $250-$300 for my faxon match barrel that gets sub moa.
It's the carbon fiber that makes the barrel so expensive. Carbon fiber is as strong or stronger than steel but incredibly lighter. But I'm with you, a good quality Faxon or Ballistic Advantage barrel and you're good to go imo.
Christensen Arms make a nice AR with carbon fiber wrapped barrel and carbon Handguard inserts for $1,800.
@@ricks.1092still over $300 dollars more than a top of the line (winning) Proof research barrel. Plus Proof barrels have proven their performance for over a decade.
Carbon fiber barrels have one huge flaw: the epoxy that binds the fibers together. These epoxies have a very low melting point compared to steel so they do NOT last long under persistent shooting conditions. The cured epoxy is also very susceptible to creep (cyclical stress loading).
I would never suggest it unless you plan to shoot 3 shots , 20 times per year.
Great question. I just posted a similar question.
excellent. checking them out now.
How about making a barrel in 8.6 blackout in 12 inch long on ar 10 plateform
Carbon barrels, I have yet to be convinced, a recent series of tests on RUclips were pretty scary bad, particularly for the high cost !
Bro.. a little bit more expensive? 4 times a good standard barrel. That's just ridiculous.
I feel your pain. But you're getting what you pay for. The only problem I see is now that you can't blame the gun for a piss poor shot. Lol, you still have the ammo to blame it on. Other than that, it falls on you as a shooter.
Thankfully, I have some OG barrels that are tack-drivers. 😅 I would need a major upgrade in finances to merit re-barreling solid rigs.
@@duranbailiff5337 I agree 💯 %
2-3 for equal quality, and maybe 1.5x remotely comparable carbon fiber.
It's nice to know that there's companies out there innovating unfortunately for most of us we will never be able to afford to use those kind of barrels ...cool video tho
Are they able to make barrels for the SCAR-17? That would be cool to eliminate the SCAR's harmonics issue. It would also be amazing to make that gun even lighter and more accurate.
Seeing as the SCAR is already a pencil profile you're not likely going to shave much if any weight. On top of that the SCAR harmonic issues are primarily from the BCG moving through the upper receiver and banging back into the feed ramps which will still be metal.
@@RJBiteanerd I guess what I'm thinking of would be an effectively thicker, more rigid barrel for the same or less weight. They would probably have to make a 1 barrel run for it though because of the way it's torque screwed in. Probably be pretty expensive. Would be cool to do though.
The scars barrel isn't the problem
Wtf?!? Where are the 700 💵 AR barrel's?? all i see is 13 hundo....🤔
7:12 you know the only thing is if you shoot enough to give yourself a little bit of barrel droop or I think what Max really talking about is is heat shifting the barrel The thing you'll run into is your start hammering your rifling down because your rifling starts losing integrity first
I’m over 600rds on my ol bsf 6.5prc waypoint. Mostly maxed out handloads on the ragged edge and still goin strong..95gr v max I load over 3600fps and only shot 50-60rds but I have every rd logged so we’ll see what she runs out on. I looked those barrels up and I don’t remember em bein close to $1300. I priced each component of the waypoint and to me there a steal at $2200. I have same scope on it also 22x lht lightest I know of.
I would love to get a barrel for an AR 15 in 7.62x39 carbon fiber. 16-inch barrel with the ability to put a brake on it.
Best upgrade, mastering the fundamental's of shooting. ok moving on.
I'm buying at least one of these barrels.
You my friend are an idiot
Love the idea... hate the price. 😂
Maybe it is arbitrary... but I have a psychological block for an gun part costing more than $1000. 2x as accurate and 1/2 the weight: maybe it is worth 4x other quality barrels, but that is a lot of $$$.
Just a spoiler alert. At some point in five to six decades from now. Definitely before the end of the century. We have a version of carbon barrels with the ability to change the twist rates on the fly.
Also at some point. All ammo boxes will include the closest appropriate barrel twist rates based on velocity and bullet size/weight/bc information.
....no
Helix 6 barrels aren't even as good as PROOF Carbon barrels which are cheap by comparison. Don't get me wrong PROOF is expensive as hell but at least they actually work and have a patented method for adhering the carbon fiber properly
What's the difference between these new Helix 6 barrels and existing Proof Research barrels?
You obviously did not watch and listen. The information is in this presentation.
I put together my mega arms 6.5CM upper with a helix 6 barrel, it's accurate AF with anything you put through it, shoots fgmm like other barrels with handloads
I've got a pencil barrel from Ballistic advantage and it's a shooter... When it's in a vise or on a baracade. I've found that between the barrel and the carbon fiber handguard the front end is literally to light and just sways too much when not stabilized. I find myself just using my lightweight medium contour barrel. I couldn't imagine the troubles of an even lighter barrel
He didn't understand you were asking about a crown on the barrel. He was talking about shims or crush washers
Might be an option when i finish wearing down my m110 clone/ ar10 20" since that thing is a chunky
For the price, would my AK shoot sub-moa, & take glock mags?
First and foremost, get an upper receiver that is thermal fit. Helps give your barrel a fighting chance to squeeze out as much accuracy as possible.
I'm curious how the resin component holds up to heat from the barrel and degradation from the sun.
How thick is the actual steel barrel part where the rifling set
Can’t understand why this channel with the meter has stopped testing cans
English?
$1300 barrel.
If you're spending $10k/year on ammo and match fees, a $1300 barrel is not a huge lift. Different strokes for different folks... That having been said, I would not be the market for these barrels.
I think my last Proof barrel was over $900. That’s was several years ago.
Yes and?
For me if I'm spending that kind of money I'd love to see some tech going toward improving barrel life. seems like it turned out to be vaporware but the dracos barrels said they had longer life. For the average or even above average volume shooter out of reach.
@@bertpulaski2492 And that was Proof. Helix is worse quality and they're still charging $400 more
I’d love to hear your decision making process for choosing Federal Vs Hornady. If it comes to price point, I assume you won’t share, but it would be nice to know.
Hornady = fraud
Do we really want a rifle barrel and chamber made of metal wrapped carbon fiber? Just like the OceanGate submersible?
Yes we do, i have a number of proof research barrels and a helix 6 barrel and they're amazing shooters at significantly less weight. For a long range hunting rifle they're amazing
@@stackscustominc1 Thanks for replying, but I don't trust the technology....yet.
Yeah for $1600 ill grab a BA or Faxon or any other moa or better barrel for 300 bucks and spend that remaining 1300 on ammo. 95% of shooters arent going to be good enough for that .25 moa to even matter. Also i HIGHLY doubt these things have anywhere near the barrel life of a quality steel barrel. Its a 416r stainless core afterall.
Also, because the salesman is wrong about carbon fiber composites being thermally conductive, they hold the heat in longer on a fairly thin steel section. That will likely cause throats to erode faster than normal. How much faster? I don't know. I've yet to see anyone even investigate the mater, let alone do a thoroughly test it.
Didn't see anything for a mdr. Hunting with one of those in the white mountains makes me think an accurate carbon fiber barrel would be nice.
That money is just crazy I don’t know who can afford to just blow that kind of money
Fantastical
I want a 6 arc.
The one thing that I didn't hear was " How are they rifled " ?
Do you do 6mm max?
LOL
AUG barrels?
do they a barrel chambered for 7.62×39mm?
what is lights out?
It's amazing how much a quality barrel can tighten up those groups!
Do you even own a gun? All of your content could me made without even firing one shot, it's just slop wrapped in AI.
Is this a human or a robot ?
23:00 more like A LOT more expensive and a little bit more accurate-potentially
Do they make 22 long rifle barrels for the PRS and ARA style shooting
Do they have k11 barrel blanks?
What are the best upgrades for an M&p sport 3, trying to make it more high end, right now it’s just a bcm bolt carrier added, any suggestions?
$1600 for a barrel?!
carbon fiber shrinks as it gets hotter. the stainless liners grows. this dissimilar nature can cause seporation of the matterials and decreased accuracy.
"carbon fiber" is a composite material. carbon fiber and epoxy. like fiberglass.
the carbon is very thermally conductive but the epoxy makes up almost half of the composite is not that conductive.
generally they heat up slow and cool down slow.
when u "chip" the fiber it ruins it a lot more than scratching steel.
in short the mixture is extrememly important and not one military uses them as duty grade. they are benchrest queens
But can he make me a 6mm arc iwi tavor barrel?
22 ARC?
do best 1911's for 1500 or less plz!
Far outside my price range!!! Rather have another gun than a different barrel for an existing gun....
Very nice barrels but sixteen hundred for a 308 barrel no thank you.
Model 70
This is cringy AF! .....MAC actually told me in the comments like a year or so ago that they dont tell anyone what they should buy!....What the hell is this? It is telling people what they should buy. And please dont try to tell me MAC is not getting paid by Helix 6 for this video. Either in product or cash, he is getting paid to push this product. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON that ANYONE outside of competition, that ANYONE NEEDS a $1300 dollar barrel. So, of course, they need people like MAC to make you think you need this. Otherwise, they would only sell like 10 barrels a year to competitors.
Good grief dude, take your meds. This is nothing more than typical gun talk.
@heyman5525 FIrst of all sir, this is NOT Just typical gun talk, this is a paid advertisement, this is NOT just 2 old friends getting together to have a beer and the topic of stupidly expensive gun parts organically came up. No, not at all! Neither of these men would be in this video if they did not have some financial gain baked into it.....and 2nd I take ALL my meds before I even get out of bed in the morning! The nice lady from ward three comes on Tuesday and Thursday to bring them to me. The rest of the week, it is orderly Phil, who brings my meds, thank you very much!
He’s pointing out the hypocrisy.And just because something is “typical” whatever doesn’t make it good, ethical, appropriate, or even entertaining.
Everything you said is true 👍 that being said no one forced me to spend 1300.00 making a 10 22 ruger just the way I wanted it lol.
@johnbartlett7000 Ohh man, don't get me wrong, I am not trying to tell anyone not to spend their money the way they want to. I just have a big issue, with paid advertisements not declaring they are paid advertisements, and with Channels like The Military Arms Channel not disclosing the full picture to someone that comes across this video and maybe does not have the experience in building ARs or shooting that some of others of us have. Like if I new person to AR building watches this video, and thinks man I need that barrel because I want the best accuracy I can get, that person is not gonna necessarily understand that they can spend a fraction of that cost and get a barrel that will be way, way more accurate then they ever will be. A new person to shooting may not understand that they don't have the skills to make that barrel worth buying. And that a off the shelf nitride barrel, or chrome lined, etc. from faxon or rosco or a hundred other reputable barrel makers will still be far more accurate than they are and suit them better because it will be more durable and have a higher round count before degrading than the stainless carbon fiber barrels. .....But mostly it's the hypocrisy that pisses me off, and the gatekeeper attitude, MAC will dog on one brand for a small imperfection in a product, and then turn around and prop up companies that have a history of sh!tting the bed, in not small ways. I even remember him doing a video, where he was comparing a POF-USA REVOLUTION to a Sig 716DI showing the accuracy was similar and telling people he did not like the POF-USA gun because it was more expensive. And you could get the same accuracy out of the SIG for less money. ....not even bringing up that the Revolution was like 3lbs lighter and the same footprint of an AR15 had full ambi controls and a number of other components that made it more expensive to make. ...yet he then makes this video, which completely flies in the face of his attitude in the POF-USA vs. Sig video. Ok, I am done whinning like a little girl. Sorry about the long reply.
ok lets do a helix vs proof....
So just what is extremely accurate?
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Carbon fiber burns.
$851.49 for an AR Barrel???
Just to let you know, RUclips unsubscribed me from your channel and multiple other gun channels.
Cha ching! Too much money for the return.
If you're concerned about weight, start pumping iron instead of carbon fibre.
Zzzzz
A lot of hype, and no actual demonstration.
Talk is cheap without a representation of 30 shot groups , and Reloaders make ammunition for less money with better accuracy those that expect more from their equipment
It probably broke because it's so light and someone leaned against it. 😂
Cringe, this isn’t even properly carbon fiber jacketed. This is still just wrapped fairly traditionally, this is still gonna warp the barrel slightly as the barrel heats up. You need a carob fiber jacketed barrel where the carbon fiber is applied on a mandrill and then jacketed on the barrel. There’s more that goes into it too, but that’s the first step to getting one that is accurate
Most carbon fibers are only thermally conductive along the axis of the fiber. Pretty much all carbon fiber composites are much less thermally conductive than steel, especially perpendicular to the bore, which is the way heat naturally radiates because of the geometric properties of a barrel. Anyone who tells you different and doesn't have the testing to back it up is either ignorant or lying. This might be a fine product, but when the salesman is peddling in falsehoods, I loose my interest.
More ammo and a training class from a professional. Most $1000 AR’s can outshoot its operator, stop buying attachments and crap.
I never hear anyone talk about the line an upper must make with the barrel in relation to the scope. It all has to be inline and deviate in the least possible manner.
Don’t care. 4150CMV > almost anything else.
Crap products
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