Nice Work Man!!!!! I appreciate the opportunity to be along side all these great companies and to be represented in the video and industry. Outstanding video and one I know several have asked about and for. Thank You
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 I'm on month 4 of waiting for a Chad to surface so I can grab one. I'm still working with an ATS, which is a nice brake but I've heard the Chad is magic.
That's an interesting result to me. I live local to TBAC and was out shooting at the same range last year about this time just before they dropped the Magnus RR series. They were doing final checks on it and let me shoot it from their demo rifle. AI 308 running factory M118LR using the full sized Magnus RR off of a post with a bag. I was spotting my own hits at 100 with it without ears. A buddy also picked up the Magnus S RR SR and runs it on his 7mm RM Savage High Country for hunting. He finds it reduces recoil as much or slightly more than the factory brake and settles the rifle better than it as well.
Very impressive shooting and good video. I find it interesting that the free recoil shots didn’t affect the sight picture as dramatically as I anticipated they would. I’ll have to try this next time I’m at the range
Thank you for doing this video. I’ve been waiting on this exact comparison between the TBAC vs maverick since they announced it. I picked my maverick up the day before this video came out and I fell better about my purchase now.
Really appreciate this video content. Understanding the limitations of different products is a huge benefit to not have to pay out through trial and error. Derek, could you test Area 419 Hellfire Match, Sico Omega with brake like this? I know people are interested in both the sound perspective and from the recoil reduction perspective.
That would be a cool test. I have the old hybrid 46, not sure I could get my hands on the Omega. I'll have to do some digging on that one. Good idea though!
great vid! would love a dedicated video on the new 707R, been waiting on impact to release a more "affordable" round action and this is the first I've seen it in the wild
The Chad will strike your credit card without warning. Over 600 bucks with shipping. But thou shall not fret. Never in stock. They are extremely proud of that brake lol. I asked for a free one. He got mad. 🤷🏼♂️
Great video. I also have the CHAD, Maverick (short config), and RR-K and found the exact same results.. However, the RR-K works extremely well on a magnum cartridges.
The 153 A-tip is intriguing. The original 6.5 (6.5x55, developed in 1891) has long been favored by Scandinavian moose hunters in the Norma 156 gr Oryx, which is no longer available in the US (I have one box I have never shot, saving for a rainy day). The benefits of the high BC round and comfy-shooting cartridge continues to prove itself.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 I haven't tried the Bergers, but I have tried the A-tips. No real improvement over the 147 ELD-M (what I was shooting in PRS) out to 500yds, esp not enough to justify the difference in price.
This will be a fun one! I have been impressed with my Maverick so far using it competitively. I will definitely be getting a Thunderbeast for hunting/competitive shooting though!
Thanks for the comparison review. I just wish the maverick would have been represented without the extra baffle. But it's nice to see that even in the plus one configuration as tested here it's still on top.
@@nilescoyote4829 I totally agree. It literally made me sick to my stomach when he took the Suppressor cover off. I didn’t realize he had it in that configuration, but it was too late to go back and refilm. Either way lesson learned. Thanks for watching!
i think the CHAD would work better with a lighter barrel if it was jumping low rather than high. id be interested to see that muzzle break on a lighter barrel and overall lighter setup and see if it still jumps low.
@@The_GreenMachine really cool note. I’ll see if I can throw it on one in the future and maybe throw that in a video somewhere. Thanks for the comment!
@ I’m glad you touched on this topic cause like many I was tempted to trade in 6.5 for lesser recoil caliber but after this video I see there are ways to tame the Beast.
Ray at x ring just texted out all those cans for sound mitigation and man the race ready thunder east is dope. I called him to ask about that length management as well that sr really surprised me. Just sucks shooting for rugged right now I love my local support from them and can’t wait for them to design their modular baffle brake system
Didnt mean to start to watch it. After reading that this was done with a 6.5manbun, I had to leave the video. I think it should have been done with something like a 308 or 3006 at least.
@@Calcium-Carbide The K and Maverick sound nearly identical. Neither are hearing safe. The S is right on the edge. If you plug your left ear, you could probably leave your right ear without protection.
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 i am not so concerned about hearing safe. But i am trying to build up a NRL Hunter rifle. I currently shoot a lot of NRL22 and have heard CF just beats you up with the concussion by the end of the day. I am also planning to shoot teams so will likely have someone spotting my shots with me so want to edge toward more sound protection than recoil likely. Do you think the S might be good in this instance?
@ I do. But again, I will say if you have a partner, it’s not gonna be totally hearing safe. It made my left ear pop when I shot it. It’s right on the edge. Do you want to be completely safe? If so go with the Magnus supressor which is phenomenal. But the S is so close it’s probably what I would choose if I were building a rig like what you’re talking about.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 not planning on hearing safe, but would like to be happy with some in ear hearing protection that has pass through audio. Thought about straight magnus as well, but some recoil reduction seems nice. I wish it was easier to test setups without buying them.
@ if that’s what you’re looking for the S would be absolutely perfect. I’m gonna do some additional video work with it in the future, but for that sort of set up, it would be phenomenal.
It would be interesting to see you compare these supressors to some of the more lightweight options with brakes on the front. Such as the sico scythe or mack bros zenith. I wonder if the lightweight cans are "good enough" when weight matters in NRL or hunting.
@@EmpTy-kf2rq that wouldbe a fantastic test. Couple other guys have done that and the Magnus won. But yeah, I’d like to do it for myself for sure. Good idea.
@@MitchRapp01 Magnus was fantastic. The s-RR was right on the edge of being hearing safe. If anything I would plug my left ear and keep my right ear open in a NRL hunter type of competition. The other three werenot hearing safe. Thanks for watching!
I bought my impact 737r for 1287.00 out the door to my hands through bullet central 10% off. 1000 for the flat top + 70 tax + 20 shipping 15 ffl transfer= 1105 out the door. Even if you take 10% off that there is not that much diff. If it's 10% off ha ha. But seriously if you want a custom, you want integrated lug and rail.
@@OzzysPrecisionHunting I hear ya. Finishing four points higher in a match taking you from 10th place to top five would be worth at least one thousand extra on the prize table. Just a thought. Either way, thanks for watching!
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 tell your boys at TBAC to put their money where their claims are at and send them shitz to Pew Science! Doesn't get more unbiased third party than that.
Why do you talk about a G1 BC ? The G1 bc is for the flat base bullet I’m pretty sure you are shooting a modern boatail bullet which is the G7 standard . Just because the G1 standard shows a bigger number than the G7 standard it does not make it better , that’s not how things work .
@@levigne25 I fully understand that and the G7 scales intentions in its entirety. However, my audience does not. The majority of the shooting world and audience still uses the G1 so I wanted to use a comparison that would best communicate to the broader community.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 maybe you should make a video and educated them as to why the G7 over the G1 . The reason they go with the G1 it’s cause they see that big number .
@ agreed. That’s something I usually go over in my classes. Although when you compare side-by-side on the actual data output, even though the two scales are drastically different in design, the outcome to 1200 yards is Erie similar as far as the dope both gives you.
@ I have an AR10 I put together, right now I only have a 18 inch 308 upper (more of a DMR style than anything else), but the only suppressor I have is a Dead Air Sandman L
Man, I’m not sure comparing a Chad to a suppressor is reasonable. I think the point of the cans is to reduce abuse to the shooter. Which the chad is awful at. It’s like asking if a Prius can tow as well as an f150…
It's not. But more than anything I was trying to let everyone see through the scope what sort of results you can expect from each of the top tier new tech. Then let them decide based on their wants/needs in a rifle setup. Hopefully the video did that.
Nice Work Man!!!!! I appreciate the opportunity to be along side all these great companies and to be represented in the video and industry. Outstanding video and one I know several have asked about and for. Thank You
Thank you! That barrel was a hammer!
I've been wanting a look at all of these in comparison. Great video, this thing delivers!
Thanks brother....I'm the same way. I couldn't wait to get my hands on these to do the review. Thanks for watching!!
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 I'm on month 4 of waiting for a Chad to surface so I can grab one. I'm still working with an ATS, which is a nice brake but I've heard the Chad is magic.
That was a great video dude.
@@paramounttactical thank you very much. Really appreciate your comment.
@@paramounttactical I love your channel by the way! You guys do tremendous reviews… I was literally watching your review on the Arken last night.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 thanks. I’ll bring doing an update/long term review of the Arken. It’s far less favorable than the initial.
@ I look forward to seeing it!
That's an interesting result to me. I live local to TBAC and was out shooting at the same range last year about this time just before they dropped the Magnus RR series. They were doing final checks on it and let me shoot it from their demo rifle.
AI 308 running factory M118LR using the full sized Magnus RR off of a post with a bag. I was spotting my own hits at 100 with it without ears.
A buddy also picked up the Magnus S RR SR and runs it on his 7mm RM Savage High Country for hunting. He finds it reduces recoil as much or slightly more than the factory brake and settles the rifle better than it as well.
@@martrg1 that’s awesome. They are fantastic products, no doubt.
Very impressive shooting and good video. I find it interesting that the free recoil shots didn’t affect the sight picture as dramatically as I anticipated they would. I’ll have to try this next time I’m at the range
@@ethanwynn6971 yes. Many believe free recoil actually induces less on the gun. I happen to be one of those people. You should test it out.
Great video, DD!!!! That black and blue looks legit!
Yes it does!
Thank you for doing this video. I’ve been waiting on this exact comparison between the TBAC vs maverick since they announced it. I picked my maverick up the day before this video came out and I fell better about my purchase now.
@@hankcampbell959 they’re all great products…I’m certain you won’t be disappointed though!
Really great video man! Thank you for sharing
@@texas22jack89 thank you. Thanks for watching and for commenting!
I'm so stoked to watch this one
Thanks brother.....just trying to keep up with the .300 BO at 1k influencers!
Been waiting on this one a long time!
Thanks for watching!
Very good episode! Thanks for comparing it all and giving some of the best actual data on guntube!💪🏽🙌🏽
Appreciate you!
I dig the video and production!
@@metrobadger thank you. Thank you for watching!
Really appreciate this video content. Understanding the limitations of different products is a huge benefit to not have to pay out through trial and error. Derek, could you test Area 419 Hellfire Match, Sico Omega with brake like this? I know people are interested in both the sound perspective and from the recoil reduction perspective.
That would be a cool test. I have the old hybrid 46, not sure I could get my hands on the Omega. I'll have to do some digging on that one. Good idea though!
Having owned an Omega and Harvester, the Anchor brake is essentially worthless.
@ I too own those…I will say, these work significantly better than the Harvester
great vid! would love a dedicated video on the new 707R, been waiting on impact to release a more "affordable" round action and this is the first I've seen it in the wild
@@robbyrazzer yes sir. More to come on that for sure. Thank you for the comment.
Interesting test. I like the through-scope video.
Thank you!
Zermatt was making prefit actions before impact. But still love them
@@maurygold74 zermatt has the floating boldface. Still a great option though for sure!
I'm running a 22 creed on the new 707r. Absolutely love it.
@@kylefelkner that sounds like a killer set up!
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 are we able to buy new bolt faces for different calibers?
@ yes sir. It’ll be using the same bolts as his other models in the short action.
The Chad will strike your credit card without warning. Over 600 bucks with shipping. But thou shall not fret. Never in stock. They are extremely proud of that brake lol. I asked for a free one. He got mad. 🤷🏼♂️
@@dhooter I think they’re working on a batch right now. Should hopefully have a new full quantity before long.
Great video. I also have the CHAD, Maverick (short config), and RR-K and found the exact same results.. However, the RR-K works extremely well on a magnum cartridges.
@@NiteQwill_ great notes, thanks for the comment!
The 153 A-tip is intriguing. The original 6.5 (6.5x55, developed in 1891) has long been favored by Scandinavian moose hunters in the Norma 156 gr Oryx, which is no longer available in the US (I have one box I have never shot, saving for a rainy day). The benefits of the high BC round and comfy-shooting cartridge continues to prove itself.
@@refugium-eco indeed!
I've had better results from Berger 153.5s in my 6.5PRC than the A-tips
@ interesting. Thank you for that feedback. Have you ever tried them in the 65 Creedmoor?
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 I haven't tried the Bergers, but I have tried the A-tips. No real improvement over the 147 ELD-M (what I was shooting in PRS) out to 500yds, esp not enough to justify the difference in price.
@ good note!
good video buddy. I wonder how the results would differ overall with several more shooters involved?
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thanks J Dubya!!! That’s a really good question. I’d like to see that too.
I'll take the Chad. Sick paint job BTW.
@@refugium-eco thanks brother!
Nice review 🎯👍
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
This will be a fun one! I have been impressed with my Maverick so far using it competitively. I will definitely be getting a Thunderbeast for hunting/competitive shooting though!
Yes....I'm looking forward to trying them in some hunting g scenarios too
Chad,Bradley,CRB,TCS 💥🔨 got the same set up in 25GT
@@Mkkboi that’s awesome….I’m sure that thing shoots!
Thanks for the comparison review. I just wish the maverick would have been represented without the extra baffle. But it's nice to see that even in the plus one configuration as tested here it's still on top.
@@nilescoyote4829 I totally agree. It literally made me sick to my stomach when he took the Suppressor cover off. I didn’t realize he had it in that configuration, but it was too late to go back and refilm. Either way lesson learned. Thanks for watching!
Great video
@@georgepettit9208 thank you!
i think the CHAD would work better with a lighter barrel if it was jumping low rather than high. id be interested to see that muzzle break on a lighter barrel and overall lighter setup and see if it still jumps low.
@@The_GreenMachine really cool note. I’ll see if I can throw it on one in the future and maybe throw that in a video somewhere. Thanks for the comment!
I’ve heard this before and I’m more convinced to keep my 6.5
@@ProjectArms4719 I was shocked by the results!
@ I’m glad you touched on this topic cause like many I was tempted to trade in 6.5 for lesser recoil caliber but after this video I see there are ways to tame the Beast.
@ awesome! Thanks for watching!
See my comments.
tbkrr looked like best groups
@@365maga1 it and the Chad seem to have the best groups with the factory ammo
Ray at x ring just texted out all those cans for sound mitigation and man the race ready thunder east is dope. I called him to ask about that length management as well that sr really surprised me. Just sucks shooting for rugged right now I love my local support from them and can’t wait for them to design their modular baffle brake system
@@TacticalTarzan-sm7ds yes I really enjoy his videos
Didnt mean to start to watch it. After reading that this was done with a 6.5manbun, I had to leave the video. I think it should have been done with something like a 308 or 3006 at least.
If you were competing at a heavy clip I think the video would land in a more relevant way.
Hmm that srr has my attention
@@chrisfisher3900 they shocked me!
Appreciated the comparison, but I was hoping for some more information about the sound suppression. How did the TBAC compare to Maverick with sound?
@@Calcium-Carbide The K and Maverick sound nearly identical. Neither are hearing safe. The S is right on the edge. If you plug your left ear, you could probably leave your right ear without protection.
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 i am not so concerned about hearing safe. But i am trying to build up a NRL Hunter rifle. I currently shoot a lot of NRL22 and have heard CF just beats you up with the concussion by the end of the day. I am also planning to shoot teams so will likely have someone spotting my shots with me so want to edge toward more sound protection than recoil likely. Do you think the S might be good in this instance?
@ I do. But again, I will say if you have a partner, it’s not gonna be totally hearing safe. It made my left ear pop when I shot it. It’s right on the edge. Do you want to be completely safe? If so go with the Magnus supressor which is phenomenal. But the S is so close it’s probably what I would choose if I were building a rig like what you’re talking about.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 not planning on hearing safe, but would like to be happy with some in ear hearing protection that has pass through audio. Thought about straight magnus as well, but some recoil reduction seems nice. I wish it was easier to test setups without buying them.
@ if that’s what you’re looking for the S would be absolutely perfect. I’m gonna do some additional video work with it in the future, but for that sort of set up, it would be phenomenal.
The Chad looks exactly like a baffle stack lol
Interesting....yeah, kind of.
It actually is, and then its all laser welded together after
@ knowledge
My CRB barrel is the most accurate barrel I own at the moment. Which is impressive because I have some tack drivers right now.
That's awesome....but doesn't suprise me at all. Those boys know accuracy like no other.
Awesome. Now just tame my 28 Nosler 😳
@@xforce708 hahaha that’s a much bigger ask!
@ I still want it to happen
😂🤣😂🤣😂
@ maybe the Thunder Beast 338 can?
@ need to find one to try. My Area 419 Sidewinder tamed it pretty well. If I could suppress and match that it’d be great
@ nice!
Heck yeah! Great video and it's true - we need Jesus!
@@djarecke thank you!
Ok I’m confuses wth barrel is it then. Crb or wh
@@chrisfisher3900 it’s a CRB barrel (make) that was cut by H&W
Derek D looking hot yet again
I do my best to keep the quality info and sex appeal flowing!
It would be interesting to see you compare these supressors to some of the more lightweight options with brakes on the front. Such as the sico scythe or mack bros zenith.
I wonder if the lightweight cans are "good enough" when weight matters in NRL or hunting.
@@FightingTexasAggie great idea…. That would make a cool lightweight video
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 love the content and the approach to the comparison. Looking for to more videos from you.
@ thank you!
I think you need to compare the TBAC Magnus with the PTR Vent1 and the CAT JL to see which is the quietest.
@@EmpTy-kf2rq that wouldbe a fantastic test. Couple other guys have done that and the Magnus won. But yeah, I’d like to do it for myself for sure. Good idea.
What were the sound suppression preferences of these cans? Did I miss where you talked about it?
@@MitchRapp01 Magnus was fantastic. The s-RR was right on the edge of being hearing safe. If anything I would plug my left ear and keep my right ear open in a NRL hunter type of competition. The other three werenot hearing safe. Thanks for watching!
I shoot 195 berger in 7 prc with a 3 port brake and spot my shots, no problem
@@cpreit8862 that’s awesome! How heavy is your gun? What distance are we taking?
I bought my impact 737r for 1287.00 out the door to my hands through bullet central 10% off. 1000 for the flat top + 70 tax + 20 shipping 15 ffl transfer= 1105 out the door. Even if you take 10% off that there is not that much diff. If it's 10% off ha ha. But seriously if you want a custom, you want integrated lug and rail.
@@blazinggsx dang that’s a whale of a deal on the 737!
Badass, but $580 for a muzzle brake ouch, yes I know it’s high quality product, I’ll stick to my mdt
@@OzzysPrecisionHunting I hear ya. Finishing four points higher in a match taking you from 10th place to top five would be worth at least one thousand extra on the prize table. Just a thought. Either way, thanks for watching!
I agree with you on that
@ yessir…. Thanks for watching!
What about the DDC Enticer L-TI as the quietest?
I haven't seen definitive proof of that over the Magnus. But would love to test that can. It looks really promising!
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 tell your boys at TBAC to put their money where their claims are at and send them shitz to Pew Science! Doesn't get more unbiased third party than that.
@ hahaha I hear ya! I don’t have any boys at thunder beast unfortunate. I borrowed or bought all these cans myself.
so is it a HW barrel or CRB barrel? I am confused. Am i restared?
@@JewJitsutherealJitsu CRB is the barrel and H&W did the chambering.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 ahhh got it. Thanks!
@ thanks for watching!
Which one sounded better? Tbac or area419?
@@TheTyrider427 neither. Neither were hearing safe.
@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 didn't expect them to be hearing safe with a big brake on them. But of the two, which sounded better?
@ honestly man, I wish I could answer your question better. Sorry, with hearing protection in there wasn’t any distinguishable difference.
Why do you talk about a G1 BC ? The G1 bc is for the flat base bullet I’m pretty sure you are shooting a modern boatail bullet which is the G7 standard . Just because the G1 standard shows a bigger number than the G7 standard it does not make it better , that’s not how things work .
@@levigne25 I fully understand that and the G7 scales intentions in its entirety. However, my audience does not. The majority of the shooting world and audience still uses the G1 so I wanted to use a comparison that would best communicate to the broader community.
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935
maybe you should make a video and educated them as to why the G7 over the G1 . The reason they go with the G1 it’s cause they see that big number .
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 your video is well put together by the way 👍
@ agreed. That’s something I usually go over in my classes. Although when you compare side-by-side on the actual data output, even though the two scales are drastically different in design, the outcome to 1200 yards is Erie similar as far as the dope both gives you.
@ thank you, good sir!
Who uses G1 BC for rifle bullets? And 6.5 Creed has no recoil. Should have done this test with a bigger cartridge. 300WM, 338 Lapua, 30 SOTEX, etc...
@@fusionvic not shooting off a 2“ x 2“ barricade at 575 yards.
@fusionvic Use your head. Who is using any of the calibers you mentioned in competition?
Try orienting the TBACs brake vertical. It’s completely different
Interesting…I’ll have to try that out
12/6 orientation is the way to go.
@ I’ll check that out, for sure!
@@longrangeprecisionshooters8935 if you go back to Sam’s video you showed on here you can barely see he has it the brake vertical :)
@ very cool. Yeah, I’ll definitely check that out. I’m going to be doing some more video content with it in the future. Thanks for the heads up!
I still can’t afford it
The game ain't cheap....I'll agree with you there!
@ I have an AR10 I put together, right now I only have a 18 inch 308 upper (more of a DMR style than anything else), but the only suppressor I have is a Dead Air Sandman L
@ yeah I’ve heard from multiple people I trust that’s a dang good Suppressor. Sounds like a good set up to me.
@ it’s pretty quiet, but it’s DAMN long, makes my 7.5 inch AR pistol look like a full size AR15
@ yes sir. But dang they’re cool.
Your arms aren’t tattooed enough therefore street cred is low. 😂
Finally a legitimate critic! True!!! I need some ink
Had no recoil would move it hat much.
@@tomforeman4976 thanks for watching
Man, I’m not sure comparing a Chad to a suppressor is reasonable. I think the point of the cans is to reduce abuse to the shooter. Which the chad is awful at. It’s like asking if a Prius can tow as well as an f150…
It's not. But more than anything I was trying to let everyone see through the scope what sort of results you can expect from each of the top tier new tech. Then let them decide based on their wants/needs in a rifle setup. Hopefully the video did that.
I see two chads 🤙🤙🤙
the Chad!!!!