Ireland will need to continue to ride their luck to win the World Cup | BRIAN O'DRISCOLL
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Ireland rode their luck against South Africa, which is exactly what they will need to do to win this World Cup, says Brian O'Driscoll. | ☘️
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I'm a springbok fan through and through and the bias in my eye always favors the boks but it was a hellava physical game with great intensity from both sides for 80 minutes...this is how we bok fans respect other teams by matching us at our strengths..THE GREATEST Irish team by far..your victory is fully deserved ...
Fair play. It was one hell of a game of Rugby. Really could have gone either way. If you kicked your points and we hit our lineout it could have been anyone's game.
From another South African, I fully concur.
If different things had happened it might have been a different result 😮
Same could be said for any game of rugby.
Exactly! If Ireland hadn't butchered several lineouts in their 22 we could have been out of sight. Ifs and buts.
If I'd picked the winning lottery numbers last week I'd be a multi millionaire.
Iread that somewhere before. haha
very deep
This was by *FAR* the strongest & best Irish team the Springboks have *EVER* played in their 117 years (28 matches)!
Well played the Irish!
@@wlk2408no you're right as they were clearly holding back.
@@wlk2408 I'm not insisting they tried to lose on purpose or anything crazy like that. I think the boks played to win but with a very limited game plan which had a 2 fold intention. Intentions were to give Mannie pressure kicking experience in a game that doesn't matter and to hold card close to chest for real knock out games. Why else would SA with 7 fresh forwards only start using rolling mauls in the last 5 minutes of the game. Why when SA locks were winning Irish lineouts did they just stop contending for them. These are very odd choices by the team and coaching staff and need to be considered. Look Ireland might have been holding a few things back themselves and this all just speculation of course. But end of the day SA coaching staff are not stupid so why give away all you card in a nothing game.
@@wlk2408 still.so.much to enjoy from this tournament and who know what's coming. I doubt Scotland can't beat Ireland and I'm confident SA should get a bonus point against Tonga but this is not guaranteed.
@@wlk2408 I worry most for the boks as the pressure to produce a bonus point against against a physical nothing to loose tongan side without injury might be tough. Also we will have an out of form pollard in that game.
I agree with you guys. SA did not use the same method in their came against Ireland, as the one against Nieu Zealand.
They were definitely testing Ireland and where were the TMO with the late/high tackle.
But we leave it alone .Ireland has won and it was the best WC game up to now.
If we meet the again, they will experience a different Springbok team.
Mack Hansen was taken out off the ball for SA try that's 7 points gone.
JVDF had his hand stamped on, yellow card likely if picked up.
If SA 55+ kick doesn't awkwardly bounce off the post SA don't get massive free pressure.
If Ireland take the easy 3 points from tee rather than going for a7 with 5m linouts (that malfunction) thats likely 6 more points on top of the 5 lead.
If South Africa are caught boring in and up on scrum no penalty for them.
SA rode their luck.
So all the what if stuff is pretty silly
What a feckin' whining Sook..
Mack Hansen wasn't close to the try scorer and in no potential position to defend that try
doesn't matter he is taken out off the ball, intentional block.@@BiltonginParis
I counted 7 offsides by SA, 3 high tackles, 2 no arms, none called by the NZ ref/NZ TMO....go figure!
@@BiltonginParisDoesn’t matter. Can’t take a player off the ball. Opinion doesn’t matter because it’s there in simple English.
Rugby laws section 9 (Foul Play)
14.
“A player must not tackle an opponent who is not in possession of the ball.”
Sanction: penalty.
Brian spending for to much time in the ITV studio again with the old luck of the Irish stuff. PSDT got hit off the ball well so did Mack Hanson after Bernies kick down field. It was a game made for the Boks slow low ball in play and Ireland won more moments could have gone either way but there you go.
I used to hate ben okeefe before this game but i gotta admit hes converted me. The game never lagged, not once. No cards or injuries. Pretty incredible considering this was south africa, the most physical team on the planet. He should be happy with himself and i wouldnt be surprised if hes selected for a knock out game.
This is one of those games that made me wish I followed rugby in general to full appreciate it. It was a brilliant match to watch as a casual fan
Infringements in line out not picked up, late tackles on JS not addressed. We won no need to dwell on anything else.
Tackles on JS legit and legal (height and timing wise).
He took it well though. 👍
Think SA did a lot that wasn’t picked up , on top of the line out. Don’t think this was a fluke at all. Think both teams left bits out there. You can counter that saying if we got a few of the line outs we could have came away with points
Lots could be said here and there but all just speculation. Like for instance I truly believe watching Rassie constantly telling team to go for kicks and not touch that he was trying to give Manie more pressure experience while holding back crucial parts of the boks game plan. After all why would you not tell a team with 7 fresh forwards to use their most successful weapon in the driving maul until the dying minutes of the game? But like I said this is just my speculation.
@@prudeuncle I think if you are trying to say that they intentionally wanted to lose the game, or intentionally didn’t want to win it, that’s not true and I don’t think you could convince me otherwise. These are the world champions in a World Cup. Looking at rassie and co throughout the game, they looked intent on winning
@@pityfool23 I don't think they were trying to lose the game no. The players gave it everything they had but the game plan was simplified to give Manie maximum exposure to pressure kicks and minimum use of driving maul trys to keep those tactics under wraps. Hence why at the end of the match they finally started kicking to touch and going for driving maul to try to get the win. It's just speculation as the coaches arnt stupid and surely would understand that a huge benefit of having a 7-1 bench is for set piece like scrums and driving mauls. This is how we thrashed NZ. So my thinking this there has to be a very good reason this was not attempted in this game.
clutching at straws. Ireland are not NZ. Superior forwards and defensive maul which if you recall to the Dublin game last November is why SA went for kicks. They also have a great and legal defensive lineup unlike SA who were closing the gap all game and not being reffed.@@prudeuncle
@@mollyoko mate I can mention many bad calls from the ref on both sides more in your favour so let's just leave the r f out of the conversation.
I’m starting to get very bored with mr oh Driscolls analysis. Much better out there guys, much much better. Let him off to play golf.
Have to say i disagree brian, sa took beirne out off the ball twice in the 1st half alone
Jesse Kriel also made an illegal tackle on Hansen off the ball which prevented him from tackling Manie Libbok which lead to the South African try. I have seen these tries disallowed for similar situations.
As a genuine neutral I’d argue Ireland did get the better of the refereeing decisions. SA would’ve missed the penalties though so probs didn’t affect the result 😂
Actually I didn't see that video, "the Black jersey" brought it to my attention a few days ago on his video, however I think the point is, that both teams got away with infringements, not just Ireland. I think it all balanced out in the end anyway. and we got a good game. the Real winner was Rugby. Same to you, good luck for the remainder of the competition.@@Mark777h
@@TheContrarianMindBlack jersey tries to be too technical and gets most of his predictions wrong
The SA try was a forward pass…go back and look! No one is talking about it
It was a brutal contest, for the full 80, by both sides. The big difference between the sides, was SA didn't have a reliable goal kicker. They will fix that problem before we meet again with Pollard coming on. How do you beat a side with a good kicker? Don't give away any penalties.
BOD seems to be ignoring that we had a gimme 3pts and kicked for the corner, blew the lineout and then they broke up the field and got 3 pts. So there's a 6pt swing. And then we butchered 3 more attacking lineouts. So it very easily could have been 10-nil to us early doors also.
in other words: don't get too carried away ireland
Can't see them passing the all blacks in the quarters
I seem to recall All blacks winning a very lucky final in 2011 with some very suspect ref calls. Every winning team rides their luck in tight games.
Nothing like this or 2007 weak comparison the NH have the refs in their pocket
@@Trajan2401😂😂🙈 souther hemisphere are losing there minds!
The game was won by ireland on small moments and their ability to absorb the Boks pressure.
The boks had their fair share of chances which maybe on a different day they would have cashed in on.
As a neutral fan i thought both teams got away with a good few situations where i was sure the TMO was going to get involved.
Either way it was a fantastic spectacle and i dont think anyone could begrudge these two having a rematch in a months time
Yes he did get involved by rushing the ref for the south African try get on with the conversion
Because he knew if all the angles went up on the big screen it no try lreland penalty
Im a kiwi, luck had nothing to do with it. Great game, deserved
Luck like that is only going to happen once especially against a time like South Africa.
Do they do time travelling now?
It would have been more a rub of the green if the ref had spotted SA closing the gaps at the lineouts on the 5 meter line and around the 22 and instead we potentially go at least 14 nil up.
Sexton, Doris and porter need to stay fit for us to win.
And Hugo keenan
I think jimmy o brien is good enough to plug that hole
@Mr.Mxyzptlk-xc7ve Jimmy hasn't been given any opportunities yet though, but he is a very good player. IF we get over Scotland and then NZ, we should be thinking about winning it. Huge chance
@Mr.Mxyzptlk-xc7ve I disagree he's vulnerable under the high ball. That warm up game he played he didn't go that well you may get away with it against most opposition but not the springbok, France or the all blacks. Keenan is hugely important.
This was an epic test match in the mould of test matches from yesteryear.
Make no mistake even if boks won Ireland would still have confidence in winning the WC just as boks still feel they can win it.
AB beat boks with lot more confidence in their pool game in Japan Boks still went on to win in end.
And boks beat England in 2007 eith large margin in pool and thet met again in final.
So still lots to play for for all teams in other pools as well
What about south Africa closing the line in the line out Ireland should have got penalty s out of that
Was there a stamping on JVDF? Think the ref was keen for cards not to dominate the game.
Who gave Jonny Sexton the small black bottle during the game. He tried to hide it looking at ref for when it was safe to drink.
Fafs deliberate knock on could have been yellow seen them given...the stomp on van de fliers hand...red at least...not even checked
What about the start, ireland had they should've taken there own 3 points instead of going for the corner
Correct.
Great team played bounce of the ball ,luck,
I'm worried for Ireland because if you look close their should of been many penalties for SA, just hope the ref will be good to them at the quarter finals (ref are very strict at quarter finals)
don't be worried. SA were illegal all game in many departments including their try when Hansen is block by Kriel off the ball. Ireland are just a better team.
If we broke every phase down there would be an alternate thought. Let the game be as it was, we won. I’ve watched hours and hours of analyse of this game and all I’ve come up with is we won but have won nothing yet. I have all the faith we can do it, stop over analysing like me 😂
Yo, there was an obvious off the ball tackle on Hanson in the 75th minute or thereabouts and it should of been a penalty but the ref ignored it while the crowds were protesting over it. It's true, we will need to keep running our luck but we have the luck of the Irish and that is all the luck we ever need. Come on Ireland!☘️🏆🇮🇪
Scrums were badly officiated numerous times Irish played touching the ground and this was ignored. If you watch closely last maul was illegally collapsed on the try line by Aki which should have been a penalty try. We can argue for days over this stuff. The bottom line is with the nature of the result Ireland have won the battle but not the war.
I think BOD is being very ' neutral' to enhance his TV punditry career, not a single TMO replay all night and lots of debatable tackles etc. If Ireland secure their first line out, then points possible and Ireland could be points up, it was a real arm wrestle though.
I think what he is stressing is that the game could have gone either way which really is the truth. If I was in the Ireland team I would be so sure the next game against the boks would be a forgone conclusion.
@@prudeuncle I disagree, no Ireland player or pundit think they will get an easy win against the boks in any game, although they neutralised the boks power by absorbing bigger men and winning the breakdown, boks defence is fast and very powerful, but likely some opportunities missed to find gaps next time.
@@geoffnelson6756 opportunities missed on both sides. But what I can't stop thinking about is a team that uses driving mauls as bread and butter why wasn't this used till the last 5 minutes. I mean we were dominating lineouts. It's only speculation but I honestly believe Rassie was showing the traffic light telling them to go for kicks for 2 reasons. Giving Manie pressure kicking experience and holding cards close to chest regarding maul attack formations. There really is no other explanation. Why would you use a 7-1 split bench and not go for touch when your winning lineouts? Hopefully we get a rematch in the finals if at all possible and we will see.
@@prudeuncle 100% agree with that, it would be a ridiculous gamble to risk losing this game, on the basis that should they meet again they will have a Trump card to play, but perhaps Rassie felt they could win with the kicking tactic, Libbok Is sublime kickng from hand, and the kicks from the 'T' will likely just come right all of a sudden, but the SA players and management will feel confident should they meet again, but really anything could happen to sway the result for either team
@@geoffnelson6756 agreed chances are Ireland were holding a few things back as well.
Do you know who else was lucky...glenda gilson not having to listen to him anymore
Ireland dropped the ball on the line aswell and could have kicked a few points,All if's and but's
BRIAN - JUST GIVE IT OVER - STILL MAKING MONEY !!!! WE DO NOT NEED NEGATIVITY ??? AS WELL AS OTHER GUESTS PLEASE PLEASE IRELAND WON SO WHAT !!! IRELAND NOT INTERESTED IN YOU - LASHING ????
Lucky ref was not Wayne Barnes. 😅
Finally some balanced punditry out of Ireland (not a bok fan). Well done BOD. I’m a neutral and have watch the game twice now. SA better in almost every department. Ireland should have had 2 yellow cards in first 15 mins
Would you give over? If the stamp on Van De Flier was picked up it was a red. Unbearable SA fans as usual.
Sombre Staffers and the Irish???
With 7 forwards on the bench you kick for penalties instead of the corner? Boks have the strongest maul in the competition and we had to wait till the last 2 min to see the first 1? And apparently Rassie told the locks to stop competing for the ball at the line out, which they did, all round very strange behavior. Rassie is up to something again. Everything is a tactic to him. He changed the game plan for this one, while trying to conceal the ace that's up his sleeve. If he plays it at the right time we win, of not we lose. Fate as he says.
Ouboet, jy weet daai Klipspatcher het 'n plan - hy het al die permutations uitgecheck - hy weet wat hy doen!
You guys talk like rassie is a messiah or something he's nothing but a sook if he doesn't get his way
@@Trajan2401shut up it's a very valid question as to why certain decisions were made. Maybe you should stop focusing on the boks and worry about you declining All Blacks.
@@Trajan2401 True, but statistics don't have emotions
Captain hindsight 🦸♂️
The boks also rode their luck. Try was forward pass. They had many no arms tackles. Van der flier had his hand stamped on which could of ended up a red card. Offside at the rucks. Closing the distance in line-out. Call out both teams "Luck" brian..... O Driscoll was a far better player than he is a pundit
You also missing the point
Absolute legend first Irishman I have heard talk about this, just love his insight. He is so right I agree I think Ireland did get the overall rub of the green but even with that we should have won with a kicker so it was our fault. Fair play to Ireland got out with a win.
The kicker again
The luckiest thing was they didn't put the south African try on the big screen
@@johnmcintyre800or the Irish try on the big screen. ;) Or the neck roll by JGP, or or or 😂 so many things from both sides.
France would be easier for Ireland don't they remember the 46 point hammering they had off the all blacks in 2019
Thank goodness we aren't going back in time to play them in 2019!!
BEST TEAM EVER !!!
Best Irish team ever. Let's not get carried away there my little potato.
How did they do
@@tevildo45 SH 2 NH 0. As a bok supporter I'm worried about France I do think France will take win specially with home game host advantage but then again I did think Wales and Ireland were going to win tonight's games.
Wow
Lets focus on nz qf
9 drs
At least O'Driscoll is willing to admit that it was a fluke!
ARE YOU ON DRUGS
16 wins in a row now is it. Must be the luckiest team ever at this stage.
Sort your life out
@@ttam1217 we will find out in the nxt 2 games wont we!
I suppose you have to find something to make yourself relevant. Thoes boys stood up , not like other teams.
Noticed that BOD and Flannery have been major downers on Ireland's achievements in this game. "rub of the green", "rode our luck" etc. Could be jealousy that although they were great players, they were part of an Irish team that wasn't capable of even a fraction of what this Ireland team is acheiving.
Maybe they knew what they were talking about
Props to BoD for willingness to say the unpopular blooming obvious.
You know its your day when you get 6 points vs 0 from scrum penalties while holding on for dear life when not collapsing, or when your center collapses the match-winning maul from the side and lifting the opponent’s leg.
Nevertheless, Ireland are a truly great side and played with exceptional craftiness and admirable physical bravery.
We must improve and be good enough to win without the 70/30 calls and below going against us.
Better still, let's start a Go Fund Me collection for victims and those with victim mentality like you.
@olivermahon9509 can we set one up for you now cos the bottlers bottled it like they always do
SA was robbed at the end of the game ,that maul was definitely a penalty at the end there and the ball was out and he ended the game .Sorry but the ref favoured the Irish ,period
You guys all attacking BOD for his legitimate comments. He isnt saying ireland are crap he is simply pointing out that the game really could have gone either way which most neutral supporters would agree. Both sides can bring up bad call by officials but yhe result is what it is. I think Irish fans should stop worrykng about what the result means and rather ask themselves why sprinboks only chose to use rolling mauls in the last 5 minutes of the game. Maybe ask themselves why locks stipped contending for irish lineouts when they were winning them? Or you can remain ignorant to those oddities and be totally shocked when the boks play you again and dont use yhe same limited game plan.
Might have been the fact that Ireland have an excellent maul defence, and that the ref spotted the Boks (Etzebeth specifically) kept infringing to compete for the first few lineouts and ended it.
@@rmagfhloinn I'm just speculating mate but yea I doubt that was the reason. The fact that they finally started pushing for driving mauls towards the end when they realised they were going to lose kind of indicates otherwise to me.
yet they didn't score off one lol ...@@prudeuncle
south africa will win it