Dutch Van Der Linde Tribute - I Tried To Fight Change
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Dutch in my opinion was a good person. It just broke him seeing Hosea die and knowing Arthur was going to die. Not to mention he probably wouldn’t have been the way he was in the end if it wasn’t for Micha whispering in his ear.
Jaded Inc I think hoseas death was the thing that made him snap, because it was his fault aswell because he wanted to do the heist
I relate to the good side of him
Jaded Inc Unfortunately I believe Dutch was always a bad person. He just surrounded himself with good people because he knew it would do them all more good. When he lost Hosea and knew Arthur wasn’t going to be around much longer, all he had left was Micah whispering in his ear, and then Cleet and Joe. It’s all so sad 😥We just saw him spiral down and down into more and more chaos until John was tasked with hunting him down. Then his story finally came to an end at the bottom of the cliff at the fort in Cochinary...
He lost it when he began to realise that his "cause" (the gang) was coming apart. He had built the gang with Hosea and rebelled against the establishment (which is all he ever did). He couldn't give up fighting. I imagine Red Dead 3 will be about Dutch in the height of the wild west. Perhaps we will see why he was like this. Could be really interesting, and exploring stuff like the rivalry with Colm killing his girlfriend etc. He sided with Micah in the end because he was the only one who wanted to keep the gang together, Dutch cared about everyone in the gang but cared more about the idea the gang represented, as he was a revolutionary. Arthur and John wanted out, so that's why he gave up his sons to keep the cause alive.
I liked dutch more after going back for the muneh
"I got a plan john." "You've always got a plan Dutch." Rdr2 made that mean so much more
Great line
Can I join your gang
I don't doubt it
@@alexzanderschwieger9938 mayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybe r u a rat
@@johnnycashmusic4920 nonsense...loyalty is everything
I know Dutch went crazy in the end, but dude, you can 100% tell he was GUTTED when Arthur died at the end. His facial expressions when Arthur says Micah is a rat, you can tell he is absolutely destroyed by seeing his “son” dying and knowing he chose the wrong side.
Blank Shape yea I feel like his mindset was that he'd already gone past the point of no return and he felt regret, that's why he tried to redeem himself by siding with john way at the end of the epilogue when he shot Micah
That was so sad. It's amazing thinking that Arthur gave his final strength to stop Micah and at least save what's left of the gang but he died trying. He fought to make things right and also trying to save the gang but he did his best. He won't be forgotten. He really deserves those flowers on his grave
We meet Dutch making a plan in the snow
We saw him die with his plan in the snow
We meet him into of a mountain.
We saw him die at the bottom of a mountain
I miss the old Dutch he was a good man until he went crazy
Maxwell Brown yea i genuinely liked him even when he betrayed you
Micah changed him so much, when Hosea was killed he just lost it and always went to Micah. He became comfortable with killing people and making noise, it took Dutch like 8 years to realise Micah was the rat lol
Like he was in a band that killed and robbed for surviving and he was the leader, it is normal that he went crazy (micah just speed it up). Ducht was my favourite character :(
Dutch is the best written character in a game ever imo, watching his character development in rdr2 was a thing a beauty. Hopefully we get some Dutch content for DLC
Terence Green yea sad his story has ended
Arthur is the best
Arthur Is
I think is best if we play as dutch in red dead redemption 3
Arthur is the best character yes but I agree that Dutch was the best written character . There’s a difference
*"I CANT FIGHT MY OWN NATURE"*
True
I swear if RDR1 and RDR2 were movies, Jeffrey Dean Morgan would have to play Dutch
Donut Software yesssss, I saw something about that a while ago
Napoleon Dy-no-mite or josh brolin
RDR1 it's a film
Danny devito could play uncle
Who would play Sean?
Arthur, 1899: "Maybe, time for folks like us has passed"
Dutch, 1911: "Our time is passed, John"
He did listen to Arthur's words, in the end..
Dutch is a pretty hard character to analyse. A lot of people think he only became more who he really was. But Dutch always wanted to help everyone in the gang. But having Micah whispering in his ear changed his view on everything. Hosea was the one guiding Dutch and without a guide or someone he could trust he started losing his mind. Also when all the members started doubting him he got more depressed. Micah was the only one who did exactly what he wanted. This made Dutch feel comfortable near Micah. Dutch wasn’t a bad person. But his plan failed not only because of him but also because of his aggressive right man. When Hosea was alive and Dutch still believed in Arthur, Micah had a smaller role. There was a balance. Without them Micah could do whatever he wanted.
First mistake was letting Micah join.
Second was the ferry job in Blackwater. Hosea and Arthur had a better plan but Dutch thought otherwise.
Third mistake was to not go west.
Forth mistake was to rob Cornwall
Good thing was he saved Sean
Fifth mistake was to get in to the feud with in Rhodes.
Second good thing he saved Jack
Sixth mistake was leaving John behind during the bank job in Saint Denis
Eighth mistake was not saving John early on
Ninth mistake was letting Cleet and Joe join
Tenth mistake guiding Eagle Flies to a most likely death just to get out
Eleventh was leaving Arthur behind
Twelfth mistake was leaving John behind
Thirteenth was leaving Abigail behind
Fourteenth mistake was choosing Micah over his sons even after he shot Grimshaw
One good thing overall was that the train job worked. If no one lost faith from the beginning, Dutch would maybe never become the crazy maniac. They nailed the job, had an distraction and just had to get the hell out of there.
Glad Lallare damn dude, well thought out, yea Dutch was a very complex character that needed guidance from the right person, Hosea
Forduss Thanks, been thinking about this for a Long time! For me Dutch is the most interesting character!
Glad Lallare I agree and well written dude
Forduss Thaaaanks!
Glad Lallare 👍👍
1:09 "you sound like Hosea, I miss... him" 😭😢😭😢
You could hear it in his voice that he was holding tears. I love Dutch still even though what he did at the end
PUTIN'S NEIGHBOR But why on earth did Arthur just look pissed off when he said dat tho
Lil Punk Because Arthur was upset over the situation they were in and Dutch shook the question off about the women, he had no idea what to do and Arthur saw that.
PUTIN'S NEIGHBOR Yeah that is true
Dutchs reaction to hoseas death really hit me and I knew he would lose it all
Yea that seemed to be his breaking point
Im so sad about Dutch
He was a well developed character
The thing i love most about Dutch, is that he is the most relatable human character in these games.
He's not perfect, he ain't a saint but he tried to do good in his life, and he tried to keep those close to him alive and well.
And the worst part of it all is that what he went through is something every single human being goes through, that being the realization that you live in a time and place where you no longer belong.
Ultimately that's what seals Dutch's fate, trying to come to terms with the realization that the world he had been fighting for was now nothing more than a distant memory. Replaced by civilization, and a world that saw him as little more than a relic of a bygone era.
I'm only in my 20s, but even still, thanks to the rapid advancement of technology, the world i grew up in no longer exists.
It'll happen to all of us at some point.
The question is, do we fight change, or do we accept the hopelessness of it all?
Dutch is the epitome of a Tragic Hero 👏🏻👏🏻
"In a world without gold we might have been heroes" -Edward Kenway
Assassins creed 4 was the best in my opinion, the characters were so alive and the story and setting was great
@@Forduss I have completed all the AC games except black flag, I only get to play it for a bit back then. Planning to pick it up again during sales
@@Desmond-xp4wr its really good
The music is outrageously beautiful and it fits Dutch's journey from a good man to not a evil one but... broken as if a shell of him died and the truth of himself sprouted like a butterfly with twisted wings.. in the end... he found his redemption.
sillY_pEnGuin 3D he low key has one of the saddest story’s in rdr
This video is perfect in narrating Dutch personality and its evolution. The first time I played it I hated Dutch because of his poor decision making at the end, but after looking at it more deeply I see his point of view I guess and it’s now my favorite character
Thanks bro, and yea he's a greatly developed character
"-we cant fight gravity, we cant fight nothing. My whole life all I ever did was fight" Dutch realising he spent his entire life trying to stop an unstoppable force.
He tried to combat civilisation 😢
He thought modernization was causing natural human behavior to change for the worse. However it was him who turned into a monster
Bilbo InYoGuts in the end I think he released he had become exactly what he fought against
@@Forduss Yea you can even see that when he confronts and kills Cornwall and describes imself the whole dialogue
Bilbo InYoGuts yea it's pretty sad, he wasn't really a bad man, just seeing his closest friends die broke him and made it easy for Micah to deceive him
I can't even explain how much I love this video. I come here when I'm feeling down, this somehow makes me feel better over my failures. Such a masterpiece.
Karl Marx oh wow, Thankyou bro, I needa make more but just don’t have time, eventually when I get a pc I’ll roll out vids faster cause editing with be easier
I realized many months after beating the game,
Dutch says in the beginning of RDR2 that he would happily trade places with any of the gang members that were lost after the robbery in blackwater.
Yet when Milton offers to let the gang go if Dutch gives himself up, he doesn't do it.
He says "if I could".
But he has to take care of the gang.
Also, none of the gang wanted to
People say Dutch went crazy, but really he barely changed. When he got backed into a corner he got desperate, but that's it. In the end his plan almost worked. If it weren't for Micha they would have farmed mangoes.
Seeing what happened to dutch from a good guy that care about his family to a crazy murderer that only care about money is breaking my heart
max moore Same. The way he says “Our time has passed, John” is so powerful. It seems like that while speaking those words he remembers all the good days spent with his fellers, and the mistakes that led him to mess everything up. And also it shows that he eventually gave up on everything he believed in during his whole life, and his nature could not let him live any other way. Arthur tried to tell him in 1899, he understood it in 1911
Great character development
*”I can’t fight my own nature... That’s the paradox, John..”*
That hit hard
“You sound like Hosea, I miss...him..”
I’m not crying, you are.
I never truly understand If he was really just using his people to reach his goals since the beginning or that he just lost himself after Hosea's death and Micah took advantage over his broken state, at the beginning he didnt seem selfish at all
He definitely lost it. He felt guilty for Hosea’s death and everyone was doubting him. I felt bad for Dutch at the end.
My take is that Dutch was an idealist, and deep down, a narcissist, a sore loser.
As Civilization grew, he couldn't accept the fact that the old west was dying. He became completely delusional after Hosea's death and Micah got into his ears.
Just before Arthur's death, he wanted to say 'I'm sorry' but he couldn't, because of his arrogance and denial.
@@arkarmoethouk2445 Like a western Don Quixote almost
I can relate to him. At the time I watched this, I felt like Dutch. A man who knew deep down inside, things aren’t going according to plan, but yet he still couldn’t bring himself to accept it because he couldn’t stop fighting for his beliefs. The day will come when I say that “our time has passed”.
Same. He is basically me. Can't accept failure. But delaying that realisation comes with devastating consequences.
Dutch Van Der Linde, John Marston, and Arthur Morgan are there of the most well written characters ever
Definitely
I see a good man that war and fighting turned him into an animal
Makes me real sad
Dutch is a tragic hero turned villain, broken by the death of his dear Hosea and twisted mentally by Micah Bell's forked tongue. He cared about Arthur and the gang but also suffered from immense stress of leading a gang and also the head trauma received during the Botched Saint Denis robbery from the trolley crash. What a mesmerizing and yet sad man
Money got them all killed .
Oath
No the picetins did
Sitting down, almost breaking into tears of sadness and joy. This video has absolutely changed me as a man, and has shown me the way. This video makes me feel like changing the world, but also myself while I’m at it. Forduss brought out the best in me, so I feel like it’s only right if I do the best by him. Subscribe, like and share with everyone. No matter who they are. There are no strangers, because with Forduss, we are all united as family.
Regards,
Your number 1 fan, MCX
Thanks, Is that you campzy?
Oh it’s pelly
I did break into tears there something about the piano and the wording fits perfectly !
I cannot put into words how amazing this video is. If red dead had a movie I %100 would want this in it.
Thankyou :)
Great video fair play! But i personally wouldn't have left out the "because they have to justify their wages." part right before this intriguing character met his end, always liked that line.
This give me every time I see it the CHILLS, good job
Dutch van der Linde was tragically his own worst enemy.
With him and Micah Bell together, all Hell was raised. Hell on Earth began the moment Dutch and Micah started the Blackwater Massacre.
I love when you put rdr and rdr2 in keep up the good work
Thank you dude
One of the greatest video game characters ever created!
He is
Dutch is a good person who turned to vilian by Micha and because the death of Hosea
The saddest thing is that Dutch's final words are "Our time has passed" which is what Arthur has been saying all the time and told Dutch as well. Dutch dies with Arthur's words.
Wow, beautiful work! The music fits perfectly, great job 👏
Thankyou bro
Dutch is a good man
Dutch Van Der Linde theme song: “I fought the law and the law won.”
Beautiful, the most beautiful that I have never heard !!!
Thank you my dude
@@Forduss You were the artist not me. Thank You !!!
Thanks for watching man, it means a lot
John sounded so done with Dutch's bullshit. After playing RDR2 it just sound so much more, genuine, I suppose is the word. So fucking well done.
It’s a good game
Dutch is the greatest twist villain ever written, solely because it wasn't sudden, it wasn't stupid. It took time, it was realistic. It didn't feel fake.
Red dead should be made into a book
Agreed, or a movie
Definitely
Very Beautiful my friend!
Grisha Grozavu thankyou
Dutch is my favourite fictional character
Man...... I want to see a movie about the life of Dutch Van Der Linde. 🖤
People say that Dutch had always been the man we see him as in the end but I would submit an argument that: no, it is not the case. Dutch has not been that man until Micah came. Remember our conversations with Javier and Hosea? About how Dutch is different now. How he's changed since the Blackwater. And who brought the Blackwater idea to Dutch? Micah.
Dutch changed before but it was never to feed his worst impulses. He had his moral codes and philosophies, he had people he cared for and fought for. But in the end, he became selfish, egotistic, and paranoid. Why?
Micah made Dutch believe in his worst impulses, and it came to a head when Hosea died and Arthur grew weak. Micah could not do much at the beginning because Dutch had Hosea to counter his worst impulses, to make him see sense, and Arthur was strong enough that Dutch would listen to him and that Micah feared him. Dutch misses Hosea, but he cannot uphold Hosea's hopes for the gang.
Without the two men at his side, Micah was Dutch's strongest ally now. Think about it. Dutch never abandoned the weak until Hosea died. Dutch always cared about the women and Jack until Micah started whispering in his ear.
Dutch loved the gang. I believe he truly did. But Micah put a veil upon the man's eyes and he began to see things in a different way. He began killing more and more, not caring if they were helpless, whether it was women, children, or the elderly. He no longer lied low like they used to, but made noise, and lots of it.
And when he was confronted with the fact that Micah was the rat this whole time, he could not choose, nor trust himself to choose. What did that cost him? His most loyal friends' deaths and a family split apart by his own shortcomings.
He could not deal with the tragedies of the Van Der Linde gang and that's what drove him mad. That's what sent him down the rabbit hole of madness. That's what drives him to be the man we meet in RDR1.
It makes me cry seeing how this all turned out. Dutch was a good man but Micah and the Pinkerton's influenced him so heavily that he lost everything because of them
I connect with Dutch in a deep level, because I too try to fight change, especially the changes of the "modern world". It`'s hard not to fight technology, but also hard not to use it/somehow be fored to use it
If Dutch had a dollar for every time he said plan, he wouldn't need a plan.
Masterpiece of a game.
I think In rdr3 should be 2 years before red dead redemption 1 and you can play as Dutch and start being a menace again and Dutch gets his name up again, that’s would be cool.
Coldest T3z a decent idea, I feel like they are more likely to continue the series with jacks story rather than another prequel, just because it would be too repetitive to go back again
Forduss But there’s nothing really interesting about Jack and the Wild West era is over. Another prequel would work and they could end it where RDR2 started after the black water heist. I like to pretend Jack enlisted in WW1 and died.
All he wanted to do was change!It's sad.
Usha Usha he was trying to combat the advancing world, the advancement of civilisation
Usha Usha cool its you've stuck around in all my vids man
@@Forduss np man
@forduss when u start uploading again?
It's very sad to see Dutch seeing himself as a monster.
Dutch is basically me. A lot of charisma accompanied with a hint of narcissism (flaw 1; usually kept in check by good friends).
We set off striving for noble goals but they very difficult to achieve.
But we can't accept that we've lost (flaw 2) and cut our losses.
Consequently, the people around us suffer.
Dutch lost focus after Hosea's death but found it again at the very end. He warned John and admitted what Arthur had been trying to tell him for so long.
Yeah there were hints he was losing it even since the Blackwater incident...But I think Hosea's death and Micah's poisoning his mind further made him break completely.
Dutch Plan Der Linde
Thank you son.
I watched a video about dutch and apparently he got a brain injury when he hit his head on the trolley robbing a trolley station in saint Denis with authur and lenny and that's why he went crazy
I've heard of stuff like that but I think it's more just he became more desperate as time went on and seeing friends die hit him hard
"A Broken Hero He Had A Plan"
"Why are we doing this dutch? why do we keep fighting for a world that dont need us no more.."
dutch van der linde gang ended with only one of it's remaining member. Jack Marston
Dutch van der Linde, Arthur Morgan and John Marston. The most well developed characters in video game history imo
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Our time is past John 😢
" I tried to fight reality using bullshits and nonsense. Surprisingly, at the end, I lost it all and I've never seen thaiti"
what a character...what a charsima.
The best gmv I see 😭
Dutch was a true visionary before being infected with Micah’s venom.
"my hole life all I ever did was fight" gave me chills
beautiful and sad
Dutch knew that he’s plans was terrible but moved on and before he died said that he have a good plan 😢
The sad thing is, when John and Dutch met at that mountain where Dutch killed himself, John didn’t shoot him because he used to be family, not knowing that he watched Arthur die and didn’t do anything
Dutch reminds me of anakin from star wars, turn to evil (my micah) but returns for his revenge (american venom)
there are no sadder two words in the English language, than "I tried."
The thing that broke me most was seeing Hosea, die.. I thought that was over. But then I lost Arthur too. 😔💔
Nice vid. Can you make another with Hallelujah?
Dutch Noooooo
good one thanks
Thanks for watching
Great job!!
In the trolley robbery Dutch hit his head and became a bad man
I don’t think it was because of that, remember Hosea and Lenny died then aswell
Forduss maybe your right, but you really think he would be bad for years and years until red dead redemption 1. He must have a head injury, but good point.
Coldest T3z traumatic events such as loved ones dying can greatly change people, it sparks hatred within them towards the people they feel are responsible, it gave Dutch a reason to kill, once he started killing he got used to it and it became second nature to him
Forduss very true
some say he only showed his true colours but I still believe Micah changed him, he was a good man
They need to make a red dead redemption movie
Like if you would like for that to happen
Yea I’ve been thinking about that aswell dude
i vote that it has to be animated by the same people who made the game (or at least overlooks it) cus im real sick of all this human adaptations. like in the WoW movie... why the fuck animate almost the whole movie..... except for the humans and G'orona. 100% animated would be a better choice in my book.
I think John was wrong about Dutch become his true self, I just think he changed because Hosea, Sean, Lenny, and that head injury in the first Saint Denis robbery broke him and turned him into a undecisive sociopathic killer. Micah didn't help it either, he just made Dutch worse
1:43 gets me everytime
Wonderfull Video
I love it
Dutch is a complex character you can’t fully understand he’s both good and bad but for me i can’t stop blaming him for doubting Arthur and believing Micah regardless what Micah could’ve said Arthur is his son, brother and someone who knew a long time before Micah.. above all that he left him to die thats really makes me feel sorry for Arthur for following him all this time but i like to think that he was sad when he saw Arthur for the last time and hearing him say i gave you all i had because that what he really did.
Yes, Dutch went mad. However, you can't help but feel sorry for him when you see his reaction to Arthur dying. DUTCH himself was speechless. It was heartbreaking.
i belive dutch is neither good or bad he is in between
Hosea to Dutch: You'll damn us all
Arthur to Dutch if you go for the money: You let him damn us all (talking about micah)
Ik this is random but isnt it funny how we went from horse travel to space travel in a few decades?
Advancement got faster and faster, wonder where we’ll be in another few decades
Awesome job👏👏👏
Predator The gamer cheers
Forduss 🍹
Predator The gamer 🍻
I’ve seen a lot of people commenting that Ductch and Arthur were both bad people. I guess that depends on how you define a person. I know they killed,robbed, and fought the law. I don’t think Dutch was crazy. He just fought for what he thought was right. He fought for his family, the people he loved, his gang. His sons, Lenny,John, Arthur, Bill, Javier, Sean. and the son he thought was his son, that betrayed him Micah. Dutch fought and killed for people he loved. He lost people he loved, he lost the women he loved. He lost everything. But found people he started to love. He loved once again. But eventually he turned crazy. He thought the people he loved the most betrayed him. They actually just followed what he’d told them so many years ago. The code. Him (in the good ending) looking Arthur in the eyes and Arthur telling him how he gave him all he had, broke Dutch. I think it’s beautiful that the things Dutch taught Arthur and John is what made them “turn” on him. Dutch telling John the exact same thing to John as he did with Arthur when jumping was a beautiful moment. I love Dutch and I think he was always a good person that lost everything he loved and ever cared for. And then having Micah by his side in the end was his downfall.
i cant tell you how much i get angry when people say hes a bad person..... litterly hes just trying to keep the gang survive if it wasent for him the gang probaly whas naver made...
Dutch could have just invest the money. Hes a smart man he'll figure it out.
Dutch was a good person in a way just seeing the real in the world but all those deaths made him crazy but micha got in his head
Keep it up!
Thanks dude