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- Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2023
- War Thunder German Type VII submarine gameplay.
Battle of the Atlantic: Ships Against Submarines event with German WW2 era u-bot Type VII submarine.
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Silent Hunting is fliping cool😎
100% this is a test before we're getting subs ingame (maybe in next update), and I'm all for it. All the mechanic are in place (except the battery life?). They seem pretty much ready.
I hope the devs are thinking about the new gamodes for naval.
What do you guys think about sub "event"(test)?
helll yeah, I like the idea a lot and i think itll be a nice change, finally i wont get clapped by just boats in naval
Also, the space in the german naval tech tree is probably there for the subs
Could it work for current naval game modes? I'm not a game designer but it feels like a good counter to big battleships, giving destroyers a role in higher naval tiers. Rock-Paper-Scissors kind of thing.
Awsome video! I hope they will actually add subs, so that war thunder is somewhat enjoyable again. This is also the reason why I started DCS now since war thunder is so unenjoyable right now (I don't think I will ever come back, and if probably only for naval). Anyways I love your content, keep it up and greetings from germany🇩🇪
We dont nessescarily need the battery. This modell has a snorkel. Which basicaly gives the diesel engine a chance to run at periscope depth. (If you loook at the port side of the conning Tower, towars the bow. There it is) battery yeah..in EC if i need to be stealthy for a long time, im curious how they will implement it. Also Oxigen and stuff.
i hope gaijin add anti submarine aircraft or maybe playable small aircraft carrier it will make naval battles look more accurate and fun game
but i think they gonna add bismarck or yamato battleship first
I like how the U-VII description says max depth 260m yet you explode after 60m
I suppose it's for future submarine or gaijin are just dumb
A lot of people are saying that it's artifically nerfed in order to force engagements for the test which makes sense to me.
Nah. I died at 100 m :P
Doesnt seem like a good thing for you to be able to just sit at max depth where you cant do anything at all
@@DonCogo We all saw german movie Das Boot and others, type 7 could go well below 200m... But, tbh, its all dark at already 50 meters. WT is catching WoWS fast, and max depth u can go there is 60m - coincidence?
destroyers yelling "here kitititity" is actually terrifying
It is😅
You would probably like Barotrauma then~ 😂
Oh Jesus not that one. That's pure trauma
@@VaciliNikoMavich pure shenaningans of hull repairing
@@KaihanDTuna Indeed!
For me its one of the best events in this game since beginning, i wish they add this as normal mode in sometime
I agree
when the phone version alr has subs and you can actualy go very deep lol
IT was a best event I ever play in warthunder
Probably one of the best events in Warthunders history imo
I agree
@@DOLLARplayssame. If they eventually go modern with ships which is a guarantee we‘ll also see some nice variety with submarine gameplay
I rly hope the subs come in the game like that. They are pretty balanced
Kinda hope if they do they can go deeper than 60 meters. Depth charges can go pretty deep so I don't see a issue.
@@donnym3415 They'd be invulnerable to torps tho,so maybe only for a limited time
I hope so as well, i wish to use them in RNB and not have them as a event.
@@TheMissileGuidanceSystem69 Wdym? Even at periscope depth subs have a good chance of avoiding torpedoes
@@TheMissileGuidanceSystem69 y limited oxygen but also going deep dosent happend super fast.. i tink letting player manually controlling it be nice but submarines diddent move auøper fast up and down so i tink that would be the best
Pretty fun event.
Still some improuvment needed, but it was the proof that the WoWS guys traumatised by subs should not worry in Warthunder as Subs don't go Mach 1 underwater or don't have super powers.
Exactly.
Yeah, I don't know why people thought this is going to be like in WoWS
Lmao all I keep hearing from the NO to submarine being added are from former wows players basically tell me submarine will be cancer, unstoppable, and op in war thunder...
This event literally disproven all that nonsense as war thunder subs are no where near joke of wows submarine.
This event of DD vs submarine is more balanced than a year of unbalanced broken battleship gameplay that literally destroyed naval balance from the time of new power patch to gajlin finally trying to balance battleship put together😂
Not sure why people thought it would be like WoWS, but in that game, yeah, it’s just completely invisible unless it is 2 inches from you, travels at about Warp 9, and is just a massive sweat machine.
the sfx they used is very nice also. If this comes to the real game our subchasers will be fun to play
Inb4 they screw up the sounds like in all the other modes. lol
You mean useful to play.. right now they are grind fillers.
They could add like radar or sonar (I don't know what was used) to some of the bombers that were used as sub hunters like the PBY
The only thing I can‘t forgive them is locking the swordfish behind this event, as easy as it may be
finally my dinky little PC 451 will have something to screw over (if they do add susmarines)
I honestly thought gaijin was going to f this up somehow, but this looks so awsome and yet balanced. I'm not a naval warfare guy but I will definitely play this if it has its own mode, they nailed every aspect of this.
At first the destroyers had a pretty big advantage. Then people figured out how to aim torpedoes with the periscope and use AA guns.
The subs get their ass completely handed back to them if assuming equal skill levels.
Maybe just a BR issue though.
Be better if the subs had more spawn points and the convoy ships gave points.
@@mavor101no.. it's a spawn point issue.. the subs need more spawn points to be able to move before the destroyers are on top of them... all the spawn points should be open from the start for the subs.
I was a bit sceptical myself. Glad to know I was wrong. I don't know if subs own mode is a good thing. Naval community is too small to be split. They would rather work on general gamemode where all the ships would have a place
I love me some submarines! If anyone is interested in playing more sub games, I recommend the Silent Hunter series. SH3 and SH4 are a bit old, but they can be modded quite extensively. SH3 takes place in the Atlantic and you play as the Germans, but SH4 takes place in the pacific and you play as the US.
SH3 is a masterpiece
On another note, if any of yall wanna watch more sub games, there's a youtuber named Wolfpack345 that does awesome cinemtography, storytelling (especially on SH series,) and gameplay
SH3 is pure gold, I still have disk with it and its always installed on my pc
Cold water good simulator, and russian mod
SH3 was great , I'm playing UBOAT in steam , is still in development but know they are adding new subs.
Very well done and with modern graphics.
I have never been enthusiastic about naval battles in WT, but now I think it has potential, espacially after adding submarines
I personally have had a bit of a soft spot for it over wows gameplay but man the atmosphere here was fire, especially from the planes view.
Sound Guy really decided to pop off for this event. Bro deserves a raise.
I'm sayin man, homie cranked it to 11 on atmospheric and sub noises
Sound guy completely redoes every sound in game every other patch lol
nah, sonar sound is just bad, depth charges also sound off, hull creaking sound just like when I take uber and guy accelerates in his prius a bit faster than usual
@@weedstage4267 you talking from experience or?
@@weedstage4267 guess you have diving experience in ww2 subs?
Gotta say, I usually really couldn't care less about the events, but the atmosphere and the overall feel of this one got me hooked. You just blast some "Wolfpack" (sabaton) and you really feel like ur raiding allied convoys. Truly the dark souls of event game modes.
The weather and music really add to the event's atmosphere.
I totally agree
dark souls indeed, its so hard when youre trying to hide or fight with 4 destroyers on top of you but when you manage to survive and spit in their face its so satisfying, if we dont get uboats permanently ill be sad and feel teased
The atmosphere is really great, almost like in the movies
It's a cool event, but there are some details that could have make this incredible:
1º The torpedoes, the real range of these torpedoes was between 2500 and 5000 meters, not the 2000 meters they have in the event
2º The maximum depth was 250 meters deep and you could even dive deeper. In War Thunder, if you go beyond 55-60 meters, the hull implodes.
3º The hydrophones on the destroyers did not function correctly, in WW2, they had to reduce speed to be effective in detecting submarines because otherwise the noise of the destroyer's own engines prevented it from hearing what was under the surface and therefore It was impossible to detect submarines, in this event you can go at full speed and still detect them. On the submarine side, they could have given greater importance to the use of the hydrophone and would have to limit the information on the enemy's position, the eyes of the submarine under the surface is the hydrophone, it is what allows it to locate targets
4º The spawns for submarines are poorly placed, they would have to be invisible to the destroyers and there would have to be several around the convoy for two reasons: the first is that in real life one does not know where a submarine can come from, it can come from any angle of the convoy; and the second reason is so that the destroyers do not rush the spawns, the point of them being convoy escorts is so that they protect the convoy, not so that they forget about it and run like crazy for submarines, they have to stay with the convoy
5º The frontal depth charge launchers of the USS Fletcher and the USS Tacoma lack a reticle to know where they are going to fall. We have reticles and indicators for torpedoes and bombs on destroyers, submarines and seaplanes, but not for this launcher. there is nothing.
6º This may already be giving the submarines a lot of advantage but it would be cool to give the submarines decoys to give the destroyers the slip
These are some personal considerations based on historical facts and analysis of what I have experienced playing the event, it is a great event but it is not perfect. But it is an event that promises for the future of naval battles
Yep. Thanks for proper explanation of mistakes of the event.
Those depth charges are insane right now. That's exactly why we need to go as deep as possible. And there probably should be less noise coming from big depths. So, yeah
It's just a test lol, gaijin needs to force some engagements first to see results
i hope the restrictions are only for this event, as it's goal is to enforce a known confrontation between subs and frigates (could be frustrating for the frigates to get sniped from 5km away). if they lift those after the event, it's going to be a treat
the real kaleun here!
this should be top comment under this video. hope gaijin changes it in the future atleast somewhat in this direction. well said dude.
You forgot some stuff like subs having realistic movement while destroyers have arcade movement
I love the sound and everything, this seems a little horror too. Imagine being a guy working on a submarine and hearing all types of explosions and 808 sounds. It's really immersive and fashinating
Yeah, imagine working at the sonar and suddenly hearing Travis Scott playing in the ocean
The sound is really good
I am not a fan of naval battles, but I must admit that the use of submarines adds a fresh new dynamic for those who enjoy this mode, more vehicles will always be an improvement to the gameplay in any mode.
They are noticing that nobody in the entire world cares bout Naval battles because they are bland, having submarines brings in a whole another community and type of vehichle to change gameplay as a whole
@@karenzitkus9926also so many ships in game have depth charges, mines etc so this makes sense already
For the bombers vs the subs, I think having a timed delay on the bombs would work well, that way they act kind of like a depth charge and go into the water a little before exploding
Yeah I did that the second I spawned in one they work a treat
You are right, I totally forgot to do that
Yeah an 8 sec fuse on the 500s works wonders for their effectiveness
@@DOLLARplays Also a single 500 can destroy a sub so a single plane can destroy 4 subs easily and I got into a dogfight against a HE-111 afterwards. Will make ship launched planes even more useful to find subs for destroyers and light cruisers.
@@aegeanharrier6648 While they are at it, give them aerial depth charges. I know at least the Kingfisher can carry those.
i hope we get the submarines soon, you can tell the event is just a test to see how balanced they are as if you look in the keybinds the subs have controls for things we don't even have access to in the event
2:51 that muffled “well well well” was very funny to me
Naval EC will be fun!
As a silent hunter and Uboat enjoyer. I see this as a massive W
I love the event but my first game in sub was horrible didn't understand how to use it but after some time it was pretty fun
I just gave up
Im.not wasting more time on it
@@loganwalker8537skill issue
Remember, you never use it anymore but F1 to get a pop-up with all the controls
Does a decent job explaining it, i completely forgot it was Q and E to go up and down
@@commisaryarreck3974 yeah, after like 3/4h of event the help did auto show that was usefull
As always, you make anything look fun and I appreciate you taking on the challenge to figure it out.
Submarines: you love to see it. Just wish they actually went to depth and had the proper torpedo range, but otherwise, a good addition. Also, the “this is not a drill” with the picture of the drill have me a good laugh
A little to easy to spot te sub in my opinion. I mean, technically there was a dead zone in the sonar right below the destroyer, subs used to sneak under them with this method
Fun game mode, can’t wait to see them,
A submarine lurking just beneath you sounds terrifying....
my issue is Surfice vessals aren't effected by thier own noise so going full throttle makes no diffrence to detection strength
This is looking really promising and full of potential. Few problems tho, but hopefully nothing that can't be eventually sorted out in the future.
Firstly, the last time crush depth was 60 meters was pre WW1. For many WW2 submarines, 180 M was good enough to sit at; 3 times the depth currently available rn.
Secondly, the underwater graphics for the sub are okay, but in reality even underwater, looking straight down would still reveal blue, albiet a darker blue than horizontally towards you. This is the main problem I have with this subject but there are other minor visual things unimportant enough to mention.
Thirdly, mines shouldn't be used up close and offensively like that. If anything, you should be able to use depth as your defense.
Finally, the whole detecting system seems pretty good, however, there should be a difference between sonar, and hydro. The difference irl is sonar creates soundwaves to deflect and detect underwater signatures. Hydro simply detects the sounds made by objects. This is active and passive respectively.
Going off of the last idea, the submarine noise system seems really good. However, it should really be that the faster the destroyer goes, the further its hydro detection is decreased. Cold waters makes an excellent example of this since when you move through water, the noise it creates can mask other sounds.
There's like a hundred other things I can say about it, but these are the major things lol.
Thanks for reading if ya did! I don't mind criticism, so if there's something you don't like about this, mention it please
I think we have limited depth just for the event to test fight. With deeper depth we should get battery life, and maybe oxygen levels, so you would have to resurface once a while. Even on the stat card says 250m max depth.
There are some issues, but it's a good starting point
@@DOLLARplays I mean if we're sticking with WT realism, oxygen would last on subs for at least half a day. Battery is a different story depending on speed, so if anything I would have that be affected, but still have it last awhile before needing recharging.
I believe by far the most restrictive part of submarines, is the amount of torpedoes that can be carried.
Some details like longer torpedo ranges and speed mattering surface vessel sonar accuracy and detection ability, this looks like a fun game mode.
I neglected to play it earlier. 😢
Also note to self, avoid embrassing to the OceanGate experience when dived.😂
Great video DOLLAR.
There's room for improvement, something things are off because they wanted to test the engagement, but it's a good starting point for subs
Absolutely love that they added subs. Usually, I don't do the events in war thunder, but this one is too cool to miss out on.
Type VII imploding at 70 meters, while they could comfortably stay at 170 meters and more irl lul
Well, lets stay with 90 meters then. Then im fine with that honestly. Maybe upgrading the pressure hull could give you 90, before that its 60 max. Im good with that.
@@Krisz98 I mean its not like theyre gonna harm much at 170 m :/
@@Gracefulwarrior2124 Yeah in know. But its Gaijin. Give them some time.
@@Krisz98oh no, my destroyer can't instantly depth charge sub, what am I gonna do?
We shall see if Gaijin have any sense left in them.
Probably just for the event to test fighting. Even stat card says 250m max depth
Been doing the challenges for the sub event right now and I absolutely love it! I really hope they bring in subs sometime soon. I usually hate tf out of naval like most players do, but this event has only made me want to play more. Gaijin actually made a fun naval gamemode for once... I just hope that if they do bring in subs, we can get some cool pin-ups we can slap on subs. Most notably a pin-up from Das Boot or Greyhound.
Massively cool!! Glad do see some fresh content like this.
I was waiting for your Uboat video, DOLLA. You never disappoint.
Love Some Naval Action 😉
They Did Pretty Good For This Event,
Would Love to see sub’s in the main game, As Always Great Video Dollar!
This needs to be a permanent game mode, at least one week every month
I agree definitely loved this event and the subs are awesome, really hoping they will come to the game!
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They look cool and quite balanced, not like certain submarines in a certain naval game. I LOVE IT!
Heh
that is what you get when submarines are implemented realistically, and they dont go 100kmh under water.
So balanced. For ships.
This event might be a test for submarine before they added it to the tree.
So next Major Update or after that Maybe?
I have the same feeling
the sound effects are amazing, interesting to watch
love the editing underwater, so inmersive lol
hoping for submarines to stay, i want the servers filled with uboats lmao
I think that this sub event is real cool but only thing that as a UBOAT player is off too me is that your always in sonar so the destroyer always knows where you are and that they don't have a rough position of you with the ship's hydrophone and sonar is than a ability so you can spot the exact position of the U-Boot but anything else is very nice
i agree with some simple tweaks and balances they could have an amazing convoy game mode, it has so much potential
Sub event is super cool. Very balanced and engaging. I think subs in EC would be fun. Hope they add other nations like the French Sercof. I forget how it’s spell lol
That thing in EC would be amazing
Just f*cking very cool !! Your job is just... PERFECT !!!
This has me hyped for naval in warthunder great vid too betty 😁
I love the asymmetrical game mode. Really hope they look to add that to other game types. And i think they did a great job with balance. Destroyers are definitely easier to play, with subs having a higher skill ceiling, but if you can play them well the subs are deadly. I found that techniques from more sub centric games like cold waters actually helped, which is a good sign, and it really have some of the atmosphere battlestations used to have.
Overall I think a decent job from the devs and hope they keep up the good work.
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Real life France main?
@@BigGreyDonut yes
Mans is using his nationality to his advantage
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Can you imagine like a convoy escort type mission players with subs attacking and players with destroyers and sub chasers defending that could be really cool
Fun tip, is you can set a 1.5 second delay on bombs so they sink and hit submerged subs. Use smoke to block line of sight for subs and mark hidden subs for your aircover.
This has been one of the most fun events I have done in a while, really reminds me of the 2020 Greyhound movie about a destroyer protecting a convoy crossing the Atlantic.
Im glad you're enjoying the subs so much. Everyone else has just kind of complained but it kept you on the edge of your seat :)
I feel like people are mostly positive subs, I haven't seen many complaints. Oh and I'm having a lot of fun 😉
I've been playing this event and having a great time!
Probably WT's best event as yet.
18:09 that guy say "just leave me alone" man I felt that feeling and said it so many times when i played that event as German lol 🤣🤣
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Love your cinematics
i am not a huge submarine fan, but i love that you have submarines to enjoy :) you were having so much fun
5:29
Imagine listening to those fish scooting by, right above the pressurized coffin you live in.
No ty
bubbles controlling a u-boat and getting kills is both a visual and sentence i never thought i’d say 😂
the dark below scares the shit out of me. You talking
underwater was pretty funny.
I'm loving this event. The profile picture reward is cool too.
I love how the decal the submarine in das boot had on its tower you can get in this event
Love the Crimson Tide Parallel.
the way u drive the uss fletcher to avoid those topredo is so smooth
Great video again, never fails to make me laugh out loud 😂👍
If Gaijin is willing to add the sub to the actual game and not just an event, I will never stop playing naval.
“Greyhound, greyhound. You canot escape this grey wolf. The sea favours the wolf on the hunt, not the hound on the run”
Great job covering the event, Dollarplays. The only thing NOT covered was HE111 bomber and Tacoma.
Those Fletchers will shoot you down fast. And stear clear of the Tacoma; its bad.
The best video in this year!!!!!
The beginning with bubbles is gold
subs are cool the sounds too and so are your your underwater audio effects
The first few hours were the best, a lot of confused players frantically clicking and barely able to control their boats, unintentional carnage, chaos.
I can imagine 😂
Wow the underwater sounds are nice, Dam
Super awesome man!
Dollars, you really need to hear the german voice in submarines they're goldy !
Awesome I was straight into it when it came out lol
Subs actually made me reinstall the game and play a couple rounds after several years of not playing. I liked it and will definitely play a bit or maybe a lot once they are released!
this looked really fun.
HAHAHAHHAAH the intro with bubbles had me laughing so hardd 😂 love ur videos!!
9:31 omg that was HILARIOUS Dollar you are awesome
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Your best gameplay with nice music till now ...please do this once again. ...🙏🙏
And another Day with a beautifully made Video 👌🏻
Editing that Bubbles-soundbyte was a 200 IQ move
I like watching him all clueless about them dropping charges on him while he keeps running flank ahead :D
8:52 "Alright I survived"
-Last words from a German U-Boot captain
Ooh dollar, that first game was brutal
Dude, I'm so ready!
Superb video. I've been hoping for submarines to WaTh since the introduction of depthcharges. Hopefully they add subs and make them somewhat easy to get.
Awesome video! The submarines look so fun.
Thanks ✌️
I've always dreamed that War Thunder would be that game to offer us scenario of war for 500 vs 500 players, with foot soldier, tanks, plane and ship
Bubbles! Ha! loved the intro
The first time I used the submarines, I didn't know how to use the periscope, but I didn't feel like looking either. I only played it briefly to test it. I'm not a fan of ship combat in War Thunder. I went underwater in the submarine and got into the formation of cargo ships and then used the map and looked through the surface of the water. I then fired volleys of torpedoes and was able to destroy 3 ships with the first volley. But submarine hunting is also fun. The Catalina flying boats are very maneuverable and the bombs almost always cause fatal damage to submarines. The anti-aircraft guns from the escort ships are very dangerous for aircraft.
I love these subs, and i hope they add them to the tech trees
Dollar, a word of advice for the plane - add a 3 second tkme delay. It allows the bombs to sink and explode at a depth where it will kill a surfaced sub but still do critical damage to one submerged above 40 meters. Works really well and helped me get a record 13 in one match.
Those depth charges are cool.
i'm really pleased not only with the sub event, but also with the large scale naval/aviation event. It would make frigates more relevant to naval battles and bring a whole lot more to naval if they keep both of these
You're ze best, Herr Kaleun!
subs would make a good counter to all the new shiny battleship, while also making destroyer actually viable options in higher tiers (maybe? I haven't played naval in a while)
this video hits very hard on a night full of stars
if i see this correctly and from what i experienced. the gamemode was played in arcade. so if we get an sonar dish for the DDs in RB this may well and truely be a good addition.
now they have to fix the rest of naval tho.
the fear and silence you can feel when 30m down and a dd runs over you dropping depth charges nearly missing you is amazing.
finally good to see submarines in warthunder
If they add these I'll definitely start playing naval battles
i swear that well well well sounded like was holden maddox with a knife on the deck of that destroyer.