Fixing my pain in the neck car head rest ... with a car jack?!
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- There are thousands of vehicle owners out there that are getting neck, back and upper torso pains from their head rests. I'm one of those sufferers and today I decided to literally get rid of the pain in my neck by adjusting my head rest position. I'm not suggesting you do the same adjustment. This video shows how I made the adjustment.
Basically a few years back, the US safety regulations required auto manufacturers to implement whiplash protection for drivers. That was a great idea! However, car manufacturers decided to implement the requirement in a cheap and quick way. They did this by pivoting the head rest severely to the front behind the driver's head. They used a 6' 2" dummy as the model to design the headrest. Unfortunately, most people don't fall into this exact measurement. For those that don't, they suffer discomfort and pains in the neck and upper back regions. I decided to end my suffering and make a slight adjustment.
I would have straightened it even more. Glad too see I'm not the only person with this problem, though.
Yup. They're causing definite serious spinal damage on the chance of POSSIBLE serious spinal damage. I just spent 7 hours in my daughter's car and it took me weeks to recover. I couldn't do a damn thing but lay on ice because of the pain I was in.
The dumbest safety law ever. It’s bad enough with everyone looking down at their phones. Now my car has slowly destroyed my neck. So unnatural. So painful!!!
AGREE !!!!!
Same. My neck look like a old lady now
I have a somewhat different take on this. I think that headrests are an important safety feature - but only if they are used. When the rests are so uncomfortable that people remove them, then they are of no use. Just learned that at least some Ford trucks have adjustable rests forward and back - that would be great. We need to put ours back on and make sure they are not adjustable before attacking them with our car jack.
They are making car seats that are literally made for terrible posture - thereby increasing dramatically instances of neck and back pain - and all the horrors that go with that - so seems pretty stupid to me to prevent a whiplash injury that few people might get to creating horrible spinal issues which everyone will get from driving these !!! It make zero sense !!!
The law had good intentions. Greed took over, nobody complained, now it is "normal"
These headrests promote poor posture, terrible design!
For anyone with good thoracic and cervical posture, the new regulation from 2009 to tilt the headrest so far forward is horrible! I hate driving my dad's GMC Canyon truck because it pushes my head so far forward, i cannot stand it! It doesn't bother my dad because he has a kyphotic spine--his head is naturally way forward relative to his upper back. But come on car manufacturers, you're causing neck pain for millions of Americans. At least make the headrests adjustable front to back!
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if its too far forward raise it. the bottom is further back than the top
@@iamshawbam1874 That doesnt solve the problem if you're taller than 5'2 or can't remove the headrest
@@iamshawbam1874 That's a good idea, will try before bending it
@@chrisalbert2683 Just saw the RUclips video for your product. Looks great.
You should put timestamp 4:00 at the beginning and show immediately how you can change the pitch of the headrest.
Just got a Ford Fusion a week ago, & my neck is killing me after a long road trip. Manufacturers need to allow more adjusting for us!
Fixed my Fusio by taking the head restraint to a machine shop Their hydralic (sp) press made quick work. Much better now!
This is the first video I've seen that accurately and descriptively explains the same problem that I've been having with my Ford. I normally don't drive American vehicles, but unfortunately I was forced to get this one. And it has done the exact same thing that you've explained. It is actually caused me to have my head tilted forward. I think what's going on, is that I'm getting touched on the back of my head and it's like an oppressive Force. The consulate keeps pushing my head down and forward compressing my neck.
This is brilliant. I had to adjust my car head rest several years ago and had a hard time using a steel pipe and cement bricks (the best I could think of). I had to do this again for another car yesterday and this is so much easier and more precise! Thank you for sharing!!
I’ve gotten straight up abuse from idiots preaching to me that “the head restraints are not meant for comfort; they’re for safety.”
Well, I’m not willing to trade guaranteed neck pain for the chance that I might get whiplash. Besides, just having the head rest there reduces the risk of whiplash already. No need to add insult to injury (pun intended).
Thank you for showing this! I don’t think I can do it-I’m not mechanically inclined. Maybe I could have a handyman do it.
Nice pun ;-). And I'm really tired of those lectures as well! I don't want to take a NAP while I drive--I just want to sit up straight! And not come out looking like Montgomery Burns
Take it out and put it back in reversed.
Same. Airline crew member jumpseats are not deigned this way. Pilots and flight attendants have 90 degree pitch and are traveling faster than car drivers. This has made me question the over reaction of the car industry because safety measures are stricter for the airlines.
You actually get whiplash from the seat itself
I'm with you brother. There will always be the suck it up buttercup gloomers. But life should and can be pleasant and joyful. I intend to modify my headrest--just as I've modified many other things I've bought that were ill-designed for basic comfort. Like my Dell laptop with a razor sharp bottom edge.
Clever! Didn't think about using this set up. Will definitely give it a try
boy thats genius way to tilt those little prongs back. i bought a new toyota highlander 2018 few months back and driver seat is soooooooooooooo uncomfortable i cannot explain only due to this i was about to trade in my new car. even this morning i was trying to fix this headrest with screw driver but not a very good idea at all it was so stiff it didnt move at all and i didnt push too much not to damage the headrest. and after that taking help from the youtube clicked in my mind. your way to fix the headrest seems so workable i am gonna give it a shot tomorrow. and than i will post again. wish me good luck
Omg thank you for this video. I got the worst tension headache ever- 1st day I drove my 2008 Tuscon!!!
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I just bought a 2017 Elantra and the headrest must be 30deg forward. These people are sick. Thank you for showing this!
Thank you!!! I am 5’3”. In my Toyota Matrix I don’t lean back/use the seat back at all because the headrest would prevent me from looking at the road. It is worst when I am wearing a bun or ponytail. Basically the seat doesn’t fit me at all.
You are absolutely right that a bun or ponytail makes it a lot worst on the neck. Even for a guy, having a hoodie or jacket with a thick hood lining tends to hurt my neck more.
In the past some cars had cut outs in the headrests that allows your bun or ponytail to fall through. Wished those headrests were still around.
Brilliant! Thanks for the suggestion! You could have skipped the first 5 minutes, but hey, why am I complaining when I'm getting good free advice?
Help prevent whiplash by giving them whiplash... must be a Government regulation
We turned ours around backwards, perfect now
Pinky lee , thanks for the idea. In order to get out of that uncomfortable unsafe driving headrest I had to put the seat in the worst position for the spine.
Modern posture favors this design but people with good posture will hate it. Wish we could have a choice!
We do have a choice...we could these car manufacturer's to go suck it until they design better seating arrangements.
I think it's great that Chevy provides the carjack to adjust the headrest. They thought of everything
Haha...I see what you did there !
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Not sure if this was already suggested, but on my 2012 Toyota Camry, I can reverse the head rest front to back. It leans back a little now, but way better than leaning forward.
Thanks for the information. I recently test drove a Camry and have been hesitant to buy, this being one issue...need to make sure it can still be removed, but you've given me hope 😊
Help whiplash by giving everone a pain in the neck because of abnormal headrest shape😣
6'2" here. Most definitely does NOT feel like headrests were designed for 6'2" tall people. In fact, the taller you are, the further the angle the headrest pushes your head forward and out of healthy posture. Only if you're short enough that your head is 100% below the headrest will these seats be comfortable!
Also, great idea! My attempts with headrests smashed under my couch and a 4' metal pipe were successful, but I'm looking for a better way. Ha
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I couldn't get it to work on my 2006 civic. First there wasn't enough room under the car for the headrest and the jack; then I borrowed a pickup truck and the rounded shape of the headrest resisted the press.
By the way, I'm 6'2" and I find the headrest horribly uncomfortable.
Wow, this actually worked! Thank you so much - the pitch of the headrest was driving me insane.
I have a 2017 Camry. The headrests tilt forward even more and the supporting rods are set back too far, making the entire headrest sit too far forward. They're not safe, because they cause people to crane their necks, as if they're looking down at a mobile phone.
When sitting with correct postural alignment, the front of headrest should be perfectly in line with the seat. I'm 6'2", not skinny, not overweight, and no height adjustment of the headrest helps at all. The headrests are just made wrong.
One way to check a person's correct postural alignment is to have them stand up straight with their back flat against a wall. Their shoulders and the back of their head should all touch the wall. (I'm a certified personal trainer. It's my job to know this.)
I found out with my neck problems I can't sit with my head pointed down. My wife drove that car and I drove a Kia. We got rid of 2 other cars and kept the Hyundai because it was in better shape. I think I have it adjusted without bending anything. I'll keep this in mind if I have to do more.
I always wear my hair up which puts a few extra inches behind my head and these stupid headrests push my head so far forward that I can’t even see the windshield!
I don’t care if it’s less safe to mess with the headrests, I’m not willing to have to take my hair down every time I get in the car.
My neck pains started after my first drive which was only 1 hour in the 2014 Nissan Rogue I just bought.... thanks so much for sharing your technique!!! Worked great!!! I got it completely straightened out!
Ok protecting me from whiplash that may never happen, but causing me and my child major problems in the 4 years I've had the car. Had it 4 years and 2 years in me and my 12 years old have major neck pain and feeling like cracking our necks all the time. My poor 12 year old is complaining of neck pain all the time now. This is from our necks being titled forward all the time in our Honda CR-V. I pray this 4 years of having our necks tilted forward, has not given us permanent damage. The doctor said my daughter is showing signs of a small hump on upper back of neck. I'm gonna sue the shit out of them if our necks are messed up now. Are there any universal neck rest that I can switch out for. We also start to feel horrible after just 10-20 mins in the car. We also are suffering major neck pain and major headaches ughhhhh. The Honda CR-V is so severely tilted more then yours. Now my neck constantly feel like it's titled at all times, were seeing chiropractors to see if they can realign us.
I'd love to join a class action lawsuit to get them to provide fore- and aft-adjustability. Audi is the only one I've seen so far that designed theirs with adjustment features.
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A few luxury companies offer better ones but I don't think they are interchangeable. I had to turn mine around and buy a head cushion to add to it. Still hate it but better than before.
@@BillieGote , I just test drove a 2020 Subaru Ascent SUV crossover, and the driver headrest IS ADJUSTABLE! Unfortunately, I decided to go with a different vehicle, so now I cannot enjoy the Subaru's well designed headrest.
@@evildeathmonkey6569 I did the same thing. It is comfortable enough, but owner's manual specifically says not to turn the headrest backwards.
I turned both of mine around so the front faces to the rear of the car but this may be a better option.
I drive for a long time and my neck hurts so much that I reversed the headrest.
This is a huge issue with my Tacoma and Camry. Thank you for the vid and the idea
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First thing to try is turn your headrest around 180 deg. If that doesn't work tilt the seat back until the headrest feels good. Then slide the seat forward until you can reach the pedals properly.
Siclmn Cyclerider great idea! I just turned it backwards and now I'm comfortable.
In most cars, if I turn it around it offers no protection at all. If I tilt my seat back then my shoulders slouch inward too much and I still get pain -- plus my head is still forced forward and it is still hard to look forward.
Get the neck pillow for car instead, which will protect your neck. Pushing the head forward is a no no. This way will cause permernant damage to your spine, then your brain and your whole body. The nerves from your neck, and your spine in general, bring blood to corresponding parts of your body. Do not tilt the seat back, either. It will cause prob your lower back to bend backward and when your back automatically adjust over time because of inversed curve in your lower back, your whole spine will be scruised and you will have lots of problems from head to toes. Beware.
What a stupid law... I suffered so bad because of this poor designs. Isn't it a sad irony that the regulations is trying to protect you from the crash by giving you a lifelong neck-ache...
The safety law had good intentions. It's how certain car manufacturers tried to meet the requirements in a poor manner. Manufacturers like Subaru and Hyundai typically have adjustable head rests that doesn't have this poor neck position problem. The problem is certain car manufacturers trying to save a few bucks.
You can straighten it a lot more to a vertical position, and you'll still get all the whiplash protection you need.
Mine will only go up or down.
I tried it today and it worked like magic! No more sore neck! Thanks!!!
Glad it worked out for you!
Thanks so much for this video. I took delivery of a ZS MG 2 weeks ago, and I’ve been ill for the last two days with a migraine after spending about 2.5 hours driving in a day. The headrest position makes the car unusable for me. That’s a pretty serious design fault.😮
GENIUS! I was going to take my car to upholstery shop to see if they could do it but now I can do it myself. I'm 3 days in from buyiing a 2017 honda accord sport and already having neck pain.
Hi thank you so much. But what on Earth do we do if we have an electric headrest that can't be removed?? It's killing my neck
Some people are have less fat and or muscle on their backs and/or longer, oval heads. Congratulations if your seats don't do this to you. Now go away and stop assuming other people are making it up. Gracias.
Thank you so much for this wonderful tutorial! It was so easy I could do it myself. I just purchased a Lexus Nx sport and I asked the dealer how to adjust the headrest it was so uncomfortable. I can't believe they told me I couldn't. So I ended up turning it backward, which was not very safe. So I spent a couple of hours googling how to fix the problem. Your method worked fantastic. Now I truly love my ride!
Omg. I just bought the same car! What a pain. I don't believe they used a proper dummy. I think they used one that was built like the hunchback of notredame. Man, these new seats are so damned uncomfortable. I just flipped mine around backwards too. I will modify them now. Great video.
Any issues using this method with Lexus headrests when the newer models have that feature of “sliding” or “popping” the headrest even further forward? (So dumb & further unnecessary) I just wouldn’t want to get the thing stuck in the forward-most position, cuz that would only make it worse. ALSO-how much did you change the angle by? The video shows what I would consider a very conservative adjustment. I want to straight up flatten the beast. But I want to do it *well* (in other words, keep it intact!)😅
@@margotk5955You can pop the active Lexus headrest back in place, so it won't be pushing you forward. I plan on doing this with my 2011 LS460 headrests. I already bent then back a bit, but didn't have enough leverage to bend it further.
We finally got a newer car and i always feel like a slept wrong. This neck pain is awful. I am the passenger and find myself holding on to the ceiling hand grab and leaning in towards the middle of the car so my head is to the left of the head restraint. I hate it so much.
Another way I just thought of is to just take the headrest off and turn it backwards. I will fit and it is much more comfortable. I also have a headrest cover that I shove a neck pillow in. It feels dramatically better.
Can we revert this silly policy?? This is ABSURD...people need to be comfortable when they drive.
At least your car is adjustable . The model 3 I am leasing doesn’t have any adjustment. I’m 6’3 and I find it uncomfortable
I'm not sure if they really do use a 6'2" model -- I feel like the taller you get the worse this problem is. -- I'm 6'0, and this is such an awful pain in my neck.
Did this on my 2022 Toyota Sienna before a road trip. Actual back saver! Thanks so much
Very good idea 💡
It's NONE of the GOVERNMENT's BUSINESS telling me what kind of head rest I must have, in order to save me from myself.
I support the inclusion of seatbelts and airbags in cars, because accidents happen even to good drivers -- it only takes one idiot to injure dozens of other people. But forward-tilted headrests actively penalize good drivers to protect idiots who lean their seats back too far, and that's where I draw the line.
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Where are you located can I pay you to do this. What your doing to that head rest is exactly what I need done to my neck now and my daughters ugh.
You are smart! Creative way to use available tools. Thanks, I'll try it.
I put mine in backwards
We tried this 4 times and we could not get the bars to budge! They are so strong! Still a pain in the neck!!! We hope it works for others. Our is a 2017 Lexus NX 200T. We have 30 days to try the car before we are committed to keep it. Need more ideas!
I am 6'4" and my headrest was so annoying and gave me so much pain in my neck that I took the whole thing out and put it in the trunk. I will try your method because headrests are basically a good idea.
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Wished I had come across your channel a lot earlier dear nextmoonyt, the headrest also has other huge problem, it totally obstructs vision to the rear because you see in the rear view mirror, and it blocks rearward vision when backing up. So I just removed it completely instead, good lord the damn thing is removable in my Prius C.
Sorry to disagree, I am 6ft 2in high and I too have problems with the head rest , but the major problem with modern contoured car seats are that they are designed for the comfort (not safety) of the average person who is very definitely not 6ft 2in , so the real reason most people sit (incorrectly) in cars , especially if you are taller than average , is the design of the seat back which curves around the shape of Mr or Mrs Average.
That is exactly what I have thought. I'm also 6' 2" and finally decided that the seat is too concave. The headrest also contributes to this by pushing my head and neck forward. However, the seat itself is so concave, with minimal upper back padding, that it feels like I'm bending forward all of the time. My 2013 Honda Pilot is fine, but brand new F150 truck is horrible.
Its the same for me at 5'9" Problem seems to be universal. Seat seems to be too concave with the head rest too far forwards. Ergonomics are very poor in the newer cars.
Your ideas are so simple and very helpful, thanks man.
I have sunk many dollars into my much older vehicle because I can't find a new car with a comfy seat. (I also haven't searched that hard yet) I hear Mitsubishi has some good seats!
I'm 6"2" and I absolutely can't stand the head rest. I have to lean the seat way back. No Good.
I hate my head rests
Noted*
Great vid and soo helpful. Typical corporate fix, find a cheap way to mass produce at the cost of quality. Some jerk probably got a big bonus for coming up with this one size fits all “safety idea”
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Thank you! I was looking for something like this. I believe this set up can be very dangerous on top of uncomfortable for persons that are not 6ft as it is designed for that height. Was very concerned about safety because of this defect. Thank you! I will fix that now =)
Here’s why I urgently need to change this. I have had three neck surgeries. I had my spinal cord pinched into a flat shape like lasagna. This happened twice. They had to remove 3 discs snd two vertebral bodies. They put a big piece of my bone from the hip crest (iliac crest) and a big plate and screws. I was in danger of being quadriplegic. My wife has a Jeep Cherokee. It causes neck pain to drive or ride in it for both of us. Otherwise she loves the car. She works where she has to park in a parking loft where they seem to delight in dinging your car, otherwise we’d trade it. But we like this car except the headrests. I would buy aftermarket headrests if available or I would pay to bend them. This solution to these legal requirements is asinine! Shame on them! I am thinking of buying a used German SuV for my wife. I have a 2022 BMW and BMW wouldn’t dream of doing this. This bothers most people. We bought the Cherokee in 2019.
This is causing my disc herniation.
I got pain in my neck like if I got a wiplash😳 head rest so uncomfortable 🙄👎🏼in my new car. Thanks for the video. I will try to bend it.
Thanks for sharing this. I'd like to point out that the specification car makers are complying with and what you are addressing here is headrest backset not the height. You keep saying it's for a 6'2" person. The head height mismatch is not the issue. The distance from the headrest is the problem. The NTSA code specifies that the headrest must not be more than 2" away from the 95th percentile head horizontal position. In short, they are going to make super sure they meet this by making the headrest as far FORWARD as possible. So much that you can't avoid touching it. Unfortunately, there is no safety standard for ergonomics.
Super useful, my peugeot is killing my neck
My wifes 2014 corolla gives me migraines, and therefore we mainly use my subaru's for longer trips......now we own 3 subarus, and the toyota is soon to go..
I am all of 5'0". I recently bought a Hyundai Kona & never gave the comfort of the headrest a thought. After getting it home & driving it some I hated the angle my head was, pushing it forward. I was so uncomfortable. I tried raising it but that wasn't the answer. Then the light went on in my head & I thought just flip it. Thankfully it wasn't tethered in with cables or any other hindrance. I am now driving in comfort. I thought why this elaborate solution & long video if he could just remove it & flip it.
I tried flipping mine on my 2010 mazda3 and the angle doesn't work and there is not head support and potentially dangerous in a crash. It's good that he provides a diy solution ☺️
I test drove a loaded Toyota Grand Highlander today. The head restraint was terrible with no fore-aft adjustment like some other manufacturers. Because of that one thing, Toyota lost a $60K+ sale. It's ridiculous that this is still an issue.
Damn dude, this is brilliant!
My wife's jeep cheerokee has headrest like this. I am 6'6" tall and I have same problem as you. After 10 minutes in jeep my neck starts to ache. It really is a terrible design
I'm 6 feet, thin, an this is very unconfortable for me too. I was considering a refund of my new bmw x1 now that it hasn't 15 days. But maybe i bring the headrest to some blacksmith. The engineer who designed that should be brought to the blacksmith too.
Can u fix mine for me? I just bought a 2018 Honda Civic and it’s sooo uncomfortable. I bought new because I wanted the most ergonomic car and that’s not what i got.
This is not acceptable. Us consumers should NOT be spending thousands of dollars for cars we are not comfortable in. UNREAL.
I've taken them out and flipped them the other way! I have a neck injury and these hurt my neck so bad. I've also found some vehicles don't have a release to remove them now!!! I dread looking for a new vehicle because of this! Good to know a way to fix!
Tina Anderson I’m living it.
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Thanks for this video...the headrests in my car are worse than yours.
My stupid headrest is attached to some cable😫
search up the model (ex. honda accord headrest removal) on youtube
I am 6’6” tall and my headrests hit the back of my head constantly. It’s horrible!!
Big thumbs up!
Awesome
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Thank you for posting this. Simple solution: All you have to do is turn it around so that it faces the other way. Just pull it up and out and put it back in the other way. Most cars will let you do this. However, I have rented some that will not let it be removed due to stops at the ends of the poles. On those, you can get sometimes bend it a little from the back seat; get in there and put your knees up behind the top of the chair and bear hug the headrest so that it pulls it toward you bending the mount a little bit. The bars usually do not bend and moving too far can result in the bottom of the mounting sleeves to poke into the back rest right between your shoulder blades, so make this adjustment incrementally. Others, like my wife's X3 have wires in them (for headrests that blast forward during an impact like an airbag). They require more work. Cutting the wire results in airbag warning every time you start the car. I gladly put up with this warning instead of having a stiff neck any time I drive it, but if not, I think I can open up the seat and wire it back to fool the car into thinking it's still withing design parameters. In my opinion, the problem is that they design for people with bad posture who drive with their seats reclined significantly or lean forward over the wheel. I am there to operate a vehicle, not take a nap or kick back and watch some TV. I drive with my seat in a better posture position that is good for my back and neck. As for the "safety requirement": To hell with the whiplash protection; I am GUARANTEED to have neck pain problems with headrests like this, whereas with actual impact-caused whiplash, I only have a SLIGHT CHANCE for it, even with the modification. ANY head rest, even ones turned backwards, will likely provide relatively decent protection as compared to no headrest at all. Besides, in more than In 30 years and hundreds of thousands of miles, I have never been hit in such a way that caused whiplash or neck injury and all that time I did not have a poorly designed, forward leaning headrest.
For most of my life cars didn't even have headrests, or if they did they weren't projected forward until the government got involved. As you say, this is guaranteed to cause problems. I have neck problems already and if I can't straighten my neck up and rest my head in an upright position the problem regresses. A headrest that is too far forward and that can't be adjusted backwards automatically eliminates a car before I even test drive it. Genesis, Mercedes Benz, and Audi, at least a couple years ago, all had headrests that could be moved back a couple of inches. In Cadillac CTS-V with Recaro racing seats, the seat back and headrest are all one piece, and the headrest portion is continuously upright from the seat back, so that is not a problem. I just traded that in, because of torque converter issues, for an Alfa Romeo Gulia Quadrifoglio, A great car with a few quirks-- the head rest seemed acceptable at first but after a few days I find that they are a problem. I was able to turn the headrest backward, which keeps it well away from my head and if I lean back the middle of the back of my head hits the bottom edge of the headrest, which is not as contoured or soft as the front part. It might provide some whiplash protection but I'm afraid it might give me a bit of a concussion also. I have order for 6 different varieties of headrest neck pillows to see if they can be fitted to take up some space and provide additional padding in the reverse position, or even take up some of the space created between the upper seat back and the head rest in it's normal position, and still be comfortable.
I've turned my headrest around on a 2007 Accord and now its like not having a headrest at all because it is now very tilted forward the opposite direction - so now I'm not sure if it will help or make things worse to have no headrest support at all?
@@karenq.9571 I went to Goodwill and purchased several diffferent kinds of pillows and figured out which one was best for my neck to keep it rested on, sewed a band to hold it onto the seat and my neck is happy now! I look like my living room is in my car, I have an assorment of pillows for anyones comfort!
Tim Brown My Subaru Forester doesn’t allow you to turn the headrests around. You can pull the headrest out and put it in backwards but the notches don’t allow you to lower the headrest down which means you can’t bring the seat upright without the headrest hitting the ceiling.
I just took mine off out of frustration, but i think i will do this, instead. That will be safer than not having one. thank you for the video!
horrible design. sure this will save me in the 1 in 1,000 chance I have a whip lash situation, while it guaranteed gives me a neck pin and misalignment. gov’t regulation gone wrong again.
Why not flip it around?
This video should have way more views. I'm a physical therapist and I 100%agree that the new headrest design is horrible. Sustained flexion can cause cervical disc issues and muscle strains. I simply took mine off, flipped it around, and put it back on. Done.
Thank you for your support
Hi, can you please send me an email with more information on the consequence of this poor design? would be helpful...email is gianvillalta@gmail.com [many thanks!!!]
@@designthinkingwithgian Not much else to say really. The cervical spine has a natural curve. The forward headrest does not support that natural curve. The longer the neck stays in flexion, the more likely it causes a disc bulge or muscle strain. That's really it.
I recently got a Rav 4 and absolutely hate the headrests. I will definitely try this.
You can also just turn it around.
These headrests make you put the chair in the worst position for your most vulnerable disc, L5-S1, the bastards. I can’t fix this myself. I’ll try turning it backwards. It’s unsafe driving in a neutral spine/chair position, best for your back with these idiot headrests. As if the manufacturers don’t get enough money.
excuse sir, but why go through all that trouble??? just pull the headrest out and turn it around!!!
I've been driving a Buick regal for a year and a half and like 6 months ago I notice a hump on back of neck and I'm looking like a old person. I think I'm just going to try to get rid of this dumb ass car. I hope my neck can go back to the way it was after I get rid of car
thankj you
In a Kia Ceed, if the seat is upright, then the head restraint restrains my head to such a downward tilt that I have to look above the frame of my glasses to see the road. How is that for a "safety feature"? :D
I would've made it completely straight/ flat like the old cars! I hate a lot of new car seats
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dude this is genius! thanks, I'm probably going to do this, or something like this
One size does NOT fit all
On my 2023 Jeep Wrangler I have the same neck problem. I heard that driving long periods of time is uncomfortable, so, not to void my warranty I might place a special seatback cushion.
Let's bring them to the Court , ASAP.!
I am reading all the comments here and I must be the only one that does not have any problem with the head restraints in my Mercedes. When I sit in my normal driving position, the head restraint is about 50mm away from the back of my head. ( and no, I do not slouch!)
I bought a seat cushion and tied it to the bars. It brings your back forward just enough so your head isn't being pushed forward although I still have have issues when wearing a ponytail or clip in my hair.
I have to keep my back straight up or I have pain in it. So when I do put the seat up to reduce my back pain my chin is now almost in my chest. Now I have shoulder and upper neck pain, and I can't even drive properly. If I'm a passenger I can recline the seat, but then I have lower back & neck pain. I have actually not purchased vehicles for this very reason. The only more modern vehicle I round where this wasn't an issue was my 2014 Murano, so I purchased it, and it's very comfortable to drive or sleep. Thanks for the nice video. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya