Yes indeed. I have the older Fuji X-20(not XF) and the GRII, love both. But the X-20 is heavier, on-off is by turning the lens,not a switch as the GRII. But actually i like analogue photography more.. But of course you can't see the photo's immediately. And development is "expensive" ; black and white is more expensive to develop than color, strange but true.
Your reviews on this camera helped convince me to purchase it. During the few weeks I've had it, I've come to love it. I hike every day with my dogs and soemtimes my X-T2 got to be too much to lug around. This camera fits perfectly in my jacket pocket or my small cross-body bag. I grab it now whenever I go out and I've taken some amazing shots with it that compare to anything from my X-T2. Thank you for your reviews. They've been very helpful to me.
Good, practical review. I still love my Fuji x70 - working around slower autofocus is a creative constraint that forces you to find ways to get the results you want without using technology as too much of a crutch.
For street I’m using a Leica D-Lux 5. Excellent camera. I’m looking to get the GR II to add to my stable. The GR II is a legend in the street community for good reason. The XF10 has an excellent menu system with outstanding build and image quality. If you have an opportunity to shoot with both cameras then the decision comes down to personal preference.
My biggest issue with the XF10 is still that there is no built in lens protection so when you go to pull it out of a pocket you still need to fumble with a lens cap. With the GR I just pull it out of the pocket and power it up in one motion. Super quick.
I wonder how much slower from the Xt-1. If it's the same I can definitely live with it, I don't want to pull the trigger if the x70 upgrade will be out this year, if not, I'm buying the x70 on eBay.
Hi Eric just a my first real go with the camera and the SR+ worked well. The results are not always perfect but fine for street images. Street is not fine art photography but to record events as they happen without being burdened with loads of gear. Thanks very much. Mike
Bro really just did the whole video in his hallway. Jokes aside I really like how genuine this felt! The echo reminds me of being questioned by police officers tho. „Why are you taking pictures of strangers?“ „It’s called street photography you dirty pig bastards!“
I'm just amazed this guy has a beaten GR with scruffs and broken LCD still working.. and I'm here watching XF10 comparison because my 2 GRs that I loved (GRI and GRIII) broke down with a lens stepper motor issue, close to pristine condition.
Seriously, for a guy that has videos on overcoming GAS, his idea is until you can figure out which one you prefer (which he clearly really hasn't) buy both?
Good comparison. I used the GR II for about 4 months earlier this year, but finally sold it. My main complaint is that the exposure compensation rocker switch is right where my thumb goes and I was forever being surprised by greatly under exposed pics (as much as 4 stops). I also found in certain light I simply could not see anything on the viewing screen. I don't know if theX-F10 is any better in this regard, but I am going to give it a try. At least the exposure compensation switch won't be a problem (they seem to have fixed it on the GR II, but $900 is too much). Maybe a better second camera would be the X70 with tilting screen.
Eric you make interesting points and I’ve gone with the XF10 being the latest realise. So far so good but the SR+ mode does make it easy for street. The colours are very good and the snap focus seems to work. Only shot about 60 frames but one of the images was taken up by Flickr in explore group. Street and auto settings work well being such an instant art so if you miss a few pictures so be it. Thanks for you video. Mike
#1) GR II AF sucks because it has only 9 points of Contrast Detect AF, but most Ricoh Mafia members don't care because they love "snap focus" (the automation of hyperfocal pre-focus which you can of course do with the manual focus of any camera) #2) AF on XF-10 should be orders of magnitude more accurate and FASTER because it has 91 points of on-sensor Phase Detect AF (if you don't know the difference between the two, google that). And if that isn't enough to sway you, don't forget 3.9" close focus without having to manually engage "macro mode", 24mp instead of 16mp, and being 3 years newer and from a company leveraging its extensive R&D in mirrorless innovation.
For the record, there should be NO COMPARISON between the AF of GR II (9 points of contrast detect AF) and XF-10 (91 points of phase detect AF). If Eric isn't seeing (or acknowledging) the difference, then I have to believe he doesn't really know how to configure and use Fuji AF, which is not such an unreasonable conclusion from someone with a career of mostly using snap focus and Leicas. Look at all the sports cameras with industry leading AF. They DON"T USE contrast detect. They use phase detect AF.
I've never seen another camera that could shoot at a specific focal distance without changing the dials or menus if you're shooting in an AF mode, or at least I've never learned how. How do you do it?
@@jonmatle The technique which predates the GR II snap focus innovation, is to put camera in manual mode, set aperture to f/8 or f/11 (f/16 if you don't mind diffraction), the shutter speed to whatever freezes motion for your circumstances (I use 1/640th), these days set the ISO to auto, pre-focus to a specific distance (looked up once on the hyperfocal table for the lens and for the aperture, google "dofmaster") and that's it. You can shoot all afternoon that way, just point the camera in any direction, and if you have set up everything just right, you might have everything between 1m and infinity in acceptable focus. I love doing this and have done so on 3 different systems now. What I love is taking focus accuracy and lag out of the equation entirely. The camera becomes a light box that instantly "snaps" anything in its field of view with amazing depth of field. On FF a 28mm and wider lens is recommended, and on APS-C, an 18mm and wider lens is recommended, so that the depths of field start at 1m for reasonable apertures.
For a 5+ years old sensor on GRii (yes, its sensor was carry from GR, which is released somewhere 2013), its autofocusing capability is not too bad, especially consider it is not a high end model like Sony RX1Rii, which using A7Rii's sensor. I found out sometimes the autofocus was done while I composing, so, I consider it is not a big deal.
@@therealsergio Oh, but that's not what snap focus does. That's just setting manual settings for street. I have both the Ricoh and the Fuji X70 so I don't think I'm overly biased. You can change between modes on the Fuji to accomplish the same thing (the CAM switch on the front), but you can't accomplish the same thing without changing focus modes on anything other than the Ricoh that I've found.
Eric, I like what you're doing. One point of critique: Why do you always have to "rock" every strap or other meaningless optical accessory on a camera. Can you not just "wear" them? Just a tiny thing ;)
Mac Jim the feature we love the most about the GR II is Snap Focus, which is similar to zone focusing on a manual focus lens. You can set the autofocus to a specific focus distance (1m, 1.5m, 2m, 2.5m, 5m or infinity) and the camera will tell you how deep your depth of field is depending on the aperture you select. Fujifilm added a similar feature to the XF10 called Snapshot: you can choose between 1m and f/8 or 5m and f/5.6.
The SR mode on the xf10 sucks like other Ai modes on all other camera's. The focus hunts and you have no control on everything. A and M mode. The only 2 I use on all my camera's. Further the xf10 is great!
The "P" mode can be acceptable in certain situations; I agree SR+ mode has not done much for me other than teach me that I needed to learn everything else. I'm glad I learned my way around the camera too, because yo can change things VERY fast using the touch screen and all. Snapshot mode is good because one swipes gets you there instantly. I like having a max ISO setting and MIN shutter speed all ready to go.
GR III dropped the flash. Go to a birthday party with your kids and tell me the GR III is wonderful. The GR II is BETTER than the III. I LOVE the XF10 is awesome too.
Look when the GRII was put out, long awhile ago. I have the gr III mine has the flash (not the new gr3), mine has the faster 28mm f1.8 lens. Better then vr.2. So many of the gr's that was put-out after the v2 are ignored.
Another ridiculous video full of inaccurate and irrelevant statements . Anyone who relies on your advice should view the video you first posted on the first Ricoh GR.. and the second one ... and they will understand what I am talking about
GR ii has iso 100 and sharp to edge lens, the Fuji doesn’t have either, yea and also snap mode, no way Fuji is better on the street, this guy needs to stop giving foolish opinions “the xf10 turns on a little faster” “I assume the xf10 has newer tech” lmao have a little decency to yourself, u sell workshop to ppl.
I just brought the GRii from your recommendation and now your saying the XF10 is better wanker. Lol only joking I love the GRii the grip body texture is premium, Fuji paint jobs are crap and the menu I do find myself fiddling too much. My Panasonic G9 has a great menu which makes things easier, but my GRii is not my everyday pocket camera. Lumix G9 is when I'm on a day out planned shooting.
@@AndresRuiz-gs8vmcheers for the advice I just brought a moment case for my OnePlus 6 and a sirus 60mm lens works great for getting that little bit closer. It will be my Ricoh GR ii side kick. 😉
Ken Rocker said to get a tg5 because you might drop your $1000 I phone. Then he said the I phone is better than the Xf10. I payed $200 for a mill speck android. Il get a camera for pictures.
Next episode... Why I Like the Ricoh GR III (a Little More) than the Fujifilm XF10 - :)
Yes indeed. I have the older Fuji X-20(not XF) and the GRII, love both. But the X-20 is heavier, on-off is by turning the lens,not a switch as the GRII. But actually i like analogue photography more.. But of course you can't see the photo's immediately. And development is "expensive" ; black and white is more expensive to develop than color, strange but true.
@@wordwarrior2350 filming for me is just fun. My career is in aviation :) - cheers´
Your reviews on this camera helped convince me to purchase it. During the few weeks I've had it, I've come to love it. I hike every day with my dogs and soemtimes my X-T2 got to be too much to lug around. This camera fits perfectly in my jacket pocket or my small cross-body bag. I grab it now whenever I go out and I've taken some amazing shots with it that compare to anything from my X-T2. Thank you for your reviews. They've been very helpful to me.
Dude, where are the photos ?!
Good, practical review. I still love my Fuji x70 - working around slower autofocus is a creative constraint that forces you to find ways to get the results you want without using technology as too much of a crutch.
For street I’m using a Leica D-Lux 5.
Excellent camera.
I’m looking to get the GR II to add to my stable. The GR II is a legend in the street community for good reason.
The XF10 has an excellent menu system with outstanding build and image quality.
If you have an opportunity to shoot with both cameras then the decision comes down to personal preference.
I found the Ringke lanyard style neck strap to work for the Fuji XF10 since it only has the one wrist strap section on the right side.
My biggest issue with the XF10 is still that there is no built in lens protection so when you go to pull it out of a pocket you still need to fumble with a lens cap. With the GR I just pull it out of the pocket and power it up in one motion. Super quick.
I wonder how much slower from the Xt-1. If it's the same I can definitely live with it, I don't want to pull the trigger if the x70 upgrade will be out this year, if not, I'm buying the x70 on eBay.
@@HilarioGalan AF in XT1 is much faster from XF10. There is no comparison trust me. The X70 is discontinued, no hope for an X80.
Those cheap auto lens covers are the first thing to break.
Hi Eric just a my first real go with the camera and the SR+ worked well. The results are not always perfect but fine for street images. Street is not fine art photography but to record events as they happen without being burdened with loads of gear. Thanks very much. Mike
Bro really just did the whole video in his hallway. Jokes aside I really like how genuine this felt! The echo reminds me of being questioned by police officers tho.
„Why are you taking pictures of strangers?“
„It’s called street photography you dirty pig bastards!“
i'll wait GR3 ...
I'm just amazed this guy has a beaten GR with scruffs and broken LCD still working.. and I'm here watching XF10 comparison because my 2 GRs that I loved (GRI and GRIII) broke down with a lens stepper motor issue, close to pristine condition.
Seriously, for a guy that has videos on overcoming GAS, his idea is until you can figure out which one you prefer (which he clearly really hasn't) buy both?
Its the new "two cameras and two lenses" philosophy that we all had been waiting for as an upgrade to the more old fashioned idea.
Tell us what camera with crap AF you filmed this on so we can avoid it. Unfortunately, I think you might say it was a GH5!
Good comparison. I used the GR II for about 4 months earlier this year, but finally sold it. My main complaint is that the exposure compensation rocker switch is right where my thumb goes and I was forever being surprised by greatly under exposed pics (as much as 4 stops). I also found in certain light I simply could not see anything on the viewing screen. I don't know if theX-F10 is any better in this regard, but I am going to give it a try. At least the exposure compensation switch won't be a problem (they seem to have fixed it on the GR II, but $900 is too much). Maybe a better second camera would be the X70 with tilting screen.
Eric you make interesting points and I’ve gone with the XF10 being the latest realise. So far so good but the SR+ mode does make it easy for street. The colours are very good and the snap focus seems to work. Only shot about 60 frames but one of the images was taken up by Flickr in explore group. Street and auto settings work well being such an instant art so if you miss a few pictures so be it. Thanks for you video. Mike
Hey Eric how about now with the GRiii? Your thoughts as I start going back on the streets and want to get one of these cameras
#1) GR II AF sucks because it has only 9 points of Contrast Detect AF, but most Ricoh Mafia members don't care because they love "snap focus" (the automation of hyperfocal pre-focus which you can of course do with the manual focus of any camera) #2) AF on XF-10 should be orders of magnitude more accurate and FASTER because it has 91 points of on-sensor Phase Detect AF (if you don't know the difference between the two, google that). And if that isn't enough to sway you, don't forget 3.9" close focus without having to manually engage "macro mode", 24mp instead of 16mp, and being 3 years newer and from a company leveraging its extensive R&D in mirrorless innovation.
For the record, there should be NO COMPARISON between the AF of GR II (9 points of contrast detect AF) and XF-10 (91 points of phase detect AF). If Eric isn't seeing (or acknowledging) the difference, then I have to believe he doesn't really know how to configure and use Fuji AF, which is not such an unreasonable conclusion from someone with a career of mostly using snap focus and Leicas. Look at all the sports cameras with industry leading AF. They DON"T USE contrast detect. They use phase detect AF.
I've never seen another camera that could shoot at a specific focal distance without changing the dials or menus if you're shooting in an AF mode, or at least I've never learned how. How do you do it?
@@jonmatle The technique which predates the GR II snap focus innovation, is to put camera in manual mode, set aperture to f/8 or f/11 (f/16 if you don't mind diffraction), the shutter speed to whatever freezes motion for your circumstances (I use 1/640th), these days set the ISO to auto, pre-focus to a specific distance (looked up once on the hyperfocal table for the lens and for the aperture, google "dofmaster") and that's it. You can shoot all afternoon that way, just point the camera in any direction, and if you have set up everything just right, you might have everything between 1m and infinity in acceptable focus. I love doing this and have done so on 3 different systems now. What I love is taking focus accuracy and lag out of the equation entirely. The camera becomes a light box that instantly "snaps" anything in its field of view with amazing depth of field. On FF a 28mm and wider lens is recommended, and on APS-C, an 18mm and wider lens is recommended, so that the depths of field start at 1m for reasonable apertures.
For a 5+ years old sensor on GRii (yes, its sensor was carry from GR, which is released somewhere 2013), its autofocusing capability is not too bad, especially consider it is not a high end model like Sony RX1Rii, which using A7Rii's sensor. I found out sometimes the autofocus was done while I composing, so, I consider it is not a big deal.
@@therealsergio Oh, but that's not what snap focus does. That's just setting manual settings for street. I have both the Ricoh and the Fuji X70 so I don't think I'm overly biased. You can change between modes on the Fuji to accomplish the same thing (the CAM switch on the front), but you can't accomplish the same thing without changing focus modes on anything other than the Ricoh that I've found.
Eric, I like what you're doing. One point of critique: Why do you always have to "rock" every strap or other meaningless optical accessory on a camera. Can you not just "wear" them? Just a tiny thing ;)
Do you have a gallery of your shots with these? I’d like to see the mall flash shots.
Erick keeps going honest review good work.
Content is great but too much out of focus makes this almost unwatchable
No photos!???? No wonder so many thumbs down.
Nah, it is the Ricoh fanboys rising up. I have owned both....get the Fuji for better image quality.
Why so many thumbs down? Eric is great!
Ricoh fanboys.
Title doesn't make sense. It reads "Why I Like the Fujifilm XF10 than the Ricoh GR II" when you remove the text in the parentheses.
*(a little) more.
Everybody just keep their pants on.
Would love to see your review on GR III when it comes out
Do you really know what you like?
How is the snapfocus mode of xf10? Is it okay?
No, it’s no ok
Daniele Parini could you clarify your comment, in what way is not?
Mac Jim the feature we love the most about the GR II is Snap Focus, which is similar to zone focusing on a manual focus lens. You can set the autofocus to a specific focus distance (1m, 1.5m, 2m, 2.5m, 5m or infinity) and the camera will tell you how deep your depth of field is depending on the aperture you select. Fujifilm added a similar feature to the XF10 called Snapshot: you can choose between 1m and f/8 or 5m and f/5.6.
Daniele Parini okay, thank you for that extra information... appreciated
@@macjim actually you can do that with any camera. Manual focus, 2m f8. Done.
The XF10 is a great wee street camera Eric...
"Why choose one and I'll take both"
can you send raw dng files from your fujifilm xf10 to your smartphone?
And still, the matrix, faster focus are more effective and it is slightly less than the size - all or it is all about pictures???
What camera are you recording this video with? Is it the lumix g9?
What kind of suggestion is take both. Not all people are rich. Mah.
Haha Eric Kim is rich! He reminds us all the time.
@Coni Glione i have a GR II since 2 years. A newcomer comes here and the suggestion is take both?
@Geetist are you Kim's lawyer or just a fanboy? Critics are fair when you go public.
Thanks for this very informative video. Would you recommend buying one of these out of Japan?
Ricoh GRIII is going to make the XF1O look like a childs toy.
Yes but will cost double the price too. Rumors say near 1000euros.
they got rid of the flash on the grIII im so bummed
@@ogmike6444 why is everybody talking about that horrible flash that was on the GRII I don't get it ? If you need a flash then get a real one :)
The III is out and your prediction is a fail.
It looks and sounds like you’re in the men’s room
The SR mode on the xf10 sucks like other Ai modes on all other camera's. The focus hunts and you have no control on everything. A and M mode. The only 2 I use on all my camera's. Further the xf10 is great!
The "P" mode can be acceptable in certain situations; I agree SR+ mode has not done much for me other than teach me that I needed to learn everything else. I'm glad I learned my way around the camera too, because yo can change things VERY fast using the touch screen and all. Snapshot mode is good because one swipes gets you there instantly. I like having a max ISO setting and MIN shutter speed all ready to go.
The Fuji is a better camera.
Or GR 3?)
I'll go for the xf 10 much cheaper, does the job.
GR III dropped the flash. Go to a birthday party with your kids and tell me the GR III is wonderful. The GR II is BETTER than the III. I LOVE the XF10 is awesome too.
Focus Dammit ....... Focus.
You shouldn't say that, the Ricoh is a pocket camera, because it is! The xf10 can be any good, someone once said it's not! And that's it!
Eric Kim necks strap. ..give it a break ffs.
You really to practice before you shoot these or at least shoot them in a way that you can cut round your unprofessional continual loss of focus
Awesome info bro just came across this video basically I'm getting a FUJIFILM XF10 this week.
Look when the GRII was put out, long awhile ago. I have the gr III mine has the flash (not the new gr3), mine has the faster 28mm f1.8 lens. Better then vr.2. So many of the gr's that was put-out after the v2 are ignored.
LX100 II/Leica D Lux 7?
I’m waiting for a pancake 17mm EOS-M lens.
You should have done more depth of field in your video.
Another ridiculous video full of inaccurate and irrelevant statements . Anyone who relies on your advice should view the video you first posted on the first Ricoh GR.. and the second one ... and they will understand what I am talking about
GR ii has iso 100 and sharp to edge lens, the Fuji doesn’t have either, yea and also snap mode, no way Fuji is better on the street, this guy needs to stop giving foolish opinions “the xf10 turns on a little faster” “I assume the xf10 has newer tech” lmao have a little decency to yourself, u sell workshop to ppl.
It's about making money now. Sad.
I got the Xf10 new for $333
I turned off at "Hi street togs". The guy's a joke.
Love it💜✌🏽
I've been enjoying all your content and glad you are doing this comparison. You could have edited this down tho :/
I just brought the GRii from your recommendation and now your saying the XF10 is better wanker.
Lol only joking I love the GRii the grip body texture is premium, Fuji paint jobs are crap and the menu I do find myself fiddling too much. My Panasonic G9 has a great menu which makes things easier, but my GRii is not my everyday pocket camera. Lumix G9 is when I'm on a day out planned shooting.
justyjust get the huawei with a 28mm summilux!!
@@AndresRuiz-gs8vmcheers for the advice I just brought a moment case for my OnePlus 6 and a sirus 60mm lens works great for getting that little bit closer. It will be my Ricoh GR ii side kick. 😉
oh men, why so obssessed with close focusing the camera.. thanks for content anyway
Ken Rocker said to get a tg5 because you might drop your $1000 I phone.
Then he said the I phone is better than the Xf10.
I payed $200 for a mill speck android. Il get a camera for pictures.
just google ricoh gr lens stuck, crap quality
lol John Wick :))) good point
This dude tries to sell 3500 USD workshops. LMAO hahahaha
How does battery life compare?