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Sauron Vs Lich King Death Battle REaction
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
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You know what shocked me the most when they revealed this? The fact that when they revealed this a good chunk of the community went "Who?" I was so shocked at seeing just how many people didn't know who Sauron or the Lich King were.
Damn
Feel old yet?
@@svolozhanin7627 it isn't about being old. they cast a really wide net when it comes to viewer fandoms and interests. I'm not a fan of the channel myself, but I think boomstick as a narrator also draws in a younger audience compared to 11 years ago where he would have short lines bouncing off wiz, telling jokes, or insulting the characters.
They didn’t know Sauron? Oh man…
I've heard of Sauron before but I never watched any LOTR movies.
Voldemort is shitting his pants seeing both of these and you can't tell me otherwise xD
Yeah, old Voldy is pretty weak-sauce next to Sauron or the Lich King.
Hell, the Witch-King of Angmar was a more terrible Dark Lord in his own right. And he was literally just trying to screw the good guys over while Sauron pulled himself back together.
I mean, he is very low tier when it comes to power.
He is just smart. But not even OP smart like Batman.
Real life weapons can threaten him.
Just goes to show that when it comes to the whole “gods vs mortals” scene… he’s out of his league.
Voldemort is a coward with power. He would even last a moment close to Sauron without loosing his shit.
The wolf howls. The ravens flee.
The ice mutters in the mouth of the sea.
The captives sad, in Icecrown mourn.
Thunder rumbles. The fires burn.
And Arthas fell before the throne.
Nice!
I see what you did there, well done.
The argument of "Is Arthas wrong for purging a city?" have been regurgitated over and over. But I'll always stick to the answer of "No, he did nothing wrong."
1. Have you seen any zombie movie?
2. The people have already been infected by consuming the grains.
3. Containing the city will only make it worse as the Scourge and the Dreadlord are already there speeding up the process, so they will coordinate the Undead to break out. Not only would you have the moral dilemma of letting the citizens suffer, you also allow the enemy to gain an army of fodders to throw at you.
And they would then have a stronghold from which to rampage, and which would be a huge pain to re-take.
Yeah, but Arthas has always been a bloodthirsty MFer. Let's not forget what he did to all his friends, not to mention Sylvanas.
I mean, we're talking about a guy who murder both Ner'zuul and his conscience just so nothing would stand in his way.
The fact that he was right about the purge was more a case of "a stopped clock is right at least twice a day"
two will always be the biggest sticking point, those people were already dead.
12:30 Thank you! People just act like they've never seen zombie movies or played a zombie game before. And people were like "Just quarantine them." Ignoring the fact that it's a city full of undead that's going to attack and overwhelm defenses. I hate it when people use this one moment to define Arthas being evil.
This is the moment that broke him, not the moment that made him evil.
Completely agree.
The purge was quite literally the only right decision, Jaina and Uther pussied out and left Arthus hanging in the one moment he needed them most and could have actually prevented him from going full rogue if they actually nutted up and did what was necessary
Sauron is powerful beyond words. Yet the only canon for Sauron are from the original books, he gets a lot of disservice in the games that go way off canon and even the film's.
Sauron was an artificier, a smith originally who loved creating things to basically be perfect. But was twisted by Morgoth and his ambition changed into wanting to control middle earth.
Also the sinking of Numenor was way bigger than just an island being swallowed by the sea. The whole planet was reshaped in the act as it went from being a flat earth to a globe.
Remember though that Death Battles rule is that even if it isn't canon, as long as it doesn't contradict the original material, it will be used.
That's why, just as one random example, The Legends timeline is used during any Star Wars matchup.
yes, but you can't calculate that nearly as well, so they focus on the comparable aspects.
@@danielwilson8604 Exactly. So many people thinks Death Battle "nerfs" characters, but a good amount of the time, they're just stating what's definitive rather than what's speculative or impossible to figure out.
The lich king wasn't forced back by the forsaken at wrathgate, he was feigning weakness to lure in the 25 man sweaty nerd team so he could mind control them. It seems a fair bet that Arthas could have wiped the raid at any point, he was just testing azeroth's champions until frigging *UTHER* caught him slipping for a moment.
He does in fact one shot the entire party during the raid, you just get Deus ex Machina back for the last phase.
My only rage at that is that he permanently sacrificed half his power and all his friends/followers/top commanders... For 25 needs, just 25 nerds in a "trust us we totally killed the lich king, no don't question why the Scourge are still invading and still saying 'praise the lich King's'" followup to him claiming them...either don't have him give up those followers and that power, or make his plan about getting people other than those 25 nerds.
What Arthas did at Stratholme was a mercy to its citizens. The city was already doomed and Mal'Ganis was there collecting the undead as the people died. To be killed by Arthas' hand was to avoid becoming Scourge, to avoid becoming a weapon against your family, neighbors, and countrymen. If the purging had occurred simply due to suspicion that they may have been infected, that would have been questionable, but the city was already doomed and Arthas was saving his people in the only way he could - the mercy of death.
1:22- Souls in Tolkien's works can't be destroyed.
Really? How so?
@@palkoescobar5997 just the rules. Maybe dominated but never destroyed. Since it is bible based and you can't destroy souls.
@@vitaliyred622 The reason why I'm asking is because I'm currently working on a fantasy title, and I wanted to make it so that souls cannot be destroyed, and when I saw this comment, I wanted to learn how it works in Lord of the Rings, in order to gather some inspiration.
But if what you say is true, then I guess I have to come up with something on my own, because my story is anything but bible based.
@@vitaliyred622 BTW, why is it that if a story is Bible based, then souls can't be destroyed?
@@palkoescobar5997 Eru Illuvitar (Omnipotent God) made a thing called The Flame Imperishable, something that couldn't be destroyed or corrupted, and from that he forged all souls, even using it later to imbue the dwarves with true life and free will.
As for the Christian thing: all souls are made by God, and will one day stand before Him, by their own free will souls can try to postpone it (becoming ghosts and such), but it is a thing guaranteed to happen because He didn't want any of his children to be able to fully avoid it (or something like that) by finding something like complete destruction (something that only God is supposed to be capable of). It's also where things like the promise of eternal life and suffering in things like Heaven and Hell are supposed to come in (something can't be eternal if just anyone can end either).
That last one is a bit long, but right now I can't think of a better and shorter way to put it.
Saurons is also literally a demigod. To be honest in his full power during second age and having the ring you could say he was a god
Arthas did nothing wrong unlike a pepega Magnus. He literally did the only choice there was. Anyone would have done the same.Also, you said everything Asmongold said when reacting to this video 10/10!
while Arthas didn't fuckup like magnus (in magnitude and scale of fuckups),
or griffith (in fucked-upness of the fuckups) he DID do a lot wrong and no amount of COPIUN will redeem him from being a spoiled brat too stubborn and with a head too far up his rear to think about what other wiser people told him IN THE CHANCE they might be right, he just *HAD* to follow the Demon vampire to the *middle* of fucking nowhere then grab the damn death blade all to satisfy his EGO and it costed so many for it.
@@vanconojl Yes, Arthas did much wrong, and many big stupids, but purging the town was the right move.
@@vanconojl
You're as blind and wrong as Uther was in Warcraft 3
How does Arthas ever have a chance of fighting Sauron in the first place
Plus Sauron has better drip
@@viroszelmire1391 Personally, I prefer the Lich King drip
absolute BS gear and magic.
but nowhere near enough experience to harm Sauron in a way that matters.
@@Sanguiris
Eh, Lich King’s armour (and most of WOW armour) is seriously goofy and overly big.
@@ulfberht4431 There is nothing goofy about it and i'd say the size is fine
I knew Sauron would win mostly because the only way to kill him permanently is to destroy the one ring which can only be destroyed by the fires of mount doom also Sauron is an angel/Demi god while arthas is a man
And even then, Sauron doesn’t actually die. He just loses a lot of his power and can no longer construct himself a physical form on his own. I’d imagine the only way Sauron could truly die is if Eru personally destroyed Sauron’s spirit, but that’s just a theory.
@@jaydonmagan4694 You are correct, only Eru can destroy his soul.
The plague was made by the Cult, but the blight was made by the forsaken and unlike the plague, targeted both the living AND dead, as the plan was to wipe everything else out and take over what's left. If I remember right, anyway. Been a while.
Sauron obliterates arthas, every time. No contest.
24:05 the blight was made to kill undead and living
This death battle came out before Shadowlands I think. So the Jailer bullshit was not factored in.
the guy from evil west kinda looks like matt from demoranch.
Sauron would win yes, but I do not think his mace can shatter frostmourn.
He could probably do it with his bare fists though. The mace is only a thing in the movies and games, whereas he originally fought with his bare hands in the books which, from what I heard, would literally be on fire. Considering more of his power would pulsate through his hands, I’d be willing to surmise Sauron could destroy Frostmourn in that way.
@@jaydonmagan4694 Also, Sauron was a master smith, since he forged the one ring it isn't such a stretch to think he would forge pretty powerful weapons too.
He was channeling the power of the ring through the mace, so it was more of frostmourne vs the ring, and I'm pretty sure the ring is more powerful. Though I'm not a WoW fan so I don't know the power of frostmourne.
Arthas had no choice when it came to stratholom the plague was spreading uncontained within the city and if left unchecked it would cause far worse problems quarantining the city would would have ensured that the undead would be able to muster and organize and lead in assault on the quarantining army while the cult of the Damned worked its magic inside the camped Army sometimes life gives you two choices and both of them are horrible and doing nothing would be the third choice that would be the worst.
I need to be a nerd and correct the one thing. Sauron WAS captured aftered Morgoths defeat. Eonwe gave him a chance to show contrition and go to Valinor to repent before Manwe and Varda. He almost did but his shame caused him to flee instead.
Lich King was too chilled & Sauron brought up the heat💚
Idk if I'd say what Arthas did was right, but I WILL say I get it. It's logically sound. At the very least, it may not have been right, but it wasn't really wrong, either. But as usual, it also mostly depends on your own point of view.
Honestly, I never got why people had a problem with his decision, Arthas made the right choice, simple as that, right just doesn't mean morally good, sometimes all of your options are shitty ones.
bit late here, but, they downplayed both charecters bad. Illiadan was about the destroy Northrend and later he destroyed a whole planet.
SO iif you wanna use their scaling, arthas scales to at least planetary.
That being said, both characters are universal +.
I just don't want complain about every thing but just no Sauron can't absorbe souls if case of powers don't look at movies and games... and no Saruman wasn't on Sauron side he plot againts him...
It's not bullshit that Death Knight Arthas defeated Illidan. Blizzard even recently confirmed it again in the recap cinematic for WotLK classic. Also how was Illidan not taking Arthas seriously when he literally went into his most powerful metamorphosis form? Illidan fans copium for real.
It's is/isn't. That Arthas won a sword/melee duel makes sense since Illidan was jailed for an absurd amount of time, and Blizzard has flip flopped on it but Elves more or less to atrophy over time.
In terms of magic, even as how WoW has bullshitted it, no Illidan should have won hands down.
But most of that fight was purely skill at arms, so Arthas wins.
Hey, can you please react to necrit lol mmo videos please?
ultimately Arthas may have made the right call, but it doesnt change the fact how eager Arthas was to slaughter them, there was no compassion, no remorse, and that is why Uther and Jaina objected so fiercely. WoW fans seem to be quite oblivious to the darkness within Arthas Menethil, but it existed nonetheless... also there are those who keep claiming that Frostmourne took over Arthas, but then once taking the helm of the Lich King, what kept him from unleashing The Scourge upon all of Azeroth? after all that is what The Scourge was created for. Frostmourne may have been whispering things to him, but he still committed the sins, slaughtering his father, betraying his teacher and friend, destroying his own kingdom. that "Arthas did nothing wrong" bullshit i will tolerate no longer, he was evil and in the end he deserved to be DE'd into Soul Ash, Arthas simps be damned.
Arthas did nothing wrong.
@@johnkonig865 lol yeah, keep telling yourself that, boi. when even the mofos who wrote the story are saying that he was evil, you're still defending Arthas, that makes you a simp.
@@UltimateGamerCC Mate, you do understand that there's a difference between 'Arthas did nothing wrong' and 'Arthas did nothing bad', right?
If all your options are shit, and you go with the best one that you have available, then you didn't do anything wrong, sometimes there just isn't a morally good decision for you to choose.
@@johnkonig865 naw, you show some kind of emotion in that instance. instead Arthas was like "welp... time to cleanse the city." but that was necessary right? how about the people that he stranded in Northrend to die and WE had to bring their spirits peace. where's your ambiguous morality there? you Arthas simps got nothing, snort the Soul Ashes of your precious 'saint'.
I'd like to be the first to say that I'm a huge fan of both LOTR and WOW, and have read most of the books in those works as well. So I dare say my comment will be food for thought.
Objectively, the video is wrong.
1. Sauron lost his ability to morph after losing his body.
2. His armor and weapon are formed by his will with dark magic = not on the level of ancient artifacts capable of destroying Frostmourne. Even Sauron's body is created by the will and power of the ring = No blood.
3. the Lich King wasn't just a demigod like Sauron. He was the one who killed and enslaved the ancient demigods, demons and their magic.
He literally had the power to kill and enslave creatures on the level of Balrogs and Great Dragons (creations of Morgoth), which even Sauron himself feared. Sauron was not afraid to go into only one type of conflict, and that was with mortals... and he was defeated by a mortal.
4 Sauron's real power has always been his strategic skills and the power of the ring to corrupt the souls of all who were in his presence.
5. Even if he didn't have the Eye of Acherus, the Lich King would have found out rather quickly during the duel what Sauron drew his power from.
Bottom line, confirmed. This video is nicely done, but incredibly flawed done by people who may have had some sort of poll on Discord.
The video would really make it look like there were 2 fights in reality. The first duel where the Lich King would cut off the ring of power. Sauron would have counted on that, like the good strategist he always was.He was counting on the Lich King taking the Ring and deploying it to usurp the new power, at which point he would usurp the Lich King and all his power. BUT Sauron wouldn't know that the Lich King had already experienced a battle of wills in such a powerful artifact. And that was when he, as Arthas, killed the soul of Ner'zhul (Lich King) while passing the power of the crown, which took 10 years.
Thus, he would master the power of the ring and become an invincible force.
P.S. There is much more power hidden in the Crown than in the Ring, which can be seen in the amount of destruction it will bring. After the Ring is destroyed, a volcano erupts and an earthquake destroys most of the army of Mordor. When the Lich King's crown is destroyed, the very fabric of reality is destroyed, breaking the barrier between the world of the living and the world of the dead. This comparison of power is legitimate, just as we can compare the size and mass of stars and the effects of their supernovae. The ring - a big supernova. The Crown - a giant supernova that went into a black hole.
PS2: Here we are only talking about a 1v1 combat. In the context of armies, Sauron wouldn't stand a chance (LOTR 3 ghosts, imagine...). And even if Sauron had legions of Nazgholes, the Lich King would have no problem binding them to his will.
Game, set and match - Lich King wins
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"wizards"!? why u do differentiate Istari (Saruman,Genfalf,Radagast and blue guys) to Sauron , they re the same in terms of origin .they are all Maiar ffs
Probably because the Istari had restrictions placed on them that Sauron didn't.
@@UltimaXReborn Also because not all Maiar are equal in power, just like the Valar are not all equals. Sauron is of a "far higher order" than any of the wizards, per Tolkien.