Does God love the wicked the same way He loves the elect?
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Does God love everyone in the same way-both His redeemed people and His enemies? From one of our live events, R.C. Sproul helps us understand what it means that “God so loved the world” (John 3:16).
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Wish R.C. Sproul was still with us, I miss his great sense of humor and his friendship with Johnny Mac.
He is with Christ, and out of this fallen world.
You miss him. So you saw him in person regularly....
I miss him
RC has helped shape my love of The Word and worship. I look forward to seeing him in glory. I thank God for the blessing of the gift of teaching that He blessed RC with that has impacted my life to live holy and pleasing before Him🙏🏿♥️
"synergism" 😆😆😆
""Who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has He asked to be His counselor"
"I saw 24 other thrones around the throne, and on them seated 24 elders...and the 24 fell on their faces before the one who sits on the throne and gave all glory to God.."
The Bible teaches monergism alone, quite obvious to anyone NOT still enveloped in the delusion of their own self righteousness. 🤷
@Sage of Synergism God doesn't "ordain" sin, or temptation.
By His Spirit living in us He enables us to live lives pleasing to Him. But our old sinful nature sometimes overcomes our new nature, and we sin.
Praise God we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous! (1 John 2:1)
@Sage of Synergism that’s just your way to excuse your sin - Gods doesn’t ordain sin in your life - He allows temptation but gives you the ability to resist - testing through temptation makes you stronger - giving in to all temptation because “God ordained it and I can do nothing to successfully resist it” will not get you into heaven. “Resist the Devil and he will flee from you James 4:7
@Sage of Synergism Boogers are so tasty, but I must not be tempted by Satan!! Help me Jesus!!!
We will be with the Lord someday and with all of our fellow brothers and sisters in Jesus' name. Amen
On judgment day you're going to be disappointed. A lot of people you think are Brothers and sisters in Christ will be rejected by GOD. Only a small fraction of evangelists and a large fraction of fundamental Baptists and Calvinists will find mercy in God's eye.
@@jasonsmith3202 god will be relieved to know you are ready to carry his burden for him and judge the world.
@@uncasunga1800 : God is pleased to know that his children in Christ can discern right from wrong.
He's pleased that his children can identify tares among wheat by observing the fruits tares have produced.
@@jasonsmith3202 well I do think a lot of people claiming to be right are not right, but it doesn't go by denomination. A lot of people claiming to be Calvinists have no clue what it means.
We cannot judge another's standing with God. But we sure can decide who we want to go to war with and live the Christian life with.
@@uncasunga1800 : I agree, there are more fake and lost Christians in this world than faithful and saved.
We can not judge others' standing with God does not mean we can't discern right from wrong, wheat from tares and sheep from goats.
God himself instructs his people to know people by their fruits. God also says not to be friends with fake Christians.
We also know who our enemies are ( devil and his seed).
If you know what is written in the scripture and yet you reject that, then you're a Satan's seed not God's child.
💜2 Thessalonians 2:6
Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us.
❤Psalm 56:5
All-day long they distort my words;
All their thoughts are against me for evil.
💛Proverb 30:6
Do not add to His words
Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.
💙Ephesians 5:11
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
💚 ❤Matthew 7:15-20 ~ “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. ...
💚2 Corinthians 6:14-17
Do not be
unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever?
R C helped me understand the Bible SO MUCH. His love for JESUS, his gift teaching brings me immeasurable JOY in my walk with GOD. He points the student 👨🏻🎓 👩🏻🎓 to CHRIST. He teaches about the HOLINESS of GOD. Soli Deo gloria.
@Sage of Synergism You would need to explain in detail your comment for it to make any sense. And even then, it would be a heretical explaination. There is the elect as the word of God has numerous writings on His elect. And to attempt to connect that statement to Jesus weeping over Jerusalem makes absolutely logical sense.
@Sage of Synergism space station dingbat
The Bible says "He will gather His elect from the 4 winds" His elect will call out to him day and night.
Is there any part of the bible you do not lie about in stupefied ignorance?
@@Mikael5732 do not argue logic they have none. Argue with the Bible.
@@Mikael5732 and their consciences are seared..
@Sage of Synergism He wept over them because He loved them and they refused to come to God.
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Love is a choice. One out of many.
That is why it is so passionate, irrevocable, unending. A blazing fire, a burning heat. (Song of Solomon)
When we meet Him, we will finally know from experience; for now, we are compelled to live by Faith.
God loves the wicked in order to save them, in accordance with john 3:16 and this word, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!
Heavenly Father, I humbly pray for the lost, so that by your Holy Grace and Mercy, they may come to believe, know, trust, obey and love Your Beloved Son Jesus Christ, in His Holy Name I pray, Amen.
I miss him too God bless you and God is love
Thank God I'm proud of you u are my dear God
GOD is Kind even to the Evil. the LORD GODFATHER in Christ LOVED the World and HE can not Let HIS LOVE to Suffer Mercilessly Everlastingly.Only Perish Because of not Believing.
I can't wait
I wish the Amen corner would hush while RC is speaking!
@@Booboobear-eo4es so you're a muslim
Anyone who sees no difference between christians and Islam is basically Islam.
Certainly against christianity.
Psalm 11:5 says God hates the wicked, and those who love violence. Question answered.
We give thanks to the Most High GOD for a happy new month. March is when the true new year begins. We have seen the end of 2020 and 2020 did not see our end. Let us read the Holy King James Bible more in 2021. What change in weather did you see or feel from December 31 to January 1?
Great man
Thanks for describing the terms. It is a shame there were no verses in here to support them.
Beautiful explanation!
Where was he promised a throne in heaven? Bible verse?
@Sage of Synergism Please, it would be best if you did not comment as you are void of the truth.
@Sage of Synergism space cadet
Psalms clearly identifies Judas as destined for destruction, just like you if you do not repent, pathological liar.
@Sage of Synergism
In John 17:12, Jesus called Judas the son of perdition, or destruction.
In Acts1:13-26, the eleven disciples chose another one to take the place of Judas who, they said, fell from his apostleship by transgression, "that he might go to his own place." (v. 25)
Obviously his "place" was not on a throne in heaven, but rather, in hell.
The Greek word for world is kosmos in John 12:47, and refers to the created world in general, as in John 3:16 & 17. The ones believing in Him will not perish, but will have everlasting life.
So, definite atonement applies to those BELIEVING in Jesus Christ.
"And this is the testimony; that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life." (1 John 5:11-12)
@@judylloyd7901 Yes "Kosmos" is not a people group
Can we have the full video of this? Thank you.
What does ALL mean ? What does EVERY mean? What does Unconditional mean ?
What does it mean when it says “ EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue will confess “ ?
So important to grasp
Yes. God loves everyone in the same way. Paul the Apostle wrote in Romans that God does not show favoritism. On the other hand.... God does SHOW favor towards those he calls for his greater purposes, but if we sin it's the same disconnection from holiness. Like King Saul, or David, or Solomon. Even Peter when he denied Jesus 3 times, and many of the Apostles who fled when Jesus was arrested.
Now here's the most Holy and Beautiful gift God has ever bestowed upon us ALL; FORGIVENESS through our repentance and Jesus Christ's most precious blood. The ENTIRE Bible is about our fall, our savior Jesus Christ, and our redemption THROUGH Jesus Christ.
We ALL have the same opportunity to KNOW, LOVE, and SHARE GOD with the world. So yes... God shows no favoritism; he loves us all even in our correction, punishment, and for those who have rejected him..... HE'S WAITING FOR YOU.
He WANTS to forgive you. He WANTS to give you NEW LIFE. Amen.
@@Booboobear-eo4es yep
Spiritual DNA
Think of how ridiculous a statement this mickey mouseketeer makes saying someone who lived and died in a land never hearing the gospel has the same chance as peter James and John 😄
To whom much is given, much is required
@@Booboobear-eo4es think how ignorant ALL these people are making absolutist ALL statements...
To a very limited audience.
@@Booboobear-eo4es Uh.... As Jesus said to the Pharisees, "You know not the scriptures....." Paul the Apostle wrote....
Romans 2:11 "For there is no respect of persons with God."
In just about every other Translations of the Bible the Verse says "For God does not show favoritism."
Understand this... Jesus died for EVERYONE. It's CHOICE. It's FREE WILL that makes or breaks us. We CHOOSE to be with God. That's not favoritism, THAT'S THE CHOICE MADE, EITHER GOD, OR THE WORLD. EITHER HEAVEN, OR HELL. THAT'S OUR CHOICE.
Quote: Yes. God loves everyone in the same way.
So God loves Judas, Satan, and the Antichrist in Revelation, the same
as he loved Abraham,Isaac, and Jacob? And God loves the people
burning in Hell just as much as he loves the Patriarchs?
it's hard to understand why & how some christians remain caught up in this whole calvinist thing.
don't think of it as calvin (he would not have it). it's biblical.
rc explains it so a 3 years old can understand.
when the Spirit works in the redeemed, the christian reads the holy scriptures and they come alive with such clarity & power; the holy word of God
@Sage of Synergism Who would not weep over wayward children destined for destruction.
@Sage of Synergism He wept over them BECAUSE they would not be saved.
Paul clearly wrote: The Jews did not obtain salvation by the law; but THE ELECT DID.
@@Mikael5732 well said
@@uncasunga1800 No, he wept bc THEY WERE NOT WILLING to be saved. Read that passage again.
@@Mikael5732 they werent willing, thats why he wept.
We have difficulties to understand a concept out of time which is the transcendent god. We All have at least 3 Times in our live a real chance to be saved by god.
The heathens kept Christmas as shown in Jeremiah 10:1-5 by decking the trees they cut out of the forest with gold and silver. Today people use gold and silver look alikes. By keeping Christmas, you are observing the downfall of mankind in the garden of Eden. There is only one season in the year when the heathens are merry and exchange gifts as written in Revelation 11:10. I am not truly a member of any earthly church but I do visit Sabbath churches like the Adventist and church of God. Sometimes I meet Sunday keepers and because I love them, I tell them to repent. I am a member of the body of Christ Jesus of Nazareth in heaven.
Can someone further elaborate the difference between the first two?
I was pondering the same question. After some research, it seems like the main difference between God's benevolent love and His beneficent love is that His benevolent love has to do solely with the fact that God made all people in His image and gave each living person life. His beneficent love, from what I can tell, refers specifically to God's "common grace" to people alive today - things such as health, if they are healthy, protection from disasters (what most people often call miracles), and the ability to have a family. Non-Christians can have all these things in this fallen world. Those things are evidence of God's "common" or "beneficent" love/grace (Matthew 5:45). Neither one, however, refers to that third love or grace Dr. Sproul calls "complacent," which is for those who are truly saved believers in Jesus Christ. I hope that helps!
@@cm6164 Nice one. was thinkings about that
Unfortunately, RC is wrong. John 12:32 tells us differently.
May I have the verses that explain the love of benevolence, beneficence and complacency? Thank you
Read the Bible yourself
@@uncasunga1800 What a rude response.
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I guess I’m still wondering if I can even come to Jesus if I’m not in the elect. I’ve never felt like I was in the elect, I’ve never had any Christian tell me that I was or could be in the elect. I’ve even been told directly by Christians that if I’m not elected then coming to Jesus is a complete waste of time as Jesus only brings salvation to his elected or his chosen ones. Very confusing
In John 6:44 Jesus says: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
If you have a desire to come to Jesus, that is because the Father draws you. Don't be discouraged. I would like to recommend Pastor Charles Lawson sermons (yt channel "Still Waters" or "zion4131"). God bless you!
Thank you for your honesty, when Jesus was explaining the meaning of the parable of the sower he said, “ but that on the good ground are those out of an honest and good heart, having heard the word keep it and bring forth fruit. Believing what God says is the issue,
If you desire God, you absolutely are being called by Him.
So let me get this straight; God so loved the world with a common, benevolent love that He gave His only Son ? See context matters, if God is only speaking of a general nonsaving love here then why is it the reason he sent his Son?
Dude
The first part of the verse says God Loved the World so much to send His ONLY Son to save those who belief...
Cosmos is world not a personal term
The next verse He says those who do not believed are condemned already.
How straightforward can it get?
aww that's helpful!
If God " so loved" the generic cosmos of the world, as RC said, why would God say in 1 John 2:15, "Love not the world" ? Sadly, RC was not preaching what the Lord taught. God loves every person in this world. But many will reject that love .and spend eternity in hell. Not because of God's decree. But because they willfully chose to reject Him.
Because the term "world" takes on different meanings.
In John 3:16, it addresses humanity
in 1 John 2:15, it addresses the reprobate and their fallen kingdom just like in James 4 and 2 Corinthians 10
God doesn't love every person in the world, otherwise He would save them all
God only loves His sheep, not the goats (Matthew 18:10-14, 25:31-46; John 6:35-51, 10:1-18)
He loves them because He decreed who His faithful shall be
@zanykangaroo That is absolutely the most ridiculous, unbiblical, statement I may have ever heard.
John 3:36
Jn3.16 means salvation is given to all races and sexes
Without distinction
Not without exception
All creatures receive blessings
Fame wealth is given to the ungodly
Freewill to choose their vocation in life
Good or evil
Haha
Good drugs huh
Thank you for reading your false theology into the text
Maybe you can enlighten with what is truth then!
If mine is false!
The Bible literally does say that God sent His son into the world to save everybody.
“For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe” ~
1 Timothy 4:10 KJV
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance” ~ 2 Peter 3:9 KJV
Sproul is wrong.
How can he?
Ameen Congratulations thanks
Jesus said if you want to be perfect love your enemy . So what did he really mean?
God is love, but He is also perfectly righteous and will by no means clear the guilty. He is the Judge who said ‘Vengeance is Mine’. We however are to be doers (and not judges) of His law by loving our neighbor as ourselves, so that we glorify His Name, reflect His image, adorn the Gospel, silence the devil, make our election and call sure, and shine as lights in this fallen world. And it is God working in us both to will and to do, which is a marvelous demonstration of His mercy and love.
I hope this was helpful!
Gert
You can love your enemy and God can still fry him 🤷⚡
@@GertvanHoeforganist bravo well said
Yep. Christians are supposed to bless those who persecute them. To bless, and not curse. Well, what did Christ say during His passion? "Father, forgive them, because they don't know what they're doing.." Right? And what happened in Acts when Peter pointed this scenario out to the crowd? Didn't thousands repent? That's the mystery of the gospel paradox. The 'foolishness' (by the world's standard) of the gospel is the means through which humans have eternal life. It's part of what it means to 'count it all joy' when humans 'revile and persecute.' This is why martyrs who were burnt at the stake in Britain could sing hymns of thanks. The Lord confirmed thier calling. He made them His witnesses. They received a high honor to be persecuted for Christ's sake.
"We know that He is coming again, but this time not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who wait for Him"
Lying to our enemies and being complicit with them in destroying themselves is not Love.
Telling them about truth is.
The Bible teaches in Psalm 5:5 and 11:5 that God hates the sinner.
If that's true, why did God love Jacob but hate Esau?
@@Romans8-9 Because Jacob was one of God's elect. Any sin that he committed was paid for by Christ, so God saw him as being pure. This is why God called Job perfect, for example. He was perfect only in Christ.
@@terminat1 Yes I understand that which is why your passage is too simplified. If he "hates the sinner", he hates everyone who ever lived barring Christ when its clear he doesn't hate the elect who are redeemed sinners.
@@Romans8-9 We have to compare Scripture with Scripture to come to truth, but Psalms 5:5 and 11:5 are true statements. God hates the sinner. But we have to look at every passage that relates to see what sort of sinner is in view.
@@terminat1 So then you agree that God ,"hating the sinner" based on two passages is not completely representative of his view overall. Thank you.
He left the 99 to find the lost one
According to Romans 9 Paul says God made some of the clay for salvation and some
for damnation, and the clay argues and says why did you make me this way?
God says how dare you talk back to the one that made you!
So it' apparent that God created humans and he chose them for salvation and
damnation before they were ever born.
You say that's not fair then! A lot of things aren't fair, like those men, women, and children, and pregnant mothers being drowned in a flood, and God only choosing 8 people
to save on Noahs ark.
Colossians 2:16-19 proves that the church ate clean beasts and good food, drank good drinks to stay sober, kept the holydays like feast of trumpets, day of atonement, feast of tabernacles, Passover, feast of unleavened bread, feast of weeks, observed the 12 new moons, and celebrated the seventh day Sabbaths. Let no man judge you is referring to the heathen and sinners, not the saints. The heathen and sinners are not allowed to judge our pure religion from Christ Jesus our Lord.
God so love the world...... Before the Pentecost God only love Israel but Christ came and destroy the wall of separation between Jews and Gentiles and now any one from any nations who believe in Jesus is reconciled with the Father and have eternal life.
Does God love the man who beats a woman up for 6 years and makes her cry and keeps her bound? Harasses, tortures, and mistreats her?
666 likes... well, I better give this a thumbs up.
Short answer: no.
@Sage of Synergism He wept due to their obstinate rejection of Him, which in the will of God the Father, was the means for us (Gentiles) to be grafted in to the true vine. It seems the better question would be, “why do you have such an issue with God being God?” Perhaps you’d like to give Him some advice and consultation?
@@DdD-pi8jw He wept over them BECAUSE they would not believe and be destroyed.
Surely the Psalmist wrote in 139 "Do I not hate those who hate you?"
REPENT: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Keep and do the commandments of God which includes the seventh day Sabbath, feast days and new moons. Christ Jesus of Nazareth is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
The names of yahweh, yeshua, yahshua, yahusha, yehowah, yehoshua, yahawashi, adonai, allah, elohim, etc are devilish. False christianity, roman catholicism, sunday keeping, islam, hinduism, buddhism, shintoism, judaism, animism, agnosticism, atheism, etc will be destroyed when the true Christ Jesus of Nazareth returns.
do your proper hermanutics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who said john 3 16? Jesus did who did he say it to? A Jewish rabbi of the sanhedren named Nicodemus. Why was this important because This Jewish rabbi thought that only Gods people or elect only consisted of the Israel elect. But Jesus Said no My elect extends to the whole world including the gentiles. Not to everyone who has ever lived. but if you did your homework you would know the proper context this was written in
"The world" and "whosoever" magnify the greatness of God's love in John 3:16. Salvation is possible for all IF we will repent and believe. That's a choice God allows us. God won't force anyone into Heaven or Hell. God gets all the glory for salvation and we get all the condemnation for our rejection. Choice is the greatest common grace.
No the word " believes"
World what?
It is not just whoever.
There is modifier whoever BELIEVES.
Is not the word "world" used in many different ways in the scriptures?
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15
Why would we be commanded to not love that which God loves? The word world has different jests according to the context.
Never does it mean every individual past present and future without expection. You are reading into the text if you do.
For God loved Hitler that Hitler would have everlasting life.
Replacing world and whosoever with Hitler
As an example, is utterly foolish.
Only God's elect will believe in space and time. Therefore they only will willfully choose Christ.
For salvation is of God and look here it's God's doing .
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Php 2:13
Faith is a gift of God, if it were a choice it would be a work, then we would have something to boast of.
See John 6:43-44 & Ephesians 2:1-10
You should study Confessional Lutheranism, we also are Monergists, like the Reformed, but we also believe that the reprobate resist God's good Grace.
Check out Bryan Wolfmueller, and Dr. Jordan B. Cooper, they are both Lutheran Pastors on youtube.
@@allisvanity...9161 No. Choosing one thing over another isn't work. Jesus did the work on the cross to make salvation possible. That automatically leaves no room for boasting. Salvation is by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.
If Calvanism is true then God creates people for Hell because they don't have a choice. This doesn't fit with scripture or the nature of God.
The apostles were sent to go into all the world and preach the gospel. Calling all people to repent and believe in Jesus Christ to be saved. That makes no sense if most people are predestined to Hell and can't choose Christ.
To leave choice up to man, no one would repent believe. We are by nature hostile towards God, rebellious, lovers of darkness, engaged in evil deeds and slaves of sin. Slaves of sin will never choose what is good or right because they will only do that which satisfy the carnal mind. To say that God's will to save can be thwarted then by the rebellious will man is to make man will Sovereign and not God. Do you see? There's only one Sovereign in Salvation and it is the LORD.
@@danielmann5427 That's right. Whosoever believes. Not whosoever of the elect only who believe.
For God so loved the world. Not for God so loved the elect in the world.
To make those words mean something else is imposing Calvanism on the scripture instead of taking them at face value.
There's no point in giving the gospel to the world and calling people to repent, believe and confess with their mouth the Lord Jesus when most of them don't have a choice and are predestined to Hell.
Couldn’t get past the annoying amens lol😅
To some degree? What degree?love is love.
You love your wife and children the exact same way you love your boss at work? I would hope not. Very simple concept.
Amazing how you have to twist scripture to make it fit your twisted theology. The Bible says GOD IS LOVE. If Sproul is right, then if I love unbelievers, rather than abhor them, I am sinning because I am outside of God's will.
Lies!!!
At least he is consistent in his Calvanism. He is able to say that God does not love everyone equally without flinching once. Good man. Solid minister of the Gospel. Sadly mistaken in his soteriology.
Wow dude... way off. Jesus did come to SAVE US ALL, but we have to come to Jesus in repentance in order to do that. What did Jesus say????
"It is not the righteous, but sinners I have called." Uuummm.... yeah.
yeah, rc, the greatest theologian in the last 1/2 century is way off. but you, rant, are right on. sure
You're either a child of God or a child of the devil. Nothing in between.
@@abuelb Yes. But even a child of God makes mistakes sometimes. They misquote the word sometimes. That's why it's better to read the word. It says in the word we are allowed to test what's spoken. The truth is in the word, not the lips of men. People do "get it wrong" sometimes. It's how we handle someone who shows us we need to recant or repent from a wrongful doctrine. It does happen even with the most faithful.
@Donel Jaxson How do you mean? Jesus, God in the flesh...... failed? No.... Jesus didn't fail at anything, but we did. I feel that we as Christians failed our Lord. I shouldn't have to say this but at the risk of an accusation I am including myself in that failure. In some aspect every church across humanity failed.
We decided we needed 48,000 different denominations with few members, leaving room for doubt through "interpretation" in the eyes of most Atheists. I'll give this for the Pagan False religions, whether Islam, Buddhists, Hindus; even American cults like the LGBTQ, Black Lives Matter, etc...... at least THEY are united. The church of Jesus Christ is not. That's where we failed. Pride in "interpretation", man-made traditions, and even what I call "Trickle Down Catholicism" after the supposed reformation.
We're not united as Ambassadors of Jesus Christ. We're divided. The old saying is very very true. UNITED we stand. DIVIDED we fall, and so we have in more ways than we can imagine. WE FAILED, not our Lord.
@Donel Jaxson Exactly
The whole idea that God loves the elect in a special way and that he died for the elect gives this imaginary God a wicked heart. Suppose a father had two children and he loved his son more than he did his daughter ... What could be said about the father's love? What does this say about this imaginary God? Would His love be partial or impartial? Last idea, what kind of God would send a person to hell for all of eternity for sins committed in this short life? Of course, a loving God. If you believe that I have some beach front property to sell you. I accept money through paypal. Better yet, just set me up a go fund me page.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:17-20 ESV
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion,[2] but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. 19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?" 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me like this?" 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory--
Romans 9:14-23 ESV
People are damned forever because they continue to sin, forever. The reprobate are not regenerated in Christ.
God loves HIS son Jesus, we are fortunate enough to recieve his mercy and be counted as his children through adoption, in Jesus Christ. Those outside of Christ are not his children. I dont see your logical point, since you obviously assume to know what I dont think you know.
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He assumes a moral equivalency between the Almighty Creator, and His creation. He FEELS that God owes him.
One what you just stated above is blasphemy.
2. Your analogy is a false equivalency. You assume all are God's children. They are not. You have one giant group of people that are enemies, hostile rebellious sinners deserving God's wrath and God chose to have mercy on some. God is not obligated to give mercy to anyone! But he chose to have mercy and grace not on the basis of forseen action of the sinner but according to his riches and grace.