"TICKS IN THE ASS" is back, baby P.s., I hiked the entire Appalachian Trail with an Ozark Trail backpack, and personally, I'm offended is not S+++ tier Hope y'all liked the edit ✌🏼
I've heard some Ozark Trail stuff is really underrated! I slept in an Ozark Trail tent at Burning Man and it was great. Never used any of their gear for backpacking though,
I am surprised a trash bag isn't in top tier since it has all the hallmarks you love. It is light. It has no pockets. And you can wear it as a poncho when it rains.
How dare you insult Darwin by not immediately putting his creation on THE BEST. Just for that, I will carry not one, but TWO camp chairs on my next overnighter.
I had to live in the woods for most the year last year and one of the pantry/donation centers gave me a few pairs of those socks. I legitimately love those socks, I couldn't believe they were accidentally donated! When I found out they were actually purposely delivered for the needy it floored me. Socks are seriously underrated for what they provide, and if you can't tell how grateful I am for this company by my gushing; buy these socks people.
Nooooo to trashing my Helinox chair- best extra pound I’ve ever carried! I’m almost 60 and when I hiked the JMT I loved the “ luxury” of having a chair to support my back at camp after a long day of hiking! C’mon Kyle! Everyone in my hardcore hiking group ( even the young ultra-lighters) looked enviously at my chair every night while they sat on a nice comfy rock!
Nalgene bottles: raises an important point for gear considerations. If a piece of gear can serve several purposes, then that's a plus. For example, water bladders do one thing: hold water and allow the hiker to drink it on the go. A Nalgene bottle can be used to scoop water from a stream, can mix foods, has measuring lines, hold hot water for warming a sleeping bag at night, can be used to store items, and yes, can be used to hold water. No, Nalgene bottles should not be used while driving :-). Plastic water bottles are cheap and easy to get but can't support multiple uses. I'd move the Nalgene bottles up on the list
I personally love my osprey pack. I'm a beginner and had to get some budget gear that is not ultralight. Having the ability to carry the extra weight with ease due to its sturdiness and rigidity is nice and saves my bad back. Granted as i get more experience and more play money I'll start getting some of the more expensive stuff as long as I'm not sacrificing my comfort.
osprey packs are awesome ! They're just perfect for beginning hikers with a pretty heavy base weight. When you have budget or just comfortable (= heavy) gear, you can't have a frameless backpack. I find it completely unfair to call gear "trash" just because it doesn't match our way of hiking. That's just not how you rank gear.
I love my Osprey pack too! I got it when the airlines lost my Deuter backpack when I was heading out on a 12 backpacking trip. We rushed to get me new gear, and I ended up with the osprey. I love the structure and the back is built. Even when I got my original pack back (a month later), I chose my osprey.
I've outfitted 4 new hikers so far at walmart primarily using OT gear. All of them are now hiking on their own and having wonderful adventures in the backcountry. OT gear is really solid. It's not the best or the lightest and it's cheaply made somewhere in a sweatshop, but it's not going to just outright fail you in the woods. I'm talking pack, sleeping pad, bag, canteen, tent, everything. You're going to be OK, and all it takes to get someone into this hobby is for them to go out there and do it and not die. OT gear won't kill you unless you try really hard. And you can go into a walmart and fully outfit someone for a fast food paycheck.
The Kula cloth is awesome - a great way to avoid using TP on the trail (save it for pooping, when you'll be burying stuff anyway); very well made, easy to rinse out at any water source - definitely belongs in the Awesome category. And they're beautiful, too.
@@Duckling08 I should have said 'with' any water source. It's easy to use your water bottle water to rinse it out over land, well away from a natural water source - that's usually what I do.
I think Helinox chairs depend on the trail. There is no point on the AT because there are plenty of rocks, logs, benches, shelters and picnic tables to sit on. I really appreciated my Helinox chair on the Guadalupe Ridge Trail where there are only sharp rocks and cactus to sit on.
Not to mention people who refuse to carry a chair, and knock those who do, are usually the first ones sitting in someone else’s chair at camp the first chance they get 🤣
I have the zpacks arc air backpack and fell into a creek rubbing onto a rock that made a hole at the bottom of the internal frame after 250miles of hiking the PCT this year. I lost one frame that just fell out and the other side started to fall out as well. I contacted zpacks who immediately sent me a loaner pack and had me send it in for repairs. They sent me the arc ultra while fixing my pack. I had torn the back pocket a few places and they sewed on a new mesh packer and redesigned the frame adding a center frame stay just like the arc ultra. Since I recieved my repaired pack I have had zero issues with it. Zpacks made my favorite backpack even better at no cost. They warranty their work and are great customer service making improvements to gear. Cant say enough.
I had an arc blast in 2015 doing the High Sierra trail. I also had a hole in the back bottom form from setting the pack down on granite. I sent it back and they reinforced it and sent it back to me. Love zpack. I also own the Nero. I used it on my Camino Portuguese da Costa. Worked great. I now have the HMG 3400 and had the 4400. Awesome packs! 1500 miles on my 3400 and going strong.
zpacks did nothing to help me resolve roblems i had with their pack. i they put me thru hell and did not care at all about their products. i received the worst suppprt ever. i wasted $2000 ....
Random comment on the ozark trail- I’m a pretty broke college student so don’t have money for expensive gear. I also didn’t have to wait, so I bought a cheap pack, pots/pans, utensils, and several other things there. I can upgrade over time instead of waiting that way. While none of it is fantastic, it’s definitely doable. With everything other than consumables, my base weight is right around 15lbs. My sleep setup was bought elsewhere though lol
Their headlamp is bargain heavy but indestructible and the buttons are intuitive even when half asleep. I don’t stress about losing it or if it breaks for $17. I needed three for me and my fam, so there you go. Their SS mug/pot is solid and cheap so no worries either. Sometimes inexpensive is also less stress.
There is one situation in which I would absolutely bring along a Nalgene - if I'm backpacking in freezing temps, I would fill it with very hot H2O, and throw it in my footbox to keep my feet toasty warm.
I think my HMG pack is the greatest piece of gear I’ve owned. I prefer it over the Gregory, Osprey and Outdoor Vitals packs I’ve had. My absolute favorite pack so far. It’s lightweight and super comfortable!
Also "EAGLE CREEK" backpacks. I've owned mine for a decade and it's in as good a condition as the day I bought it. And I pile so much heavy stuff into it on a weekly basis, I cannot believe it's durability! One of the best purchases for my money!
DT socks really are the best. I've been trying so hard to wear out the first pair I ever bought to trade them in. They're definitely thinner now than they were when I bought them, but no holes, no loose stitching after 15+ years. I have at least 20 pairs of DT socks in various weights and shapes and the only time I'm forced to wear something else is when I'm wearing a suit for a wedding or funeral.
Good video! I think you should revisit this again later on and add more brands like Nemo, Durston, Granite Gear, The North Face, Peak Refuel, Backpacker's Pantry, etc.
One nice thing about altras is that they have a signature footprint and you hardly need a gps, map and compass because you just need to follow all the other thru hikers wearing altras . :)
I am all in on Zpacks. The majority of my gear is from Zpacks. Duplex, 20 degree quilt, Arc Blast, bear bag, down booties, rain gear, rain mitts etc. It’s been a game changer, my base weight is about eight pounds and my pack is a joy to carry. I am well into my 60s and I am hiking bigger miles than I did thirty years ago. I only have about 800 miles on my new gear but so far so good. Getting ready to add another few hundred miles shortly. Let’s not forget not only is their gear great it’s not made in China by some kid chained to a sewing machine. Zpacks is a joy to work with.
i had the opposite experience. spent a lot of money with zpacks. if you want to spend a lot of money with a company and wish for poor quality support and products then this is the company for you!
@@conniesjourney5806 May I ask what did you purchase and what failed. I see a lot of Zpacks on the trail and a lot of Duplex tents. I have never met anyone who disliked their gear. I would say with UL gear you need to handle it a bit more gently, especially the packs. Their tents and quilts are top notch. Take care
Msr should be higher, ground hog tent stakes great. My msr lighting acent snowshoes have been amazing. Tent I wanted for winter was out of price range for first tent. Thermarest great, nenoair x-therm nsx got me to -18 F. Nalgene works alot better when pouring boiling water into it to sleep with...
When I was 71 I did the JMT and at full food, fuel and water resupply, loads were 36 and 46 pounds. I used the HMG 4400 and it was just fine. Just an add on: I've used quite a few exterior frame (Jan Sport+) and interior frame (North Face+) and frameless (GoLite+) backpacks. Jan Sport were great when carrying an extra 20-25 lbs of climbing gear. I wore them all out. I've used the 4400 Porter for 10 years and got the larger pack so it was also good for winter big volume. Got the 2400 for long day cross country ski trips so room for enough warm clothing, etc. when stopping (or emergency overnight) and then the Daybreak (original version) for day hikes. Also use the Stuff Pack as big stuff sack and for summiting or around town.
After hiking on the AT from Hughes Gap to Overmountain shelter, nothing felt better than relaxing in my Helinox Chair Zero. Kyle, you’re an “Anti-Chairite” 😂
My parents had the Thermarest that air up when you unscrew the valve. They used them when they camped on motorcycle trips. Everything had to fit in the saddlebags. I know they originally had them starting mid 1980’s through 1994ish
HMG packs come in right at 2lbs a piece and are essentially water proof. I carried mine on an AT thru and put it through the ringer. Never was the bag wetted through and the durability is top notch. No issues. I’m positive it’ll last another thru. Plus, they now how a 1p and 2p tent at $600-700
You know what else is more waterproof than a pair of rubber boots is "ECCO" shoes. I don't know if they sell hiking shoes/boots but I bought a pair of their lightweight walking shoes (that feel like slippers so didn't expect much as far as durability). Well, I got caught in a torrential downpour, wearing them and fully expected my feet/socks/shoes would be completely drenched when I got home and I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT - my feet/socks/shoes were completely DRY!!! Not a drop of water seeped through! Best walking shoes EVER!!!
Your videos are very entertaining and full of good and or controversial info. Personally I LOVE my MSR stove but you have done a ton more hiking than me. Also I love my Osprey pack! I am not familiar with a few of the brands you mentioned so now I'll check them out. Thanks man ands keep making videos!
The amount of rage I felt when he put helinox in trash, had me sent. I love this chair. Sure i get it not for backpacking but just as a freaking great camping chair, hell yes. This made me saltier than that drink mix. 😂 However you made a redeeming choice with Osprey. Over complicated trash.
I wouldn’t rate z-packs so high. Too expensive and it wears out too fast. What about Nemo, and outdoor vitals? Big Agnes? There are a lot of brands I was hoping you would include. I love Aqua quest, my Nemo Tensor is dope, black diamond makes great trekking poles…definitely need to make another video.
Cnoc .... I've had two of their products and the threading on the screw tops both leaked. It in fact cost me a night in a hotel. I didn't realise my water supply had dribbled out on the trail. My choice was head into town or continue to the next watering hole that was too far away as it was getting late.
I was only a day hiker, but luckily live in Eastern NC near 2 large military bases. Military surplus is the way to go if you want top notch gear at give-away prices. Everybody also has boxes of MREs, so trading around for your favorites is a popular pastime.
Nalgene bottles only have a place in the dead of winter because you can fill them with hot water and use it as a hot water bottle. Patagonia clothes are really good, if expensive. Love their hoodies.
I have several insulated nalgenes for both winter hiking and mountaineering. In addition to the use you cite, (which is a game changer since a liter of hot water keeps me comfortable with an insufficient bag for at least 6h) the wide mouth cannot be discounted. When you're hiking or mountaineering in sub 0F temperatures, it's not about keeping your water from freezing, it's about being able to drink water that is already partially frozen for as long as possible. You're just not going to be able to keep a smart water bottle from freezing its neck unless you carve out a little cavity there in your body. You can continue to drink a partially frozen nalgene for at least 80% of its capacity, and then you can shake the shit out of that thing and eat the ice chunks that remain.
Waymark Gear, Soto, Enlightened Equipment, UGQ, Katabatic, Nunantek, LiteAF, Hilltop Packs, Lanshan, BRS, Big Agnes, Nemo, Sea to Summit, Coleman, Stansport, and so many more. Maybe time for a round 2 and 3.
@@mtadams2009 uhhhh what Durston is designed in Canada and made in the same factory in Vietnam that MSR uses bro. They can't "make it here" affordably. Durston Gear is literally Dan and his wife. That's the whole company. Also, if you think when you're buying "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada" gear, the materials were also made there, you're gravely mistaken. We live in the 21st century and the supply chain is global. Durston is the least of the problem. If you want to stick it to China, don't shop at Walmart.
@@helpfulcommenter I am totally aware of the Durston story and I have even had an exchange with him. That said for what he is charging it should be made in North America. I will stick with Zpacks and yes I know all about Durston taping and how much more superior it is to Zpacks. I don’t shop at Walmart and do my best to purchase my goods from anywhere but China. Fortunately in backpacking there are multiple options. I told Durston when he moves his manufacturing I would certainly consider his products . They look very nice until that happens it’s a no go. Take care
Would love to see more of this in the future but maybe with more segregated categories. You could do UL focused cottage gear, the bigger brands, budget gear brands or you could even do specific categories of gear (quilt manufacturers come to mind). I know everybody loves tier lists so it’s annoying but it’s good info anyway. Side note: I recently got the Zpacks arc haul ultra and it’s been cool so far. I’ll try to remember to let you know if it falls apart but they’re using ultra 400 fabric now instead of the rip stop material they were using before.
I just watched your trail tails with Jessica Pu, and my sternum strap broke on the LT last summer like 75 miles in on day 6 right after Little Rock Pond Shelter, I fixed it with a paper clip and it lasted me all the way to Canada.
All I can say is BD Alpenglow Pro sun hoodie. That alone makes it an S-tier contender to me. I practically live in those shirts during the summer months. I do enjoy me some Osprey, though I suppose that makes more sense for me as I refuse to touch the ultralight thing with a 50ft trekking pole. The sturdiness, carry comfort and built-in organising options make life easy for me and I'll gladly lug around the extra weight for that. Then again, I don't limit the use to backpacking, which probably bumps it up a few points as well.
For me, Patagonia fits just right and the quality and sustainability make it worth the price. Have lots of years with their puffies, base layers and fleeces.
I think you should have specified that the majority of outlooks you have on gear companies are with “ultralight” in mind. MSR stoves are heavier than BRS… but they are bomb proof and BRS is not. Nalgenes are also bomb proof and useful for some situations. Hyperlite is by far one of the lightest packs that can comfortably carry a lot of weight. Most of my gear is ultralight but throw in a rack of climbing gear and now your pack needs to carry 30+ lbs. Anyway, the video was good and I appreciate you trashing Altra shoes (mainly for the price to durability ratio).
People here who have mentioned the Walmart OT and OP camping and hiking gear. I can totally agree with those two products are good for people who are just getting into camping and hiking gear. And don't want to spend a bunch of money on something that they may regret later. Because they have found out that going camping and hiking out in the middle of nowhere. Is not what they expected and just learned from their experience. It wasn't something they were really into and because those two products are not very expensive. At least they tried but also didn't pay up the you know what. For some top of the line camping and hiking gear.
HMG has turned things around with their new MID-1… I’m liking it! Mountain house is part of the jeja vu food group…looks the same coming out as when it goes it… 😂 Nice job with the stack up.
Gossamer Gear packs are equal in weight or lighter than equivalent size Hyperlite packs (2lbs or less), and they’re way more cushy and comfortable with thick padding in the back, shoulder straps, and hip belts.
Hyperlight Mt Gear is high quality, reliable and ultralight gear. While not inexpensive, it’s some of the best stuff out there. It’s a US company and small business that is worthy of support!
Dude Nalgenes are super clutch when its cold. You can use them to store things, and at night you can pour boiling water in them and toss them in your bag and they stay warm all night.
I don't know if any of my fellow lady hikers feel the same way but I was so excited to try the kula cloth and it failed miserably for me. No matter how you wash it, the first time you use it (and i've tried two different ones), it has this very bad odor that is a dealbreaker for me. I went back to using a bandana with absolutely no issues whatsoever.
I use Castile soap to wash mine out with. If it starts to smell, I’ll leave it to soak for a few hours while I’m at home. Seems to work well for me. Hopefully you have better luck next time if you give it another shot!
Took my ozark trail tent from wally woeld out to banff and jasper and my tent was the only one that didnt soak thru. That tent was awesome. For 30$ it was bargain but then others spent 200+ and their tent flooded and mine didnt. Hehe
Altra: Solid Darn Tough: Solid (Silverlights are THE BEST) Evolved: No idea - yeah, “Promising” would have been a good category. LMNT: Amazing (Yeah, I know they were the sponsor, BUT…) Gossamer Gear: Meh - no, the strap is hugely important on a trekking pole - crotch-pot earns a -2… Helinox: THE BEST - my baseweight STARTS with my Helinox! HMG: Solid (all from friends/family input - I just got one of their tarps, but have no usage to rate it by) Kula Cloth: THE BEST (from female friends/family) Mountain House: Meh at best… MSR: Solid Nalgene: Meh Osprey: Solid Ozark Trail: Trash Patagonia: Meh - yeah - absolutely massively overpriced REI: Solid Sawyer: THE BEST Thermarest: Amazing ULA: Solid ZPacks: Solid for tents, Meh for packs (I own 1 tent & 1 tarp, I know several who have had less than ideal experiences with their packs…)
I was all on board until you put REI over Patagonia. Patagonia's customer service is far superior to any other brands customer service. But then you won me back over when you put ULA in the best. Solid Packs.
Nalgene bottles are perfect for a rave! and the patagonia tech clothes are simply amazing - highly functional and super great great quality. the video is fun! Really like the idea!
Here is my take on Nalgenes, when im backpacking never but when I am cragging (rock climbing) they are amazing and nice for just having at work or school. They screem outdoorsy and are incredibly durable. I will never carry them when I am backpacking however. I think this is a much more nuanced way to look at them, and gear in general identify situations it is or isn't useful and optimal. Granted that is slightly outside the scope of this video
I had a pack so terrible once I had to learn how to sew . You ever tried to learn how to sew in the rain . It's amusing and frustrating at the same time 🤣
I agree with you on most of your rankings. Thanks for the effort. I am a big fan of the Altra, 0 drop Superior 3.5. Unfortunately, this model has been discontinued. I changed the foot bed out though. Combined with the Darn Tough mid weight and Injinji liners, it is the most comfortable set up for 15 + miles a day, even when wet. I live in CO so do a lot of backpacking here. Heading to N. Tahoe in Oct (Sierras).
I love gear. Fun video. Agree for the most part. Darn Tough is money. I have worn out numerous pairs of these socks and love them and the company so much, I have never asked for a free pair. Buying some more today. I'm a freestanding tent type guy (copper spur) but u could bump MSR up to solid. You gotta try REI outdoor Afro shorts (or something like that) they are the best ... 3 zip pockets. Now... take this to the bank... Sprayway glass/window cleaner, you can get at Wal-mart, sez "best in the world" right on the can, and it is. You will never buy anything else! Good job dude!
I haven’t watched your videos in a long time but I watched this one. The editing and visual jokes are great. I think there could have been a lot more brands included, this list was super random tbh, like the Evolved plug felt really forced. Mountain House was good for the diarrhea joke. But it would have been cooler to have more cottage brands or instead of just one water filter brand have another or two for comparison like Platy or Katadyn. This is definitely going to have to become a series.
I HIGHLY recommend "Eagle Creek" backpacks. I've been using mine and jamming it full w/heavy items for 10 yrs and there isn't a stitch out of place or a zipper that's ever failed or anything else you'd expect after so long. It's in as pristine condition as the day I bought it! It's incredible!
I get what you claim about osprey. But exos, brain removable. Only flex front pocket. 2 side pockets for water bottle. Not even hip belt pockets. Basically same as a ul pack but a sweet frame.
Maybe Dan Durston needs to send you an xmid 1 pro. I bet you will ditch that zpacks tent. Although, I agree that zpacks overall is awesome. I feel their tents were the best until Durston came out with his. Lighter and cheaper than zpacks tents. Much better design!
I've had a 💩 day and this made me smile and laugh. 😊 Great video concept! Great edit! (Looks like Luke's work) *Mountain House sucks...Pinnacle is the best, but expensive. *As a woman, I love my Kula Cloth. ❤ *I also love my zpacks arc haul ULTRA. It's light, comfortable, and the fabric seems durable...but I can see how it may break at certain seems. And it's only comfortable up to about 25ish pounds so not for everyone. You should do more of these videos...at least once a year. 🙃❤
Jee people! I backpacked all over the world, back in the days. I wore regular clothing and shoes, ate what was around at the places I was at that time and everything went just well! We didnt't thought about all this crazy expensive stuff you are wearing nowadays. We went for the adventure and wanted to do so in the cheapest way. I had a false studentcard, so I was able to go by train, or bus, for 50% off or so. Nobody, and I mean litarally no one spoke about socks, shoes, trousers, whatever. Thank ggod!!! I, we wanted to spent the money we had mostly for hiking. Ain't that what its all about?!? You don't need fancy stuff just to be fancy!
Many of these items are incredibly functional, not just “fancy”. Like darn tough socks. They changed the game for me. If my feet get wet, no blisters. If my feet get hot and sweaty, no blisters. They breathe when it’s hot and insulate when it’s cold. Once you know, you know.
I busted a pair of North Face shoes in 2 days in the White Mountains, other gear I've had from them is terrible too. I've never had issues with many other brands.
Hi, I'm a female and am not a fan of the Kula Cloth because it's just one more thing, in my opinion, that you just don't need. Call me old-time but when I'm in the woods camping, I just do the squat and drip dry thing. RE: Nalgene--I disagree with you. Nalgene bottles come in a range of sizes and do not leak. Back when I was still in the lab and had to collect samples from wells, etc. I never had one fail. I think I know where you are coming from though--you think that carrying a Nalgene for water is stupid when you go go with a smart water bottle.
I have to agree on the Kula Cloth. I don't like the idea of wiping using something that's been on the back of my pack and exposed to germs, bacteria, pollen, spores, coughing hiker germs, etc... Ideally, cleaning it, drying it, and storing it your pack would be more clean, but a lot of times that's just not practical to do on trail. Drip drying is cleaner for me.
I got the z-packs arc haul, and I’m totally indifferent about it. Perhaps it was me, but the pack did not carry very well. It did carry well for about 40 miles, then while climbing a big hill, the pack shifted and for the next 60 miles I could not get it adjusted to be comfortable. Part of me want’s to say trash, but also amazing because the pack had so many things about to that made it sound like the perfect pack on paper. But while actually using it, I think I have to give it a 6/10.
"TICKS IN THE ASS" is back, baby
P.s., I hiked the entire Appalachian Trail with an Ozark Trail backpack, and personally, I'm offended is not S+++ tier
Hope y'all liked the edit ✌🏼
And covered in stick bugs
I've heard some Ozark Trail stuff is really underrated! I slept in an Ozark Trail tent at Burning Man and it was great. Never used any of their gear for backpacking though,
Don’t call Flossy’s pecker a “tick”!
@jonathanbauman2236 don't have any Ozark Trail hiking gear, but man my coffee mug from them puts yeti to shame 😂
I am surprised a trash bag isn't in top tier since it has all the hallmarks you love. It is light. It has no pockets. And you can wear it as a poncho when it rains.
Lol I've heard him talk about keeping everything in a trash bag for waterproofing before 🤣
Team Trashbag here!
You can also make a good bed out of a trash bag and two poles
Best thing: It's cheap as hell!
Lol
My life outdoors called you Kyle hates chairs and now I call you Kyle hates chairs in my head 😂
Don’t! Now that’s in my brain 😂
Welp. Now it’s in my brain.
He’s Kyle who hates my boots for me lol
@@babiesfartingfire6007 Your username, tho. 😂
How dare you insult Darwin by not immediately putting his creation on THE BEST. Just for that, I will carry not one, but TWO camp chairs on my next overnighter.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I had to live in the woods for most the year last year and one of the pantry/donation centers gave me a few pairs of those socks.
I legitimately love those socks, I couldn't believe they were accidentally donated! When I found out they were actually purposely delivered for the needy it floored me. Socks are seriously underrated for what they provide, and if you can't tell how grateful I am for this company by my gushing; buy these socks people.
I’m sat here in my Helinox chair, wearing Altras drinking from my Nalgene.
I love them all, I’m feeling judged Kyle!
Nooooo to trashing my Helinox chair- best extra pound I’ve ever carried! I’m almost 60 and when I hiked the JMT I loved the “ luxury” of having a chair to support my back at camp after a long day of hiking! C’mon Kyle! Everyone in my hardcore hiking group ( even the young ultra-lighters) looked enviously at my chair every night while they sat on a nice comfy rock!
Nalgene bottles: raises an important point for gear considerations. If a piece of gear can serve several purposes, then that's a plus. For example, water bladders do one thing: hold water and allow the hiker to drink it on the go. A Nalgene bottle can be used to scoop water from a stream, can mix foods, has measuring lines, hold hot water for warming a sleeping bag at night, can be used to store items, and yes, can be used to hold water. No, Nalgene bottles should not be used while driving :-). Plastic water bottles are cheap and easy to get but can't support multiple uses. I'd move the Nalgene bottles up on the list
Once he said he hates Nalgene because it weighs 6oz I stopped taking this dude seriously. His body must be made of glass.
I personally love my osprey pack. I'm a beginner and had to get some budget gear that is not ultralight. Having the ability to carry the extra weight with ease due to its sturdiness and rigidity is nice and saves my bad back. Granted as i get more experience and more play money I'll start getting some of the more expensive stuff as long as I'm not sacrificing my comfort.
osprey packs are awesome ! They're just perfect for beginning hikers with a pretty heavy base weight. When you have budget or just comfortable (= heavy) gear, you can't have a frameless backpack. I find it completely unfair to call gear "trash" just because it doesn't match our way of hiking. That's just not how you rank gear.
Agree, osprey is great if you're not going light weight, for whatever reason.
I loved my osprey pack too - hiked 300 miles in Spain with it and it was great. Super comfy.
I love my Osprey pack too! I got it when the airlines lost my Deuter backpack when I was heading out on a 12 backpacking trip. We rushed to get me new gear, and I ended up with the osprey. I love the structure and the back is built. Even when I got my original pack back (a month later), I chose my osprey.
Honestly as a fairly broke hiker and fisherman Ozark Trail has great entry level gear and I swear by their river sandals.
fair enough! glad you like it
I've outfitted 4 new hikers so far at walmart primarily using OT gear. All of them are now hiking on their own and having wonderful adventures in the backcountry. OT gear is really solid. It's not the best or the lightest and it's cheaply made somewhere in a sweatshop, but it's not going to just outright fail you in the woods. I'm talking pack, sleeping pad, bag, canteen, tent, everything. You're going to be OK, and all it takes to get someone into this hobby is for them to go out there and do it and not die. OT gear won't kill you unless you try really hard. And you can go into a walmart and fully outfit someone for a fast food paycheck.
The Kula cloth is awesome - a great way to avoid using TP on the trail (save it for pooping, when you'll be burying stuff anyway); very well made, easy to rinse out at any water source - definitely belongs in the Awesome category. And they're beautiful, too.
For females. Males don’t need them.
Just curious 🤔 if it's not okay to pee near water sources, then why is it okay to rinse out a pee rag in any water source 🤔?
@@Duckling08 Who in their right mind said that it was okay to rinse-out a pee rag in a natural water source?
@@Duckling08 I should have said 'with' any water source. It's easy to use your water bottle water to rinse it out over land, well away from a natural water source - that's usually what I do.
I think Helinox chairs depend on the trail. There is no point on the AT because there are plenty of rocks, logs, benches, shelters and picnic tables to sit on. I really appreciated my Helinox chair on the Guadalupe Ridge Trail where there are only sharp rocks and cactus to sit on.
Not to mention people who refuse to carry a chair, and knock those who do, are usually the first ones sitting in someone else’s chair at camp the first chance they get 🤣
Cactus 😂
I have the zpacks arc air backpack and fell into a creek rubbing onto a rock that made a hole at the bottom of the internal frame after 250miles of hiking the PCT this year. I lost one frame that just fell out and the other side started to fall out as well. I contacted zpacks who immediately sent me a loaner pack and had me send it in for repairs. They sent me the arc ultra while fixing my pack. I had torn the back pocket a few places and they sewed on a new mesh packer and redesigned the frame adding a center frame stay just like the arc ultra. Since I recieved my repaired pack I have had zero issues with it. Zpacks made my favorite backpack even better at no cost. They warranty their work and are great customer service making improvements to gear. Cant say enough.
I had an arc blast in 2015 doing the High Sierra trail. I also had a hole in the back bottom form from setting the pack down on granite. I sent it back and they reinforced it and sent it back to me. Love zpack. I also own the Nero. I used it on my Camino Portuguese da Costa. Worked great. I now have the HMG 3400 and had the 4400. Awesome packs! 1500 miles on my 3400 and going strong.
zpacks did nothing to help me resolve roblems i had with their pack. i
they put me thru hell and did not care at all about their products. i received the worst suppprt ever. i wasted $2000 ....
Random comment on the ozark trail- I’m a pretty broke college student so don’t have money for expensive gear. I also didn’t have to wait, so I bought a cheap pack, pots/pans, utensils, and several other things there. I can upgrade over time instead of waiting that way. While none of it is fantastic, it’s definitely doable. With everything other than consumables, my base weight is right around 15lbs. My sleep setup was bought elsewhere though lol
That's the way to do it!
Their headlamp is bargain heavy but indestructible and the buttons are intuitive even when half asleep. I don’t stress about losing it or if it breaks for $17. I needed three for me and my fam, so there you go. Their SS mug/pot is solid and cheap so no worries either. Sometimes inexpensive is also less stress.
There is one situation in which I would absolutely bring along a Nalgene - if I'm backpacking in freezing temps, I would fill it with very hot H2O, and throw it in my footbox to keep my feet toasty warm.
makes sense! I should have specified that I don't backpack in the winter, being able to put hot water in the bottles is definitely good for that
Truly the only remaining use for bringing a Nalgene on a hike!
I think my HMG pack is the greatest piece of gear I’ve owned. I prefer it over the Gregory, Osprey and Outdoor Vitals packs I’ve had. My absolute favorite pack so far. It’s lightweight and super comfortable!
Also "EAGLE CREEK" backpacks. I've owned mine for a decade and it's in as good a condition as the day I bought it. And I pile so much heavy stuff into it on a weekly basis, I cannot believe it's durability! One of the best purchases for my money!
I love having all the pockets, literally do longer hikes wearing a chest rig
DT socks really are the best. I've been trying so hard to wear out the first pair I ever bought to trade them in. They're definitely thinner now than they were when I bought them, but no holes, no loose stitching after 15+ years. I have at least 20 pairs of DT socks in various weights and shapes and the only time I'm forced to wear something else is when I'm wearing a suit for a wedding or funeral.
Good video! I think you should revisit this again later on and add more brands like Nemo, Durston, Granite Gear, The North Face, Peak Refuel, Backpacker's Pantry, etc.
"EAGLE CREEK" backpacks are INCREDIBLY DURABLE/LONG LASTING! WOW, very impressive!
Kula Cloth is AMAZING! no need to use and pack out (most of) the tp.
Your mom uses a Kula!
I think the description you gave for Patagonia applies to The North Face way more.. they literally did a collab with Gucci
North face did a collab with Supreme too
Hahaha I love my osprey, so comfy on my hips. Great episode Kyle.
One nice thing about altras is that they have a signature footprint and you hardly need a gps, map and compass because you just need to follow all the other thru hikers wearing altras . :)
I am all in on Zpacks. The majority of my gear is from Zpacks. Duplex, 20 degree quilt, Arc Blast, bear bag, down booties, rain gear, rain mitts etc.
It’s been a game changer, my base weight is about eight pounds and my pack is a joy to carry. I am well into my 60s and I am hiking bigger miles than I did thirty years ago. I only have about 800 miles on my new gear but so far so good. Getting ready to add another few hundred miles shortly. Let’s not forget not only is their gear great it’s not made in China by some kid chained to a sewing machine. Zpacks is a joy to work with.
i had the opposite experience. spent a lot of money with zpacks. if you want to spend a lot of money with a company and wish for poor quality support and products then this is the company for you!
@@conniesjourney5806 May I ask what did you purchase and what failed. I see a lot of Zpacks on the trail and a lot of Duplex tents. I have never met anyone who disliked their gear. I would say with UL gear you need to handle it a bit more gently, especially the packs. Their tents and quilts are top notch. Take care
Msr should be higher, ground hog tent stakes great. My msr lighting acent snowshoes have been amazing. Tent I wanted for winter was out of price range for first tent.
Thermarest great, nenoair x-therm nsx got me to -18 F.
Nalgene works alot better when pouring boiling water into it to sleep with...
When I was 71 I did the JMT and at full food, fuel and water resupply, loads were 36 and 46 pounds. I used the HMG 4400 and it was just fine.
Just an add on: I've used quite a few exterior frame (Jan Sport+) and interior frame (North Face+) and frameless (GoLite+) backpacks. Jan Sport were great when carrying an extra 20-25 lbs of climbing gear. I wore them all out. I've used the 4400 Porter for 10 years and got the larger pack so it was also good for winter big volume. Got the 2400 for long day cross country ski trips so room for enough warm clothing, etc. when stopping (or emergency overnight) and then the Daybreak (original version) for day hikes. Also use the Stuff Pack as big stuff sack and for summiting or around town.
HMG packs are great. Have a ton of miles on mine and I love it
After hiking on the AT from Hughes Gap to Overmountain shelter, nothing felt better than relaxing in my Helinox Chair Zero. Kyle, you’re an “Anti-Chairite” 😂
ZPacks Arc Blast , original aluminum frame. Almost 8 years in and still in great shape. Most comfortable pack ever. Carries exceptionally well.
My parents had the Thermarest that air up when you unscrew the valve. They used them when they camped on motorcycle trips. Everything had to fit in the saddlebags. I know they originally had them starting mid 1980’s through 1994ish
HMG packs come in right at 2lbs a piece and are essentially water proof. I carried mine on an AT thru and put it through the ringer. Never was the bag wetted through and the durability is top notch. No issues. I’m positive it’ll last another thru. Plus, they now how a 1p and 2p tent at $600-700
You know what else is more waterproof than a pair of rubber boots is "ECCO" shoes. I don't know if they sell hiking shoes/boots but I bought a pair of their lightweight walking shoes (that feel like slippers so didn't expect much as far as durability).
Well, I got caught in a torrential downpour, wearing them and fully expected my feet/socks/shoes would be completely drenched when I got home and I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT - my feet/socks/shoes were completely DRY!!! Not a drop of water seeped through! Best walking shoes EVER!!!
Your videos are very entertaining and full of good and or controversial info. Personally I LOVE my MSR stove but you have done a ton more hiking than me. Also I love my Osprey pack! I am not familiar with a few of the brands you mentioned so now I'll check them out. Thanks man ands keep making videos!
Thank you so much! To each their own, glad the gear is working for you!
The amount of rage I felt when he put helinox in trash, had me sent. I love this chair. Sure i get it not for backpacking but just as a freaking great camping chair, hell yes. This made me saltier than that drink mix. 😂 However you made a redeeming choice with Osprey. Over complicated trash.
Over complicated and sqeaky.
I wouldn’t rate z-packs so high. Too expensive and it wears out too fast. What about Nemo, and outdoor vitals? Big Agnes? There are a lot of brands I was hoping you would include. I love Aqua quest, my Nemo Tensor is dope, black diamond makes great trekking poles…definitely need to make another video.
Round 2 with Farpointe/Senchi. Cnoc. Toaks. Nemo. Big Agnes. Nitecore. App gear co. Hilltop packs. Bonfus. Enlightened equipment. High tail designs. Palante. Waymark. Platypus. Katadyn. Katabatic. Durston. Hoka. Topo athletic. Outdoor research.
Cnoc .... I've had two of their products and the threading on the screw tops both leaked. It in fact cost me a night in a hotel. I didn't realise my water supply had dribbled out on the trail. My choice was head into town or continue to the next watering hole that was too far away as it was getting late.
I was only a day hiker, but luckily live in Eastern NC near 2 large military bases. Military surplus is the way to go if you want top notch gear at give-away prices. Everybody also has boxes of MREs, so trading around for your favorites is a popular pastime.
Nalgene bottles only have a place in the dead of winter because you can fill them with hot water and use it as a hot water bottle. Patagonia clothes are really good, if expensive. Love their hoodies.
I agree, that's a great use of ye olde Nalgenes. Keep your tootsies toasty for sure
I have several insulated nalgenes for both winter hiking and mountaineering. In addition to the use you cite, (which is a game changer since a liter of hot water keeps me comfortable with an insufficient bag for at least 6h) the wide mouth cannot be discounted. When you're hiking or mountaineering in sub 0F temperatures, it's not about keeping your water from freezing, it's about being able to drink water that is already partially frozen for as long as possible. You're just not going to be able to keep a smart water bottle from freezing its neck unless you carve out a little cavity there in your body. You can continue to drink a partially frozen nalgene for at least 80% of its capacity, and then you can shake the shit out of that thing and eat the ice chunks that remain.
Holy shit bro. You blew up big time. I remember when you were just pushing hard to hit 20K subs and now 188k?! My boyyyyyyyy what a legend 🇦🇺
Waymark Gear, Soto, Enlightened Equipment, UGQ, Katabatic, Nunantek, LiteAF, Hilltop Packs, Lanshan, BRS, Big Agnes, Nemo, Sea to Summit, Coleman, Stansport, and so many more. Maybe time for a round 2 and 3.
Durston
@@helpfulcommenter Nice gear but I will not pay that kind of money to support F China. They could make it here but chose to make it overseas.
@@mtadams2009 uhhhh what
Durston is designed in Canada and made in the same factory in Vietnam that MSR uses bro. They can't "make it here" affordably. Durston Gear is literally Dan and his wife. That's the whole company.
Also, if you think when you're buying "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada" gear, the materials were also made there, you're gravely mistaken. We live in the 21st century and the supply chain is global. Durston is the least of the problem. If you want to stick it to China, don't shop at Walmart.
@@helpfulcommenter I am totally aware of the Durston story and I have even had an exchange with him. That said for what he is charging it should be made in North America. I will stick with Zpacks and yes I know all about Durston taping and how much more superior it is to Zpacks. I don’t shop at Walmart and do my best to purchase my goods from anywhere but China. Fortunately in backpacking there are multiple options. I told Durston when he moves his manufacturing I would certainly consider his products . They look very nice until that happens it’s a no go. Take care
@@helpfulcommenter Durston Gear. Definitely "The Best" tear. I have an X-Mid 2P (Drop version) and can vouch for that rating.
Osprey in my opinion is pretty much bomb proof. Yup, a bit heavy but built to last.
Love my ULA Equipment backpack!
Would love to see more of this in the future but maybe with more segregated categories. You could do UL focused cottage gear, the bigger brands, budget gear brands or you could even do specific categories of gear (quilt manufacturers come to mind).
I know everybody loves tier lists so it’s annoying but it’s good info anyway.
Side note: I recently got the Zpacks arc haul ultra and it’s been cool so far. I’ll try to remember to let you know if it falls apart but they’re using ultra 400 fabric now instead of the rip stop material they were using before.
I just watched your trail tails with Jessica Pu, and my sternum strap broke on the LT last summer like 75 miles in on day 6 right after Little Rock Pond Shelter, I fixed it with a paper clip and it lasted me all the way to Canada.
The ozark trail lightweight package are PERFECT for things like raves, music events, a single day hike, etc
Osprey rules! Nalgene rules! Dan Becker rules!!! BOOM!
All I can say is BD Alpenglow Pro sun hoodie. That alone makes it an S-tier contender to me. I practically live in those shirts during the summer months.
I do enjoy me some Osprey, though I suppose that makes more sense for me as I refuse to touch the ultralight thing with a 50ft trekking pole. The sturdiness, carry comfort and built-in organising options make life easy for me and I'll gladly lug around the extra weight for that. Then again, I don't limit the use to backpacking, which probably bumps it up a few points as well.
Love this video, you should do more lists but separated like best sleeping bag brand, best tent brand, etc.
good idea! I had fun with this
@@KyleHatesHiking All of your work is great! Love the Dan Becker jokes too, shit is hilarious.
Those wal-mart trecking poles are actually really solid.
For me, Patagonia fits just right and the quality and sustainability make it worth the price. Have lots of years with their puffies, base layers and fleeces.
I think you should have specified that the majority of outlooks you have on gear companies are with “ultralight” in mind. MSR stoves are heavier than BRS… but they are bomb proof and BRS is not. Nalgenes are also bomb proof and useful for some situations. Hyperlite is by far one of the lightest packs that can comfortably carry a lot of weight. Most of my gear is ultralight but throw in a rack of climbing gear and now your pack needs to carry 30+ lbs. Anyway, the video was good and I appreciate you trashing Altra shoes (mainly for the price to durability ratio).
People here who have mentioned the Walmart OT and OP camping and hiking gear.
I can totally agree with those two products are good for people who are just getting into camping and hiking gear.
And don't want to spend a bunch of money on something that they may regret later.
Because they have found out that going camping and hiking out in the middle of nowhere.
Is not what they expected and just learned from their experience.
It wasn't something they were really into and because those two products are not very expensive.
At least they tried but also didn't pay up the you know what. For some top of the line camping and hiking gear.
HMG has turned things around with their new MID-1… I’m liking it! Mountain house is part of the jeja vu food group…looks the same coming out as when it goes it… 😂 Nice job with the stack up.
Gossamer Gear packs are equal in weight or lighter than equivalent size Hyperlite packs (2lbs or less), and they’re way more cushy and comfortable with thick padding in the back, shoulder straps, and hip belts.
Darn Tough sox are awesome!!! Helix camp chair; good for use around fire pit in backyard!
I own a Patagonia nano air.. It's the best light jacket I've ever had.
Hyperlight Mt Gear is high quality, reliable and ultralight gear. While not inexpensive, it’s some of the best stuff out there. It’s a US company and small business that is worthy of support!
Dude Nalgenes are super clutch when its cold. You can use them to store things, and at night you can pour boiling water in them and toss them in your bag and they stay warm all night.
I don't know if any of my fellow lady hikers feel the same way but I was so excited to try the kula cloth and it failed miserably for me. No matter how you wash it, the first time you use it (and i've tried two different ones), it has this very bad odor that is a dealbreaker for me. I went back to using a bandana with absolutely no issues whatsoever.
I use Castile soap to wash mine out with. If it starts to smell, I’ll leave it to soak for a few hours while I’m at home. Seems to work well for me. Hopefully you have better luck next time if you give it another shot!
I tried lmnt... saved the ones that sounded the grossest to me for last and they ended up being my favorite lol. chocolate salt and orange salt ftw.
Chocolate salt is the biggest sleeper. Same thing thought it was going to be horrible as a drink but was oddly satisfying.
Chocolate Salt, yes. Epic with cold water.
They are all good with cold water, but the chocolate salt; hella good
Super cheap ozark trail lightweight folding camp chairs are great.
16:58 isn’t the Zpacks dup the same price as Hyperliiiiiiites?
Took my ozark trail tent from wally woeld out to banff and jasper and my tent was the only one that didnt soak thru. That tent was awesome. For 30$ it was bargain but then others spent 200+ and their tent flooded and mine didnt. Hehe
Love the return of Experience Over Things editing
Back in full force, babyyyy 👌🏼
Two chairs, a table, and a swing ball set in my backpack 😂
Altra: Solid
Darn Tough: Solid (Silverlights are THE BEST)
Evolved: No idea - yeah, “Promising” would have been a good category.
LMNT: Amazing (Yeah, I know they were the sponsor, BUT…)
Gossamer Gear: Meh - no, the strap is hugely important on a trekking pole - crotch-pot earns a -2…
Helinox: THE BEST - my baseweight STARTS with my Helinox!
HMG: Solid (all from friends/family input - I just got one of their tarps, but have no usage to rate it by)
Kula Cloth: THE BEST (from female friends/family)
Mountain House: Meh at best…
MSR: Solid
Nalgene: Meh
Osprey: Solid
Ozark Trail: Trash
Patagonia: Meh - yeah - absolutely massively overpriced
REI: Solid
Sawyer: THE BEST
Thermarest: Amazing
ULA: Solid
ZPacks: Solid for tents, Meh for packs (I own 1 tent & 1 tarp, I know several who have had less than ideal experiences with their packs…)
I was all on board until you put REI over Patagonia. Patagonia's customer service is far superior to any other brands customer service. But then you won me back over when you put ULA in the best. Solid Packs.
Yep patagonia also does good work especially for watershed areas.
I’m trying to find info on the Bonfus Framus 58L pack. Any insight?
Nalgene bottles are perfect for a rave! and the patagonia tech clothes are simply amazing - highly functional and super great great quality. the video is fun! Really like the idea!
Here is my take on Nalgenes, when im backpacking never but when I am cragging (rock climbing) they are amazing and nice for just having at work or school. They screem outdoorsy and are incredibly durable. I will never carry them when I am backpacking however. I think this is a much more nuanced way to look at them, and gear in general identify situations it is or isn't useful and optimal. Granted that is slightly outside the scope of this video
Look I have an ozark trail tent for car camping and I love it
I had a pack so terrible once I had to learn how to sew . You ever tried to learn how to sew in the rain . It's amusing and frustrating at the same time 🤣
What about Durston? Would love to see you compare the Plex solo with the Xmid 1 pro.
I saw a video with some with a hyper light pack on Mount Everest
I agree with you on most of your rankings. Thanks for the effort. I am a big fan of the Altra, 0 drop Superior 3.5. Unfortunately, this model has been discontinued. I changed the foot bed out though. Combined with the Darn Tough mid weight and Injinji liners, it is the most comfortable set up for 15 + miles a day, even when wet. I live in CO so do a lot of backpacking here. Heading to N. Tahoe in Oct (Sierras).
Th best hoodie is Appalachia trail company
Alpaca
I love gear. Fun video. Agree for the most part. Darn Tough is money. I have worn out numerous pairs of these socks and love them and the company so much, I have never asked for a free pair. Buying some more today. I'm a freestanding tent type guy (copper spur) but u could bump MSR up to solid. You gotta try REI outdoor Afro shorts (or something like that) they are the best ... 3 zip pockets. Now... take this to the bank... Sprayway glass/window cleaner, you can get at Wal-mart, sez "best in the world" right on the can, and it is. You will never buy anything else! Good job dude!
What a freakin hilarious video! Brilliant. Well done Kyle! 😂✌️
Thanks so much for watching!
I do unfortunately own a single osprey pack BUT it’s one of their travel ones and I just took it around Europe for a month and it was sick.
I haven’t watched your videos in a long time but I watched this one. The editing and visual jokes are great. I think there could have been a lot more brands included, this list was super random tbh, like the Evolved plug felt really forced. Mountain House was good for the diarrhea joke. But it would have been cooler to have more cottage brands or instead of just one water filter brand have another or two for comparison like Platy or Katadyn. This is definitely going to have to become a series.
Thanks, glad you liked the edit! I had fun putting this one together ✌🏼
@@luke_mckay Hey Luke
@@luke_mckay Nice job
I HIGHLY recommend "Eagle Creek" backpacks. I've been using mine and jamming it full w/heavy items for 10 yrs and there isn't a stitch out of place or a zipper that's ever failed or anything else you'd expect after so long. It's in as pristine condition as the day I bought it! It's incredible!
I get what you claim about osprey. But exos, brain removable. Only flex front pocket. 2 side pockets for water bottle. Not even hip belt pockets. Basically same as a ul pack but a sweet frame.
I love my Kula cloth. Thanks for showing it love for your lady viewers like me!❤
Hot Take: If Kyle had a chair he would have finished the PCT.
Oh and MSR Snowshoes are among the best… of course Kyle Hates (winter) Hiking😂
Maybe Dan Durston needs to send you an xmid 1 pro. I bet you will ditch that zpacks tent. Although, I agree that zpacks overall is awesome. I feel their tents were the best until Durston came out with his. Lighter and cheaper than zpacks tents. Much better design!
I've had a 💩 day and this made me smile and laugh. 😊 Great video concept! Great edit! (Looks like Luke's work)
*Mountain House sucks...Pinnacle is the best, but expensive.
*As a woman, I love my Kula Cloth. ❤
*I also love my zpacks arc haul ULTRA. It's light, comfortable, and the fabric seems durable...but I can see how it may break at certain seems. And it's only comfortable up to about 25ish pounds so not for everyone.
You should do more of these videos...at least once a year. 🙃❤
Luke's work, indeed. 🫡 Glad you liked the edit, Annie! You make me smile.
@@luke_mckay I thought so! You're "my people" Luke.
Jee people! I backpacked all over the world, back in the days. I wore regular clothing and shoes, ate what was around at the places I was at that time and everything went just well! We didnt't thought about all this crazy expensive stuff you are wearing nowadays. We went for the adventure and wanted to do so in the cheapest way. I had a false studentcard, so I was able to go by train, or bus, for 50% off or so. Nobody, and I mean litarally no one spoke about socks, shoes, trousers, whatever. Thank ggod!!! I, we wanted to spent the money we had mostly for hiking. Ain't that what its all about?!? You don't need fancy stuff just to be fancy!
Many of these items are incredibly functional, not just “fancy”. Like darn tough socks. They changed the game for me. If my feet get wet, no blisters. If my feet get hot and sweaty, no blisters. They breathe when it’s hot and insulate when it’s cold. Once you know, you know.
@@meganmcdonald5229 Okay, I believe that. But I never missed it, back than, really.
I busted a pair of North Face shoes in 2 days in the White Mountains, other gear I've had from them is terrible too. I've never had issues with many other brands.
Dude osprey exos 58 is such a sick pack!
Beefree water purifier is my go to, sawyer is good but so slow!
Appreciate your sense of humor and honesty 😂
Oh man, I just ordered my first pair of Altra trail runners. I hope they are better than meh.
I have the gossamer kumo 36 and I love it
Pretty cool idea!
Defenitly do another one just like this.
Lol, osprey is one of my favorite brands, butt im also not an ultra light hiker, I'm an ultra marathon runner, and I love there running packs.
Hi, I'm a female and am not a fan of the Kula Cloth because it's just one more thing, in my opinion, that you just don't need. Call me old-time but when I'm in the woods camping, I just do the squat and drip dry thing. RE: Nalgene--I disagree with you. Nalgene bottles come in a range of sizes and do not leak. Back when I was still in the lab and had to collect samples from wells, etc. I never had one fail. I think I know where you are coming from though--you think that carrying a Nalgene for water is stupid when you go go with a smart water bottle.
I have to agree on the Kula Cloth. I don't like the idea of wiping using something that's been on the back of my pack and exposed to germs, bacteria, pollen, spores, coughing hiker germs, etc... Ideally, cleaning it, drying it, and storing it your pack would be more clean, but a lot of times that's just not practical to do on trail. Drip drying is cleaner for me.
@@DollyTheLlama You are right about the germ thing--the Kula seems like a great way to spread them around.
Have I ever done a hike? No. Do I have any desire to start hiking at any point in the future? No. But I’m still watching this channel.
This channel is killer. Look forward to your 200,000 subscriber milestone. You earned it!
Oh on the camp chairs. Sportneer's camp chair has an updated model that makes it more sturdy with a little more weight. It also only costs 40$
I got the z-packs arc haul, and I’m totally indifferent about it. Perhaps it was me, but the pack did not carry very well. It did carry well for about 40 miles, then while climbing a big hill, the pack shifted and for the next 60 miles I could not get it adjusted to be comfortable.
Part of me want’s to say trash, but also amazing because the pack had so many things about to that made it sound like the perfect pack on paper. But while actually using it, I think I have to give it a 6/10.
mostly agree MSR should be higher. good video