It took me a couple of days to think what I’m most afraid on the trail. It must be hypothermia from cold AND wet. I think I could manage any other situation. 🙏
I have spent a night in your worst fear. Went from 69deg F at 11 pm to 19deg F at 2pm with No tent and a summer sleeping bag and No sleeping pad. Luckily I had warmer extra layers I packed and toughed it out until morning. Contracted a cold when I got back, but I survived. However I would not recommend doing that. But you Can survive it. Not comfortable though.
Kudos to cousin Adam for sharing his insecurities! About the fear of being judged: one of the nice things about the hiking community is that it's so diverse, at least in terms of age and body shape and social class. It's not all fitboys and fitgirls, it's also 70-year-olds and kids and everyone in between. It's nice and laid-back!
It was refreshing to hear his cousin expressing things they struggle with. I think his cousin's concerns are valid with the judgment and insecurities. While the outdoors is more "diverse" there is a lot of judgement out there unfortunately, even if people say there isn't. You hear it with comments like "you're almost there" to a person who is a bit bigger and larger with a pack on a trail, as if they aren't aware of their location and need the "random" encouragement to keep going. Or the comment "are you out here alone" to a solo female hiker. Or the comment "you don't look like you are from around here" to a person of color, non-conforming gender appearance, female, etc. Dealing with these things takes a lot of mental energy and add to the challenges backpacking.
@@lesliew4026 I tend to find that weirdness is usually the day hikers and non-hikers. The people who are out there are clmbing their own wall, facing their own survival challenge, they don't really have the time and energy to look down on anyone. It is totlaly amchair hikers doing this.
@@lesliew4026 at what point does looking at encouragement as some kind of obstacle that takes mental energy become us eating ourselves?? i say that as an older foreign born brown person who's seen how dealing with real obstacles has over time become nitpicking innocent comments and us hurting ourselves with this mentality. this is time and place dependent and i hope we bounce back out of it cuz we're just making ourselves weaker by taking negatively a comment meant to be positive.
I always judge people when hiking. Well, I don’t actually hike. I just put on a $4,000-ish gear kit and stand at popular trail heads and yell obscenities at people sort of like a street preacher.
Been backpacking since I was in my 40's. I'm in my mid 70's now. My biggest fear at this point is having some a-hole walk into my camp while I'm solo, asleep in my tent. It did happen one time. The guy woke me up at 1am and demanded that I pack up and move my camp to somewhere else. He felt my camp was too close to his. I hadn't noticed his camp when I set mine up earlier. I told him to f off and then he brandished a revolver. Realizing he was a crazy person I didn't want to risk getting shot. I convinced him I'd leave in the morning. He left me alone after that. In the morning i looked around but never saw the guy again. I still backpack but always think about that experience. I reported it at the ranger station on my way out
As a new hiker the things I still worry about before every day trip (haven’t dared overnight yet 😝) is: Being cold, being wet, being hungry, being thirsty or get injured (twisted ankle for example). And since we really do pack our fears, I still pack too much food and water and still bring a filter and way too many clothes to cover all weather conditions 😝 (Norway does generally not have that stable weather, it changes very quickly) But when I come back with leftover water and food and clothes I did not use, at least I feel happy that I had them with me just in case 😅
I admire Adam for doing something like this so publicly. If it hadn't been for my backpacking experience as a boy scout, I could definitely see myself having a lot of those same fears and anxieties when I got back into it as an adult. I'm surprised he didn't mention wildlife, especially while you're sleeping. I think that's a big fear for a lot of people.
This was a cool format. 💪 I like the idea of "just asking" what is bothering your cousin rather than assuming (from our now fairly expert positions) that we accurately remember what gave us anxiety about being new at something.
Only 5 tabs open? 😃 Actually, my friend and I have been judged out on trail by some people (our packs are "too heavy", we're not in good enough shape to backpack, etc.) but for the most part everyone in the hiking community has been gracious and helpful. We're all in it together!
I’ve hiked and backpacked since I was 12 years old and really got my feel of it when I joined the army and was deployed to Afghanistan During the GWAT. I was back injuries and I use an external frame pack that weighs about 3lbs maybe less. It don’t make my back hurt and feels so much better. But I have got poked fun of a few times! I guess some folks are die hard against them!! Anyways! Love you vids bro
I was a truck camper/day hiker for a long tine. After like a year of research jumped into winter backpacking 😂 i work summer construction so thats my free time! Thankfully im a decently strong guy so i just deal with the weight... spent a good amount but happy with most of my gear! Have a new tent ordered, gonna try tarp camping... hopefully itll be here to test next weekend!
I am an older, experienced backpacker. In the 70's it seemed easy, fun and we didn't plan too much other than finding a town to get a pizza and a beer. Now that I'm in my 60s it seems every time I get out on a section hike the trails seem so "crowded". Indeed, now I understand why many chose to hike off season. I think the answer is to explore trails that may not be popular or familiar. Time to get out of my comfort zone and explore.
Definitely! Part of why I started getting into mountaineering & other “off trail” stuff. Still fun to spend time on the main trails every once in a while though. 🤙
20:23 If you have an opaque poncho it can help hide your body from sight while you are going. Particularly if your back is to a tree and your front is covered by a poncho.
If you don't want to wear it, use your hiking poles and a rope to set up a screen. A stick can help to make a corner in the middle. For privacy, it's just a few minutes.
the 10 minute mark hits biggest worries - Trip planning and logistics of just getting out there. Where do I park? What if there's no free sites where I wanted to camp? Where do I get water near this camp? Hiking the trails? No problem. Setting up to eat and sleep? No problem. It's the logistics of it that hang me up.
My genuine advice is to plan a trip in an area you’ve hiked before. My first overnight was on a trail I’ve hiked as a day trip multiple times. It was also at a state park with a campsite reservation system so I knew the site I scoped out was guaranteed. The more you go, the more you learn to deal with scenarios where things don’t go according to plan. The first time you go should be a low-stress trip to get some experience in.
1. Slipping on a banana peel 2. Running out of peanut butter in the middle of nowhere 3. Being cold, tired and hungry 4. Blisters 5. Other people who could steal your stuff
About gear picks: So psychologist actually say that the more options you look at, the less happy you’ll be with your pick! Just make your list of requirements and pick between two. The less time you spend looking the happier you’ll be!
When Im out by myself Im pretty good, but when I have my 6 & 8 year old kids I worry about everything. On their fist trip I barely slept every time they moved I checked on them if they woke up I asked if they were warm or needed anything. I didn't want them to be afraid for any reason.
Darwin touched on the essence of it, at the beginning. EXPERIENCE. That will always be the best teacher. Get out and hike and camp. You'll find out what works...and what doesn't. Every trip will tend to add to your confidence. Eventually, you'll be able to lose the stress, as Darwin has.
Navigation was a big one for me where I would get paranoid and nervous when I was new here in Australia. Experienced people at times would fall in to trouble in places like the blue mountains not far from Sydney. I print out paper maps from the "all trails" app and bring a compass if going remote and always carry a Garmin In Reach when i am out of signal. I started with cheaper heavier gear and had nothing but support and praise from others on the trail. We are all out there for the same reason and goal. It's a wonderful community worldwide. Get out there guys! :) just carry the essentials and start slow and small mileage. I went from day hikes to 3 and 4 nighters to traveling to the USA and completing the PCT which was an experience of a lifetime. I changed a a lot of gear yes, but at the end of the day its all about one foot after the other at your own pace and enjoying the experience and scenery regardless of gear and experience. A bonus is you learn a lot about yourself good and bad which equalizes to being net positive to your life. Go and enjoy nature and the challenge with what you have! it will be life changing. BTW long time listener first time caller lol. I have been watching you from the start and learned a tonne about gear general tips and trails! Thanks Darwin will be forever greatful and all the best. Shane.
Bringing people along is such a valuable thing. I am an avid hiker in the Norwegian mountains, but I havent done many trips on skis, so I was able to tag along with a friend who is experienced in the winter mountains. This helped a lot! ... especially because this is such a safety barrier for most people.
Lots of great info as always, Darwin. I prefer to accept the suck instead of embracing it. I don’t see myself ever embracing being wet and cold but I can accept that that that’s part of trail life and this activity that I love. Accept the suck!
My advice is: "just go do it..." My wife and I are former US Army, so "rucking around in the woods" wasn't exactly new to us - But, when we started getting serious about day-hiking (overnights will come later), I adopted a philosophy of "use inexpensive/readily accessible gear for now," then just replace/upgrade it once we better understand what works best, what should be upgraded, and what to kick to the curb. So far, it's working pretty well, and it doesn't break the bank buying a new piece of gear here and there
Great topics, this is needed for a lot of folks. No question is stupid. Cudos to your cousin for being an honest guy, bringing up the essential basic stuff people are worried about.
@@DarwinOnthetrail Indeed! And being humble about that is not only nice, but also sometimes a question of safety. I am reasonably experienced in summer hiking, but am right now preparing for and learning about winter hiking (arctic cross-country ski hiking with tent above the arctic circle - I live in Sweden). And there is so much to learn, and the stakes are suddely much higher. So no room for being tough and cool, there. Also, when preparing a two-week summer hike with my sons (20+ yo), all the same questions appear from them, as in your video. I might share it with them!
All kidding on other comments aside, I completely agree. And there can be legitimate physical concerns, such as ticks/snakes, as there are physiological concerns regarding social stigma or other phobias.
0:51 tbh I’ve only just gotten into wild camping / hiking. But I’ve slept in tents and semi camped with my parents. I have the basic skills to get going and some other neat stuff I keep picking up from RUclips. But in general I don’t worry at all. I just don’t think about it and do it. Kinda been my motto all throughout life 😂
I appreciate this topic because I used to backpack years ago but so much has changed as far as gear that I’d feel like I’d be starting all over again! Thank you!
I feared bullet resistant bears. After backpacking, my biggest fear was just other hikers being drunk or partying too loud on beautiful trails. Not life threatening but also not bad considering the silly fears I used to have.
Just backpacked the John Muir Trail in August 2023- FOR THE FIRST TIME! I am petite so I had issue finding everything. Darwin knows what he is talking about. We practiced with everything...down to my sox and underwear! Thank you!
One of my new fears is Bonking on the trail. Happened on my last trip, glad I had two other people with me. Now I have a solo trip coming up very soon, and I’m fearful about bonking again. But I’m glad it happened to me when I had others around me. It was a learning experience.
Yeah, It’s definitely happened to me more than I’d like to admit. Forgetting to drink or eat enough on a long day of hiking. It’s good if it happens though at least once so then you can be aware of it & look out for the signs
Darwin's comment gave good context, but can someone fully explain or define bonking? I've been doing weekend trips for a long time and have never heard this term.
Bonking is generally used in endurance activities when you are glucose depleted in your bloodstream and feel really crappy. And, you don’t just feel crappy physically, you feel crappy mentally. Once you get your blood sugar back up you instantly feel better.
@@joshuaroe11 Got it, that makes sense and is basically what I was thinking from Darwin's comment. Thanks for explaining it. I'm sure nearly all of us have experienced something like that once or twice.
Darwin, you are the coolest human to make us newbie’s get settled from our insecurities. You have a very special kind of calming way of getting us to understand how to navigate thru these obstacles. With all the growing fears I have of our Earth getting out of wack,, and the way the people in the big cities are not having enough safety from some of our violent unstable neighbors, you r posts are an escape for me to come up for a breath of fresh air. Thanks for the great service you have provided- you are truly blessed my brother! 🏃♀️🌿🧘🏼🙏
Great job Adam for sharing your concerns with an online community that can seem unforgiving at times. This was a great video that definitely covered a lot of issues I had when starting out and I’m guessing most of us have.
Darwin this is a great format with Adam and I think your sincere replies to his concerns are right on target. I am older and now realize the old sayings are accurate. Hike your own hike, worry about yourself and do what works for you. I still believe navigation is the number one concern for hiking ventures off the crowded day trails. You are the least judgmental and most encouraging personality in these forums. Great job as always.
excellent video Darwin. when I started getting into backpacking i was worried about making sure that I had everything that I needed. and over thinking alot of things
Darwin I've always respected your overall integrity when it comes to gear and sponsors (or the lack thereof) even when it seemed kind of overly self-pat-on-the-back-y at times (lol) - I just wanted to let you know that. You've always kept your values intact and that's really hard in todays world especially in the media space you've chosen to inhabit. Your message resonates really well here in this video with your cousin, and I think it should be said that is because you're consistent and live your values in your life and work. I hope you keep up making honest videos like this and continue to preach self-acceptance and integrity when it comes to the outdoors.
Trip planning still gets me. It's usually not just me or one person but a group so figuring out something that will be enjoyable for most stresses me out. The biggest one I still deal with is I'll call Campsite Anxiety. Will we find a good campsite? Will he be available? Do we have to worry about other people coming in and sharing it? Like you said most people are cool out there, but it can change the dynamic at camp from maybe what you were wanting too
Right on! I'd only add that, if you have the ability, go with someone experienced. That can add to your comfort level even as you're making mistakes. But if you can't, no worries! -- a few overnights here and there, and you'll be learning the ropes faster than you realize. More camping!
1. Injury (Broke my arm on Moose Mountain in NH a couple years back and had to hike off the mountain and hitchhike to my car) 2. Not being able to complete the trip 3. Weather 4. Animals (more importantly BUGS) 5. Keeping your job if its a thru-hike
Reference to those who are new to backpacking, I have never experienced this, I have always found this community will and always does help each other and never judges others. The hiking and wild camping community is an amazing group to be around. 😊
My big fear when I started backpacking in 2017 was that I might get lost, or attacked by another person or animal. After 1,000’s of miles hiking I still think about that stuff but I’ve just learned how to be smarter with 1. staying on trail and 2. using good judgment with possible animal encounters. I now have zero worry about fears about other people. Everyone is generally super supportive and friendly.
I'm new to this and hike alone. All my trips have to be loops or out and back because I have no way to get back to my vehicle. I'm think about leaving a bicycle at the end so I can ride back to my car. Also I have a job so one or two nights is a big trip for me.
Heard leaves and small sticks snapping very early one morning. The sounds didn’t go away, so whatever was not just passing through. Quietly stuck my head out of my tent and looked for the source of the noise. Camping in bear territory made me afraid. It was three deer, eating the leaves, where we had peed the night before. I guess they wanted the minerals/electrolytes in our pee.
Very, very good video. My biggest fear is heat. It is my kryptonite. I still have some fear of pooping because as I am older and my body keeps telling me various foods it suddenly won’t tolerate so sometimes I poop often and sometimes with little warning. Yes, I said this aloud here. Also, I’m a PLANNER! I need to know the terrain, distance, sun exposure, temps, water sources, etc. I’ve done ok with my maps, garmin, all trails, etc., but after your navigation video and mentioning it again now, I’m going to go ahead and get Onyx through your link. When I first started, about 8 years ago in my fifties, I bought a few things on Amazon and also used what I had for car camping. Cousin is correct that newbies and non newbies become obsessed with gear. Since then I’ve spent a fair amount dialing things in and feel good, but there is always that new gear piece that I’ve gotta have like the flex tail.
The whole video was great ! But I really liked the end part bout making mistakes I feel that is so true and and ties into many things in life ! The way you put it . Made me think of jobs !
I think my biggest concern is how to get food mailed to myself, is my home going to be safe while I’m away, finding morale support when it comes to dealing with bears and general safety/ anxiety issues. Thanks for this thread!🌿🧘🏼🙏
Re worrying about what other people think... I have been camping and backpacking for more than 40 years, but I never critique folks out in the field. If they want a suggestion or help, I offer it. But I have found that I still learn from others, get new ideas, new ways of doing something and it can come from anyone, even a newbie. I'm just glad to see folks out there learning about our beautiful public lands and helping to protect it for the future.
I hike solo a lot of the time. My worst fears: taking a really bad fall, high-water crossings, People carrying assault weapons, and them shooting at all kinds of stuff (yes, that has happened; I hiked back to my car in the dark), hypothermia from being wet in a surprise storm. All said however, I hope to spend the rest of my days backpacking into my local wilderness areas.
In regards to the gear insecurity thing, keep in mind that ultralight is still a very niche part of backpacking. Most people have no idea what Zpacks is, they just go into REI and buy whatever looks good. If you have even a 15lb or 20lb baseweight, you will likely be the "cooler lighter hiker" on the trail. I have a 12lb baseweight which is pretty big compared to most UL hikers, and I've received comments from people who were surprised when I told them I'm doing an overnight, they assumed by the size of my pack that I was just a day hiker.
No matter what our age we are all beginners when we try something new. There is always a learning curve as you master the basics and then there is a leveling out period followed by putting them into practice, the basic skills plus the plateau skills. On the plateau you are moving the skills from having to think about them to moving to muscle memory. This is when your skills become so engrained that you no longer have to think about them. They just happen.
I agree, most people on trail are the nicest, most down to earth people... except when they are not. If someone says something it shouldn't matter, but sometimes it hits a nerve. Also, to be fair you are a young, able, thin, utlra-lighting, male, aka the person they expect to be on trail. So it makes sense that you have not experienced discrimination on trail. For the rest of us, things like age, gender, weight, physical limitations, etc. mean we are more likely to experience an unpleasant encounter. Usually it's not flat out mean spirited, it's usual intended or presented as "well-meaning" comments that come from ignorance, stigma, or an unconscious bias. What I would say instead of saying no one will talk down to you on the trail, is that you will likely face the same stigma's and bias's on the trail as you do in life. So don't let it stop you from living this, or any other part of your life.
My biggest fear on the AT was that I bought the wrong gear, and I was going to get sent home with palsies. In spite of all my physical training, falls were still a thing. I could never come close to a through hike. But I did 487 miles in long sections.
Respect to Adam for his honesty. For me, moving from day hiking to long trails I'd say fears and barriers were: 1. Being judged as inexperienced - while hiking the AT, that proved to be totally unfounded, as many (arguably most) were just as inexperienced - and those who were actually experienced, were super supportive - especially the older guys who totally understood taking time to enjoy the trail over just burning up miles 2. Gear not being of the right spec - agree that gear reviews were helpful - but also realising that places like Decathlon were actually totally OK 3. Loneliness - the reality, I found trekking extremely social and a great way to meet like minded people - rarely met a person that wasn't open and supportive 4. Wild camping alone - won't lie, first few nights I thought everything was a bear (or a Dragon). But that anxiety dissipates pretty quickly and you do get used to it (and the unexplained noises). 5. People with guns- the gun culture in the US is pretty mind numbing for most from overseas, but thankfully that culture doesn't seem to have impacted the hiking community - did meet a few who were carrying, but thankfully they were the vast minority. 6. Not actually enjoying hiking but feeling committed to finishing - but loved longer hikes from the beginning and now my only concern is probably being far too addicted to it!! But also now would happily cut a trip short if it wasn't fun - nobody actually cares how far you hike!!
I always love getting out and trying to disconnect. The problem is, I can never let myself fully disconnect. I’m always thinking about what I “should” be doing at home instead of “wasting “ this time on the trail. I think about how far behind I am getting by not being at work. Walking all day long gives me a great experience to reflect. I am in my head a lot. The biggest problem I find is not having a selector switch in my brain to only think about the things that I want to think about while out in the trail. A lot of the time, I feel guilty for doing something that I feel is a pleasure choice and not a need. More of the mental health discussion, I guess, not really about the topics in this specific video.
Barrier: Ticks. You know the issue firsthand. I know a person who, after soaking clothes in Permetherin, had to have a tick removed by a surgeon. Then there is Powassan Lime disease. I've had Lime twice while working as a Letter Carrier, but I realize my fear is a bit irrational but here I am.
"Will I make it?". My first big trip was down the Grand Canyon. I was in my 40's and while in okay shape and an avid day hiker the thought of a longer hike with a few nights and a full backpack was a bid concerning. I had time so I dieted to lose some extra weight and increased my day hike ranges. Turned out fine.
As a newbie planning my 1st overnight, solo at that. My biggest fear is getting lost lol. Even tho I plan on doing a small loop, I've literally never even been on a trail. But I've watched 2 many YT videos & now the trail is calling!
Two things that completely amaze me is, how many people get caught in chimneys and how many people get lost in the woods when they leave the trail to duece. Leaving your pack at the trail not only lets people know that someone is in the woods but also gives search and rescue a starting point. I always hang a bright orange shemaugh at head level and make sure I can see it from wherever I am.
It’s sad in the US we spend our whole lives working, and are satisfied with working in a week or two of time off to enjoy life each year. Our priorities are horrible. On trip planning and gear, my dream hike would be to do the full AT in period Viking bushcraft gear just because I want to.
I am a very experienced backpacker, having done dozens of trips in the last decade or so, and same on the fear of doing that business out in the backcountry too lol-but mostly for the uncleanliness of it aspect; I hate it!I will avoid it as much as I can, trying to time it right so I don't have to go on my trip, or go as late into my trip as I can, if I must. Sometimes it's inevitable and I have to deal with it, but it is ok to be afraid of it. If my trip is 5 days or less, I can usually make it through without needing to do it until the last day (after I get home or to a bathroom), luckily. I do control how much I eat as well, to delay it.
I was a backpacker for years before joining the Army at age 22. Join the Army...you'll get over...EVERYTHING 🤣🤣🤣. You'll wipe your ass in front of a dozen strangers and not even blink.
I think a challenge for me re: gear is that I don't have the luxury of trial and error. I have the budget to buy one tent, one backpack, one sleeping pad, etc. If I make the wrong choice and that gear doesn't work for me, I still just have to use it; dropping several hundred more dollars to try different gear isn't something I can afford.
Yeah same. What helped me was trying to find reviews/opinions (RUclips, Reddit, gear review websites, blogs etc) that go into things I find especially important - eg I am a side sleeper and lack of sleep can be extra sketchy for me due to my ADHD, so I really looked for reviews from side sleepers and people who prioritise comfort over a few extra pounds. Deciding what are your "non-negotiables" and what you can compromise with are super important, and don't get sucked into thinking your gear MUST be a certain way because it's the big trend or the latest thing. I've also had some success buying second hand items - sometimes they aren't what I wanted but were cheap enough to try something out before committing, other times I got lucky and picked up something I ended up using long-term. Remember you can also sell items that aren't right for you - you won't recoup all your money, but it's something at least. I didn't have any outdoor shops near me but I bought 3 different backpacks from places with good return policies, and wore them around my house, loaded down, walking up stairs etc to decide which one was right. It did cost a bit for the returns, but for me, that was worth it to not make an even more costly mistake. I did have to budget on other items to afford that, but it was worth it for me. One big thing I had to accept was weight - you can always upgrade down the line, but the easiest way to save money is to not go super ultralight. I try to be really minimal for my clothing, cooking gear etc, found the best fairly light budget tent I could, and accepted a heavier sleep system that I can upgrade if I ever have more money in the future 😅 Good luck! I really feel you, it's so stressful knowing you have no margin for error but once I accepted my gear would be a bit heavier and a lot would definitely be considered "out of date" , I felt a lot better about making choices and accepting some of it might not be optimal :)
Adam. I'll let you in on a little secret that even in the military there is a huge fear of pooping in the field. I use hiking as instructional tool. I open always with the question; "what is their biggest fear" and without a doubt the 1&2 answers are always either pooping or getting lost. So don't let either keep you from the great outdoors as it will change your life through the confidence gained with each experience.
There are only two or three YT influencers (Darwin, your're one) that I rely on to make major gear purchases or upgrades. Bravo on Adam sharing his fears and concerns we've all had at one time or another. Now loan your cuz some of your extra camping gear to try out before he spends his cash 😉. P.S., just signed up for On X BC.
Not living near places to backpack was the biggest barrier for me. My state has few places where backpacking is permitted, and those places are pretty underwhelming in terms of terrain and landscapes. In addition, the trails are in poor shape because they are multiuse, which often means miles of muddy, waterfilled hoof prints. Planning the time off to take trips to other states with parks with backpacking trails, and setting aside the money to have a budget for such a trip, takes a concerted effort, but it's been worth it.
Hi Darwin, I'm currently hiking/camping for the first time in years, trying to get my hiker legs back so I can do thru hikes again. My body is screaming out for carbs and protein, and I wanted to ask you what are the ideal foods to meet these screams, and especially to keep my knees/cartilage strong?
"No plan survives first contact with the enemy." My biggest fear (as I got back into hiking after a two decade hiatus) was always having the right tool(s) for the job, so I did all sorts of shakedown and prep for months and months. Finally got a week off to hike the FT and my packs hip belt failed 5-6 miles from camp on the first day out. No amount of research or top gear lists can prepare you for what you'll see out there, so take it from someone whose "analysis paralysis" didn't pay off: waste no more time thinking about the trail and just get on the trail. You'll learn more in a weekend in the backcountry than you'll learn in a year on the internet.
Amen! The fact that these gear item “bests” and so subjdctive makes these videos interesting from all presenters. Opinions. Facts. And the reality we are all made differently adds to the subjectivity. Then throw in climates or regions and our gear closets grow. Lol. A Dyneema tent great on the AT or PCT may not be the best in Iceland or the high desert.
My biggest fears, concerns, barriers of backpacking (or maybe more specifically doing so in popular places or thru-hikes where lots of people are): mostly around safety... as a trans person who will occasionally need to use the bathroom or who might not want to be binded up everywhere, all the time... most of the places I have backpacked have been in the same areas where not many people are camping around trails (moreso they are locals or parked at car camp spots and just hiking around). It could also be because I don't really hike except in cold times. One place I tried a popular area for thru-hikers and it felt like there were people everywhere. I tried to pee in the bush once and I felt like I could hear people everywhere and I saw someone as I stood up. And I didn't know where the bathrooms were and how to plan stops around that. I was not a fan of feeling like anyone could stumble on me trying to pee... bears, fine (unless it is that time of the month)... but the rest eh. My partner and I were also nervous around PDA etc. Because I am more safety concerned (and more of a bushcrafter than a hiker/backbacker), I also worry about not having all the things I might need... which means my bag is always too heavy. The bag I edc with is in 3 sections that I add to each other (25lbs, 60lbs, 75-85lbs)... So I can't go as long (granted even carrying nothing, I cannot go as far as others). So it is nice when going with someone else to share the weight, but stuff I can afford is just heavier and bulkier... so yeah, I just worry about safety and get in my head so I just never try and go back to my more comfortable areas... I would love to do some long hikes, but it is a lot easier for me to just stay around the same wilderness area for weeks instead of hopping around places. If you need someone to run away to the woods with and build a basecamp and stay for months, find me lol. But thru-hiking, while I would really like to try, I am afraid.
Poop anxiety is one of my biggest challenges too. I dont have the flexibility to do the squat. So I dont know how to relax and do my business. Ive feel really insecure about hygiene and clean up. I've had issues with hemorrhoids in the past, and pooping under stress can still be an issue. I have issues with public restrooms, and even pooping when I have company at my house cuz they know Im doing it. Its pretty frustrating.... I need to learn the squat....
Good luck practising! This also reminded me of one tip I heard before: see if you can find a thin-ish tree to hug as you squat; it'll help stabilise you and should make it easier to relax
My problem with gear is I don't want to deal with always buying more. So, I use it to death! I have accumulated gear since high school, and I use it year after year because I don't want to spend more money and making decisions every year on this vs that. As far as social anxiety, I feel like hiking is the one athletic activity I finally found where I am not judged, though I know it happens. I had a very bad history with sports (bullying) before I became a regular hiker, and I feel like a finally found my niche. My biggest fear is losing the trail. I go into panic attack mode if I can't see where the trail is--I am not a navigation wizard or tech/app expert.
If you are doing short trips during spring, summer, and fall I would go cheap and light and then as you do more backpacking trips upgrade one piece of gear at a time
Great video. Always good advice to ask someone what they are thinking vs assuming you know better. Also, very cool meeting you last week at Canoecopia in Madison. I’m looking forward to picking up one of your Evolved sunhoodies but since I promised my wife I wouldn’t buy ANYTHING at the show this year I will just have to order it😊
Is it weird that one of the things i was excited about the most was taking a poop in the woods? A nice breeze up my bum and birds chirping just sounds so peaceful to me lol
My biggest fear is breaking my ankle or other injury that may occur. I always hike with someone else due to this. Always have a backup plan whether that be another companion hiker or another way to get help. Get some first aid training would be my recommendation.
I guess my first biggest fear was bullet proof boars (not bears, we don't have bears over here). Especially during sping we had to look out for wild boars with piglets - they will attack and their tusks are fierce weapons. Next thing after this was forgetting anything or having not enough (clothing, food, tools, ...) so I was packing weeks in advance and always had way too much stuff with me. After many years I became more relaxed but I still take a lot of time packing, or at least making lists in my head with all the stuff I want to take. Selecting gear and buying new gear when prepping is kind of part of the whole experience for me.
Just found your channel and this is a great video! I have yet to go on a backpacking trip and I have sooo many questions. My biggest fear is probably being in the wilderness at night - I know it's probably an irrational fear but my overactive imagination always thinks about what kinds of creatures are running around and watching me while I can't see them. I live in Oregon and on the camping trips I've been on here in dense forest, I'm always thinking about the possibility of bears, mountain lions, even sasquatch lol. Just being in a tent feels very exposed.
The best thing to do is plan an overnight backpacking trip with your gear, test out your gear, and figure out what works for you. Understand mistakes will be made. The process of learning makes you better. Then you plan a 2 night trip. Then a 4 night trip. Then a 1 week trip. Etc.
Hi guys. Genuine question: Why is buried toilet paper not considered a good solution to leave no trace? In theory, burying toilet paper with your own poo should be acceptable in areas where it can decompose. Thank you for your answers. 🙂
I believe it takes surprisingly long to decompose, and animals tend to dig it up - also people can be pretty slapdash with how deep their cat holes are. Poop will just sit there, but if toilet paper makes it's way to the surface it's going to blow around and really stand out (poop blends in so people might not even notice it or assume it's animal poop 😅)
A barrier for a lot of people is getting the wilderness permit to camp overnight. Those gov websites are very ancient as far as the layout and is not easy to navigate. A video on that would help a lot of people to step out in the back country and grow the sport, for me it’s a sport.
1) Don’t do anything potentially lethal 2) Don’t do anything that takes away from others “hiking their own hike” 3) Be the kind of person you want others to be on your hike 4) Make a plan 5) Be willing to to make changes to that plan as needed 6) leave enough unknown so it will actually be an adventure 7) Expect to be challenged and rewarded in ways you cannot know before you go
How to keep my food safe. I don't really want to carry a bear can but don't know that I can navigate throwing a rock bag over a 20' limb and what if it gets stuck. I'm reading bears are getting people's bags that have been hung. Thanks for this video.
I’ve found it to be tricky to introduce friends to backpacking because things works little bit different on the trail than in daily life. The poop-thing is a hard one because you are dealing in a totally different way than how you deal it on the trail. It’s not that easy to explain that this is how you do it and that it’s the right way to do. Another thing is weather. I light rain in normal life people don’t even goes outside. Or hygiene… In one way you can be a little bit smelly on the trail but hygiene is really important in some aspects… For example to take care of your feet. So some things work the opposite that we are use to… Things we have learned since we were children.. It not that easy to explain.
Great video, as always. There is one thing that kinda made me wince though. You said you've never had anyone critique you on trail because everyone is equal once your there, however your perspective is one from the top of the social hierarchy. Its a very standard experience for guys to be patronising to women about their own experiences in the outdoors. You know that video of the guy mansplaining to a pro golfer? Thats a perfectly normal thing when hiking and camping too (usually a little less intense)
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What are/were YOUR Biggest Fears, Concerns, or Barriers when getting into Backpacking??? Let Me Know Down Below! 👇
My biggest fear was hiking long sections without any water still my biggest fear I've done it a couple times and it sucks
By the way I'm totally ripping that sound bite at 21:00
East coast, contracting Lyme disease.
It took me a couple of days to think what I’m most afraid on the trail. It must be hypothermia from cold AND wet. I think I could manage any other situation. 🙏
I have spent a night in your worst fear. Went from 69deg F at 11 pm to 19deg F at 2pm with No tent and a summer sleeping bag and No sleeping pad. Luckily I had warmer extra layers I packed and toughed it out until morning. Contracted a cold when I got back, but I survived. However I would not recommend doing that. But you Can survive it. Not comfortable though.
Kudos to cousin Adam for sharing his insecurities! About the fear of being judged: one of the nice things about the hiking community is that it's so diverse, at least in terms of age and body shape and social class. It's not all fitboys and fitgirls, it's also 70-year-olds and kids and everyone in between. It's nice and laid-back!
It was refreshing to hear his cousin expressing things they struggle with. I think his cousin's concerns are valid with the judgment and insecurities. While the outdoors is more "diverse" there is a lot of judgement out there unfortunately, even if people say there isn't. You hear it with comments like "you're almost there" to a person who is a bit bigger and larger with a pack on a trail, as if they aren't aware of their location and need the "random" encouragement to keep going. Or the comment "are you out here alone" to a solo female hiker. Or the comment "you don't look like you are from around here" to a person of color, non-conforming gender appearance, female, etc. Dealing with these things takes a lot of mental energy and add to the challenges backpacking.
@@lesliew4026 I tend to find that weirdness is usually the day hikers and non-hikers. The people who are out there are clmbing their own wall, facing their own survival challenge, they don't really have the time and energy to look down on anyone.
It is totlaly amchair hikers doing this.
@@lesliew4026 at what point does looking at encouragement as some kind of obstacle that takes mental energy become us eating ourselves?? i say that as an older foreign born brown person who's seen how dealing with real obstacles has over time become nitpicking innocent comments and us hurting ourselves with this mentality. this is time and place dependent and i hope we bounce back out of it cuz we're just making ourselves weaker by taking negatively a comment meant to be positive.
@@pfftwhut7638 Thank you - this was the reply I was going to try to make, but you did it better.
I always judge people when hiking. Well, I don’t actually hike. I just put on a $4,000-ish gear kit and stand at popular trail heads and yell obscenities at people sort of like a street preacher.
Been backpacking since I was in my 40's. I'm in my mid 70's now. My biggest fear at this point is having some a-hole walk into my camp while I'm solo, asleep in my tent. It did happen one time. The guy woke me up at 1am and demanded that I pack up and move my camp to somewhere else. He felt my camp was too close to his. I hadn't noticed his camp when I set mine up earlier. I told him to f off and then he brandished a revolver. Realizing he was a crazy person I didn't want to risk getting shot. I convinced him I'd leave in the morning. He left me alone after that. In the morning i looked around but never saw the guy again. I still backpack but always think about that experience. I reported it at the ranger station on my way out
My biggest as well. Makes sleeping difficult.
Absolute nightmare scenario
That's insane. Only in America.
@@carl8568 yea, assholes don't exist anywhere else in the world....
@@MrTimmyGT
Never suggested that. Those are your words.
As a new hiker the things I still worry about before every day trip (haven’t dared overnight yet 😝) is: Being cold, being wet, being hungry, being thirsty or get injured (twisted ankle for example). And since we really do pack our fears, I still pack too much food and water and still bring a filter and way too many clothes to cover all weather conditions 😝 (Norway does generally not have that stable weather, it changes very quickly) But when I come back with leftover water and food and clothes I did not use, at least I feel happy that I had them with me just in case 😅
Your cousin is so lovely. Please tell him we are so grateful to him for his willingness to be vulnerable!
I admire Adam for doing something like this so publicly. If it hadn't been for my backpacking experience as a boy scout, I could definitely see myself having a lot of those same fears and anxieties when I got back into it as an adult. I'm surprised he didn't mention wildlife, especially while you're sleeping. I think that's a big fear for a lot of people.
This was a cool format. 💪 I like the idea of "just asking" what is bothering your cousin rather than assuming (from our now fairly expert positions) that we accurately remember what gave us anxiety about being new at something.
It was fun to do & give hime some legit advice to up his confidence levels. Everyone goes through the anxious learning stage
Only 5 tabs open? 😃 Actually, my friend and I have been judged out on trail by some people (our packs are "too heavy", we're not in good enough shape to backpack, etc.) but for the most part everyone in the hiking community has been gracious and helpful. We're all in it together!
I’ve hiked and backpacked since I was 12 years old and really got my feel of it when I joined the army and was deployed to Afghanistan During the GWAT. I was back injuries and I use an external frame pack that weighs about 3lbs maybe less. It don’t make my back hurt and feels so much better. But I have got poked fun of a few times! I guess some folks are die hard against them!! Anyways! Love you vids bro
I was a truck camper/day hiker for a long tine. After like a year of research jumped into winter backpacking 😂 i work summer construction so thats my free time! Thankfully im a decently strong guy so i just deal with the weight... spent a good amount but happy with most of my gear! Have a new tent ordered, gonna try tarp camping... hopefully itll be here to test next weekend!
I really relate with the social anxiety, I think it’s a bit that fear of rejection. It’s challenging but very important to face it.
I am an older, experienced backpacker. In the 70's it seemed easy, fun and we didn't plan too much other than finding a town to get a pizza and a beer. Now that I'm in my 60s it seems every time I get out on a section hike the trails seem so "crowded". Indeed, now I understand why many chose to hike off season. I think the answer is to explore trails that may not be popular or familiar. Time to get out of my comfort zone and explore.
Definitely! Part of why I started getting into mountaineering & other “off trail” stuff. Still fun to spend time on the main trails every once in a while though. 🤙
And crowded by people with little respect for nature and unable to leave their loud music, booze, and weed behind!
20:23 If you have an opaque poncho it can help hide your body from sight while you are going. Particularly if your back is to a tree and your front is covered by a poncho.
Not a bad tip!
ponchos are better than rain jackets!
If you don't want to wear it, use your hiking poles and a rope to set up a screen. A stick can help to make a corner in the middle. For privacy, it's just a few minutes.
the 10 minute mark hits biggest worries - Trip planning and logistics of just getting out there. Where do I park? What if there's no free sites where I wanted to camp? Where do I get water near this camp? Hiking the trails? No problem. Setting up to eat and sleep? No problem. It's the logistics of it that hang me up.
My genuine advice is to plan a trip in an area you’ve hiked before. My first overnight was on a trail I’ve hiked as a day trip multiple times. It was also at a state park with a campsite reservation system so I knew the site I scoped out was guaranteed.
The more you go, the more you learn to deal with scenarios where things don’t go according to plan. The first time you go should be a low-stress trip to get some experience in.
1. Slipping on a banana peel
2. Running out of peanut butter in the middle of nowhere
3. Being cold, tired and hungry
4. Blisters
5. Other people who could steal your stuff
Falling asleep and being vulnerable
About gear picks: So psychologist actually say that the more options you look at, the less happy you’ll be with your pick! Just make your list of requirements and pick between two. The less time you spend looking the happier you’ll be!
When Im out by myself Im pretty good, but when I have my 6 & 8 year old kids I worry about everything. On their fist trip I barely slept every time they moved I checked on them if they woke up I asked if they were warm or needed anything. I didn't want them to be afraid for any reason.
Darwin touched on the essence of it, at the beginning. EXPERIENCE. That will always be the best teacher. Get out and hike and camp. You'll find out what works...and what doesn't. Every trip will tend to add to your confidence. Eventually, you'll be able to lose the stress, as Darwin has.
Navigation was a big one for me where I would get paranoid and nervous when I was new here in Australia. Experienced people at times would fall in to trouble in places like the blue mountains not far from Sydney. I print out paper maps from the "all trails" app and bring a compass if going remote and always carry a Garmin In Reach when i am out of signal.
I started with cheaper heavier gear and had nothing but support and praise from others on the trail. We are all out there for the same reason and goal. It's a wonderful community worldwide.
Get out there guys! :) just carry the essentials and start slow and small mileage. I went from day hikes to 3 and 4 nighters to traveling to the USA and completing the PCT which was an experience of a lifetime.
I changed a a lot of gear yes, but at the end of the day its all about one foot after the other at your own pace and enjoying the experience and scenery regardless of gear and experience.
A bonus is you learn a lot about yourself good and bad which equalizes to being net positive to your life. Go and enjoy nature and the challenge with what you have! it will be life changing.
BTW long time listener first time caller lol. I have been watching you from the start and learned a tonne about gear general tips and trails! Thanks Darwin will be forever greatful and all the best. Shane.
Bringing people along is such a valuable thing. I am an avid hiker in the Norwegian mountains, but I havent done many trips on skis, so I was able to tag along with a friend who is experienced in the winter mountains. This helped a lot! ... especially because this is such a safety barrier for most people.
Lots of great info as always, Darwin.
I prefer to accept the suck instead of embracing it. I don’t see myself ever embracing being wet and cold but I can accept that that that’s part of trail life and this activity that I love.
Accept the suck!
My advice is: "just go do it..."
My wife and I are former US Army, so "rucking around in the woods" wasn't exactly new to us -
But, when we started getting serious about day-hiking (overnights will come later), I adopted a philosophy of "use inexpensive/readily accessible gear for now," then just replace/upgrade it once we better understand what works best, what should be upgraded, and what to kick to the curb.
So far, it's working pretty well, and it doesn't break the bank buying a new piece of gear here and there
Great topics, this is needed for a lot of folks. No question is stupid. Cudos to your cousin for being an honest guy, bringing up the essential basic stuff people are worried about.
We're all ALWAYS learning every time we hit the trail.
@@DarwinOnthetrail Indeed! And being humble about that is not only nice, but also sometimes a question of safety. I am reasonably experienced in summer hiking, but am right now preparing for and learning about winter hiking (arctic cross-country ski hiking with tent above the arctic circle - I live in Sweden). And there is so much to learn, and the stakes are suddely much higher. So no room for being tough and cool, there. Also, when preparing a two-week summer hike with my sons (20+ yo), all the same questions appear from them, as in your video. I might share it with them!
All kidding on other comments aside, I completely agree. And there can be legitimate physical concerns, such as ticks/snakes, as there are physiological concerns regarding social stigma or other phobias.
0:51 tbh I’ve only just gotten into wild camping / hiking. But I’ve slept in tents and semi camped with my parents. I have the basic skills to get going and some other neat stuff I keep picking up from RUclips. But in general I don’t worry at all. I just don’t think about it and do it. Kinda been my motto all throughout life 😂
I appreciate this topic because I used to backpack years ago but so much has changed as far as gear that I’d feel like I’d be starting all over again! Thank you!
I feared bullet resistant bears.
After backpacking, my biggest fear was just other hikers being drunk or partying too loud on beautiful trails. Not life threatening but also not bad considering the silly fears I used to have.
Those damn Bullet Resistant Bears!
I also fear bullet resistant bears !!! 😂
Just backpacked the John Muir Trail in August 2023- FOR THE FIRST TIME! I am petite so I had issue finding everything. Darwin knows what he is talking about. We practiced with everything...down to my sox and underwear! Thank you!
One of my new fears is Bonking on the trail. Happened on my last trip, glad I had two other people with me. Now I have a solo trip coming up very soon, and I’m fearful about bonking again. But I’m glad it happened to me when I had others around me. It was a learning experience.
Yeah, It’s definitely happened to me more than I’d like to admit. Forgetting to drink or eat enough on a long day of hiking. It’s good if it happens though at least once so then you can be aware of it & look out for the signs
In the uk I was only aware of another usage of the term 'bonking', ha
Darwin's comment gave good context, but can someone fully explain or define bonking? I've been doing weekend trips for a long time and have never heard this term.
Bonking is generally used in endurance activities when you are glucose depleted in your bloodstream and feel really crappy. And, you don’t just feel crappy physically, you feel crappy mentally. Once you get your blood sugar back up you instantly feel better.
@@joshuaroe11 Got it, that makes sense and is basically what I was thinking from Darwin's comment. Thanks for explaining it. I'm sure nearly all of us have experienced something like that once or twice.
Darwin, you are the coolest human to make us newbie’s get settled from our insecurities. You have a very special kind of calming way of getting us to understand how to navigate thru these obstacles. With all the growing fears I have of our Earth getting out of wack,, and the way the people in the big cities are not having enough safety from some of our violent unstable neighbors, you r posts are an escape for me to come up for a breath of fresh air. Thanks for the great service you have provided- you are truly blessed my brother! 🏃♀️🌿🧘🏼🙏
I love how articulate you are about the adventures you have been on
Great job Adam for sharing your concerns with an online community that can seem unforgiving at times. This was a great video that definitely covered a lot of issues I had when starting out and I’m guessing most of us have.
Darwin this is a great format with Adam and I think your sincere replies to his concerns are right on target. I am older and now realize the old sayings are accurate. Hike your own hike, worry about yourself and do what works for you. I still believe navigation is the number one concern for hiking ventures off the crowded day trails. You are the least judgmental and most encouraging personality in these forums. Great job as always.
excellent video Darwin. when I started getting into backpacking i was worried about making sure that I had everything that I needed. and over thinking alot of things
Darwin I've always respected your overall integrity when it comes to gear and sponsors (or the lack thereof) even when it seemed kind of overly self-pat-on-the-back-y at times (lol) - I just wanted to let you know that. You've always kept your values intact and that's really hard in todays world especially in the media space you've chosen to inhabit. Your message resonates really well here in this video with your cousin, and I think it should be said that is because you're consistent and live your values in your life and work. I hope you keep up making honest videos like this and continue to preach self-acceptance and integrity when it comes to the outdoors.
Thanks for the kind words ❤️
Trip planning still gets me. It's usually not just me or one person but a group so figuring out something that will be enjoyable for most stresses me out. The biggest one I still deal with is I'll call Campsite Anxiety. Will we find a good campsite? Will he be available? Do we have to worry about other people coming in and sharing it?
Like you said most people are cool out there, but it can change the dynamic at camp from maybe what you were wanting too
Right on! I'd only add that, if you have the ability, go with someone experienced. That can add to your comfort level even as you're making mistakes. But if you can't, no worries! -- a few overnights here and there, and you'll be learning the ropes faster than you realize. More camping!
1. Injury (Broke my arm on Moose Mountain in NH a couple years back and had to hike off the mountain and hitchhike to my car)
2. Not being able to complete the trip
3. Weather
4. Animals (more importantly BUGS)
5. Keeping your job if its a thru-hike
Reference to those who are new to backpacking, I have never experienced this, I have always found this community will and always does help each other and never judges others. The hiking and wild camping community is an amazing group to be around. 😊
A big reason for nature lovers to get into the thru- hike seen, thanks for sharing 🚴🏼♂️🏃♀️🧘🏼🌿🙏
My big fear when I started backpacking in 2017 was that I might get lost, or attacked by another person or animal. After 1,000’s of miles hiking I still think about that stuff but I’ve just learned how to be smarter with 1. staying on trail and 2. using good judgment with possible animal encounters. I now have zero worry about fears about other people. Everyone is generally super supportive and friendly.
I'm new to this and hike alone. All my trips have to be loops or out and back because I have no way to get back to my vehicle. I'm think about leaving a bicycle at the end so I can ride back to my car. Also I have a job so one or two nights is a big trip for me.
The fear of not knowing what caused that limb to snap a few feet from the tent in the middle of the night while alone. I'm way to easily jump scared.
😬 Super Scary
Heard leaves and small sticks snapping very early one morning. The sounds didn’t go away, so whatever was not just passing through. Quietly stuck my head out of my tent and looked for the source of the noise. Camping in bear territory made me afraid. It was three deer, eating the leaves, where we had peed the night before. I guess they wanted the minerals/electrolytes in our pee.
Interesting format and info. Thanks 🙂🙏
Urinade !! What a thirst quencher !!
Totally Bigfoot JK
Very, very good video. My biggest fear is heat. It is my kryptonite. I still have some fear of pooping because as I am older and my body keeps telling me various foods it suddenly won’t tolerate so sometimes I poop often and sometimes with little warning. Yes, I said this aloud here. Also, I’m a PLANNER! I need to know the terrain, distance, sun exposure, temps, water sources, etc. I’ve done ok with my maps, garmin, all trails, etc., but after your navigation video and mentioning it again now, I’m going to go ahead and get Onyx through your link.
When I first started, about 8 years ago in my fifties, I bought a few things on Amazon and also used what I had for car camping. Cousin is correct that newbies and non newbies become obsessed with gear. Since then I’ve spent a fair amount dialing things in and feel good, but there is always that new gear piece that I’ve gotta have like the flex tail.
The whole video was great ! But I really liked the end part bout making mistakes I feel that is so true and and ties into many things in life ! The way you put it . Made me think of jobs !
Thanks for this honest talk. I will start pct in 2 days, and this video helped against the usual worries 😊
I think my biggest concern is how to get food mailed to myself, is my home going to be safe while I’m away, finding morale support when it comes to dealing with bears and general safety/ anxiety issues. Thanks for this thread!🌿🧘🏼🙏
Re worrying about what other people think... I have been camping and backpacking for more than 40 years, but I never critique folks out in the field. If they want a suggestion or help, I offer it. But I have found that I still learn from others, get new ideas, new ways of doing something and it can come from anyone, even a newbie. I'm just glad to see folks out there learning about our beautiful public lands and helping to protect it for the future.
I hike solo a lot of the time. My worst fears: taking a really bad fall, high-water crossings, People carrying assault weapons, and them shooting at all kinds of stuff (yes, that has happened; I hiked back to my car in the dark), hypothermia from being wet in a surprise storm. All said however, I hope to spend the rest of my days backpacking into my local wilderness areas.
I love this honest conversation format!! 👍🏻
In regards to the gear insecurity thing, keep in mind that ultralight is still a very niche part of backpacking. Most people have no idea what Zpacks is, they just go into REI and buy whatever looks good. If you have even a 15lb or 20lb baseweight, you will likely be the "cooler lighter hiker" on the trail. I have a 12lb baseweight which is pretty big compared to most UL hikers, and I've received comments from people who were surprised when I told them I'm doing an overnight, they assumed by the size of my pack that I was just a day hiker.
No matter what our age we are all beginners when we try something new. There is always a learning curve as you master the basics and then there is a leveling out period followed by putting them into practice, the basic skills plus the plateau skills. On the plateau you are moving the skills from having to think about them to moving to muscle memory. This is when your skills become so engrained that you no longer have to think about them. They just happen.
I agree, most people on trail are the nicest, most down to earth people... except when they are not. If someone says something it shouldn't matter, but sometimes it hits a nerve.
Also, to be fair you are a young, able, thin, utlra-lighting, male, aka the person they expect to be on trail. So it makes sense that you have not experienced discrimination on trail. For the rest of us, things like age, gender, weight, physical limitations, etc. mean we are more likely to experience an unpleasant encounter. Usually it's not flat out mean spirited, it's usual intended or presented as "well-meaning" comments that come from ignorance, stigma, or an unconscious bias.
What I would say instead of saying no one will talk down to you on the trail, is that you will likely face the same stigma's and bias's on the trail as you do in life. So don't let it stop you from living this, or any other part of your life.
Right on. Trial and error informs better gear selection
That is me.. . I can so relate. I'm in the gear obsession mode trying to get the best of what I can afford and then comparing weight!
My biggest fear on the AT was that I bought the wrong gear, and I was going to get sent home with palsies. In spite of all my physical training, falls were still a thing. I could never come close to a through hike. But I did 487 miles in long sections.
Respect to Adam for his honesty.
For me, moving from day hiking to long trails I'd say fears and barriers were:
1. Being judged as inexperienced - while hiking the AT, that proved to be totally unfounded, as many (arguably most) were just as inexperienced - and those who were actually experienced, were super supportive - especially the older guys who totally understood taking time to enjoy the trail over just burning up miles
2. Gear not being of the right spec - agree that gear reviews were helpful - but also realising that places like Decathlon were actually totally OK
3. Loneliness - the reality, I found trekking extremely social and a great way to meet like minded people - rarely met a person that wasn't open and supportive
4. Wild camping alone - won't lie, first few nights I thought everything was a bear (or a Dragon). But that anxiety dissipates pretty quickly and you do get used to it (and the unexplained noises).
5. People with guns- the gun culture in the US is pretty mind numbing for most from overseas, but thankfully that culture doesn't seem to have impacted the hiking community - did meet a few who were carrying, but thankfully they were the vast minority.
6. Not actually enjoying hiking but feeling committed to finishing - but loved longer hikes from the beginning and now my only concern is probably being far too addicted to it!! But also now would happily cut a trip short if it wasn't fun - nobody actually cares how far you hike!!
I always love getting out and trying to disconnect. The problem is, I can never let myself fully disconnect. I’m always thinking about what I “should” be doing at home instead of “wasting “ this time on the trail. I think about how far behind I am getting by not being at work. Walking all day long gives me a great experience to reflect. I am in my head a lot. The biggest problem I find is not having a selector switch in my brain to only think about the things that I want to think about while out in the trail. A lot of the time, I feel guilty for doing something that I feel is a pleasure choice and not a need. More of the mental health discussion, I guess, not really about the topics in this specific video.
Barrier: Ticks. You know the issue firsthand. I know a person who, after soaking clothes in Permetherin, had to have a tick removed by a surgeon. Then there is Powassan Lime disease. I've had Lime twice while working as a Letter Carrier, but I realize my fear is a bit irrational but here I am.
"Will I make it?". My first big trip was down the Grand Canyon. I was in my 40's and while in okay shape and an avid day hiker the thought of a longer hike with a few nights and a full backpack was a bid concerning. I had time so I dieted to lose some extra weight and increased my day hike ranges. Turned out fine.
One of my favorite videos you’ve ever made.
“Biggest fear is expensive gear” cut to Darwin sitting in front of like, $12,000 worth of tents 😂
LEND YOUR COUSIN SOME EQUIPMENT BRO
As a newbie planning my 1st overnight, solo at that. My biggest fear is getting lost lol. Even tho I plan on doing a small loop, I've literally never even been on a trail. But I've watched 2 many YT videos & now the trail is calling!
Two things that completely amaze me is, how many people get caught in chimneys and how many people get lost in the woods when they leave the trail to duece. Leaving your pack at the trail not only lets people know that someone is in the woods but also gives search and rescue a starting point. I always hang a bright orange shemaugh at head level and make sure I can see it from wherever I am.
Thanks guys that was awesome. I found it very helpful.
Loved this discussion with your cousin!!! I totally relate 😊
That green mug, I work at the pottery that made it. They are everywhere!
Thank you, excellent format
It’s sad in the US we spend our whole lives working, and are satisfied with working in a week or two of time off to enjoy life each year. Our priorities are horrible.
On trip planning and gear, my dream hike would be to do the full AT in period Viking bushcraft gear just because I want to.
I am a very experienced backpacker, having done dozens of trips in the last decade or so, and same on the fear of doing that business out in the backcountry too lol-but mostly for the uncleanliness of it aspect; I hate it!I will avoid it as much as I can, trying to time it right so I don't have to go on my trip, or go as late into my trip as I can, if I must. Sometimes it's inevitable and I have to deal with it, but it is ok to be afraid of it. If my trip is 5 days or less, I can usually make it through without needing to do it until the last day (after I get home or to a bathroom), luckily. I do control how much I eat as well, to delay it.
I was a backpacker for years before joining the Army at age 22. Join the Army...you'll get over...EVERYTHING 🤣🤣🤣. You'll wipe your ass in front of a dozen strangers and not even blink.
I think a challenge for me re: gear is that I don't have the luxury of trial and error. I have the budget to buy one tent, one backpack, one sleeping pad, etc. If I make the wrong choice and that gear doesn't work for me, I still just have to use it; dropping several hundred more dollars to try different gear isn't something I can afford.
Yeah same. What helped me was trying to find reviews/opinions (RUclips, Reddit, gear review websites, blogs etc) that go into things I find especially important - eg I am a side sleeper and lack of sleep can be extra sketchy for me due to my ADHD, so I really looked for reviews from side sleepers and people who prioritise comfort over a few extra pounds.
Deciding what are your "non-negotiables" and what you can compromise with are super important, and don't get sucked into thinking your gear MUST be a certain way because it's the big trend or the latest thing.
I've also had some success buying second hand items - sometimes they aren't what I wanted but were cheap enough to try something out before committing, other times I got lucky and picked up something I ended up using long-term.
Remember you can also sell items that aren't right for you - you won't recoup all your money, but it's something at least.
I didn't have any outdoor shops near me but I bought 3 different backpacks from places with good return policies, and wore them around my house, loaded down, walking up stairs etc to decide which one was right. It did cost a bit for the returns, but for me, that was worth it to not make an even more costly mistake. I did have to budget on other items to afford that, but it was worth it for me.
One big thing I had to accept was weight - you can always upgrade down the line, but the easiest way to save money is to not go super ultralight. I try to be really minimal for my clothing, cooking gear etc, found the best fairly light budget tent I could, and accepted a heavier sleep system that I can upgrade if I ever have more money in the future 😅
Good luck! I really feel you, it's so stressful knowing you have no margin for error but once I accepted my gear would be a bit heavier and a lot would definitely be considered "out of date" , I felt a lot better about making choices and accepting some of it might not be optimal :)
Adam. I'll let you in on a little secret that even in the military there is a huge fear of pooping in the field. I use hiking as instructional tool. I open always with the question; "what is their biggest fear" and without a doubt the 1&2 answers are always either pooping or getting lost. So don't let either keep you from the great outdoors as it will change your life through the confidence gained with each experience.
There are only two or three YT influencers (Darwin, your're one) that I rely on to make major gear purchases or upgrades. Bravo on Adam sharing his fears and concerns we've all had at one time or another. Now loan your cuz some of your extra camping gear to try out before he spends his cash 😉. P.S., just signed up for On X BC.
Great video concept
Glad you enjoyed it!
Not living near places to backpack was the biggest barrier for me. My state has few places where backpacking is permitted, and those places are pretty underwhelming in terms of terrain and landscapes. In addition, the trails are in poor shape because they are multiuse, which often means miles of muddy, waterfilled hoof prints. Planning the time off to take trips to other states with parks with backpacking trails, and setting aside the money to have a budget for such a trip, takes a concerted effort, but it's been worth it.
Hi Darwin, I'm currently hiking/camping for the first time in years, trying to get my hiker legs back so I can do thru hikes again. My body is screaming out for carbs and protein, and I wanted to ask you what are the ideal foods to meet these screams, and especially to keep my knees/cartilage strong?
"No plan survives first contact with the enemy."
My biggest fear (as I got back into hiking after a two decade hiatus) was always having the right tool(s) for the job, so I did all sorts of shakedown and prep for months and months. Finally got a week off to hike the FT and my packs hip belt failed 5-6 miles from camp on the first day out.
No amount of research or top gear lists can prepare you for what you'll see out there, so take it from someone whose "analysis paralysis" didn't pay off: waste no more time thinking about the trail and just get on the trail. You'll learn more in a weekend in the backcountry than you'll learn in a year on the internet.
Great video: many thanks!
Amen! The fact that these gear item “bests” and so subjdctive makes these videos interesting from all presenters. Opinions. Facts. And the reality we are all made differently adds to the subjectivity. Then throw in climates or regions and our gear closets grow. Lol. A Dyneema tent great on the AT or PCT may not be the best in Iceland or the high desert.
My biggest fears, concerns, barriers of backpacking (or maybe more specifically doing so in popular places or thru-hikes where lots of people are): mostly around safety... as a trans person who will occasionally need to use the bathroom or who might not want to be binded up everywhere, all the time... most of the places I have backpacked have been in the same areas where not many people are camping around trails (moreso they are locals or parked at car camp spots and just hiking around). It could also be because I don't really hike except in cold times. One place I tried a popular area for thru-hikers and it felt like there were people everywhere. I tried to pee in the bush once and I felt like I could hear people everywhere and I saw someone as I stood up. And I didn't know where the bathrooms were and how to plan stops around that. I was not a fan of feeling like anyone could stumble on me trying to pee... bears, fine (unless it is that time of the month)... but the rest eh. My partner and I were also nervous around PDA etc. Because I am more safety concerned (and more of a bushcrafter than a hiker/backbacker), I also worry about not having all the things I might need... which means my bag is always too heavy. The bag I edc with is in 3 sections that I add to each other (25lbs, 60lbs, 75-85lbs)... So I can't go as long (granted even carrying nothing, I cannot go as far as others). So it is nice when going with someone else to share the weight, but stuff I can afford is just heavier and bulkier... so yeah, I just worry about safety and get in my head so I just never try and go back to my more comfortable areas... I would love to do some long hikes, but it is a lot easier for me to just stay around the same wilderness area for weeks instead of hopping around places. If you need someone to run away to the woods with and build a basecamp and stay for months, find me lol. But thru-hiking, while I would really like to try, I am afraid.
Poop anxiety is one of my biggest challenges too. I dont have the flexibility to do the squat. So I dont know how to relax and do my business. Ive feel really insecure about hygiene and clean up. I've had issues with hemorrhoids in the past, and pooping under stress can still be an issue. I have issues with public restrooms, and even pooping when I have company at my house cuz they know Im doing it. Its pretty frustrating....
I need to learn the squat....
Good luck practising! This also reminded me of one tip I heard before: see if you can find a thin-ish tree to hug as you squat; it'll help stabilise you and should make it easier to relax
Dude social judgement 100% agreed!!
My problem with gear is I don't want to deal with always buying more. So, I use it to death! I have accumulated gear since high school, and I use it year after year because I don't want to spend more money and making decisions every year on this vs that. As far as social anxiety, I feel like hiking is the one athletic activity I finally found where I am not judged, though I know it happens. I had a very bad history with sports (bullying) before I became a regular hiker, and I feel like a finally found my niche. My biggest fear is losing the trail. I go into panic attack mode if I can't see where the trail is--I am not a navigation wizard or tech/app expert.
Sometimes you don't know what you don't know until you do it!
If you are doing short trips during spring, summer, and fall I would go cheap and light and then as you do more backpacking trips upgrade one piece of gear at a time
Great video. Always good advice to ask someone what they are thinking vs assuming you know better. Also, very cool meeting you last week at Canoecopia in Madison. I’m looking forward to picking up one of your Evolved sunhoodies but since I promised my wife I wouldn’t buy ANYTHING at the show this year I will just have to order it😊
Thank you! Also, thanks for coming by to say hey in Madison!
Is it weird that one of the things i was excited about the most was taking a poop in the woods? A nice breeze up my bum and birds chirping just sounds so peaceful to me lol
Best gear? I tried using UL inflatable sleeping pads. Could not get comfortable. Could not sleep. Best pad for me is ThermaRest Pro-Lite Plus.
My biggest fear is breaking my ankle or other injury that may occur. I always hike with someone else due to this. Always have a backup plan whether that be another companion hiker or another way to get help.
Get some first aid training would be my recommendation.
I never really had to nany fears like this. My main fear is the drive to where im gonna start then im out there for months at a time and its awesome
I guess my first biggest fear was bullet proof boars (not bears, we don't have bears over here). Especially during sping we had to look out for wild boars with piglets - they will attack and their tusks are fierce weapons.
Next thing after this was forgetting anything or having not enough (clothing, food, tools, ...) so I was packing weeks in advance and always had way too much stuff with me.
After many years I became more relaxed but I still take a lot of time packing, or at least making lists in my head with all the stuff I want to take. Selecting gear and buying new gear when prepping is kind of part of the whole experience for me.
Great video Darwin.
Many thanks! 🤙
yup, excellent video!
Just found your channel and this is a great video! I have yet to go on a backpacking trip and I have sooo many questions. My biggest fear is probably being in the wilderness at night - I know it's probably an irrational fear but my overactive imagination always thinks about what kinds of creatures are running around and watching me while I can't see them. I live in Oregon and on the camping trips I've been on here in dense forest, I'm always thinking about the possibility of bears, mountain lions, even sasquatch lol. Just being in a tent feels very exposed.
The best thing to do is plan an overnight backpacking trip with your gear, test out your gear, and figure out what works for you. Understand mistakes will be made. The process of learning makes you better. Then you plan a 2 night trip. Then a 4 night trip. Then a 1 week trip. Etc.
thank you!
Hi guys. Genuine question: Why is buried toilet paper not considered a good solution to leave no trace? In theory, burying toilet paper with your own poo should be acceptable in areas where it can decompose. Thank you for your answers. 🙂
I believe it takes surprisingly long to decompose, and animals tend to dig it up - also people can be pretty slapdash with how deep their cat holes are. Poop will just sit there, but if toilet paper makes it's way to the surface it's going to blow around and really stand out (poop blends in so people might not even notice it or assume it's animal poop 😅)
Use a stick to stir the paper with the payload.
A barrier for a lot of people is getting the wilderness permit to camp overnight. Those gov websites are very ancient as far as the layout and is not easy to navigate. A video on that would help a lot of people to step out in the back country and grow the sport, for me it’s a sport.
1) Don’t do anything potentially lethal
2) Don’t do anything that takes away from others “hiking their own hike”
3) Be the kind of person you want others to be on your hike
4) Make a plan
5) Be willing to to make changes to that plan as needed
6) leave enough unknown so it will actually be an adventure
7) Expect to be challenged and rewarded in ways you cannot know before you go
My biggest issue is the ridiculous excessive permit system that exists in the majority of places in my area.
How to keep my food safe. I don't really want to carry a bear can but don't know that I can navigate throwing a rock bag over a 20' limb and what if it gets stuck. I'm reading bears are getting people's bags that have been hung.
Thanks for this video.
I’ve found it to be tricky to introduce friends to backpacking because things works little bit different on the trail than in daily life.
The poop-thing is a hard one because you are dealing in a totally different way than how you deal it on the trail. It’s not that easy to explain that this is how you do it and that it’s the right way to do.
Another thing is weather. I light rain in normal life people don’t even goes outside.
Or hygiene… In one way you can be a little bit smelly on the trail but hygiene is really important in some aspects… For example to take care of your feet.
So some things work the opposite that we are use to… Things we have learned since we were children.. It not that easy to explain.
Great video, as always. There is one thing that kinda made me wince though.
You said you've never had anyone critique you on trail because everyone is equal once your there, however your perspective is one from the top of the social hierarchy.
Its a very standard experience for guys to be patronising to women about their own experiences in the outdoors. You know that video of the guy mansplaining to a pro golfer? Thats a perfectly normal thing when hiking and camping too (usually a little less intense)