Wow. Wonderfully surgical to my soul. And as you pondered out loud about the alleyway of the town’s historic orphans… the church bells eerily began chiming… (@ 17:35). Well done video.
Hi. Just a couple of thoughts on your interesting video. Several years ago, an article was written in the New York Times about a new modern effort to make it easy (and safe) for women to leave their babies at a hospital in Rome if they are unable to keep and care for them. Within that article was a little history of abandoned babies in Italy. The NYT article is called "Updating an Old Way to Leave the Baby on the Doorstep" and is dated Feb. 27, 2007. One of the more interesting paragraphs reads: "Foundling wheels were institutionalized by a papal bull issued in the 12th century by Pope Innocent III, who was shocked by the number of dead babies found in the Tiber. By 1204, there was a wheel in operation at the Santo Spirito Hospital in Rome, next to the Vatican. A 14th-century home for abandoned children in Naples, annexed to a church, is now a museum about foundlings. Many common family names in Italy can be traced to a foundling past: Esposito (because children were sometimes “exposed” on the steps of a convent), Proietti (from the Latin proicio, to throw away) or Innocenti (as in innocent of their father’s sin). Foundling wheels spread to various parts of Europe and were used until the late 19th century. They were abolished in Italy under Mussolini in favor of measures that allowed mothers of unwanted children to give birth anonymously." Also, since you are likely to see a lot of old Latin inscriptions on buildings and around Italy, don't forget that Latin is one of the languages available to you on Google Translate. 🙂
I didn't even think to check Google Translate for Latin. And thanks for the article information. Its a fantastic read. Here is a link for everyone: www.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/world/europe/28rome.html
Not exactly. The wheel began to be abolished in Ferrara in 1867 and then eliminated in many other cities. Mussolini only completed a process already underway.
I gave him a recommendation to talk to you about. I'd love to see you do some videos on Caccamo properties for sale. There is one property right by that castle that sounds intriguing!
Thank you for sharing your yourney with us. My grandfather was Siscilian and migrated to America long ago. I am finishing up writing my book about my 10+ years teaching English in China. Then hopefully retire to Sicily. Your blog gives me hope. Yeah! Sincerely, Anna in Arkansas ❤
You are staying focused !!! I am so pleased you can now appreciated the "name game " that is so often played in your husbands family. Keep us posted and if you go back to King Peppin let me know!
That is hilarious. I will indeed. I think I may have traced my Sicilian roots back as far as I can. My northern Italian roots I can trace back to the 1500s, thanks to a relative of mine was Pope Pius the 11, in the 1930s.
Just found your channel and was surprised to see my great-grandfather's hometown not only featured in a video, but you live there! My great-grandfather was Francesco Caccamo and the family story was that he was born around 1885 in the Castello ... however according to my research, the family that owned the Castello during the 19th century was not named Caccamo, so even though one of my cousins insists that we're related to the Dukes of Caccamo, I don't know how, if we don't share the family name. His daughter, my Nana, visited Caccamo in the 1960s, during the last years when it was still inhabited, because she wanted to see where her father had been born and grown up; when she knocked on the door and the family heard her name and her story, they didn't want to let her in at first, because they thought she was going to make an inheritance claim on their property! She finally was able to convince them that she wasn't there to claim the property, and they let her in and showed her around. I'm sure we have her photos somewhere but I haven't seen them yet, and she passed away 20 years ago. But I've always wanted to visit and see!
That would be so cool. It would be awesome if you were able to verify that connection. Its quite possible that someone who works at the castle, now and museum exhibit, might be able to help you verify the information your family has passed done. My family line I always thought were Sicilian dirt farmers. And some of them were. But discover that my Sanfratello line actually some prominent houses in Caccamo, so they seem relatively well off, which was a surprise to me.
I just found out that I am touring the Dukes Palace tomorrow along with Mr. Filippo. Stay tune for that episode coming soon! Maybe you’ll just see exactly where your ancestors lived.
@@anywherewithkristen I just saw another video from a few years ago, where the person took a walking tour of Caccamo, including the Castello, and also some of the churches in the town center. She saw the ruota that you were looking for, but it isn't in the wall of the hospital, it is in the wall of one of the main churches in the center of town! The church shares a wall with what was once a convent, and the ruota was in that shared wall so that the nuns could take the babies out of the ruota on the other side of the wall. The footage is in this video, at about the 1 hour 6 minute mark: ruclips.net/video/pLu-Xllyr84/видео.html&ab_channel=BestThingstoDoinSicily-RoundTripConsulting
Maybe you both Herzogs are familiar with the "psychogenealogy" concept, discovered by Anne Ancelin Schützenberger. Her books are so intriguing! It comes out that many aspects of our lives are related to our ancestors.
@@anywherewithkristen Well, in Italy we have a handful of her books in Italian language, all very worthy. However, seems that the choice is quite smaller in English.
Ha ha! I knew there was a reason I studied Latin for years and years! I bet this was amazing! It would be near a corner and it would open kind of like a corner cabinet in a kitchen but a bit bigger as it closed it would turn to push the baby to the inside. It wouldn’t be very big either.
Would you please verify if you receive your Dual citizenship are your children (already born to you as a US citizen) automatically eligible to receive their dual citizenship?
Thanks for continuing with my dual citizenship. I will keep you posted as things evolve. With regards to minor children, I recommend you checking out my previous episode called “Am I crazy?”
While I am sure that some, especially in more labor intensive births, happened at the hospital, I misspoke when I said that. You are right. Mostly most births happened at home with a midwife.
How interesting your fact finding mission has become! ❤
For REAL
Wow. Wonderfully surgical to my soul. And as you pondered out loud about the alleyway of the town’s historic orphans… the church bells eerily began chiming… (@ 17:35). Well done video.
We can never truly know what the orphans went through, how they felt, how those giving up their children felt, we can only speculate and remember.
I noticed that too :) So beautiful!
Absolutely! It has opened up a whole new world for me. I am blown away by it. Filippo and i have been talking daily.
That is awesome. Tell Filippo I said hi!
@kristenandscott ok
Hi. Just a couple of thoughts on your interesting video. Several years ago, an article was written in the New York Times about a new modern effort to make it easy (and safe) for women to leave their babies at a hospital in Rome if they are unable to keep and care for them. Within that article was a little history of abandoned babies in Italy. The NYT article is called "Updating an Old Way to Leave the Baby on the Doorstep" and is dated Feb. 27, 2007. One of the more interesting paragraphs reads:
"Foundling wheels were institutionalized by a papal bull issued in the 12th century by Pope Innocent III, who was shocked by the number of dead babies found in the Tiber. By 1204, there was a wheel in operation at the Santo Spirito Hospital in Rome, next to the Vatican. A 14th-century home for abandoned children in Naples, annexed to a church, is now a museum about foundlings. Many common family names in Italy can be traced to a foundling past: Esposito (because children were sometimes “exposed” on the steps of a convent), Proietti (from the Latin proicio, to throw away) or Innocenti (as in innocent of their father’s sin). Foundling wheels spread to various parts of Europe and were used until the late 19th century. They were abolished in Italy under Mussolini in favor of measures that allowed mothers of unwanted children to give birth anonymously."
Also, since you are likely to see a lot of old Latin inscriptions on buildings and around Italy, don't forget that Latin is one of the languages available to you on Google Translate. 🙂
I didn't even think to check Google Translate for Latin. And thanks for the article information. Its a fantastic read. Here is a link for everyone: www.nytimes.com/2007/02/28/world/europe/28rome.html
This is so interesting. I named my oldest daughter Marquette "Innocent" C.F. the word in Italian means Harmless.
@@anywherewithkristenthis is so interesting.
Not exactly. The wheel began to be abolished in Ferrara in 1867 and then eliminated in many other cities. Mussolini only completed a process already underway.
I gave him a recommendation to talk to you about. I'd love to see you do some videos on Caccamo properties for sale. There is one property right by that castle that sounds intriguing!
Property hunting in Caccamo. I will talk to Fillipo about it.
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Thanks for the love!
Thank you for sharing your yourney with us. My grandfather was Siscilian and migrated to America long ago. I am finishing up writing my book about my 10+ years teaching English in China. Then hopefully retire to Sicily. Your blog gives me hope. Yeah! Sincerely, Anna in Arkansas ❤
You taught English ten years in China??? That is awesome! Was it mission related? Do it! Retiring in Italy would be awesome!
You are staying focused !!!
I am so pleased you can now appreciated the "name game " that is so often played in your husbands family.
Keep us posted and if you go back to King Peppin let me know!
That is hilarious. I will indeed. I think I may have traced my Sicilian roots back as far as I can. My northern Italian roots I can trace back to the 1500s, thanks to a relative of mine was Pope Pius the 11, in the 1930s.
I love this video, you made a great job!
Thank you. It truly was amazing to discover more of my family's history. The Latin was over my head, so I was glad to have Filipo along!
Just found your channel and was surprised to see my great-grandfather's hometown not only featured in a video, but you live there! My great-grandfather was Francesco Caccamo and the family story was that he was born around 1885 in the Castello ... however according to my research, the family that owned the Castello during the 19th century was not named Caccamo, so even though one of my cousins insists that we're related to the Dukes of Caccamo, I don't know how, if we don't share the family name.
His daughter, my Nana, visited Caccamo in the 1960s, during the last years when it was still inhabited, because she wanted to see where her father had been born and grown up; when she knocked on the door and the family heard her name and her story, they didn't want to let her in at first, because they thought she was going to make an inheritance claim on their property! She finally was able to convince them that she wasn't there to claim the property, and they let her in and showed her around. I'm sure we have her photos somewhere but I haven't seen them yet, and she passed away 20 years ago. But I've always wanted to visit and see!
That would be so cool. It would be awesome if you were able to verify that connection. Its quite possible that someone who works at the castle, now and museum exhibit, might be able to help you verify the information your family has passed done.
My family line I always thought were Sicilian dirt farmers. And some of them were. But discover that my Sanfratello line actually some prominent houses in Caccamo, so they seem relatively well off, which was a surprise to me.
I just found out that I am touring the Dukes Palace tomorrow along with Mr. Filippo. Stay tune for that episode coming soon! Maybe you’ll just see exactly where your ancestors lived.
@@anywherewithkristen I just saw another video from a few years ago, where the person took a walking tour of Caccamo, including the Castello, and also some of the churches in the town center. She saw the ruota that you were looking for, but it isn't in the wall of the hospital, it is in the wall of one of the main churches in the center of town! The church shares a wall with what was once a convent, and the ruota was in that shared wall so that the nuns could take the babies out of the ruota on the other side of the wall. The footage is in this video, at about the 1 hour 6 minute mark: ruclips.net/video/pLu-Xllyr84/видео.html&ab_channel=BestThingstoDoinSicily-RoundTripConsulting
How lovely. Just a heads up, c followed by an i is pronounced Chee. Civico (Cheeveeco)
Thanks!
Maybe you both Herzogs are familiar with the "psychogenealogy" concept, discovered by Anne Ancelin Schützenberger. Her books are so intriguing! It comes out that many aspects of our lives are related to our ancestors.
Thatn sounds like a fascinating read. Do you have a book you would recommend starting with?
@@anywherewithkristen Well, in Italy we have a handful of her books in Italian language, all very worthy. However, seems that the choice is quite smaller in English.
I will Google it to see what I can find!
Ha ha! I knew there was a reason I studied Latin for years and years! I bet this was amazing! It would be near a corner and it would open kind of like a corner cabinet in a kitchen but a bit bigger as it closed it would turn to push the baby to the inside. It wouldn’t be very big either.
It really has the essence of a Lazy Susan
At least that is what I picture when I visualize it.
Would you please verify if you receive your Dual citizenship are your children (already born to you as a US citizen) automatically eligible to receive their dual citizenship?
Thanks for continuing with my dual citizenship. I will keep you posted as things evolve. With regards to minor children, I recommend you checking out my previous episode called “Am I crazy?”
Thank you
I’m surprised to learn children were born in a hospital and not at home with a midwife.
While I am sure that some, especially in more labor intensive births, happened at the hospital, I misspoke when I said that. You are right. Mostly most births happened at home with a midwife.