As someone looking at getting back into playing 40K having not played since 2nd, it’s nice to find a basic breakdown to really cement the fundamentals. Great work and cheers! 👍
I havent played since 5th... It really has changed a good bit as far as damage, command points, and stratagems... very thankful for these videos. This old boy cant wait to be viable again lol
This was the most broken down video that has helped immensely! Straight to the point and love the examples you gave. Showing my friends this one so our next game can go much smoother lol
What I’ve learned from this video and trying it myself; correct me if I’m wrong- The BS is how you hit with a ranged weapon or gun in the shooting phase. The strength versus toughness wound roll comes into affect next. After removing the dice that failed to penetrate the armor of your opponent, Your opponent makes a saving throw with the remaining dice; and can save with their model’s SV. If your opponent fails the SV throw; the remaining dice is treated as damage (Wounds) equal to the attacking model’s damage (D) per dice. The wounds caused only goes to the models equal to the amount of dice remaining. It’s the same thing for making Attacks (A) in the fight phase only use WS instead of BS. God that’s a lot to remember when you’re a newcomer or getting back into it.
With a blast weapon you actually count how many models there are in the unit if 6 or more you always get at least 3 hits and 11 or more you always get 6 hits.
I appreciate this. I'm in a weird position. I have painted 3 armies in the past year and played no games since 4th edition! You can read and paint through the whole pandemic, but there is very little walkthrough of the very basics here on RUclips. It's very helpful. The basic mechanics haven't changed all that much since 4th, just a bit more complexity.
You made a mistake in the charge phase. Each charge must end within engagement range but not base to base. This is because you may have multiple combats on the go at the same time. Once all your charges are completed then you select a charging unit and that unit Piles In, which means all models in the unit move up to 3" to get base to base with the enemy. If models can not get into base contact with the enemy they must still move forward as close as possible. (If you think about it, this allows you to differentiate between new charges and ongoing fights. This is important because all charging units fight first). Models that can fight are models that are within Engagement range of an enemy unit it charged or models that are within 1/2" of a model in its own unit that is within 1/2" of the enemy unit. The significance of the engagement range is that it is up to an inch out from the defending unit. In the past the rule required base to base contact for a successful charge. Now a charge only requires closing into engagement range. The subtle difference is that while an enemy unit might be 8" away. The actual engagement range is only 7" away. However the rules do state that you can only charge if you are within 12" of an enemy unit. (Unless you are evil like me and use Banshee's who get a bonus 3" to their charge range and their rules allow them to charge from up to 15" away, not to mention charging after Advancing, que evil giggle).
Space Marines are a good introductory army to show off the rules because you know which side you have to play if you want to stand a chance of winning while also growing a giant beard in the process.
Thanks. I've been watching your games and I was guessing this was approx what was happening. But not armed with rule book and codex I was in the dark. Enjoying content. Thanks again.
Thank you, great job keeping to the basics. It's been a long time since I played (even then it was WAB) so this was very helpful. Can't wait to get on the battlefield.
Hi...Recently retired and got into 40k at the end of 8th so now contending with changes to 9th. I have watched many instruction vids and battle report to learn the game and read the rules. The common theme I have and my struggle to learn is that you all know the game too well. You all have too much familiarity with the rules. I know this sounds backward but it seems to me that those traits make it very hard to "dumb it down" at a speed that allows the newbie to absorb and learn. I know you are all trying to pass on your love of the game and to encourage people to join in, but, as each sentence is uttered 5 questions appear in the brain. 40k is an involving and very enjoyable game but it's complexity is vast. GW do not help with rules spread over a battlefield of information and I often find myself searching for far too long to find a solution to a question. Quick note......wounds and damage, to my mind, are different entities and you mentioned that a weapons is damage 2 so he gets wounded twice. Is it not confusing as wounds travel yet damage does not ? Also, the abilities of models in a unit to fire is dependant on a models range and LOS not the units range and LOS ? Sorry, I've ranted on but thought feedback might be of value from someone still at the low end of the learning curve.
Roy Lewis it’s such a complex game, the reality is that the only way you will learn how to play is to be shown how to play, face to face by someone else who knows how to play already. After you’ve done this about 3 times, then you can go away and read the rules and they’ll make sense. In the meantime while Covid is still raging, I’d suggest you collect, build and paint an army and some terrain. There are plenty of army lists on the internet for your faction if you’re not sure what to buy.
The LOS thing, he means that if a model in a unit cant see the target, it cant shoot, even if the others can, and if one model is in range but the rest aren't only the same one model can shoot
Hi, Excellent and simple to follow video, just what I needed to learn the new edition rules after nearly 10 years away from the hobby. Thanks, look forward to more top videos.
Thank you for this video can we see more complex fights broken down. Like terminators or dreadnought. Also each time a unit has a new turn all dead models don't stack right in the moral test.
does anyone else notice that the starter editions like the recruit, elite, and command edition all have datasheets without key feature. for example "reanimation protocols" for necron warriors. I am a new player so I just wanted to see if I was crazy. Thank you for making this rule video though, it is very helpful
Yeah the starter editions are really meant to be replacements for the codexes so sometimes some stuff will be left out. GW dosent want to make things too cheap.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Boyz charged into the Intercessors, so why did the Intercessors get a bonus attack for charging when they weren’t the unit that charged?
Thanks for this video. I'm new to the game, read the rules but missed the part during fight phase where a unit within 1/2 of a friendly unit that is also 1/2 inch from an opponent can fight without piling in.
Could you help me? How do I resolve these attacks? I got a nobz unit with an ammo runt. A. I use the nobz 4+ save, allocate a lost wound to the ammo runt and the rest to the nobz B. I use the ammo runts 6+ save and soak up all the hits. I am very confused by this since wounds don't roll-over. Thanks.
I haven't played since 7th edition and I love your battle report vids BTW. Has the army bases changed to bigger bases. Just an example a tactical squad blood angels still use the 28mm still being the norm?
@@StrikingScorpion82 sorry to bother u, I pre-ordered the ba codex for next months release didn't see an option for the cards. Do u know if cards are being released?
Forgive me if ive missed something, but did you attempt a charge with the blood angels after using rapid fire weapons? Has this been changed since previous editions?
How does one charge with vehicle-borne infantry this edition? Would i have to leave an impulsor stationary as the models disembark to move,shoot, assault? Would they only be able to shoot/assault? Also, how do grav-chutes work? I used to use jumppack marines. it seems that all jumppack units can assault from deepstrike, but grav-chutes can't.
For most vehicles (leaving out the impulsor because I believe it has a special rule allowing units to disembark after the transport has moved) you must have the unit/s embarked proceed to disembark before their transport has moved. They can then act normally (meaning move, shoot, and charge as you see fit). Jump packs on space marines give the marines a special rule allowing them to deep strike 9" away guaranteed, at the end of your movement phase (besides on turn one). They grant their wearers the FLY and JUMPPACK keywords, allowing them to move over models and ignore terrain height, etc. Grav chutes are different in that they, like jetpacks, allow you to deep strike in the same way, but do not grant you the fly keyword, meaning you are going to be walking like any other base infantry. Hopefully that answered your questions fully.
Does it not say in the rules that you cant modify the SV so its totally lost? I mean they had now +6 and the weapon fired 1 ap but it dosent matter becouse you cant modify more then 6+?
I've got back into 40k after about a 6 year break (I also sold all of my old models ..... I'm stupid 😂). Anyway, thank you for this video! It has helped me a lot.
im so glad I didn't throw mine out when I got tired of them. A few years later, Im mad about it again- and I opened my boxes, and I have tons of orks, space wolves , astra militarum- and several tanks :D. So glad haha :P
Awesome explanation of 9th rules... I'm new to the hobby, and i have some questions :P 1) Does fighting back always happen or just on the round that the unit was charged? 2) How do pistols work? Can they be fired while in melee? For this example show in the video, can the boys shoot the space marines in the next shooting phase (since all of them have pistols)?
I do believe theyll get a codex, but we have to see which faction will recieve and overhaul first. Necrons just got a full new range and new models, hopefully we see orks and aeldar and maybe catachans next
Codexes will be released over the next couple months, and codexes aren't too important as a lot of the stuff in it you'd need would come with the units you buy. But if you are looking to start soon and/ or need a little help understanding then feel free to get one.
okay so i had an issue in the most recent game i played, how close can i move/advance units towards an enemy unit, such as right up to engagement range or have to stop say 2" away? was a thing that came up in the game and we didn't really get it resolved. also pile in was another that seemed to be a foggy understanding in that game, so if there's some clarification on exactly how pile in is used correctly I would appreciate it. Thanks and always love the videos!
I cannot comprehend the math in Warhammer.. or modifiers. Which honestly is whats turning me off from wanting to play and just collect and paint. Example given: 4+ Sv. Weapons Ap -1. 4-1=3. How is it 5+. And then after says you "deduct" Hows that deducting? Youre adding.. 6+ sv for orks against a weapon with AP-1. Wouldnt that be a 5+ to save since 6-1 is 5? Ive watches several how to play videos and this is what always confuses the hell out of me. And no offense, noone has done a good job or even elaborates or explained this. If someone could thats be greatly appreciates. Other than that Ima just collect and paint. 🤣
The Warhammer card game that is sponsoring you, is there any way to play it without having to play for a very long period of time by the lame-ass space Marines?
Yeah, buy other faction packs with the energy things. I got quite a few necron cards on my first day. You may have to wait as they only do certain factions at a time.
Absolutely you can, save up plasma by taking part in the campaigns, play competitive when you reach level 5, and save your gold for units that directly affect the weekly campaigns.
Absolutely glad to see more explanation and playthrough of how to play this game. As a new player it is not easy.
Stick with it mate/.
Welcome to the hobby!
Hope it helps:)
It's kind of best to teach people how to play by throwing them in the deeper end and just teach as you play a game.
Big Chungus UwU Keanu Ebic That’s called drowning.
As someone looking at getting back into playing 40K having not played since 2nd, it’s nice to find a basic breakdown to really cement the fundamentals. Great work and cheers! 👍
I havent played since 5th... It really has changed a good bit as far as damage, command points, and stratagems... very thankful for these videos. This old boy cant wait to be viable again lol
This was the most broken down video that has helped immensely! Straight to the point and love the examples you gave. Showing my friends this one so our next game can go much smoother lol
Haven't played in about 20 years and now just getting back into it. Thanks so much for this!
What I’ve learned from this video and trying it myself; correct me if I’m wrong-
The BS is how you hit with a ranged weapon or gun in the shooting phase.
The strength versus toughness wound roll comes into affect next.
After removing the dice that failed to penetrate the armor of your opponent, Your opponent makes a saving throw with the remaining dice; and can save with their model’s SV.
If your opponent fails the SV throw; the remaining dice is treated as damage (Wounds) equal to the attacking model’s damage (D) per dice.
The wounds caused only goes to the models equal to the amount of dice remaining.
It’s the same thing for making Attacks (A) in the fight phase only use WS instead of BS.
God that’s a lot to remember when you’re a newcomer or getting back into it.
With a blast weapon you actually count how many models there are in the unit if 6 or more you always get at least 3 hits and 11 or more you always get 6 hits.
I appreciate this. I'm in a weird position. I have painted 3 armies in the past year and played no games since 4th edition! You can read and paint through the whole pandemic, but there is very little walkthrough of the very basics here on RUclips. It's very helpful. The basic mechanics haven't changed all that much since 4th, just a bit more complexity.
You made a mistake in the charge phase. Each charge must end within engagement range but not base to base. This is because you may have multiple combats on the go at the same time. Once all your charges are completed then you select a charging unit and that unit Piles In, which means all models in the unit move up to 3" to get base to base with the enemy. If models can not get into base contact with the enemy they must still move forward as close as possible. (If you think about it, this allows you to differentiate between new charges and ongoing fights. This is important because all charging units fight first).
Models that can fight are models that are within Engagement range of an enemy unit it charged or models that are within 1/2" of a model in its own unit that is within 1/2" of the enemy unit.
The significance of the engagement range is that it is up to an inch out from the defending unit. In the past the rule required base to base contact for a successful charge. Now a charge only requires closing into engagement range. The subtle difference is that while an enemy unit might be 8" away. The actual engagement range is only 7" away. However the rules do state that you can only charge if you are within 12" of an enemy unit. (Unless you are evil like me and use Banshee's who get a bonus 3" to their charge range and their rules allow them to charge from up to 15" away, not to mention charging after Advancing, que evil giggle).
Space Marines are a good introductory army to show off the rules because you know which side you have to play if you want to stand a chance of winning while also growing a giant beard in the process.
@Marissa Lynne Dwarf women have beards 🤷
Great video! Would love a vid explaining battle forged armies and some of the other rules not covered that are more involved
Yes hope to film more:)
Thanks for the video. I am coming back after a long time away. Good over view of everything new.
Thanks. I've been watching your games and I was guessing this was approx what was happening. But not armed with rule book and codex I was in the dark.
Enjoying content. Thanks again.
Thanks for this. A small battle like this is perfect. Other vids are very overwhelming compared to this one! 👍👍👍
Very clear, precise, informative with nice examples.Thanks it really helped.
Recently started playing again and can't believe how buffed space mariens are.
just had a solo play withy my necrons and marines with this, thanks for the info
Thank you, great job keeping to the basics. It's been a long time since I played (even then it was WAB) so this was very helpful. Can't wait to get on the battlefield.
So just out of curiosity can they now shoot again on the next turn or can units that are in a "fight" not shoot or move?
Hi...Recently retired and got into 40k at the end of 8th so now contending with changes to 9th. I have watched many instruction vids and battle report to learn the game and read the rules. The common theme I have and my struggle to learn is that you all know the game too well. You all have too much familiarity with the rules. I know this sounds backward but it seems to me that those traits make it very hard to "dumb it down" at a speed that allows the newbie to absorb and learn. I know you are all trying to pass on your love of the game and to encourage people to join in, but, as each sentence is uttered 5 questions appear in the brain. 40k is an involving and very enjoyable game but it's complexity is vast. GW do not help with rules spread over a battlefield of information and I often find myself searching for far too long to find a solution to a question. Quick note......wounds and damage, to my mind, are different entities and you mentioned that a weapons is damage 2 so he gets wounded twice. Is it not confusing as wounds travel yet damage does not ? Also, the abilities of models in a unit to fire is dependant on a models range and LOS not the units range and LOS ? Sorry, I've ranted on but thought feedback might be of value from someone still at the low end of the learning curve.
Roy Lewis it’s such a complex game, the reality is that the only way you will learn how to play is to be shown how to play, face to face by someone else who knows how to play already. After you’ve done this about 3 times, then you can go away and read the rules and they’ll make sense. In the meantime while Covid is still raging, I’d suggest you collect, build and paint an army and some terrain. There are plenty of army lists on the internet for your faction if you’re not sure what to buy.
The LOS thing, he means that if a model in a unit cant see the target, it cant shoot, even if the others can, and if one model is in range but the rest aren't only the same one model can shoot
Love these videos!! Would love to see more especially some more in-depth
Yes plan to expand this series:)
Hi, Excellent and simple to follow video, just what I needed to learn the new edition rules after nearly 10 years away from the hobby. Thanks, look forward to more top videos.
Thank you for this video can we see more complex fights broken down. Like terminators or dreadnought. Also each time a unit has a new turn all dead models don't stack right in the moral test.
Fantastic job! Super easy to understand. Where does that ring bound rule book come from??
Thanks a ton, great explanation! I found this very helpful.
does anyone else notice that the starter editions like the recruit, elite, and command edition all have datasheets without key feature. for example "reanimation protocols" for necron warriors. I am a new player so I just wanted to see if I was crazy.
Thank you for making this rule video though, it is very helpful
Yeah the starter editions are really meant to be replacements for the codexes so sometimes some stuff will be left out. GW dosent want to make things too cheap.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Boyz charged into the Intercessors, so why did the Intercessors get a bonus attack for charging when they weren’t the unit that charged?
Help. My game DVD didn't come with those little figure things. Can I still play with dice?
Thanks for this video. I'm new to the game, read the rules but missed the part during fight phase where a unit within 1/2 of a friendly unit that is also 1/2 inch from an opponent can fight without piling in.
Is there a link to the follow up vid on command points and stratagems?
Great work Luke! 🧙♂️
Good vid. As a recent (re) starter of the game I would have loved this a month or so ago. Great help to new players.
Could you help me? How do I resolve these attacks? I got a nobz unit with an ammo runt.
A. I use the nobz 4+ save, allocate a lost wound to the ammo runt and the rest to the nobz
B. I use the ammo runts 6+ save and soak up all the hits.
I am very confused by this since wounds don't roll-over. Thanks.
Great video, very helpful!
I haven't played since 7th edition and I love your battle report vids BTW. Has the army bases changed to bigger bases. Just an example a tactical squad blood angels still use the 28mm still being the norm?
Thanks. Glad you enjoy the games. Yes bases have gone up in size for many units. 32mm now I think:)
@@StrikingScorpion82 sorry to bother u, I pre-ordered the ba codex for next months release didn't see an option for the cards. Do u know if cards are being released?
Forgive me if ive missed something, but did you attempt a charge with the blood angels after using rapid fire weapons? Has this been changed since previous editions?
Yes I think now you can fire after using rapid fire weapons:)
@@StrikingScorpion82 Oh my god. Thats amazing if true! My bolter sisters will love that!!
@@titanwars1419 I like the new change, but what is the advantage of an assault weapon now?
Love your videos! But when are we gonna get some Dark Angel love on this channel? ;)
I will challenge Luke again once I've painted my new indomitus marines
Yeah they need to be on the channel more. Maybe in some challenge battles:)
@@StrikingScorpion82 I haven't played 9th edition yet so I will need some list building advice!
Got subbed just for ur ad :)
How does one charge with vehicle-borne infantry this edition? Would i have to leave an impulsor stationary as the models disembark to move,shoot, assault? Would they only be able to shoot/assault? Also, how do grav-chutes work? I used to use jumppack marines. it seems that all jumppack units can assault from deepstrike, but grav-chutes can't.
For most vehicles (leaving out the impulsor because I believe it has a special rule allowing units to disembark after the transport has moved) you must have the unit/s embarked proceed to disembark before their transport has moved. They can then act normally (meaning move, shoot, and charge as you see fit).
Jump packs on space marines give the marines a special rule allowing them to deep strike 9" away guaranteed, at the end of your movement phase (besides on turn one). They grant their wearers the FLY and JUMPPACK keywords, allowing them to move over models and ignore terrain height, etc.
Grav chutes are different in that they, like jetpacks, allow you to deep strike in the same way, but do not grant you the fly keyword, meaning you are going to be walking like any other base infantry.
Hopefully that answered your questions fully.
@@phrikaphrak40k it does thanks
I haven't played since 4th, so blast markers are a thing of the past?
Does it not say in the rules that you cant modify the SV so its totally lost? I mean they had now +6 and the weapon fired 1 ap but it dosent matter becouse you cant modify more then 6+?
I've got back into 40k after about a 6 year break (I also sold all of my old models ..... I'm stupid 😂). Anyway, thank you for this video! It has helped me a lot.
im so glad I didn't throw mine out when I got tired of them. A few years later, Im mad about it again- and I opened my boxes, and I have tons of orks, space wolves , astra militarum- and several tanks :D. So glad haha :P
Battle Masters skull tokens for wounds, Classic!
Awesome explanation of 9th rules...
I'm new to the hobby, and i have some questions :P
1) Does fighting back always happen or just on the round that the unit was charged?
2) How do pistols work? Can they be fired while in melee?
For this example show in the video, can the boys shoot the space marines in the next shooting phase (since all of them have pistols)?
will there be a new codex for 9th ed orks or is 8th ed codex still what is used for abilitys /stats?
Use 8th codex until the 9th one is released
I do believe theyll get a codex, but we have to see which faction will recieve and overhaul first. Necrons just got a full new range and new models, hopefully we see orks and aeldar and maybe catachans next
Codexes will be released over the next couple months, and codexes aren't too important as a lot of the stuff in it you'd need would come with the units you buy. But if you are looking to start soon and/ or need a little help understanding then feel free to get one.
@@sevatorion7975 its more about not wanting to buy one if a new updated one comes out and changes things
okay so i had an issue in the most recent game i played, how close can i move/advance units towards an enemy unit, such as right up to engagement range or have to stop say 2" away? was a thing that came up in the game and we didn't really get it resolved. also pile in was another that seemed to be a foggy understanding in that game, so if there's some clarification on exactly how pile in is used correctly I would appreciate it. Thanks and always love the videos!
I played along with the video
Aaaah you rolled that one and didnt give the orkz a chance to shine :(
lol:)
I remember playing space hulk as a kid... By myself....because I had no friends :(
I appreciate the video, but I just can't do it. Late 7th ed was the zenith of 40K, if I ever play again it will be with those rules.
Tought you never could make The armour safe so bad with AP? Toguht you Always hade 6 to save No matter what?
Ordered the recruit box. Looks so complicated.
blood angels and orks, my 2 armies xD
cool:)
Same! I love melee factions!
I was wondering what David Beckham is up to these days
I see why you didn't use tau as an example....you were to afraid of our AWESOME overwatch ;)
I cannot comprehend the math in Warhammer.. or modifiers. Which honestly is whats turning me off from wanting to play and just collect and paint.
Example given: 4+ Sv. Weapons Ap -1. 4-1=3. How is it 5+. And then after says you "deduct" Hows that deducting? Youre adding.. 6+ sv for orks against a weapon with AP-1. Wouldnt that be a 5+ to save since 6-1 is 5?
Ive watches several how to play videos and this is what always confuses the hell out of me. And no offense, noone has done a good job or even elaborates or explained this.
If someone could thats be greatly appreciates. Other than that Ima just collect and paint. 🤣
a 4+ save is a dice with 4-5 or 6 to make a save. Ap-1 modifi one of that save so that make it 5 or 6 to make a save.
@@felippejonsson6078 Thanks for the reply. I made sense of it the other day.
The Warhammer card game that is sponsoring you, is there any way to play it without having to play for a very long period of time by the lame-ass space Marines?
Yeah, buy other faction packs with the energy things. I got quite a few necron cards on my first day. You may have to wait as they only do certain factions at a time.
Absolutely you can, save up plasma by taking part in the campaigns, play competitive when you reach level 5, and save your gold for units that directly affect the weekly campaigns.
Arm wrestling: Scorpion wins (upvote) Duncan wins (downvote)
A nob with a big chopper!!!🤣
... why on earth are you always taking videos of your hand talking/bouncing around the screen?
Ever seen his face?
Hes clearly a pair of arms.
Because its easier just to show the key stuff instead of him trying to fit himself and all that stuff in.
Too pretty for youtube
@@oliverp3545 I am not sure if I have ever seen his arms...
I suppose that this could be squigs holding robotic hand sticks with another squig speaking into a microphone.