The Medieval Queen UNBURIED And LEFT TO ROT For 400 Years!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Royal Burials are considered today huge and spectacular events, but over the centuries the same can too be said. The Funeral of Elizabeth I marking the end of the Tudor Period was huge and lavish with mourners marking the processional way, but Henry VIII her father is still today left in a vault which goes against his wishes. Henry VIII wished for a huge tomb to be created for him to encase the body of himself and his third wife Jane Seymour, but still 500 years following his death he remains in a sealed vault under the floor of St George’s Chapel in Windsor Castle, where only a simply slab marks his burial site. This is not what the King wanted, but there was one Queen who died in the 15th century who’s story after her death is nothing short of shocking, disgusting and a disgrace. Catherine of Valois is remembered today as the Queen who was left unburied for 400 years inside the heart of the Church of England, Westminster Abbey. But she experienced a large amount of disturbing desecration to her body in the centuries after her death.
    Catherine of Valois today is best remembered for being the Queen and wife of Henry V of England. Henry V is regarded as one of the finest King’s England had, as he won a spectacular battle at Agincourt during the 100 Years War. Catherine gave birth to Henry VI a King who became embroiled in the Wars of the Roses, and ultimately lost out and was murdered within the walls of the Tower of London, despite having a long reign. Catherine’s marriage to Henry V was part of a plan to combine the throne of France and England, and her son was later crowned King of both countries but this ultimately was too much. Whilst she was pregnant with her second child, her husband Henry V died after becoming sick. Catherine was not even 21 when this happened and was left as a Dowager Queen. But following the death of the French King, her son Henry VI became the ruler of England and France.

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  • @elkelewtschuk9894
    @elkelewtschuk9894 Год назад +718

    Absolutely disgusting that no members of Queen Catherine's family saw to it that this woman had a burial. I'm appalled by these events that saw her body desecrated.

    • @carolinecholmodeley8719
      @carolinecholmodeley8719 Год назад +16

      Here; here 😔

    • @mannyfresh2deff
      @mannyfresh2deff Год назад

      I wouldn't be surprised,,just how ppl are and what makes them..death is a part of life ,there's nothing bout it that's bad,,it's not the dead u should worry it's the living u should be worry bout,,and wit all these pedophile priest and religion goin on worry bout a dead body it's nothin to be appalled for ,it call life ,,,poor Catherine wonder how many ppl abused her when she was stiff as a board,family would do that ,, 😂..

    • @lorewissigkeit5555
      @lorewissigkeit5555 Год назад +1

      O0

    • @psychobear1290
      @psychobear1290 Год назад

      Is it not an indictment of the fact they have no honour and yet would have us believe that they have more right to rule than anyone?

    • @detroitpistons4095
      @detroitpistons4095 Год назад +11

      If you don't like how they treated her at the end, how do you feel about how black slaves were treated by this queens white people?

  • @maryannfelice6326
    @maryannfelice6326 Год назад +154

    I, too, am appalled by the mistreatment of her remains. Kiss the corpse? Removing parts of her body? Disgusting.

  • @texacalimom6034
    @texacalimom6034 Год назад +172

    This is such a bizarre violation of this poor woman-I’m glad she finally was laid to rest.

  • @ghostonewolf7201
    @ghostonewolf7201 Год назад +223

    There is a moral reason why our dead should be treated respectfully. It's genuinely horrible how this Queen was treated in death and, most likely, in life. Because only she really knows what she suffered. I pray that her soul has finally found peace. I am also grateful that the story of how she was disrespected was told. Because I feel even in life, she didn't deserve any of this. Only shows how morbid and ugly people can be.

    • @anneeversley2405
      @anneeversley2405 Год назад +11

      This is equivalent to Prince Charles' treatment of HRH DIANA THE PRINCESS of WALES. Charles, Camilla, and the staff pulled a lot of cruel tricks on Diana. Charles needed Diana to be the mother of their children. When the RF thought DIANA's SONS were old enough CHARLES had Diana assassinated. Following Diana's and Dodi's car into the Paris tunnel was most DEFINITELY NOT paparazzi as they only utilise small lightweight scooters so they can be as quick as they can to obtain the best photos possible. The better the photo the bigger the money paid to the paparazzi. The assassins in the Paris tunnel were riding on large black motorcycles. When Diana's and Dodi's car crashed, one of the assassins went over to the car and no one in the car moved. Diana and Dodi were NOT able to use the seatbelts as they were deliberately jammed up. I spent seventeen (17) years of my life researching, studying, reading, and anything I could get my hands on.
      There is NOT any doubt that Diana and Dodi were assassinated.

    • @catrionamacfarlane4949
      @catrionamacfarlane4949 Год назад

      @@anneeversley2405 Fancy still believing this bs....
      The one story has nothing in common with the other.
      Are you aware that Diana didn't wear a seat belt....her body guard certainly doing his job...the driver was drunk...couldn't anyone in that car smell the alcohol?

    • @Cuteemogirl94
      @Cuteemogirl94 Год назад +5

      In Germany it is common to burn the bod, after death. One of the reasons is fear of the undead

    • @wufongtanwufong5579
      @wufongtanwufong5579 Год назад +4

      @@anneeversley2405 Hand your evidence over to the police.

    • @acfatemi
      @acfatemi Год назад

      @@anneeversley2405 could it be arabian arms traders that ordered the murder?

  • @lb8141
    @lb8141 Год назад +141

    Appalling, I blame her family for allowing such disrespect for an ancestor.

  • @HeleniqueToday
    @HeleniqueToday Год назад +450

    i am stunned by the lowness of conduct that could be brought to a person after their death, let alone a queen. really heartbreaking. i was always charmed by the story of her life. may she rest In peace and dignity, at last. 🌸

    • @FiveMCity
      @FiveMCity Год назад +11

      Dignity? Half of her body is missing 😅

    • @pain_weaver
      @pain_weaver Год назад +6

      @Janitor Queen money is a powerful drug.

    • @wellesmorgado4797
      @wellesmorgado4797 Год назад +6

      They also did appalling things to the royal bodies, during the french revolution. Today, we might see them as part of history, but folks saw them as enemies in the past.

    • @HeleniqueToday
      @HeleniqueToday Год назад +1

      @@wellesmorgado4797 you’re absolutely correct. atrocious conduct ruled during the start of the french revolution. the corpse of king louis xiv was propped up on the street for days. he brought the country to the verge of bankruptcy when he built versailles and engaged in so many fruitless wars. and the decapitated body of marie antoinette was covered with lye, as many of the other bodies of the french royals were. in fact, none of them are back in there correct vaults at this time, because no one could be correctly identified after the bodies were destroyed with lye. it is just an awful proof of the depths of human activity when it is left unchecked. 💔

    • @orphic.marxman
      @orphic.marxman Год назад +4

      You should see what happened to the other members of her french royal family in Saint-Denis during the Revolution (namely eviscerations of the cadavers, destroying of tombs not considered as "representative of the arts", throwing into mass graves where DNA got mixed up and cause identification problems to this very day, jewel-crafting out of the bones, using of the lead of the basilica's very roof as ammunition in the war effort against Prussia...among other things), so technically for a frenchborn monarch she could have gotten worse

  • @nathonics
    @nathonics Год назад +89

    She deserved so much more, especially being an ancestor of QE II and Charles III. A truly elegant lady for her time. A very important link indeed.

    • @bethflynn4278
      @bethflynn4278 Год назад +5

      I could be wrong, but I do not believe that QEII was related to the Tudor line. The Tudors and the Stuarts line ended and the crown went to their Hanoverian cousins at some point. That was QVictoria's line from which QEII is related.

    • @nathonics
      @nathonics Год назад +6

      Shes related to some of the Tudors because Henry VII’s daughter Margaret, who was Henry VIII’s older sister, married James IV of Scotland, then James V, then Mary Queen of Scots, and the. James VI of Scotland united the crowns and became James I of England. James IV was an ancestor of James I, who was part of the Stuart Line. Henry VII’s daughter Margaret, then was a Tudor when she married James IV of Scotland, who was a Stuart.

  • @susangavaghan
    @susangavaghan 2 года назад +384

    This was an appalling story. I can't understand how people could be so disrespectful to a dead body.

    • @johnny63ism
      @johnny63ism Год назад

      People had dark and closed mind. If they could burn alive thousands of people, then story of Catherine is not surprising at all. At least she was dead and couldn't feel anything

    • @DonnaChamberson
      @DonnaChamberson Год назад

      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL Look up Jeffrey Dahmer, dingus face!

    • @monza1002000
      @monza1002000 Год назад +2

      Because its a dead body?

    • @raphinyo
      @raphinyo Год назад +15

      Egyptian mummy still been a dead body and there is not much respect for them.

    • @susangavaghan
      @susangavaghan Год назад +6

      @@raphinyo Yes I agree. They are generally kept i caskets and people don't touch or defile them.

  • @brendaowens7463
    @brendaowens7463 Год назад +20

    It is absolutely abhorrent to disgrace a person this way. You would never be able to sale her remains to anyone of decent moral fiber. May the dear lady rest in piece.

  • @patriciarodger6619
    @patriciarodger6619 Год назад +42

    Shocking. She deserved Respect as a beautiful young Queen...

  • @lilyg5304
    @lilyg5304 Год назад +30

    The disrespect shown her is a sad statement of how, for some people, nothing is held sacred.

    • @flirtygirl2569
      @flirtygirl2569 Год назад

      THAT WAS BEFORE YOUR TIME SO DONT MATHER ABOUT IT. ANGLO SAXONS SUFFERED MORE WHEN TUDORS INVADED ENGLAND.

  • @beverleyfairfoull3649
    @beverleyfairfoull3649 Год назад +73

    There is a strong theory, often overlooked, that Katherine’s second son Edmund (allegedly to Owen Tudor) may in fact have been Edmund Beaufort’s child. After the death of Henry V, Katherine and Edmund had wanted to marry but were prevented from doing so by the council acting for her son Henry VI. It is possible that her third son Jasper was also Edmund’s child. Both Edmund and Jasper were born in considerable secrecy. After the collapse of her relationship with Edmund Beaufort, his marriage and her subsequent relationship with Owen Tudor she went on to have three more children, of whom little is known. It’s possible that her unconventional private life after the death of the hero Henry V coloured attitudes towards her, particularly those of her grandson Henry VII and Henry VIII, hence the disgraceful treatment of her body in the years following her death.

  • @shygirlcomplex
    @shygirlcomplex 2 года назад +135

    As times change so do the people that’s beyond disrespectful not because she was a queen , but because she was a person and I can’t imagine what kind of people get that much pleasure from disrespecting the dead😬😬it’s mind blowing

    • @Ga11ifreyan
      @Ga11ifreyan Год назад

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @frankharrington4881
      @frankharrington4881 Год назад

      I agree! Patricia Gambino Harrington

    • @frankharrington4881
      @frankharrington4881 Год назад

      @@Ga11ifreyan if that were an ancestor of yours would you find it amusing? Maybe someone will disrespect you after death!!!! Patricia Gambino Harrington

    • @lafayette574
      @lafayette574 Год назад +1

      Henry the VIII was a horrid man and I'm not surprised at the way he disrespected the remains of Queen Catherine.

  • @allies7184
    @allies7184 Год назад +140

    It's so horrid how some people blame God for their sins. No place in the Bible does it claim that God allows a person's body to lay unburied due to a sin. If that was the case, we'd see thousands of unburied corpses lining the streets and valleys. No that poor woman laid unburied for centuries due to the neglect of her descendants, and the reason she had no clothes on was that a graverobber or robbers stole them. After all that the men of her generation and beyond did to her; she is still known to most woman as a great queen.

    • @monza1002000
      @monza1002000 Год назад +4

      No such thing as god

    • @allies7184
      @allies7184 Год назад

      @@monza1002000 How do I know there's anything such as you? You could be a figment of my imagination. So, unless you have absolute proof that there is no God, please just keep it to yourself.

    • @parapsychologist5402
      @parapsychologist5402 Год назад +3

      I didn't understand that this video was about that.

    • @mlr4524
      @mlr4524 Год назад +4

      @@sandrazollman550 It matters not. Our soul/spirit already knows what it is and awakens unto itself upon passing. Our limiting belief systems while extant on the earth plane are ultimately not relevant.

    • @sacrebleu1371
      @sacrebleu1371 Год назад

      @@sandrazollman550 You assume that is truth and appear to try to force it on others. Thankfully, I know what it is to have died, even if only for a few moments. Religion is sure messed up and messes people up. Especially the hate they show others when it says to love one another. Spoiler alert: your comment on death isn't even within visual range of being on target.

  • @dawsie
    @dawsie 2 года назад +739

    Henry VIII had the chance to correct a wrong to Queen Catherine, but he ignored his Grandfather’s wishes of burring his wife next to him, and so when he wished to be buried along side his 3rd wife, he too has been denied. If he had simply done as what Henry V had wanted maybe he might of gotten what he had wanted. Karma will always visit.

  • @keithm6117
    @keithm6117 Год назад +66

    It was a shame Henry Vlll was a total arse and such an appalling example of a human being "let alone a king", there can be no doubt as to why he lays in a damp crypt and no memorial was ever completed. Catherine deserved soo much better.

    • @Lana96269
      @Lana96269 Год назад +12

      All of his wife’s deserved better

  • @iankearns774
    @iankearns774 Год назад +41

    That is shocking, just shows that the depths of depravity by some people knew no bounds. At least now she rests in peace.

    • @ross1748
      @ross1748 Год назад

      I got dared to urinate on a tomb stone from 1920 a few years ago when I was drunk. I regret it now.

  • @tracyjohnson2992
    @tracyjohnson2992 Год назад +26

    It is an outrage to think a monarch of England be treated in such a manor. It is an absolute disgrace how her body was violated in such a way that pieces went missing. Holy Shit, People should be ashamed of themselves. Where is the respect this woman had during her life. It is a sin to do this to another human being of such stature in the times when people would not have dreamt of doing such a thing. At least times have improved some what since those days, although sometimes i wonder. An absolute disgrace she should have gotten her wish to be buried next to her husband as requested. What parts of her still remain that is. What a sin.

    • @b11-x3o
      @b11-x3o Год назад

      The same can be said about Egyptian mummies opned up and set to be seen in museums by the "English"

  • @Calinotch06
    @Calinotch06 Год назад +15

    How disrespectful, viewing her body, refusing to bury her.

  • @ahmedsenussi8232
    @ahmedsenussi8232 Год назад +16

    This is disgusting once someone dies they should be layed to rest

  • @kathrynmast916
    @kathrynmast916 2 года назад +147

    Poor Queen Catherine, she was mistreated and disrespected. Samuel Pepys takes first place for weird behavior with the kissing her. Rest In Peace.

    • @butterchicken83
      @butterchicken83 2 года назад

      Fanboi and necrophilic, all rolled into one.

    • @barbarak2836
      @barbarak2836 2 года назад +15

      He was far from the only one to do that. He just wrote it down.

    • @theresalaux5655
      @theresalaux5655 2 года назад +14

      He was a weirdo, Samuel Pepys that is!

    • @marycanary86
      @marycanary86 2 года назад +12

      pepys takes a lot of prices for being a knob in general

    • @catarroja3
      @catarroja3 2 года назад +8

      Sick man!

  • @dellarae
    @dellarae Год назад +38

    So bones were taken...imagine where they are now?! Anybody have random family heirloom bones knocking about 😐

  • @maralynphillips8133
    @maralynphillips8133 Год назад +25

    Like all the others I am horrified at how this Queen was treated. Ignored by so many people. All I can say is her beautiful spirit went to be with God and was honoured by him, the body is nothing really but what was done with her remains is beyond comprehension.

  • @livc1981
    @livc1981 Год назад +33

    Wow...how sad for anyone's remains to be treated like that. 😔

  • @lasalletxnurse1
    @lasalletxnurse1 Год назад +11

    It is amazing how people conducting archeological digs exhibit more respect for the dead

  • @lynnedean713
    @lynnedean713 2 года назад +45

    What a coincidence. I thoroughly enjoy the stories on this site so I listened to the run up as to who this queen was........only to find, that for the last four nights, I have been reading her life story! Now, did I turn off so as not to spoil the book or listen? I listened because at my elderly age, lol, I am bound to forget all that I heard by the time I get to her funeral. I am up to the part of the eve of her wedding to Henry V so nothing is spoiled. Thank you for uploading these mini-stories and I enjoy the cadence of your voice.

    • @dolliedeishl5250
      @dolliedeishl5250 Год назад +5

      Could I ask what book it is that you are reading?

    • @lynnedean713
      @lynnedean713 Год назад +7

      @@dolliedeishl5250 Hi. It is called Red Roses by Amy Licence. I buy any book with details of Katherine Swynford who is my favourite character in history (even named my daughter Katherine). I had read Anna Seton's book back in the 1960's and fell "in love" with her story. Red Roses is a great book because it deals with many Tudor women of note, including Katherine of Valois and many of whom I am very familiar with. Another coincidence is, when I was a schoolgirl, our senior school was divided into 4 houses, like teams, and we all competed against each other. My house was De Valois! Happy Reading!!

    • @prarieborn6458
      @prarieborn6458 Год назад

      @@lynnedean713 hello, Katherine Swynford is my favorite also. Anya Seton’s story of her life is one of the most romantic love stories and it is such excellent historical novel. it sparked my interest in English medieval haistory. My next favorite lhistorical love story is “We speak No Treason” about the events in Richard III”s life. and a young girl who fell in love with him and loved him all her life and at the end lovingly tended his grave. The book was written long before Richard’s burial place was discovered in a parking lot. The amazing part is the description of the garden grave, and indeed the researchers dscovered that the graveaite had been a garden on private property that later had been developed and paved over, and the parking space had been marked with an “R”. I cannot recall the name of the author and the story is covered in 2 books.. King Richard III is portrayed as a noble and honorable person and worthy of her love, but she was a commoner and he couldn’t marry her., but they had a daughter, named Katherine! and he provided for her.

    • @lynnedean713
      @lynnedean713 Год назад +1

      @@prarieborn6458 How nice to hear from you and thank you for that recommendation. I looked it up immediately and it was written by Rosemary Hawley Jarman back in 1971. However, in 2006 the publishers re-printed it in 2 books - maybe a ploy to garner more money from us? It is on my list to purchase. I have a Kindle since my brother convinced me it would be better than a book. I rarely use it as I much prefer a book to hold! My only dismay in life is knowing, at 73, I have more books to read than I have years left! I remember when that lady found his grave in the car park, we had a documentary about it. In fact, the film came out in England last Friday - The Lost King. After it was determined that it was indeed Richard 111, his bones were re-buried/entombed in Leicester Cathedral and the public were given 3 days to file past his coffin. I only found out on the last day otherwise I would have raced up there to view too. The feeling these days amongst academics is that they do not think he was responsible for ordering the death of the Two Princes in the Tower. No one will ever know for sure. But I hope he didn't. Lovely username so I take it you are either from Canada or USA? Thank you again.

    • @prarieborn6458
      @prarieborn6458 Год назад +1

      @@lynnedean713 Dear Lynne, Oh, I was so haopy to receive your reply today.! You just lifted my spirits.and, I am delighted to see that you are a “Brit” as we say, I know it is proper to refer to England now as the UK, but I gather you are English? .Thank you for the compliment on my priarieborn screen name. Nobody has ever noticed it before. Yes, I am an American, born on the North Dakota prarie , well not right ON the prarie, I was born in a city of Minot, about 100 miles from the geographic center of the N. American continent.My great grandparents immigrated from Norway, homesteaded on the North Dakota prairie and built a little house-on-the-prarie out of sod and raised 11 children. They built a proper house eventually and the farm is still in the family o of my Mother’s kin.My father’s ancestors were “Scotch-Irish, English and Welsh” I have always lived more or less close to the Canadian border, and have visited Vctoria BC. a little bit of England, more English than the English as they say. I am an Anglophile since I can remember. I love all things English and especially English and medieval history.and have read voraciously everything I could find on the subject. Ah, the War of the Roses!! So many books, so little time.I am 78,.Are you going to go see “The Lost King” soon, I hope? I checked the Richard III Society website today for news of a release to cable tv or pay to watch on line.- nothing yet.. There is a massive amount of information there. I did find that the movie is about Phillipa Langley’s search for Richard III grave.I know there are essays and lectures there on every aspect of his life and death.and videos of his re- burial ceremonies. because I did a deep dive into the site when I got my Kindle in 2012.Thank you for the tip on the Red, Red Roses book, i will get it. today i also dug out a wonderful book, a real paperback book “The Sunne in Splendor” by Sharon Kay Penman. almost 1k pages about our Yorkist King Rchard III. a meticulously written and historically accurate novel. from 1990. Yikes. so long ago. I do prefer Kindle reading because the screen is back lit and I can read in bed at night, at my age. Well,anyway Icould write on and on, I have so much to share and I would like to communicate with you in a more private way. If you want, please send me an email at tree.haven@comcast.net. and I will answer back. I feel I have found a kindred spirit in you, close to my age, and you are English in England. wow. My name is Mary, and I hope to hear from you again. from NW WA state, 🇺🇸 🌲🌲🌲🌲🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 Год назад +16

    Thank you. As shocking as the story of Richard III's remains.

    • @rosemaryallen2128
      @rosemaryallen2128 Год назад +5

      Actually, much more shocking, because although Richard's corpse was badly treated after the battle of Bosworth, he was soon given a decent, though simple, burial by Henry Vll. One can only wonder at the false story that his remains were thrown into the River Soar at the dissolution of the monasteries! There is actually an 18C reference to the site of his tomb being known to be in a garden...

    • @hmth86
      @hmth86 Год назад

      Richard II was almost certainly responsible for the deaths of the two princes (the heirs to the throne), and other innocents that stood in his way to the throne. He was basically a villain at the time, and should not have become king in the first place. As for what happened to him, maybe it was karmic?

    • @rosemaryallen2128
      @rosemaryallen2128 Год назад +1

      @@hmth86 The fact that you did not bother to check your text, (Richard ll) somewhat undermines your scholarly credibility! And repeating the essentially Shakespearean myths about Rlll is no longer appropriate. Certainly the Princes in the Tower disappeared, which is one of the great mysteries of English history, but the rest of your assertions are proven nonsense.

  • @jhbluestar
    @jhbluestar Год назад +10

    OH MY GOSH, I am truly mortified that people would do this. I am so grateful that she has finally be given the proper respect and grace of peace. I truly hope this NEVER happens again, to ANYONE

  • @King_Steffon_II
    @King_Steffon_II Год назад +18

    And they say modern people are bad 😔 We've ALWAYS been bad 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @butterchicken83
    @butterchicken83 2 года назад +22

    After seeing the delay of reimternment in Henry VII's to-do list, i feel a bit better about mine lol

  • @mariogirard1221
    @mariogirard1221 Год назад +9

    humans,more cruel than animals

  • @pcka12
    @pcka12 Год назад +20

    So she wasn't 'left to rot'!
    She was embalmed and given a coffin!

    • @smilesface3741
      @smilesface3741 Год назад +1

      Actually, embalmed tends not to last forever. That was the reason why there are a lot of her limbs missing

    • @smilesface3741
      @smilesface3741 Год назад

      Actually, embalmed tends not to last forever. That was the reason why there are a lot of her limbs missing

    • @pcka12
      @pcka12 Год назад

      @@smilesface3741 was she perhaps an octopus? - I suppose it rather depends upon what is used for embalming, tar pits seem very effective!

  • @lenndookun847
    @lenndookun847 Год назад +14

    RIP 🌹🌹🌹 Queen 🫅 Catherine de Vallois

  • @jenniferkayersperez125
    @jenniferkayersperez125 Год назад +10

    I just watched something saying that they found Henry the 8th with Jane Seymour in a vault and they opened it up so you could still see red hair on his head

  • @leewhite-graham753
    @leewhite-graham753 Год назад +6

    Disgusting, appalling, disrespectful, and ignorant behavior all in the name of greed.

  • @wellesmorgado4797
    @wellesmorgado4797 Год назад +3

    It is such a sad fate to such an illustrious person. She deserved better...

  • @mikejohnson599
    @mikejohnson599 Год назад +8

    i am not shocked by any cruelty or perversion the human race commits i see it everyday of my life

    • @slaughter2517
      @slaughter2517 Год назад

      This is enough to shock ?in this a dead body is desecrated .wait until u learn how cartels in mexico are dealing with people it will shock the soul out of you

  • @earthcat
    @earthcat 2 года назад +13

    A sad love story between Queen Catherine and Owain Tudor...

  • @CherokeeTwilight
    @CherokeeTwilight Год назад +25

    I am a descendant of Catherine and Owyn. It saddens me she was treated in this manner.

  • @shellieeyre8758
    @shellieeyre8758 Год назад +3

    It's plain that Henry VII had no intention at all of delivering any kind of insult to Katherine and there is no reason why he should distance himself from her.

  • @baylorsailor
    @baylorsailor Год назад +13

    Wasn't part of what was supposed to be Henry VIII's "vanity" tomb used for someone else's years later?

    • @annashline2209
      @annashline2209 Год назад +3

      Nelson's pink marble coffin was taken by Henry xviii from Cardinal Wolsey. Henry xviii wanted to be buried in it himself but never quite got around to having it worked upon. Neither did any of his children.

  • @lorrainebishop3520
    @lorrainebishop3520 Год назад +9

    Catherine Parr was treated just as badly

  • @SpiritsAndDemons
    @SpiritsAndDemons Год назад +1

    This is so sad. Can't anyone just be laid to rest and not be bothered? This is just down right pathetic, and disrespectful.

  • @caroldriehorst1165
    @caroldriehorst1165 Год назад +3

    How could that happen? It's really disgraceful.

  • @helencheadle5285
    @helencheadle5285 Год назад +15

    Hearing how her coffins were lined with lead, I don’t entirely understand why they would rot away? The wood surround coffin yes, but surely not the lead. Such disrespect to a Royal Queen is appalling….she was surely entitled to dignified,respectful funeral once and for all. Hearing how even her grandson didn’t speed up and ensure a correct permanent tomb for her is eyebrow raising! None of her relatives seem to have cared one jot! And I wonder what was said, or even if they knew about the corpse kissing and relic taking that followed !
    If ever a Queen was going to haunt …it must be this poor Queen, so scorned and abandoned by those she thought were going to be respectful m responsible .descendants. 🙏

    • @HobiCat
      @HobiCat Год назад

      Either the line was breeched/damaged, or if was never properly resealed. The slightest bit of moisture will ravage a mummy. That's the purpose of the lead liner.

  • @vickit7149
    @vickit7149 Год назад +3

    Thanks!

  • @kimberlydavis4772
    @kimberlydavis4772 Год назад +6

    That’s horrific!

  • @beverlybigmore6400
    @beverlybigmore6400 Год назад +1

    So sad a story, it has brought tears to my eyes.

  • @satsumamoon
    @satsumamoon Год назад

    Good grief! Its rare that I cant listen to something like this all the way through because its so horrible.

  • @susierose6724
    @susierose6724 2 года назад +17

    Such a sad story 😢

  • @jaspalsingh150
    @jaspalsingh150 Год назад +4

    It is strange why English queens/kings are not buried properly.Somuch respect is shown to them when alive.

  • @allisonvz7932
    @allisonvz7932 Год назад +9

    What is it with desecrating a woman’s body that is so fascinating? I think of Catherine parr’s body and the similarity of stories. Maybe par for the course how we are treated in life. Even queens in death can’t escape this lack of respect and strange fetishization of a woman’s body.

  • @hymatwat9412
    @hymatwat9412 Год назад

    Very well presented

  • @debskellow5375
    @debskellow5375 Год назад +8

    You would think Henry the 8th would of buried her properly as he was Tudor. I'm surprised he didn't as he thought God's will he didn't have sons while blaming and cutting of heads ,he might have thought I'm being punished for not giving his gran due respect in death and his Tudor connection to the crown was being denied to carry on down the line.

    • @tashaox
      @tashaox Год назад +2

      nah Henry 8th was a horrible man, he treated his first wife so horrifically so i doubt he would care about her

  • @planetearth1705
    @planetearth1705 Год назад +6

    People don’t change much do they.

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 Год назад +4

    I too, feel a degree of hope for the poor thing after you read the unsensational, respectful and sympathetic words from one of the few attendees present at her final burial in the 19th Century. It seemed the least anyone could do for any other human, royal or otherwise.
    The phrase "Requiescat in Pace" is Latin for "let him/her rest in peace" so rather symmetrically has the same RIP initials in both languages. All of that I am certain you knew....less surely was the rendering of it. I don't mean to footle over small details, but since your program carries with it at least the sniff of the suggestion that anything that we can do to make her eternal repose as sure as possible, I do feel it is important to discuss them - after all, it was the neglect of them 600 years ago which caused her Earthly remains to be the subject of every low and horrible abuse for the first 4 centuries subsequent....
    Linguists will, inevitably, disagree on how an actual Roman would have spoken those solemn words but no need to fret over that since the Church has used Latin continuously for 2000 years and certain agreed conventions exist which, while different from how Classical or Vulgate Latin would have sounded, do provide a lingua franca which people across the world can at least recognise, if not, clearly be experts or even conversant.
    It's said like this "Rek-wee-Ess-cat in pAr-chay" although don't sound the "y" - perhaps more like how starting to say "chase" or "chain" but stopping at the "a" either way.
    Also given the nature of the channel, it seems highly likely you will encounter the phrase often and now you can use it with absolute confidence!🙂

  • @gobanito
    @gobanito 2 года назад +11

    She'd be a vengeful very malevolent ghost today if you believe in that sort of thing.

  • @TheLRider
    @TheLRider Год назад +2

    Ours was locked up in a nunnary 300 miles from her home at the tender age of 26ish with her baby daughter and that's where they remained until their deaths. Barbaric. Even now we are not told where they were buried.

  • @kevdimo6459
    @kevdimo6459 Год назад +8

    Samuel Peeps should be renamed Sammy the Peeping Tom, seems he was everywhere in England when something happened.

  • @aimeekiser8531
    @aimeekiser8531 Год назад +1

    What a horrible, disrespectful treatment for any poor soul , let alone a queen. Some of those hideous persons could have been ancestors of mine. I surely hope not!!

    • @susanlett9632
      @susanlett9632 5 месяцев назад

      A queen is no better than anyone else. Having said that this is disgusting no matter whose body it is

  • @Yeehaayoo
    @Yeehaayoo Год назад +3

    Omg,In our belief, this act is a sin for the people around who let it go, especially if the deceased is a queen

  • @a.amanning7631
    @a.amanning7631 2 года назад +5

    Love your channel

  • @jakegarvin7634
    @jakegarvin7634 Год назад +4

    Ouch, they gave her the old Alexander the Great treatment

  • @borwornvisithsueanwattanak3557
    @borwornvisithsueanwattanak3557 Год назад +3

    Now buried in a chantry chapel above Henry the v in Westminster abbey

  • @erpthompsonqueen9130
    @erpthompsonqueen9130 Год назад

    Thank you.

  • @mariamR66
    @mariamR66 Год назад

    My god its before 400 years a go i don't believe great story video thank you so much for the video ma'am

  • @lisapop5219
    @lisapop5219 2 года назад +11

    Eeww why would they kiss her?

  • @candicemonique5927
    @candicemonique5927 Год назад +1

    I hope she haunts everyone who didn’t bury her properly and those who desecrated her corpse. I hate people. 😠

  • @chuckschillingvideos
    @chuckschillingvideos Год назад +2

    Guess what? Everyone rots after they die. Embalmed or not, buried in a coffin with great honor or not. Everyone decomposes when they go.

  • @adasteia6667
    @adasteia6667 11 месяцев назад

    Well, that was worse than I thought. It sickened me !

  • @louise-yo7kz
    @louise-yo7kz 2 года назад +11

    What a macabre business

  • @sherrydickinson5908
    @sherrydickinson5908 Год назад +1

    Requiescat in pace, R.I.P. The last word is pronounced " parch-ey". Thanks, very informative video.

  • @stephengraham5099
    @stephengraham5099 Год назад

    Put together very well but I could have done without the background noise/music?

  • @cemeteriesdownunder9247
    @cemeteriesdownunder9247 Год назад

    new sub here came across your channel and find it fascinating

  • @mangot589
    @mangot589 Год назад +15

    It blows my mind that Henry VIII, of all monarchs, just has a little tile, in the floor, and is buried with a frankly strange assortment of crypt companions. 🤷‍♀️

    • @HeleniqueToday
      @HeleniqueToday Год назад +14

      the royal family has found it to be inappropriate to give high burial honours to a king who was himself ruled by lust and and anger. he threw 2 wives away with flimsy accusations that lead to their executions. murders, really. i mean, really! he created an entirely new church, just so he could divorce & then finally bed the young lady he was planning to ruin next (after ruining her sister!) henry viii will never be given an upgrade to his tomb. he is actually an embarrassment to the royal family. some people speculate that he was head injured after a jousting accident & this lead to the change in his personality. 💔

    • @TheConcertmaster
      @TheConcertmaster Год назад +9

      @@HeleniqueToday I wonder if Henry VIII could be considered the Trump of his times? Although instead of forming his own church, he has formed his own social media platform. But I wouldn’t be shocked to one day learn that he has formed his own church with himself as the deity. Ha!

    • @touger9759
      @touger9759 Год назад +5

      @@TheConcertmaster It's sad to see people suffering from TDS. He's everywhere in your head eh.

    • @MagentaMoonshadow
      @MagentaMoonshadow Год назад +2

      @@TheConcertmaster His followers already deify him. To paraphrase Simon and Garfunkel : "And the morons bowed and prayed, to the neon God they'd made..."

    • @MagentaMoonshadow
      @MagentaMoonshadow Год назад

      @@touger9759 Oh, unlike you, we don't worship him. We're just waiting for Karma...

  • @SyriusStarMultimedia
    @SyriusStarMultimedia Год назад +1

    What is to be expected considering how the living treat each other?

  • @judithmosely5283
    @judithmosely5283 Год назад +1

    Damn... very disgusting.

  • @TerryTerryTerry
    @TerryTerryTerry Год назад +1

    Not even comparable to the treatment bodies get in the NHS.

  • @fredMplanenut
    @fredMplanenut Год назад +1

    How sad.

  • @Saucyakld
    @Saucyakld Год назад +1

    After reading this I am glad I come from a normal family!

  • @excession3076
    @excession3076 Год назад +2

    I think people are seeing this a little backward.
    Her body was treated so badly not because "it was just a body" but because she was a Queen. An ordinary man/woman would simply have been chucked in a grave or a pit, but there is "magic" attached to royalty. If Charles III is anointed by God, (as was his mother in the coronation), then you need to understand what that meant hundreds of years ago to people. Perhaps even to some people nowadays.
    So what do you do with the body of somebody who it was believed has been touched by God through being married to a King?
    It's not as if there aren't other examples of royal remains being desecrated, see Catherine Parr.
    Or remains of saints all over the place in reliquaries.
    All I'm trying to say is that superstition or belief can make people do all sorts of things especially when life was short and not at all certain. Literally death stalked people, it was surest "fact of life" and until relatively recently they was little knowledge of why one died and another lived.
    So perhaps kissing a sacred relic might save you or bless you ensuring an afterlife?
    Stealing a bone might give you some divine blessing?
    Of course there have always been people more cynical who would exploit remains for profit. But if there wasn't belief there wouldn't have been any profit.

  • @iqbalqushairy8459
    @iqbalqushairy8459 Год назад

    It's disgusting the way they treated the queen's body. I wonder why there was no action by religious authority, the Church of England?

  • @lindahandley5267
    @lindahandley5267 Год назад +1

    Rough times.😨

  • @edvard8850
    @edvard8850 Год назад +1

    No wonder that they keep the royal vault off limits to the public

  • @Mostlymid
    @Mostlymid Год назад +1

    This is just terrible. I don't understand people.

  • @mercurygirl8404
    @mercurygirl8404 Год назад +1

    1:00 I mean.. his wives didn't wish to be murdered either but here we are 😂

  • @sheepdog1102
    @sheepdog1102 Год назад

    Sad to hear this.

  • @cmbeaute4777
    @cmbeaute4777 Год назад +3

    How disgusting, this woman should’ve been left to rest in peace! Not even in death are women free from the machinations of men 😢 I hope she’s at peace now..

  • @seye8eyes
    @seye8eyes Год назад

    What a disgrace used and abused

  • @tobytaylor6679
    @tobytaylor6679 Год назад +2

    Wow!!! What cruelty from that timeline to this one NOTHING has changed only difference we have better toys to play with! Nothing indeed!!!!😭😭😔😔

  • @amethyst7084
    @amethyst7084 Год назад

    Certainly a piece of history that isn't taught, and while there are texts on the deaths of monarchs, attention is never given to their consorts. Very glad that Queen Catherine eventually receive the burial she should have in the first place.

  • @SewingBoxDesigns
    @SewingBoxDesigns Год назад +1

    Interesting that her 'first' burial was almost in the Egyptian style. So eventually her treatment was the same as the Victorian era Mexican mummified bodies, now a tourist trap, taken out of their graves because their surviving family could not pay the rent on their graves. All said and done, cremation is your best bet for a good rest in the after.

  • @theenlightenedexchange4817
    @theenlightenedexchange4817 Год назад

    Justice NOW

    • @bouncycastle955
      @bouncycastle955 Год назад

      Are you high?

    • @theenlightenedexchange4817
      @theenlightenedexchange4817 Год назад

      @@bouncycastle955 absolutely not ever heard of gravity? Regeneration of life yeah that part

    • @bouncycastle955
      @bouncycastle955 Год назад

      @@theenlightenedexchange4817 why do you say no and follow it up with the incoherent babbling of a stoner?

  • @Ami_Hime
    @Ami_Hime Год назад +1

    TRAGIC 😭

  • @irishutka
    @irishutka 2 года назад +3

    No ‘disgusting abuse of queen Catherine’s body’???

  • @jessicam9121
    @jessicam9121 Год назад

    It still hurts when I think about QE 2nd 😢

  • @dkpqzm
    @dkpqzm Год назад +1

    People shouldn't play with dead things

  • @merryweatherflowers
    @merryweatherflowers 2 года назад +2

    Anyone else see the face in the tree leaves at 06:18 - 06:30

  • @florjanbrudar692
    @florjanbrudar692 9 месяцев назад

    Henry VIII died 475 years ago
    Also, she was interred in Henry V's chapel in 1878

  • @lorrainegriffiths554
    @lorrainegriffiths554 Год назад

    that's terrible