Thank you so much for not ruining your excellent videos with the overly-loud, distracting and often inappropriate "background" music that so many history RUclipsrs seem to find necessary.
@@debbylou5729This preference has nothing to do with age. It has to do with promoting what is important and what is superfluous. And btw. imo it's not very polite throwing (even if only supposed) age as kind of an insult on a person.
@@renater.540 yes, it has to do with age. The older we get, the more we need quiet to concentrate. That and the fact you don’t understand how to open CC and mute , but would rather decide for all of us what sounds are heard
@@debbylou5729 WeIl, I may accept your interpretation of older people needing more and loving the quiet. But insisting on the aspect of age you throw a second insult around , implying that I'm too dumb to manage my smartphone. Lastly, I didn't tell anyone what to listen to or not, I simply stated my preference for presentation concentrating on the essential.
Hello Allan, writing from Canada to thank you for what I consider the perfect history video--no music, lush visuals, and scholarly content delivered in an engaging voice. Thank-you for the work you put into this. I have subscribed and hope to hear about more of your history treasures.
I think even from a 21st century perspective we can see that the recent funeral of the Queen demonstrated that the monarch does still symbolically embody the nation, and that the elaborate funeral provided a focus for the nation's collective grief.
I agree with that, but I think they need to step up to some extent... they embody the nation but have no say, the queen particularly felt a duty to her people, but never really understood that the people really have no say in government at all, and she probably knew that but, constitutionally couldn't say anything... I think future monarchs just might change that slightly and want to be the voice of the people to.
But at what cost to the public??As that man in Wales said "Charles,when we can't even afford to heat our homes who is paying for your parade?"How much of our hard earned tax dollars go to supporting this archaic,elitist and antiquated establishment.Especially when most of them(even in fairly recent times) have been adulterers?TBH,the only member of that family I have any respect for is Princess Anne,I've met her twice,once in Australia in capacity as the worldwide patron for Riding for the Disabled,where she took the time to speak to all the volunteers(of which I was one) and the riders,regardless of their ability to verbalise or otherwise communicate much.The other time was when I was working for Doctors Without Borders(& many of us were there mainly at our own expense) in East Africa in her role as patron of Save the Children.Again this lovely lady spent so much time with us staff & our patients,and I really admired her compassion when she knelt beside a dying child's stretcher as he breathed his last.OMG,tears all round.Maybe a little known fact to some,but The Princess Royal is the hardest working and most philanthropic of the lot of them,attending more charity events than the rest of them put together.She at least earns her keep.Pity the succession hadn't been changed earlier,or that she'd been an only child and therefore sole heir to the throne.But she's never been one to seek the limelight,still I reckon she'd do a bloody great job.No scandal connected to Anne's name,unlike this new adulterous couple.What's the point?What do they do?BLUDGERS!And next time my country has a referendum regarding pissing off the monarchy and becoming a Republic,I know damn sure how I'm going to vote!!
@@Kim-gv5bw Agree even though I believe monarchies are grotesque institutions. The Queen believed she had a God-given destiny to wear the crown: that's a singularly bizarre thing indeed. It's hard to see her son coming anyways close to her in terms of selflessness and sheer duty, too. It's naive of me, but I've often wondered what the world would be like as viewed from space: no borders at all. Here's to humanity rising to the occasion, if it's not too late, to save the Earth. Pax et lux.
My pleasure Cathy, I am pleased you enjoyed it and that you found it calming. I really like videos that are straightforward and not too jazzy, so I am trying to produce the things I like.
I appreciate the facts that his burial was in no way what he envisioned and that his body is in the floor where countless footsteps pass all about him. What a foul murderer of so many innocents. What an abuser of hapless women who had to endure his pustulent stinking body groaning on them. Britain can take no pride in this evil man.
@@dlxmarkshen you should uld go to Houghton Tower in Lancashire, here's a picture of Henry IX in the hall where James II knighted the Loin of beef, "Sirloin",,he wasn't crowned king.!
The algorithm directed me to your site. This is the first episode I have seen. I enjoyed it very much. Subbed. I intend to search your site looking for this type of account of the funeral of William the Conqueror. If you haven't done it already, you might consider doing it. Ceremonies and traditions are important to any society. Vital, even. They supply a sense of cohesion. Funerals, marriages, Signing important documents, formal surrenders in time of war, promotions, awards, these and much more help us define who we are and understand our place in society. Great job.
I love history that goes into detail about things that were around at the time. Often, we just read about who did what to whom! And, it tends to be one sided at that. Thank you for a wonderful rendition; it feels like I’m there myself!
The fact the monument to himself would’ve literally obscured the Altar from the West wing honestly shows how selfish Henry had become, thank goodness his monument was never completed! It’s so funny that Katherine, the wife he cast aside has a complete mausoleum for her when he has a simple slab
The Tudors were an egotistical lot! Ordering more executions than any other royal dynasty! Henry stole from the Catholic church, murdering monks and stealing all their wealth! He was a psychopath, who stopped at nothing to get his own way! An evil,evil man and a sad time for Britain overall. A greedy mysoginist, who did rule as a king should.
Another brilliant and informative slice of history with just the right amount of fascinating detail! Thank you again Allan. Henry VIII definitely wouldn't be happy that his mass cycle and monument were scrapped! Or his coffin collapsing and showing his bones (and facial hair, truly macabre). It is incredible that so many elements of Wolsey's monument have survived.
@@allanbarton I have read that Henry clung to the Roman Catholic faith secretly until his death., as evidenced by his ordering masses to be said in perpetuity for his soul. yet, didn’t he allow burnings of heretics for proclaiming the eucharist to be only plain bread and wine?
I valued that you spoke of his constant and intense pain throughout his life. And no doubt like all the Monarchs he was under the intense pressure to produce an heir. I've experienced periods of the former but fortunately not the latter. The combination must have been devastating. We know the consequences at a personal level were horrific.
Mr Barton - just an insight for you. The arms born by the Pensioners around Elizabeth's funeral chariot are of her ancestors impaled with those of their Queens/wives. Starting upper left Henry II, below that John, Henry III and then the 3 Neds. It then goes to Edmund of Langley and through Richard of Conisburgh, Richard Duke of York, to Edward IV, Henry VII and ending lower right her father Henry VIII. It would have been a bit dazzling to see in 1603. I admire your work and dedication. Thank you.
Don't remember what track I was following that got me here, but I stayed for the presentation. Very informative with details usually omitted in other accounts. Thanks for your scholarship.
Very much enjoy these lessons in Royal History. Absolutely adore the Royal Family and can understand all the pomp around the Queen's funeral. It was a magnificent sight, worthy of HRH and in keeping with History. Fantastic video, and well made ie simple, no music etc. Easy listening, a big thank you to you Allan. 😀
Many thanks for presenting the listener with a greater understanding of the past, by explaining the customs, beliefs, values and social mores of the past. A proper understanding of history cannot be had without this.
What a strange and complicated man. Today we might call him a "narcissist with a psychopathic personality disorder". Certainly, if he was truly loved, his children would have given him a monument worthy of him. In fact they did, a hole in the ground to be forgotten. His "legitimate" children, were all buried in fine tombs. Even his first wife Katherine of Aragon, is venerated in Peterborough Cathedral as Queen of England, nobody puts flowers on the grave of Henry.
Dear Allan thank you again and for another amazing post. Like someone else noted I have more questions after seeing it. Was anything ever planned for a Jane Seymour's monument? I understand her death was unexpected but she gave Henry his much wanted son and thought there would be something planned dedicated to her, your thoughts please. I am so happy to see your channel is growing, like me, I'm sure many came across your channel after your postings on the passing of the Queen and on the Royal vault. My prayer is that this channel grows far beyond any of your hopes or expectations along with your magazine. Your wealth of information is amazing!
Bless you for such a kind comment, thank you. No he didn't plan anything for Jane at all - she would simply have been buried under a monument that just had an effigy of him. Very bizarre I know and quite unlike previous monuments to kings that usually show king and queen lying side by side.
No other channel, (try as they may), gives us this much insight on these subjects. As an 🇺🇸, in such a young country, w/o Royal or vast histories of our own, I appreciate the research, work and toil that goes into creating this fascinating content. Also, which dispels much rumor, still being pondered and perpetrated on us viewers as truths today. Kat in Virginia
Not the focus of this video, but I think Henry was always ruthless. Even at the beginning of his reign he showed this: he allowed trumped up charges to be brought against Empson and Dudley two of his father’s mid-level men; he did nothing to save them. Later he used similar tactics to get his way with his wives, nobles and commons.
I really feel like Henry is a classic case of Traumatic Brain Injury. When he hurt his frontal lobe in the jousting accident, his entire personality changed.
Henry was quick to dissolve the monasteries and grab the church lands for himself; yet he somehow expected that all the pomp and ceremony of the Catholic church to be his when he died. He didn't mind leaving the ordinary person to fend for themselves during the Dissolution, but they were to say masses for him upon his death! Then, the real church wars began.
In that time the Catholic Church controlled about 60 percent of the wealth of GB. So to take the property and put it in the hands of the government was appealing
You clearly don’t understand the Anglican Church. It varies very little from the Catholic Church ESPECIALLY at this time. He basically just dumped the idea of the filthy rich posing as pure speakers for god…he could do that himself
@debbylou5729 Henry VIII didn't dissolve the Church in England to reform it. Yes, he claimed to do that, but didn't build an alternative for the social good that the Church did.
@@thurayya8905 the social good? You’ve got to be joking. Besides that wasn’t my point. He didn’t remove the pomp and ceremony, only put himself in charge of it
The myth of the coffin bursting open was also applied to Elizabeth I after her death in 1603. When Henry's vault was rediscovered in the 19th Century, a knuckle bone was believed to have been taken and used to make a penknife handle. The marble slab that now covers the vault with information of who is buried there wasn't added until 1837.
@@Anglo-Saxon9 Well the video says that the story of Henry's coffin fracturing from internal gases is a myth. But I'm not sure even the story about William is accurate. Supposedly the only part of him actually buried now in his grave is a thighbone.
@@mcarp555 If Hank was embalmed then he didn't have his organs anymore. That is what would have quickly broken down, so no guts no spilling of blood, etc.
It must have been very awkward to bury Anne Boleyn since he was responsible for cutting off her head. She was killed with false charges (incest and witchcraft) and witness testimony extracted from torture. I wonder if he silently thought about that before he died. Very interesting information regarding Henry's death. Thank you for your research and fascinating video!
Yeah me too. I watched the series the Tudors, watched a lot of YT about Henry and his six wifes, etc, etc. I said to my wife let's go to England. I want to see St-George chapel, and the grave of Henry, I want to see Hampton Court, I want to see Hever Castle, let's see Anne's bedroom, etc, etc, I'm looking forward to that so much.
Very informative video. Thank you for your in depth research. A good transcript of Henry VIII's will, which demonstrates, as you said, his very specific brand of faith, is available in Suzannah Lipscomb's book "The King is dead"
The colored version of Queen Elizabeth I's procession is worth looking up. I saw it by coincidence recently and saved it as artistic inspiration. This line version interprets the details better, though.
How fascinating (and, I suppose, appropriate) that Henry VIII and Charles I ended up in the same forgotten/ignored vault for hundreds of years. Also interesting to learn how the intended elements for his grand memorial were sold off and where completed pieces ended up. I am *very* glad it was never erected in the quire at St George's to completely overwhelm and ruin the beauty of that space.
To fill in the blank for the sort of implied question at around the 18:00 mark regarding whether Masses for the dead are still part of Catholic teaching - yes. If you look in a typical present-day Catholic parish bulletin, you'll see a list of "Mass Intentions" (or some similar wording) for the coming week. Some are for the intentions of living persons, but most of them are for deceased people. The requestor usually makes a small donation called a stipend to help with the parish's expenses and charitable ministries.
Another great watch Allan. I immediately thought of her majesty's magnificent funeral of recent weeks and realised her funeral could in no way be a modest ceremony. She was as the King does now embody the state. I hope that's a good interpretation?
Thank you Allan, a lot of interesting details, the engraved illustrations seem to make the stories come to life. Some fancy funerals. ( retired Funeral Director in Missouri, USA)
Well that got me going at 7:30 to read up on the different uniforms worn (and the name change of the Troop) - from 1509, 1782 1834. Delicious all they way. Am back and listening on with you. *Lovely inspiring Video!!!* 👏🧡🇬🇧
Hmmmm, I KNEW that the dogs licking up the dead King Henry viii's blood was a myth!! Mind you, I can imagine that there were, and still are, people who would just LOVE to believe that the story was true!! EXCELLENT video, Allan, as usual!! 💖👍
@@ThatsRoyal DEFINITELY!! Yet, when he first became king, he was VERY popular!! Mind you, by the end of his reign, he had disposed of most of his wives either by divorce or execution, so I reckon that there were a LOT of people who were VERY relieved when Henry FINALLY died!!
I know I (and others) have said this before, but many years ago, when seeing his suit of armour displayed, the group of people, including myself, viewing the armour, were all very surprised at how small it was, suitable for a man of no more than 5’6”. At the time, I was unaware of the height he claimed to be. The proof of that claim? There is none! The suit of armour currently on display is much bigger. Made to satisfy the crowd’s expectations….?
Henry VIII actually got two chapters in Charles Dickens’ A Child’s History of England. I stumbled upon this e-masterpiece by accident and it’s free of charge, being well within the public domain terms.
While watching this video, I was reflecting on the Funeral of the Late Queen, Elizabeth II. She kept to the Rules of her Position while she lived & they were certainly kept for her Funeral after her Death. She was brought with a Lavish yet Dignified Parade to St George's Chapel, Windsor where she was laid to rest next to her parents & her Beloved Prince, near those who proceeded her from their Thrones to their Graves. May she Rest in Peace.
Loved the video. Thank you. Did they not open Henry's tomb once more in the presents of the future Edward V!!? Some articles may have been returned to Charles 1st coffin? Best regards, John.
Henry was in severe pain after that accident plus he may have had brain damage . He was under severe stress in trying to have a male heir. Because his kingdom may have been torn apart by civil war.
I really think Henry did have a brain injury that caused personality changes, made worse by the leg injury. I had a concussion that really changed my personality, my "filter" fell off and I tend to be more abrasive and easily angered, I'm capable of saying anything to anyone. It's completely different overnight from who I used to be.
@@susanhewitt6359sorry to hear that, strokes do that too, life is harder to contend with after having a stroke, I pray for divine healing, for you, blessings!
Thank you again for such an informative article. I noticed with interest that Henry was shown in paintings of the time, as "travelling " feet first on his final journey. Has this always been such a tradition? Aware that funeral directors continue this , removing deceased from their home "feet first". When did this become a "tradition".
It has always been so in Christian culture. Then when the body is brought into church the feet are to the east where the altar is and where in Christian tradition Christ will come ago. The dead are buried similarly, so that when they rise again they will be face to face with Christ.
The evidence of Henry viii's own words clearly shows his orthodox belief, against that of a developing Protestantism - yet despite this, he entrusted his son to essentially Protestant teachers. This is a first class narrative, aptly illustrated with no nonsense intrusion into the theme.
An Excellent Documentary right to the end. I find the contemporary English out of the King's mouth and the mouths of others very interesting. In parts of Britain still, you have some archaic phrasing. Here in West Ireland we refuse to abandon the plural 'Ye' and why the hell should we?...the Tudors didn't bring us All sunshine but they did bring us English first.
Really intresting. No doubt had Henry Vlll been a reasonable monarch, his monumental wishes would be with us today. It seems fitting that his remains are sealed away literally forgotten.
Just saw your video. I'm surprised Henry's coffin was never repaired or replaced. Did anyone actually consider this? I know he had a notorious reputation but he was still a king... Thank you for your videos and I have subscribed to your channel.
I'm sorry, what? A nine-story high wax candle? Ehh, what could possibly go wrong. Edit: I have since come to the realization, with much relief, that nine story means levels in a light fixture and not levels in a building. I was picturing some massive, Godzilla-sized Burning Man.
Great information! I appreciate your conversational style, and can easily follow your information. Just wondering what you may think of the thought of the possibility that Henry Wriothesly possibly bring the child of Queen Elizabeth I ?
So many interesting videos! New subscriber (from Texas)! I visited all the links...it all looks fabulous! I know what I'll be doing as soon as I get some free time in the coming week. 😉
@@allanbarton I've already binge watched several of your videos...now I'm trying to control myself so I can enjoy and savor the others. Love it! (◦'⌣-◦)
The way this might have happened, the corpse exploding and bodily fluids leaking from the casket, was during the movement of the body. These putrid fluids would be difficult to clean and dogs would eagerly eat these fluids (I have seen it as a retired firefighter doing body recovery).
Thank you so much for not ruining your excellent videos with the overly-loud, distracting and often inappropriate "background" music that so many history RUclipsrs seem to find necessary.
Let me guess …..you’re close to 90
@@debbylou5729This preference has nothing to do with age. It has to do with promoting what is important and what is superfluous.
And btw. imo it's not very polite throwing (even if only supposed) age as kind of an insult on a person.
@@debbylou5729what's wrong with wanting to listen to a story in peace without emotional manipulation
@@renater.540 yes, it has to do with age. The older we get, the more we need quiet to concentrate. That and the fact you don’t understand how to open CC and mute , but would rather decide for all of us what sounds are heard
@@debbylou5729
WeIl, I may accept your interpretation of older people needing more and loving the quiet. But insisting on the aspect of age you throw a second insult around , implying that I'm too dumb to manage my smartphone.
Lastly, I didn't tell anyone what to listen to or not, I simply stated my preference for presentation concentrating on the essential.
Hello Allan, writing from Canada to thank you for what I consider the perfect history video--no music, lush visuals, and scholarly content delivered in an engaging voice. Thank-you for the work you put into this. I have subscribed and hope to hear about more of your history treasures.
Hear, hear as we used to say. Excellent.
@@mitsunori222000 I agree your "hear hear" There are times when the manipulativeness of music is nice to have a break from.
You spared me writing the same thing, from one Canadian Henderson to another…Thanks, well stated.
Sincerely,
JB Henderson
From South Africa, agreed wholeheartedly.
It’s very cool how there are such detailed accounts of what happened hundreds of years ago.
I think even from a 21st century perspective we can see that the recent funeral of the Queen demonstrated that the monarch does still symbolically embody the nation, and that the elaborate funeral provided a focus for the nation's collective grief.
I think that is very true.
I agree with that, but I think they need to step up to some extent... they embody the nation but have no say, the queen particularly felt a duty to her people, but never really understood that the people really have no say in government at all, and she probably knew that but, constitutionally couldn't say anything... I think future monarchs just might change that slightly and want to be the voice of the people to.
But at what cost to the public??As that man in Wales said "Charles,when we can't even afford to heat our homes who is paying for your parade?"How much of our hard earned tax dollars go to supporting this archaic,elitist and antiquated establishment.Especially when most of them(even in fairly recent times) have been adulterers?TBH,the only member of that family I have any respect for is Princess Anne,I've met her twice,once in Australia in capacity as the worldwide patron for Riding for the Disabled,where she took the time to speak to all the volunteers(of which I was one) and the riders,regardless of their ability to verbalise or otherwise communicate much.The other time was when I was working for Doctors Without Borders(& many of us were there mainly at our own expense) in East Africa in her role as patron of Save the Children.Again this lovely lady spent so much time with us staff & our patients,and I really admired her compassion when she knelt beside a dying child's stretcher as he breathed his last.OMG,tears all round.Maybe a little known fact to some,but The Princess Royal is the hardest working and most philanthropic of the lot of them,attending more charity events than the rest of them put together.She at least earns her keep.Pity the succession hadn't been changed earlier,or that she'd been an only child and therefore sole heir to the throne.But she's never been one to seek the limelight,still I reckon she'd do a bloody great job.No scandal connected to Anne's name,unlike this new adulterous couple.What's the point?What do they do?BLUDGERS!And next time my country has a referendum regarding pissing off the monarchy and becoming a Republic,I know damn sure how I'm going to vote!!
@@Kim-gv5bw Agree even though I believe monarchies are grotesque institutions. The Queen believed she had a God-given destiny to wear the crown: that's a singularly bizarre thing indeed. It's hard to see her son coming anyways close to her in terms of selflessness and sheer duty, too.
It's naive of me, but I've often wondered what the world would be like as viewed from space: no borders at all. Here's to humanity rising to the occasion, if it's not too late, to save the Earth. Pax et lux.
It was great to watch, but it doesn't embody me, and I wasn't in grief.
Working people are the nation, not these entitled toffs.
Thank you for another excellent video - very informative & engaging, and so calming to listen to, with no intrusive music or hyperbole.
My pleasure Cathy, I am pleased you enjoyed it and that you found it calming. I really like videos that are straightforward and not too jazzy, so I am trying to produce the things I like.
I've just discovered your channel, and as a fan of history, I am sure I will be a subscriber for a very long time. Thanks for making these videos.
Thanks Mary, it is my pleasure to share things things - thanks for watching.
I never knew that Nelson's sarcophagus was originally made for Wolsey. It is rather amazing that it kicked around unused for nearly 300 years.
It is amazing it survived.
A sound use of the principle of Recycling
@@allanbarton It was made of porphyry: massive, tough and too heavy to be easily moved. So it was easy to leave it in storage.
I knew that and still waiting to use it in a pub quiz. 😅
I appreciated that 476 years after his death, his grave marker was front and center during Her Majesty’s funeral at St. George’s.
I appreciate the facts that his burial was in no way what he envisioned and that his body is in the floor where countless footsteps pass all about him. What a foul murderer of so many innocents. What an abuser of hapless women who had to endure his pustulent stinking body groaning on them. Britain can take no pride in this evil man.
@@valeriestroud7829 That's why the regnal name died and was buried with him. For those reasons and many more, there will never be a British Henry IX.
@@valeriestroud7829 reminds me of the exact Legacy of Donald Trump, sadly, for us and United States.
@@dlxmarkshen you should uld go to Houghton Tower in Lancashire, here's a picture of Henry IX in the hall where James II knighted the Loin of beef, "Sirloin",,he wasn't crowned king.!
@@JJMHigner TDS strikes again
The algorithm directed me to your site. This is the first episode I have seen. I enjoyed it very much. Subbed. I intend to search your site looking for this type of account of the funeral of William the Conqueror. If you haven't done it already, you might consider doing it.
Ceremonies and traditions are important to any society. Vital, even. They supply a sense of cohesion. Funerals, marriages, Signing important documents, formal surrenders in time of war, promotions, awards, these and much more help us define who we are and understand our place in society.
Great job.
I love history that goes into detail about things that were around at the time. Often, we just read about who did what to whom! And, it tends to be one sided at that. Thank you for a wonderful rendition; it feels like I’m there myself!
That is lovely of you to say so, thank you for taking the time to comment.
A most interesting piece of English monarchical history .Thank you Allan for revealing this information that is not
easily found elsewhere!
Thank you very much indeed.
Please, Please make more in depth history videos you are so amazing, from Western Australiaxxx
Thank you - there are many more coming!
Thank you for the hard work that this must have taken! I loved it all
Very pleased you loved it and thank you - it is great fun producing these videos and I appreciate it when someone says how much they like it.
Thank you for passing on all your knowledge, a joy indeed.
Watching in 2024 from West Tennessee. Wonder as always. Thank you for all of your hard work; it is greatly appreciated. 😊
The fact the monument to himself would’ve literally obscured the Altar from the West wing honestly shows how selfish Henry had become, thank goodness his monument was never completed! It’s so funny that Katherine, the wife he cast aside has a complete mausoleum for her when he has a simple slab
Thank you so much for your wonderful videos The Tudor era is a passion of mine I have no idea why
Love this! So glad I found you! Great content!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it!
The Tudors have always been my favorite royal family. I have learned something new today! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
The Tudors were an egotistical lot! Ordering more executions than any other royal dynasty! Henry stole from the Catholic church, murdering monks and stealing all their wealth! He was a psychopath, who stopped at nothing to get his own way! An evil,evil man and a sad time for Britain overall. A greedy mysoginist, who did rule as a king should.
I am doing a proper binge of your videos today. Endlessly facinating.
Another brilliant and informative slice of history with just the right amount of fascinating detail! Thank you again Allan. Henry VIII definitely wouldn't be happy that his mass cycle and monument were scrapped! Or his coffin collapsing and showing his bones (and facial hair, truly macabre). It is incredible that so many elements of Wolsey's monument have survived.
Thank you Annette. No he wouldn't in the least - well he did choose to meddle with these things, the Protestant Reformation was the consequence.
@@allanbarton yes he couldn't have his way with the church and keep the old order of things as I'm sure he would have liked!
@@allanbarton I have read that Henry clung to the Roman Catholic faith secretly until his death., as evidenced by his ordering masses to be said in perpetuity for his soul. yet, didn’t he allow burnings of heretics for proclaiming the eucharist to be only plain bread and wine?
I valued that you spoke of his constant and intense pain throughout his life. And no doubt like all the Monarchs he was under the intense pressure to produce an heir. I've experienced periods of the former but fortunately not the latter. The combination must have been devastating.
We know the consequences at a personal level were horrific.
Yep, think about any decent woman wanting to have to get it on with a now psychopathic, fat, ugly, foul stinking bloke...king or not!!!🤢
Mr Barton - just an insight for you. The arms born by the Pensioners around Elizabeth's funeral chariot are of her ancestors impaled with those of their Queens/wives. Starting upper left Henry II, below that John, Henry III and then the 3 Neds. It then goes to Edmund of Langley and through Richard of Conisburgh, Richard Duke of York, to Edward IV, Henry VII and ending lower right her father Henry VIII. It would have been a bit dazzling to see in 1603. I admire your work and dedication. Thank you.
Don't remember what track I was following that got me here, but I stayed for the presentation. Very informative with details usually omitted in other accounts. Thanks for your scholarship.
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.
Very much enjoy these lessons in Royal History. Absolutely adore the Royal Family and can understand all the pomp around the Queen's funeral. It was a magnificent sight, worthy of HRH and in keeping with History. Fantastic video, and well made ie simple, no music etc. Easy listening, a big thank you to you Allan. 😀
Many thanks for presenting the listener with a greater understanding of the past, by explaining the customs, beliefs, values and social mores of the past. A proper understanding of history cannot be had without this.
That is kind of you to say so, thank you.
I enjoyed this so much! Thank you and look forward to more informative and engaging videos.
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a strange and complicated man. Today we might call him a "narcissist with a psychopathic personality disorder".
Certainly, if he was truly loved, his children would have given him a monument worthy of him. In fact they did, a hole in the ground to be forgotten.
His "legitimate" children, were all buried in fine tombs. Even his first wife Katherine of Aragon, is venerated in Peterborough Cathedral as Queen of England, nobody puts flowers on the grave of Henry.
And yet, he wanted the bigliest, grandliest burial monument...planned by himself, of course. XD
Dear Allan thank you again and for another amazing post. Like someone else noted I have more questions after seeing it. Was anything ever planned for a Jane Seymour's monument? I understand her death was unexpected but she gave Henry his much wanted son and thought there would be something planned dedicated to her, your thoughts please. I am so happy to see your channel is growing, like me, I'm sure many came across your channel after your postings on the passing of the Queen and on the Royal vault. My prayer is that this channel grows far beyond any of your hopes or expectations along with your magazine. Your wealth of information is amazing!
Bless you for such a kind comment, thank you. No he didn't plan anything for Jane at all - she would simply have been buried under a monument that just had an effigy of him. Very bizarre I know and quite unlike previous monuments to kings that usually show king and queen lying side by side.
@@allanbarton the Jan.Seymore reaction is bizarre and shows an unfortunate attitude to women as "vessels" to continue the Monarchy bloodline.
Thanks for another informative episode, Allan!
Glad you enjoyed it.
I just joined your channel and I’m enjoying it greatly. I’m fascinated by British history, and you’re satisfying this fascination very well indeed!
That's wonderful - welcome.
No other channel, (try as they may), gives us this much insight on these subjects. As an 🇺🇸, in such a young country, w/o Royal or vast histories of our own, I appreciate the research, work and toil that goes into creating this fascinating content. Also, which dispels much rumor, still being pondered and perpetrated on us viewers as truths today. Kat in Virginia
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Ditto!
Not the focus of this video, but I think Henry was always ruthless. Even at the beginning of his reign he showed this: he allowed trumped up charges to be brought against Empson and Dudley two of his father’s mid-level men; he did nothing to save them. Later he used similar tactics to get his way with his wives, nobles and commons.
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This made King Henry VIII to be, to use a contemporary descriptive, “Badass”!…
I think it was make or break for the Tudors, he was still trying to cement his house's dodgy rule. He did that ostensibly through fear.
@@allanbarton Historically it’s always done with fear. Be it Sula, Henry, Stalin, Mao or lately Trump and Putin.
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a description that's quite meaningless in the UK.
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Very interesting Alan,keep up the good work
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Love this channel. Been waiting for something like this. God bless you.
Another great historical review, thank you!
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Fascinating stuff, great video thanks. Now we know why the cars are called hearses too!
I really feel like Henry is a classic case of Traumatic Brain Injury. When he hurt his frontal lobe in the jousting accident, his entire personality changed.
Henry was quick to dissolve the monasteries and grab the church lands for himself; yet he somehow expected that all the pomp and ceremony of the Catholic church to be his when he died. He didn't mind leaving the ordinary person to fend for themselves during the Dissolution, but they were to say masses for him upon his death! Then, the real church wars began.
In that time the Catholic Church controlled about 60 percent of the wealth of GB. So to take the property and put it in the hands of the government was appealing
You clearly don’t understand the Anglican Church. It varies very little from the Catholic Church ESPECIALLY at this time. He basically just dumped the idea of the filthy rich posing as pure speakers for god…he could do that himself
@debbylou5729 Henry VIII didn't dissolve the Church in England to reform it. Yes, he claimed to do that, but didn't build an alternative for the social good that the Church did.
@@thurayya8905 the social good? You’ve got to be joking. Besides that wasn’t my point. He didn’t remove the pomp and ceremony, only put himself in charge of it
@debbylou5729 Now you are just making assumptions and arguing with yourself.
Wow that was amazing, thank you, you put a lot of information in your blog and it was really interesting 😀😊👍
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Thank you for a wonderfully interesting video.
@@carmelgrace8655 my pleasure. Thanks for your kind comment.
Thoroughly enjoyed this! Thank you.
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Surprisingly, dogs were allowed in churches in those days. There are many old master church scenes with dogs in the background.
I keep watching your videos, and I am hooked! So much information and presented so well. Thank you!
My pleasure Laurie, I'm glad you are enjoying them.
The myth of the coffin bursting open was also applied to Elizabeth I after her death in 1603. When Henry's vault was rediscovered in the 19th Century, a knuckle bone was believed to have been taken and used to make a penknife handle. The marble slab that now covers the vault with information of who is buried there wasn't added until 1837.
Indeed - Catholic propaganda. Now that is very interesting, how wonderfully macabre.
I thought the only coffin that was confirmed to have burst open, was that of William the conqueror?
@@Anglo-Saxon9 Well the video says that the story of Henry's coffin fracturing from internal gases is a myth. But I'm not sure even the story about William is accurate. Supposedly the only part of him actually buried now in his grave is a thighbone.
@@mcarp555 If Hank was embalmed then he didn't have his organs anymore. That is what would have quickly broken down, so no guts no spilling of blood, etc.
@@Anglo-Saxon9 I too read that his coffin burst, and the dog licked the remains underneath…
ALWAYS INTERESTING, ALLAN. THANKS SO MUCH.
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Good one! The bit about seeing the beard was great.
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It must have been very awkward to bury Anne Boleyn since he was responsible for cutting off her head. She was killed with false charges (incest and witchcraft) and witness testimony extracted from torture. I wonder if he silently thought about that before he died. Very interesting information regarding Henry's death. Thank you for your research and fascinating video!
A great channel! - recently subbed!
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So very very interesting! Thank you.
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Fascinating history Allan. Thank you!
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Absolutely fascinating…my next visit to the UK will include a tour of Windsor and St George’s Chapel. Thank you so much
My pleasure, it is an amazing place to visit.
Windsor Castle is amazing. You can easily spend a day there.
Yeah me too. I watched the series the Tudors, watched a lot of YT about Henry and his six wifes, etc, etc. I said to my wife let's go to England. I want to see St-George chapel, and the grave of Henry, I want to see Hampton Court, I want to see Hever Castle, let's see Anne's bedroom, etc, etc, I'm looking forward to that so much.
Very informative video. Thank you for your in depth research.
A good transcript of Henry VIII's will, which demonstrates, as you said, his very specific brand of faith, is available in Suzannah Lipscomb's book "The King is dead"
That is very helpful thank you, I will look out that book.
The colored version of Queen Elizabeth I's procession is worth looking up. I saw it by coincidence recently and saved it as artistic inspiration. This line version interprets the details better, though.
How fascinating (and, I suppose, appropriate) that Henry VIII and Charles I ended up in the same forgotten/ignored vault for hundreds of years.
Also interesting to learn how the intended elements for his grand memorial were sold off and where completed pieces ended up. I am *very* glad it was never erected in the quire at St George's to completely overwhelm and ruin the beauty of that space.
It would have dominated the interior completely - it was a great white elephant really, like so many of Henry's grandiose schemes.
It would have been an ostentatious and obnoxious eyesore in the middle of a serene chapel.
Thank You for your very interesting and factual presentation.
To fill in the blank for the sort of implied question at around the 18:00 mark regarding whether Masses for the dead are still part of Catholic teaching - yes. If you look in a typical present-day Catholic parish bulletin, you'll see a list of "Mass Intentions" (or some similar wording) for the coming week. Some are for the intentions of living persons, but most of them are for deceased people. The requestor usually makes a small donation called a stipend to help with the parish's expenses and charitable ministries.
Grateful for that. I wasn't quite sure how much had been jettisoned during the Tridentine reforms of the 16th century,
Month's mind and year's mind are still held. Approaching mum's year's mind at the end of this month.
@@natashacoombs3461 we do the same in the Orthodox church. Day of death, the 40th day after, and then annually.
Another great watch Allan. I immediately thought of her majesty's magnificent funeral of recent weeks and realised her funeral could in no way be a modest ceremony. She was as the King does now embody the state. I hope that's a good interpretation?
That is absolutely right, her families instinct must have been to have a quiet funeral, but that was not possible. She belonged to us all..
Fascinating video. Thank you.
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You old church videos and historical videos are very good. I'm a fan of these videos.
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Thank you Allan, a lot of interesting details, the engraved illustrations seem to make the stories come to life.
Some fancy funerals.
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Very interesting, informative and well-presented.
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Really enjoyable video.Thankyou for making it such easy listening
That is so nice of you to say so, thanks for watching.
Well that got me going at 7:30 to read up on the different uniforms worn (and the name change of the Troop) - from 1509, 1782 1834. Delicious all they way. Am back and listening on with you.
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That is just the wonderful sort of rabbit hole I hope people find themselves going down. How fantastic.
Thank you for making these informative videos and for creating the much requested playlist lol
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Awesome info! Keep it up! New subscriber here! ❤
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Hmmmm, I KNEW that the dogs licking up the dead King Henry viii's blood was a myth!! Mind you, I can imagine that there were, and still are, people who would just LOVE to believe that the story was true!!
EXCELLENT video, Allan, as usual!! 💖👍
@@ThatsRoyal DEFINITELY!! Yet, when he first became king, he was VERY popular!! Mind you, by the end of his reign, he had disposed of most of his wives either by divorce or execution, so I reckon that there were a LOT of people who were VERY relieved when Henry FINALLY died!!
A lay teacher in my 1990s US Catholic middle school relayed the myth as fact with much delight so, yes, some people still love that story.
@@dlxmarks I can well imagine!!
The dogs wouldn't have been interested.....
@@alliecollin1748 Nope!! I wouldn't blame them either!!
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@@allanbarton Fascinating stuff 👩🎓
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My new favorite channel!
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I was very impressed by Henry VIII's suit of armor on display with the Crown Jewels. He was quite tall for the time.
I know I (and others) have said this before, but many years ago, when seeing his suit of armour displayed, the group of people, including myself, viewing the armour, were all very surprised at how small it was, suitable for a man of no more than 5’6”. At the time, I was unaware of the height he claimed to be. The proof of that claim? There is none! The suit of armour currently on display is much bigger. Made to satisfy the crowd’s expectations….?
Henry VIII actually got two chapters in Charles Dickens’ A Child’s History of England. I stumbled upon this e-masterpiece by accident and it’s free of charge, being well within the public domain terms.
That is really interesting, I must have a look. Thank you.
Che and il Duce... interesting combination. 🤔🤔
Fascinating as always!
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While watching this video, I was reflecting on the Funeral of the Late Queen, Elizabeth II. She kept to the Rules of her Position while she lived & they were certainly kept for her Funeral after her Death. She was brought with a Lavish yet Dignified Parade to St George's Chapel, Windsor where she was laid to rest next to her parents & her Beloved Prince, near those who proceeded her from their Thrones to their Graves. May she Rest in Peace.
Just discovered this podcast-glorious!!
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Subbed because you where so polite about new subs. Well done
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Loved the video. Thank you. Did they not open Henry's tomb once more in the presents of the future Edward V!!? Some articles may have been returned to Charles 1st coffin? Best regards, John.
Very enthralling. Could listen for hours!
Thank you.
Henry was in severe pain after that accident plus he may have had brain damage . He was under severe stress in trying to have a male heir. Because his kingdom may have been torn apart by civil war.
I really think Henry did have a brain injury that caused personality changes, made worse by the leg injury. I had a concussion that really changed my personality, my "filter" fell off and I tend to be more abrasive and easily angered, I'm capable of saying anything to anyone. It's completely different overnight from who I used to be.
@@susanhewitt6359sorry to hear that, strokes do that too, life is harder to contend with after having a stroke, I pray for divine healing, for you, blessings!
Excellent content! Fascinating! Thank you.
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Thank you again for such an informative article.
I noticed with interest that Henry was shown in paintings of the time, as "travelling " feet first on his final journey.
Has this always been such a tradition?
Aware that funeral directors continue this , removing deceased from their home "feet first". When did this become a "tradition".
It has always been so in Christian culture. Then when the body is brought into church the feet are to the east where the altar is and where in Christian tradition Christ will come ago. The dead are buried similarly, so that when they rise again they will be face to face with Christ.
It is said they carry the deceased out of the home feet first so they can’t look back.
They cannot look back for 2 reasons, mate.
1. They’re in a box
2. They’re dead
@@timsplanet2 Noooo
@@timsplanet2 A witty reply methinks thanks so much.
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The evidence of Henry viii's own words clearly shows his orthodox belief, against that of a developing Protestantism - yet despite this, he entrusted his son to essentially Protestant teachers.
This is a first class narrative, aptly illustrated with no nonsense intrusion into the theme.
An Excellent Documentary right to the end.
I find the contemporary English out of the King's mouth and the mouths of others very interesting. In parts of Britain still, you have some archaic phrasing. Here in West Ireland we refuse to abandon the plural 'Ye' and why the hell should we?...the Tudors didn't bring us All sunshine but they did bring us English first.
Very good. I am rather pleased to find his stolen monument was dispersed to the four winds. Seems quite fitting.
I couldn't agree more - but I do wish it had been completed, what a wonder it would have been.
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Quite a gaudy monstrosity. Too bad his children had other priorities...
Really intresting. No doubt had Henry Vlll been a reasonable monarch, his monumental wishes would be with us today. It seems fitting that his remains are sealed away literally forgotten.
If he hadn't alienated both his daughters there is a fighting chance the monument would have been finished.
What become of the woman he bedded and she had a boy Anne was jealous and told him never to see them again .
Good history information tnks
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Just saw your video. I'm surprised Henry's coffin was never repaired or replaced. Did anyone actually consider this? I know he had a notorious reputation but he was still a king... Thank you for your videos and I have subscribed to your channel.
I'm sorry, what? A nine-story high wax candle? Ehh, what could possibly go wrong. Edit: I have since come to the realization, with much relief, that nine story means levels in a light fixture and not levels in a building. I was picturing some massive, Godzilla-sized Burning Man.
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@@allanbarton you're gonna be too big to reply to comments soon, so i appreciate you taking the time.
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What is the beginning music? I love it!
It’s called ‘The Old Tower Inn’ it is lovely.
Great information! I appreciate your conversational style, and can easily follow your information. Just wondering what you may think of the thought of the possibility that Henry Wriothesly possibly bring the child of Queen Elizabeth I ?
Great videos; I have subscribed; do you mail your newsletter to US?
Thank you Sharon, yes I do - the majority of the magazine subscribers are in the US.
So many interesting videos! New subscriber (from Texas)! I visited all the links...it all looks fabulous! I know what I'll be doing as soon as I get some free time in the coming week. 😉
Welcome, I hope you enjoy what you see.
@@allanbarton I've already binge watched several of your videos...now I'm trying to control myself so I can enjoy and savor the others. Love it!
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The way this might have happened, the corpse exploding and bodily fluids leaking from the casket, was during the movement of the body. These putrid fluids would be difficult to clean and dogs would eagerly eat these fluids (I have seen it as a retired firefighter doing body recovery).
Masses fit the souls of the departed is still a Catholic custom. Very interesting and detailed video.