Could NFL players get all grass fields in exchange for 18-games? | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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For a second there, I was like damn...I haven't seen Gladiator 2 yet 😂
Im surprised a mandate hasnt been deployed requiring real grass and dirt whenever a new stadium is built
I agree- it's about how little bargaining power the players union has. The owners know it'll cost them $$$, so they've resisted it until the bitter end
They should make all the fields rainbow colors to show their pride
Mandate set by who? The owners run the league and everything ultimately goes to their vote.
Get ready for FEWER grass fields. Every time a dome stadium is proposed (Chicago, Cleveland, Nashville, etc.) it likely means artificial turf.
Mandate by who? The greedy owners that don’t want to maintain these fields? The NFL is led by the commissioner…do you know who’s the commissioners boss? The 32 owners.
Owners: Grass?! No way! Cost too much money!! Whaaaa!
Owners: 18 Games? What do will we ever do with all of this money!!!
Overlooking that chicago, Washington, ny are rated the worst in the league because of winter, how does mn work with roll out grass when it's negative 20 degrees
@@nathanabraham4639 I know right? Minnesota, Detroit, Seattle, etc would have to probably build an indoor facility to grow the grass in those temps or be forced to get a new indoor stadium altogether, which is such a waste of time and money.
The owners need to keep investing in finding the safest and sturdiest turf field that doesn’t increase injury risk. I can’t imagine there’s NOTHING well-suited for these players besides natural grass.
@smh0825 mn is putting in turf that has 30% less injuries than other turf.. I think advancing technologies than just saying grass is better when the 3 worst turfs rated is grass..
There's one new stadium under construction now (Bills'), and its getting natural grass.
They should get all grass fields, period. No trade.
Buffalo will look real nice in December with a grass field.
Thank you for doing what you do!
If they are going to have an 18 game schedule the players should've demanded that the rosters be expanded to 60
All grass fields
2 bye weeks
No Tuesday or Wednesday games period.
In exchange for 18 game schedule and caps on individual salaries to combat the runaway QB market.
I think that's a fair trade.
Why would the players ever agree to cap salary when they don’t have to? Market dictates value, rules shouldn’t
@tonyrenghini6273
I think the players would be more split on it than you think. The team cap is never going away. The NFL will always be a capped league. And a cap on individual earnings would mostly affect QBs. Which mean more of the team cap would go to other positions. You don't think all the non-QBs want to see more money?
Amen.
Very intriguing.
Agree with Mike here. Gladiator is one of the best movies I've ever seen.
Since Florio is discussing wanting his monthly paycheck I did a little Web search. Supposedly he gets paid about 500K per season, or about 1/70th of what I believe Tom Brady will make. Anyways if this number is right, Mike gets paid about 42K per month which isn’t bad, which works out to about 10.5K per week or about 1500/day or around 63 dollars per hour or one dollar per minute, even while sleeping, or walking his dog. Not too shabby, as Adam Sandler might say.
Wierdo
This is America. You're living in America. You understand that, don't you?
bro, you will never ever convince me that putting in grass fields is too expensive for a fucking NFL team. they are 32 separate muli-million dollars businesses. The cost for grass would be recouped after like 2 seasons. its greedy and a bad look
Welcome to 2024 try multi billion
You totally sold me on Gladiator...
Players need to push back on this 18 game schedule. Demand two bye weeks.
In Atlanta last night they put bad grass over the bad turf two days before the Argentina-Canada game. That field is a GD disgrace
Yeah, they should pull their world cup games if they won't invest in a good grass system
@@markhenderson558 True. They need to create an actual field with layers of soil, sand, and other stuff for drainage. This temporary field BS that they're putting on top of fake turf won't cut it for the World Cup.
People if they go to 18 game it doesn't mean you're going to have more home games they're going to play in Europe and other countries that's why they're expanding it, in the next 5 years they're going to put the Super Bowl on Pay-per-view
That’s not why they’re expanding it? To go to other countries? That is not why. Money is why. More games = more money from television networks. That’s it. They tout player safety yet make the players play more and more with less and less rest on a turf field that is much more painful and dangerous. They don’t do it for the fans, they don’t do it for the players. They do it for the money
@buddysteele7624 and where do you think they get their money from from the other countries they're going to get TV rights the games that will be played there of course this has to do with money, it's all tied in, here in America we're screwed all the games going to be on Pay-per-view Rodger Goodell is ruining our sport, and it all has to do with cash
I agree the two byes is way better. Shit, I get letters from my HOA if my grass is not up to snuff. Owners fix the fields!
I don't usually like cannibals, but I'll say it. I'm gladiator.
They need to find a point where the talent level drops off precipitously, and then set the roster size at that point.
I don't know 70-80 players? Or are we at that place already? Brock Purdy would suggest otherwise.
I hope the grass fields happen
Love how the nfl acts like they care about safety then use it as a bargaining chip
How about this: 18 games but starting players get a 2nd bye. The extra game is played with backups like a preseason game.
Might be able to get grass in all future new stadiums
Only way it could work is if the players strike around the playoffs after they've already been paid or at the Super Bowl. You have to do it at the most crucial financial time.
They can 100% get all grass fields. The negotiation would be any new stadium built must have a grass field. They could even add in any stadium that undergoes renovations would need to add a grass field as well. Maybe a deadline if 10 or 15 years for all stadiums to have grass could be another way to go, something that would allow the owners to swallow it without impossible retrofitting.
That's not a bad way to implement it. The problem is that a lot of owners would rather have an aritifical turf field so that they can hold a bunch of concerts the same week as a game. You can't really do that with a natural grass field.
All the fields should be grass. The owners should get the players continuing playing a 17 game season in exchange for these fields.
Two points:
- Mike, why couldn’t NFL teams replicate what Tottenham Hotspur have done with their playing surface?
- Teams in Europe with grass pitches all year round do have other events, you know.
Expand to 18 games on the condition that the Super Bowl will be on the Sunday before President's Day that way most fans will have that Monday off. So many people call out that Monday due to their Super Bowl hangover, not to mention kids in school need that Monday to reset a bit before returning to school.
Go with 2 Preseason games and add a 2nd Bye Week... moves the SB to President's Day.
Oh, and definitely need to expand to an 8 team playoff. No team deserves a 1st Round Bye. College will similarly eventually expand to 16 team playoff (too much $$$ left out to not do it). Just stop with the "baby steps" approach and do it already.
DaBears stay hurt but it’s never because of their grass lol
18 games no pre season games.
I haven't seen Gladiator. I'm not going to see Gladiator. I'm still infuriated it got Best Picture over Crotching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
Turf causes a few injuries to be sure but let's face it most injuries are the cause of 280 lb men running 25 mph into each other
I never understood why having a grass field seemed to be so difficult
Hard to grow grass indoors.
@@darryljorden9177 Well, it's getting a lot easier. They have indoor grow lights using LEDs that can stimulate grass growth. It's more expensive than sunlight, but it is possible to do.
In mn it wouldn't be possible
Why don't they just add more bye weeks? Three for each team, space out the season? Who cares if it annoys the NBA?
slide out grass trays won't do much good in areas that have winter. There is other weather outside of southern Peoples Republic of California.
Plenty of grass stadiums in harsh weather. Green Bay, Chicago, and buffalos new stadium will. If they can, others can.
@@johnmiskella9981 I understand that. But if you bring in a frozen field, It will thaw and be a disaster. Outside fields stay outside and ride the natural flow. The cost of retrofitting a stadium just to bring in a mud puddle would be so outrageous that this will never happen. The only hope of all grass fields is to make sure all new stadiums are built with grass.
Sorry, I thought the NCAA WAS the NFL farm system...
Basketball and baseball have a college system and have the farm leagues (G league and minor league) for development.
@@denverosborne3979 I suppose my sarcasm was a bit too subtle...
@@perniciousprogressive8333 lol totally got me
The same guy (Florio) that has said numerous times that he wants competitive playoff games, not blowouts, just said he’d prefer the 1st seed have to play wild card round, even if they have a 20 point spread advantage. This dude is the king of hypocrisy and consistently speaks out of both sides of his mouth and it’s mainly because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s not a real football guy. He’s a drama guy. He loves the drama. If he really loves football as much as he says he does then he would dedicate more of his time to watching film, studying the game, ie doing his job. Currently he sacrifices ZERO of his time to watching film and that’s why Simms laps him up every segment and makes him look like a babbling imposter baboon
Just greed by the NFL, Media Partners, Sponsors to go to 18 games in my opinions. Do fans really want 18 games? I don't think so. Certainly does not promote player safety, especially after last year when so many QBs were injured all throughout the season. It'll probably dilute the product, and a chance more players take off games 17 and 18 especially if their team isn't in it. The only thing I'd say is you have to do 2 byes for each team if doing 18 games to promote player's health I think. But I think the NFL is overvaluing itself and saturating the country/market. 3 games on Christmas? I don't know, it's just too much. The Chiefs were horrible to watch much of the regular season with their offense last year and kind of turned it on last minute. The play has not really been getting better in the NFL, so it's likely it keeps going down the quality of play with more games.
Exactly. The more games you add, the less meaning each one has. Plus, who wants 16 teams(half the league) making the playoffs. Playoffs are suppose to be intense and the best of the best.
I've never seen gladiator or 300
I guarantee you they are both better than Steel Magnolias or 13 Going on 30 or whatever else you've been watching.
@@edwinlujanhernandez6048 Good movie. If you liked that, you would like those.
@@VulcanLogic don't forget about kindergarten cop...
@@edwinlujanhernandez6048 Also an amazing film
Thanks for giving us all this content during the downtime Mike. From one Paisan (half) with a Soso heart who’s also a recovering attorney to another.
How about this idea for retrofit make the NFL not the teams or taxpayers pay for one retrofit per year until eventually it’s done. I know it will take a while but eventually it will be accomplished
I think 16 games and 6 playoff team was better
Does anyone believe today’s owners would risk tv deals etc by locking out?
Not a chance! Especially while their product is at an all time high in popularity
Will nfl players play an extra game to get basic needs for player safety stay tuned
Take away the bye week before the Super Bowl. It ruins the momentum of the playoffs.
I like the 1st round bye for the #1 seed. It makes the regular season more meaningful. But it was better when the #2 seed also got a bye.
Texans gonna need a new stadium if we going grass it be way to expensive and wasteful with rodeo in offseason.
Alot of these grass fields slide underground when not being used. Ill bet they could do that
NRG was initially natural grass for the first few seasons but they had problems with some of the seams.
Easy solution is......Play 18, but no single players is active for more than 16
There are plenty of teams that would start a development program if they could, but they can't. You are limited to 6 practice squad guys and even those can be stolen. There is no way a team spends any real money to develop a player if they can't protect them from being snatched. The NFL is greedy, but they are not this diabolical company so many try to make them out to be.
Also Mike. You are 100% wrong about Sunday Ticket. The NFL could charge a million dollars for Sunday Ticket if they wanted - it's their product.
The day Joe Montana crossed the picket line, was the day the NFLPA lost any real power.
I’ve argued that it would be best - expensive though - if each stadium had a retractable roof and both Natural Grass (NG) and Field Turf (FT) surfaces. It’s possible and I think that the Cardinals stadium, and maybe the Raiders stadium, works that way. I think the NG surface is on top on rollers and can be wheeled out for natural sunlight during the week. Now it would be very cool if, say, the team’s NG surface were in bad shape, they could just play on FT that week. It happens. But you’d have four configurations that way and any city could host a Super Bowl. Naturally this is a very pricey proposition though.
Here’s an extreme idea: expand the playoffs to 8 per conference and give them ALL a bye week except the 8 seed who would host the 9 seed in a play-in game.
I would rather see 8 per conference. AFC plays one weekend with NFC on bye, NFC plays the next weekend with AFC on bye. There are too many games on wildcard weekend right now,
Why do you wanna make the NFL playoffs similar to basketball? It’s dumb.
@@DaveCompton5150that’s a great idea!
@@Mrcharles.I don’t think a little more football is dumb
Nfl needs to get the uae and saudi's involved in football
Nfl pa is trash for not getting rid of turf years ago
They already have a FREE developmental league it’s called the NCAA
Bro turf has nothing to do with legs injuries, u can still have leg injuries on grass also. Freak, accidents happen all the time in football You plant wrong or get knocked into a lot can happen it’s just apart of the game. When the leg injuries start to happen on the grass then what’s gonna be the excuse then. Injuries are just apart of the game ain’t no way around it. 🤷🏾♂️
I have been a casual NFL fan for 40 years, but a much more focused and intense fan only in the last 3 years or so, after retirement. I’d always known of Mike Florio as just ‘someone who is a sports commentator’, so had zero preconceived notions about him. Since watching his RUclips videos, I have been surprised to discover what an altogether unpleasant and miserable human being he is. How did he even gain the platform he has?
Yep in mn negative 30 degrees makes sense to roll the feild out, look at chicago or ny or Washington in december.. those feilds are more shit than turf, rated worst surfaces every yr, so mn wouldn't ever make sense a frozen feild is concrete
The rich guy with the fancy expensive kitchen says it's too expensive to go grass fields....rich people crying poverty for the rich corporations.
A marble countertop and some wood cabinets are SLIGHTLY cheaper than a $100 million dollar field...
DaBears stay hurt but it’s never because of their grass lol