World’s Fastest Off Road Mini Bike Build + RIP | 30HP Big Bore Tillotson!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- It's our Mega Moto 212 Tillotson 263cc ultimate trail bike's first test drive! This is one fast mini bike, and it could be the world's fastest off road mini bike. This Mega Moto mini bike is powered by a bored and stroked Tillotson 212cc engine. It has a 3" bore and 2.28" stroke, a trick cutting-edge billet cylinder head, a 9,000RPM capable valve train, and more.
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Special thanks to Johnnie at Laid Back Racing for the valve train and Mark at Blackmarkit Innovations for the Moflow 1 billet cylinder head!
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Tap the holes in the fork neck so you can put zerk fittings and install a rubber skirt on the ends of the neck and you'll keep 99.99% of the dirt out, and 99.98% of the water and humidity. You can also install something on the bolt to take up some of the void and then when you hit it with a grease gun, a few pumps will push old grease out of the rubber skirts, and a quick wipe and you're ready to ride. Should never have to take them apart or do anything to them unless you choose to. Just a thought.
i was thinking those holes looked perfect to pump grease into
that was the intension of those holes. Thanks to Chinese productions cost cuts never finished the holes with zerks.
I was thinking the same thing. I would put riv-nuts in with some water jacket thread sealer around the insert before crimping instead of tapping the tubing it's self. Threads like to blow out on threaded tubing. I use riv-nuts on all accessory mount points on my bike and they have stood the test of abuse.
Agree
I have literally just started writing almost identical what you said I know you can we did it when we were kids but we made ours are selves back in the late 70s or early 80s
Because of y’all’s channel, I bought my oldest boy a mega Moto 212 and my twins a pair of easy 80s from GPS. These things have been rock solid and my kids love them. Thanks for the content guys!
I am 68 but 2 years ago I had a Monster Moto mini bike 212. I had to sell it because I could not handle the jar to my stomach even on a gravel road with no potholes. I have had 2 hernias so I am too sensitive to it. Not knocking the bike at all in that respect. Just too old to be screwing around on one. 🤥 I do not know about other people's experience with one of these stock but the first time out of the crate the headlight burned for all of 5 minutes. Was no biggie to me but then a few days later while riding down an asphalt road, both jackshaft bearings went out and I was towed back home. Put 2 $30 each bearings into the jackshaft and was good for the rest of the year before selling it. I still think it is a very solid minibike and if young again , I would have wanted this kind of power. Cool bike. Cool video. Now, I need to find a cushy golf cart I guess.... Have fun while you are young people ! 😁
Charles has himself a Grade A ripper right there. Nice build.
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@@jamesfox2857 darn, I was hoping to get a new 670cc drag cart. ;-D
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@@CashLuvGuns respondinng to the wrong comment post to even ask that quuestion
This is one wild hog! You'll see it in action at Mini Mayhem in a future video soon!
When I read " + RIP " in the Title
I thought someone died.
Then I realized you meant rip as in a "ride".
what happened to the dirt hog?
@@lukasboyer3099 Charles now has a dirt drag bike and a dirt hog for trail riding
It's a beast. Now you gotta get a billet crank case for a full billet engine build.
Will you guys be doing another mini mayhem in the fall?
3:45
Go ahead and put two grease fittings in the two holes.
Use non water soluble high quality grease and fill it until it reaches the top and bottom bearings.
Push the grease until it starts to show up on the outside of the bearings.
Water and or dirt will not get into the bearings.
Every time you put grease in it, you will push out the old grease through the bearings.
That’s what I would do.
a Marine grease will work perfect.
0:40 Man I bet there's a story behind that warning sticker on the carb.....
Right? That's what I've always thought
Speed has never killed anybody. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you. Jeremy Clarkson.
Love how the carb says NOT FOR AIRCRAFT USE. The bike still flies! 😁
You guys should dyno Charles's motor at red beards garage
Believe that's a future plan
Lmaoo
I got one of these for my daughters Christmas last year. I added a touring box on the back for her to put her helmet or drinks in, I used a duromax 212 electric start engine and put the battery in the rear touring box So that it’s hidden and up high enough to be clear of any water. Loved the mega Moto 212 frame came together without any issues except the chain guard being bent during shipping, gopowersports took care of that and I had a new one within the week….
Sounds like a speedway bike. You really need more bike for that engine. 🤣
It does sound awesome.
Love what yall do, yall got me into mini bikes, lawn mowers
I didn't know small motor bikes could go that fast that's crazy
Those two holes located on the headstock that could let dust in and ruin the bearings, tap them and install grease zersts so you can add grease occasionally
Be careful. Riding as fast as that bike can go, without rear suspension, can break your back if you ride over a good sized bump. You can compress your vertebrae into wedge shapes and rupture your discs.
Yal also hurt my heart seeing all those nice parts I'll never be able to afford 😭🤣 love ya
Careful now, if you talk bad about a sponser theyll delete you.
Back to budget builds soon!
I’m running the same gold chain and absolutely love it! No issues with stretching or breaking! I definitely recommend that chain!
Also they do sell a purple chain if you do some digging.
So I’m looking at Jon at 25:50, and I could totally see him with a handle bar mustache 😂
Install grease zerks in your Center Triple Tree tube and grease them periodically to push the dirt out I think that's better than tearing it apart every time to clean it out.
Charles needs the swing arm mod on that bad boy! Hard tails are rough!
All u need is a purple chain man and I think you all set 💯💪🏼 dope build that's a BEAST
That’s a DUSTER!! It leaves everything else in the dust! Nice build guys! One of your best!
She's a ripper. Nice to see them put an hour meter on like I suggested on last video. Be interesting to see what kind of reliability a person actually gets out of one of these hot rodded rototiller engines compared to the cost of the build.
Know the feeling… Went from 9 Hp on my Ezgo workhorse, now it makes 72 with a Yamaha Phazer II 480cc lol. First full throttle hit and the wheels are 3 feet in the air… Dotted cotton on that one…
I'm from NYC. What does "dotted cotton" mean?
@@AfriqueNY lmao. Means slang for like “scared the crap out of you.” But you didn’t actually crap yourself… Just dotted the cotton lol. Cotton being your underwear lol
@@frankensteincreations4740 ahhhhh thanks. Lol. I really had no idea.
that engine looks sick AF..! I'm an advocate for a vehicle to at least have 10Hp per 100 pounds as starting point. that bike is going to be fun to ride with 30ish HP. 20HP per 100 pounds i call crazy fun.
naw@CarsAndCameras11
That thing kicks ass and is twice as fast as your kit bike with the 212. Carry on men!!
Absolutely love the build fellas God bless cars and cameras
I like ole Charles, he was a great addition to the cars and camera family.
ABSOLUTELY-----> OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!! 🙂
It was fun hanging out with you at Busko beach. See you this Saturday for a pull start picnic
The pace you guys are at with your builds, when is Isaac Kneivel going to jump the Grand Canyon?
🤣
I'd like to see him jump his pile of car keys...
Seeing as that stem nut isn't the locking type,a few drops of blue loctite around the stems threads followed by torquing the nut down would be the proper way to install that nut unless one wanted to make the nut a locking nut using a dull chisel and hammer in 2 or 3 locations around the upper end...
I built a fast mower and almost ran myself over with it. Started up with it a stuck clutch. It hit a rose bush by the pond. It was funny. Safety 3rd😂
Loving that the CarsandCameras crew is absolutely blooming under this new schedule.
Y'all need to run an oil cooler on dat hotrod !!!
would sealing and putting zerk fittings in the holes of "neck tube" be useful?
You guys are great! I've been watching your show for a long time. Has it been 10 years yet? If not, then it is close! It would be super cool if you guys would bring out a few more of your old projects. I seem to remember a 670 wheelie machine that was really cool.
Anyway, great video. You guys have come a long way!
I believe that engine is now in the Drag Rail
Oh yeah, you might be right. Well, hey, some old revivals would still be fun to see!
On installing the front wheel with the disc break install the wheel then put the brake caliper on the fork. Much easier that way.
I painted a chain purple once, soaked it in cleaner n degreaser, wiped off with carb cleaner, painted then oiled again then used chain wax
That’s nuts. I’m building one now and putting a Tecumseh star HM100 and it should be just over 20hp the way it sits and I think I’m gona love it. Lol
Thing rolls out, wait till everyone sees how much sauce that thing laid down at Mini Mayhem.
You have to try that motor on your Tillotson race kart!
Could you just tap those holes on the steering holder tube and put grease fittings so you can load it with grease. Would be funny to be like hey my name is Charles and i have a mini bike addiction. That would be hilarious.
I think a good "Mythbusters" would be a study of this super duper extra crankcase venting done by most all mini mod folks. IMHO we are adding needless venting. Interestingly, as engine rpm goes up there is less and less gases and air flowing in and out of the vents not the other way around! At higher RPM the flow through these vents is managed more by acoustical function then simple under piston crankcase volume. Think of it this way, the venting is doing very little due to short phase pulse times and when not at high rpm the venting requirements are like a stock motor. These vents have a fair bit in common with how a Helmholtz resonator works in loud speakers moving sound but not pumping air. If the speaker port is too big it will huff and puff air when it should not. Case vents intended function is to relieve pressure changes caused when starting and low RPM, as well as relieving air volume caused by thermal changes. If we needed to keep pressure changes out of the crankcase with every stroke of the piston at 6000 plus RPM we would need to vent with a very short 4 inch pipe. Hate to suggest that removing the opportunity for some brightly colored lines and fancy catch cans and filters might improve things. However I do believe it wont change anything with the integrity of the performance engine beyond keeping oil in it. Increasing the diameter and number of crank case vents will mostly just increase the amount of oil slurped up and allow it to do so at a higher RPM then if the crank vents were smaller. Love your contributions keep them coming and would love to see if this subject interests anyone.
That beast is wild.
The holes on the neck if you drilled tap them and put in Zirk fittings or insert fruit in caps then you could grease it and keep it dirt free
Come to Florida, got a few bikes that’ll give that “World’s Fastest” title a run for its money 💰
Are you racing off road?
@@WyFoster can always be both
Please try out sun F tires! They are a game changer and really dig into the ground, the amount of control you have with those on is a very noticeable difference, I installed some on my old minibike and it stopped sliding out on me when ripping corners
Johns like 10 years younger than me but almost looks like he can be my dad send some of that lumberjack puberty my way brother!🤣 jk John you look awesome 🤘😎
Why were you even changing main jets yet? He went nowhere near 3/4 throttle where the main jet would start to come in, you needed to start raising the needle first to get through the mid range and after that then and only then go on to the main jet.
We did more testing off camera. Think the bike is running right around a 290 main now as it sits. Needed ALOT of fuel for all the power.
@@WyFoster did you raise the needle to see what difference that would make?
@Anthony Hinds Yes, played all around with that. I believe it's on slot 2 from the tip end.
Fantastic choice to start with! I've had a bunch of the larger tire mini bikes and I'm down to 3 mega Motos. 2 older non suspension and 1 just like this. All are head and shoulders better than the junk sold under the Coleman banner.
My main ride has a stage 4ish 212 but I have a 236 to put together when time allows. I put the 75 tooth rear sprocket from an older moto and used a juggernaut clutch. It only does 45 but it gets there NOW. Stupid fun mountain scooter.
Also just noticed the belt is tight. That chassis uses a longer belt than standard torque converter setups.
From memory it's 1 part number larger
Sounds Sick
When you are installing the wheels and axels you should put some grease on the contact point in the wheel barings so you don’t always go through them
That frame is a beast..
That thing is nasty! Great build!
What oil did yall use and did you use zinc additives....how many hours before changing break in oil etc?
I can't wait for Charles to drop his new music video for purple chain 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The world of high end mountain bikes has a lot of technology to offer the mini bike scene. Bearing lubes, chain lubes, calling the head tube the head tube instead of a neck tube. Wd40 doesnt have good anti wearing properties, its closer to cutting fluid and running needle bearings without lube in any application isnt a good idea either lol.
You guys should build another one of these motors and slap it on a yard kart for your next "Backyard 500"! As long as you tune the chassis so it'll hook up and turn, it should be a real beast!
I would love to have that motor/bike combo!!
💡🔩 Great suggestion! Tapping the holes in the fork neck and installing zerk fittings, along with rubber skirts, can effectively keep dirt, water, and humidity at bay, preserving the performance of your bike. Adding something to the bolt to fill the void and using a grease gun to push out old grease from the rubber skirts sounds like a smart maintenance approach. It minimizes the need for frequent disassembly and ensures a hassle-free riding experience. Thanks for sharing this insightful tip! Don't forget to visit Meta Tech HD for more fascinating videos. 🛠🔧
that thing is a RIPPER! what a beast
Wow, that thing can move 👍👍
Neck bearing housing is predrilled for Greese fittings. Then you can pump Fresh grease in and push all dusty/dirty/old greese out
Ditch that wrist breaker and install a 1/4 turn throttle.
Does the CVT have a brass bushing to prevent creeping forward at idle?
The Juggernauts don't use a brass bushing. He needs a belt that is one size larger.
A dish soap bath using very small amount of dawn also works for pre cleaning your belt.
sugestion on the bike for the pipe for the forks could thread it and put some grease zerks to seal it of and allow easier greasing...
@CarsAndCameras11 I don't think so bud.... sounds like an intro to a scam
Im bout to order the MM 212 and I'm thinking I made a good choice! Just got the kid a BT200 X and it's built up and spit out 14.5hp on a dyno, put down on dirt with a juggernaut. It's nas tayyy lol. So 30...gotta be nuts! Good job fellas!
When's the next time you boys coming out to piedmont Dragway? got a gift for you!
Ain't no way 😭 that motor plate standing up to that power
The low speed little throttle the main has little to non effect
John looks like he just woke up from a nap! Nice hair lol!
Almost have me wanting to build something to challenge that 263 build..but it's looking like it's a crazy fun one nonetheless!
I have said it before on this channel and I'll say it 1000000 more times, use a piece of starter rope to install springs. It is waaayyyyy safer and very ease.
They do in fact make chains that are any color you want. Go power sports should definitely look into having some good brands of them in stock
As uncle Dom taught many of us, it don't matter if it's torqued to spec or cross threaded, tight is tight!!! Lmao!!!
Have you guys considered also uploading to Floatplane? You can have my $3/month just for the better quality lol
RUclips compression has been getting worse and worse over time, especially with the foliage when you're ripping through the bush, even at 4k.
Charles deserves a bike of his own and it’s an epic one. Next are the other two builds ;)
That head is freaking sweet
I have often wondered how you guys get your power output figures. Do you ever bench test your engines or how do you calculate them?
they make them up... they dont know how much the engine is making.
Lol not even close to 30hp
To my knowledge, they do not, but Red Beard's Garage has a motor dyno. If you're curious, check them out.
@@AL4N. there's lots of 30hp 212 stroker builds out there. theres entire racing classes with that setup and they are insane engines.
@@matokuroi240 unless you do machine work to any part of the block or head , they do know how much hp each part adds to or takes away from an engine, differences in tolerances can make it 1 hp more or less, it’s pretty close to 30 hp 🤙🏼
I see you got oil on your brakes... over a month ago. What we would do at bike shop is replace everything lol. What I do at home, use isopropyl alcohol or brake clean on the rotor to fully decontaminate. Then burn the pads with a torch (assuming theyre not an organic compound, they have to be semi metallic or sintered) until the pads dont smoke.
That side cover is a beautiful piece and reminds me of the rear bearing plate for my 8-71 blower when had my blown flat bottom drag boat back in the day named the Prophet. Must be fun working in your shop every day if you do.
RK makes purple 420 chain.
Perfect timing in time in do a video on the bolt on swing arm kit coming soon! 😂❤🎉
I'd tap thread in those two holes and put grease niples that way you can always keep it greased and no chance of dirt or anything getting in there
Zamn!
Let me strap an OLD early 1990's era Mugen power Honda CR250 onto that thing and I can show you what fast actually means.
I have one in a 4 wheel cart and it'll do 0-60 in less than 3 seconds.....with pump gas.
It will also do 60-0 in less than 50 feet.
Hell, I have a GoPed with a Zenoah G230rc that will do 55 mph on nitro.
The 2 holes in the head tube are for ZERK fittings so you can grease those bearings w/o disassembly.
If'n I was you guys I would grab a O-ring assortment at Harbor freight and use a correct O-ring to seal the head tube bearings, should be easy as pie.
BTW, I built my Go-Ped from stock, put in a stroker/stuffer crank, bored it way bigger, upped the compression to just a tad over 14:1 and ported the beejezus out of it.
Always remember on a 2 stroke, lower on the intake and higher on the exhaust with the porting to increase RPM range.
I'm getting a tad over 20k RPM with a fluke optic tach as I have no other way to measure it.
Get some videos up bro 👍🏼
Built not bought. You're missing half the point.
That Fulker sounds good.
In an apocalypse this is what I want my main form of transport to be
Sorry to inform you but those holes for tube for the forts are grease zerks to lubricate the fork bearings.
Thank you for the video. I had to change to the same tires you have.
Thank you so much for building a 263 because I was trouble shooting my 263 when you announced your build. Helped me figure it out
how much that cost
@@koopsta69 well over $2,000 I honestly stopped adding it all up when I hit 2k. If I had to guess my build is somewhere around $2,500-$2,700
@@bobbydisco2146 holy shit i can get a used 450 for that much
@@koopsta69 that’s basically what I paid for my R1 but it isn’t about the money. I personally feel that a mini bike should have the small block foundation. So I wanted to push the small block to the limit. Then I found out c&c built one too lol
That dual spacer brake mount is a really cool concept!
That's where you put grease fittings
Just a thought put grease valves in the holes on the front forks and maybe a rubber o ring to seal the bearings
Hey i am looking to build a tiny W8 about 120 hp on gas and 240hp on nitro meth for my mini hyper sports cars. It has a 100 gallon tank. It is going to use forged steel or titanium rods. Use mechanical smart carbs that adjust to elevation. Uses a short wheelbase and 12"-13" race wheels. Does not use chains and uses a forged liquid torque coupling convertor with endless gear ratios. These are for a new mini hyper sports car race series requiring 100 street cars per model to be in the race series. The further development on the cars and all parts shall also yield engines doubling and quadrupling the power possibly in the future.
Nice wide glide front end😮😊
Tap the holes in the neck for grease fitting
You should go see Red Beard and have him put that motor on his Dino!
Hello to the cars and cameras team. I really do enjoy your videos. I am someone who stuggles with learning but by watching you I understand it...
So I'm wondering if you could do a video with showing us what to do when you have no compression in the engine as I have brought my brother a pit bike for his birthday but it has no compression and I am wanting to learn I really do hope you do a video about this please
I also wish everyone all the best
Thanks😊