William Shatner And Lawrence Krauss Go To School
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2023
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A message from Lawrence Krauss for this episode:
I first met William Shatner a little over 19 years ago when we were filming a TV inspired in part on my book, The Physics of Star Trek. The show was ultimately titled, How William Shatner Changed the World. I am not sure what I expected when I met Bill, but what I got was something completely different. After a brief period during which I felt a bit like I was being auditioned, and which I passed after we filmed a scene in which I was required to use a teleprompter to spout a long series of Star Trek technobabble, we settled in to begin to discuss the world, and I fell a bit in love.
Bill reminded me in many ways of my Uncle, who had long been my favorite relative, and the patriarch of our rather small family. His humor, his confidence, his energy, and his curiosity emerged from the crumbling armor he had originally amassed to potentially protect from him what he may have expected to be a pestering nerd. (And which, for all I know, I may have been).
As the days wore on (I think we spent 3-4 together in total), we began to talk about science and the world, and I was impressed not just with Bill’s intense curiosity and enthusiasm, but his native intelligence. Once again, I guess I had not been prepared for that.
A decade later, and perhaps seven or eight years ago, we spent a week on a Star Trek Cruise together. He of course was the headliner, and I gave some science lectures, and ended up doing two programs on stage with him-one on the program, and one more impromptu. While perhaps billed as a dialogue, the provided an opportunity for Bill to pepper me with questions about all things physics, trade jokes, and overall have a blast. I suspect that is the norm. He invests everything he gets involved in with the same joy, and charm.
So, I was over the moon, when after discussing the possibility of doing The Origins Podcast for over 2 years, Bill finally, in a weak moment, I assume, agreed. It took about 30 seconds for the same sense of fun and joy to take over, a deep friendliness to be transparent, and for Bill to basically take over. From there, I held on to my chair and just tried to enjoy the wild ride. It was fun, and informative. I had 5 pages of questions to ask him, and I managed to sneak in about 3 or 4 questions. Instead the conversation went wherever it went-most often to questions about the Universe-and it was one of the most enjoyable 90 minutes I have spent in awhile. It also gave me a chance to reconnect with Bill, and I don’t plan to wait another decade before doing it again. I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as I did.
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Blows my mind how fresh Shatner is, for a 92 year old guy. Amazing and inspirational
Really 92 Jesus
I know, right? Fantastic!
@@allisonorwell4047 Well, that's just not correct is it.
If I didn't know, I'd guess late 70s or maybe 80.
He's a treasure!
Absolutely loved this episode! Shatner is such a great guest to have! Just like a big child in a candy store with an unlimited appetite for all the yummy stuff he calls knowledge. And the no B.S. and don’t care to argue and offend personality also make him so so lovable. Beautiful dialogue! Thank you Capt. Kirk and Dr. Krauss!
It's absolutely astounding that Bill Shatner is ninety-two years old. I almost can't wrap my head around it. He hasn't changed all that much since Star Trek 6!
It's because he was stuck in the nexus. I don't think you age normally in there .
I’m only 23 minutes into this, and I’ve been more entertained than I’ve been all week.
And I’ve learned some things I didn’t even know that I didn’t know.
WONDERFUL !
Shatner is like an ak47 with his questions. I bet Krauss is exhausted.
I despise what the internet, especially social media & RUclips, have done to our culture. But things like this nearly redeem it. Unforgivable!
@@carlodave9 …and yet, here we are🤔
This episode is a full proof and a testament to how much you love and care about Bill. I know no one who would have kept composure in front of the barrage of interruptions BUT that's the genius behind Bill's approach: it really pushed you to go to the nitty gritty. The breakdown answers show how passionate you are about demystifying the difficulty to average people standing in their way to fathom more about our universe, all of that got rewarded with Bill's genuine awe. A fascinating episode from two guys I really think made and still make the world a better place
this was so entertaining! Bill's innocent questions were harmless and funny. Good show!
i listen from start to end and i can only say that my respect for you two gentlemen grows even more. thank you for sharing
I thank the Universe for delivering to us you two wonderful beings. How ever it happened, I'm glad it did. Thank you both. Two of my favorite people, one conversation, equals pure delight. And of course, you left me wanting more.
So lovely to see you both so excited about sharing your curiosity with the rest of us. It’s infectious and it made my day a bit brighter.
Thanks so much for all you do here with Origins.
It’s hard to believe that Shatner turned 92 on March 22nd. Born in 1931. It’s very surprising how much energy this man still has. I chuckled through this whole show, Shatner is so funny.
Prince Edward Island? Holy crap? I live in PEI!! I’m shocked that Lawrence Krause lives here. Well…isn’t that interesting. Wow.
Canadians rule!
well i'm only 69 and i find that making movie connections (what was her name in that film with that bloke directed by that guy shot in what country on which film stock??) is good test for senility. i put it all down to taking an interest in life, not assuming it'll all be soon over so why bother. i'm still getting acclimated to being 17 in fact.
@@HarryNicNicholas I say when you can no longer find your way home that you might not want to venture out. Other than that, just keep going.
@@craighunt6098 Not all Canadians, our Prime Minister wants to turn it into China.
That was a fantastic 1 hour and half, really great talk all the way through, how lucky we are to hear these two bouncing off each other, Excellent thanks Lawrence and Bill
F**K this Captain Turd Shat'ner. Captain Kirk is back! Out to save the planet or as he claims “at least half of it…”. Which half (and for who) we may never know. His words today are as fake, as they were back in the 70s and 80s. In hindsight Star Trek was a super hit and a super scam! Roll back 2007, Shatner's disembodied head floating in space - the voice in a portentous tag line: "And so we take a cosmic ride into that new millennium; that far off reality that is the year 3000. It's the future of man....." Albeit that future will never come to be, just like the grandiose Sci-Fi fantasies of the 50s and 60s never manifested in reality. No flying cars, no “beam me up Scotty” and not even one alien out there! So much for the silly trekies and all the “cosmic rides” of woke futurist fantasy.
Star Trek at it’s foundation is an extension of American colonialism, white patriarchy, made of conservative values and racist undertones. The spectacle was invented in America, however enabled by the post A-bomb surge of science fiction. The USS Enterprise is by all means an extension of American militarism. While Star Trek peaked inside American homes, the empire in reality was dropping bombs over Vietnam, Korea, Laos etc etc killing thousands of innocent people.
Plain Pathetic Lawrence Krauss and this Canadian turd Shatner 😅😅😅😅
What a blast watching these two friends banter back and forth. It reminds me of what I was like when I was 14 and full of endless questions. And ideas. Thanks for a wonderful time.
Great conversation ! And love the fact that "we don't know" is yet the most frequent answer. Thank you both !
The two of you together was wonderfully entertaining, loved it. Thanks
Absolutely loved this conversation. I'm 64, and the past couple years have developed an interest in physics and space. I hated science in school . 😀
Je suis enchanté de faire votre connaissance,, monsieur Shatner! Live long and prosper.
These guys just made my favorite podcast of 2023. ...so far . Science rules! Live long and prosper !
Always loved Bills quest for knowledge. He has great questions and hasn't lost a step in that regard. Wish he would do more narrations I still love the Seasons IMAX movie he did and it was inspiring. Great show! :)
F**K this Captain Turd Shat'ner. Captain Kirk is back! Out to save the planet or as he claims “at least half of it…”. Which half (and for who) we may never know. His words today are as fake, as they were back in the 70s and 80s. In hindsight Star Trek was a super hit and a super scam! Roll back 2007, Shatner's disembodied head floating in space - the voice in a portentous tag line: "And so we take a cosmic ride into that new millennium; that far off reality that is the year 3000. It's the future of man....." Albeit that future will never come to be, just like the grandiose Sci-Fi fantasies of the 50s and 60s never manifested in reality. No flying cars, no “beam me up Scotty” and not even one alien out there! So much for the silly trekies and all the “cosmic rides” of woke futurist fantasy.
Star Trek at it’s foundation is an extension of American colonialism, white patriarchy, made of conservative values and racist undertones. The spectacle was invented in America, however enabled by the post A-bomb surge of science fiction. The USS Enterprise is by all means an extension of American militarism. While Star Trek peaked inside American homes, the empire in reality was dropping bombs over Vietnam, Korea, Laos etc etc killing thousands of innocent people.
Plain Pathetic Lawrence Krauss.
It was such a wonderful and exhilarating experience for me to listen to the two gentlemen having a blast interacting with each other. I couldn't contain my laughter at times when Shatner was interrupting and challenging Lawrence with his innocent curiosities. Age is just a number after all. "Live long and prosper, Captain Kirk." I hope to see the two of them in conversation again soon. Thank you for making this available.
He's such a young man. Having been fortunate enough to spend time with people who've reached his age and beyond, I notice a pattern: all of them, without exception, were young, their minds like sponges, ready to absorb any new knowledge that might come their way, still as inquisitive about the world around them as they had been as children. None of them 'thought old'. I can learn a lot from your 40 years' more experience on this planet than I've had so far, and your expertise too - but there is something humbling in the fact that this man has probably been asking 'why?' and 'what's that?' and 'why does that happen?' for the last 90 years, but he clearly feels he's barely touched the surface in his search for knowledge. There is so much that we don't know...one thing I do know is that I've only been listening for 26 minutes, but already it's been a pleasure. Thank you both for sharing this with us all. 😀
That was a hoot! Thank you for sharing that.
I needed to laugh today, thank you both for this interview.
What a joyful discussion ..great to see Bill’s enormous curiosity.. and your enormous patience with someone you love and admire.. it was fun watching
The very nice meeting you, thanks for sharing best wishes for both of you William and Lawrence the best. Good People.
Great discussion! I loved this interview, so many great questions and answers.
Loved it what a great conversation
Fantastic podcast, lawrence brilliant as always. William shatner, legend!!👍
William Shatner is one of those delightful imperfect perfect human beings; great discussion.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THIS!
What an amazing conversation, thank you for your sacrifices to our planet both of have made your entire lives.
I grew up on things like Star Trek. These are the foundations of my geekdom and curiosity to ask big questions.
Great Conversation, casual, but very informative and inspirational indeed!
What a joyful interview.
Wonderful .A delight to observe.
What a great intro. Thanks you two. x
Loved this thank you Lawrence and William ♥️♥️♥️
Great conversation. I love William. He’s unique and so thoughtful. Lawrence is wonderfully knowledgeable in science.
Thanks William and Lawrence!
This is the best thing ive seen in years!!!! BRAVA sirs! BRAVA!
Outstanding Legends!
This is just superb.
This was the coolest conversation I had the pleasure to view
A lively and enjoyable conversation. Shatner is very sharp for his age.
What a great conversation
You two should take it on the road.
I had more than a few good laughs during this, but even better was that the Captain asked some clever questions that I didn’t have enough cleverness (or ignorance?) to know that I should be asking.
Fabulous interview, I would say it was a shame I didn't get to learn about Shatner's origins but the physics questions are so fascinating to me that it didn't matter! Plus it, was a physics discussion on my level. Thank you both xx
Dear Lawrence Krauss, Thank you for inviting Mr. Shatner onto your Podcast. I like you view Mr. Shatner as a Father / Uncle Figure in my life. I have seen Mr. Shatner in person several times during my life. The Characters he has portrayed throughout his career from Captain Kirk to Denny Crane have inspired and entertained me and my family. The Big Bang which created the Universe we live in must have been generated by some greater external force, i.e. GOD. I wish you and especially Mr. Shatner many more years of good health and happiness! Best Regards.
Good stuff, thanks for this.
People are afraid to ask questions because they don't want to look stupid. But asking genuine questions actually makes you look smarter.
Bill Shatner is a total player and an inspiration
“The acquisition of knowledge is the voyage of humanity.” William Shatner
Shatner is great. Good convo and fun.
Such an informative podcast.
Aww, the ending was touching. Bill has the enthusiasm of a child, but you can't even finish a response lol! Great episode
what a happy double act - fantastic
Best conversation I have ever been part of, I say part of because that's how I feel..Who needs the paranormal,.when you have physics,.
This is absolutely fantastic, Thank you Gentlemen.
F**K this Captain Turd Shat'ner. Captain Kirk is back! Out to save the planet or as he claims “at least half of it…”. Which half (and for who) we may never know. His words today are as fake, as they were back in the 70s and 80s. In hindsight Star Trek was a super hit and a super scam! Roll back 2007, Shatner's disembodied head floating in space - the voice in a portentous tag line: "And so we take a cosmic ride into that new millennium; that far off reality that is the year 3000. It's the future of man....." Albeit that future will never come to be, just like the grandiose Sci-Fi fantasies of the 50s and 60s never manifested in reality. No flying cars, no “beam me up Scotty” and not even one alien out there! So much for the silly trekies and all the “cosmic rides” of woke futurist fantasy.
Star Trek at it’s foundation is an extension of American colonialism, white patriarchy, made of conservative values and racist undertones. The spectacle was invented in America, however enabled by the post A-bomb surge of science fiction. The USS Enterprise is by all means an extension of American militarism. While Star Trek peaked inside American homes, the empire in reality was dropping bombs over Vietnam, Korea, Laos etc etc killing thousands of innocent people.
Plain Pathetic Lawrence Krauss and this Canadian turd Shatner 😅😅😅😅
The acquisition of knowledge is the voyage of humanity. - you heard it here first. -- Thank you, Mr. Shatner.
I just love you both. Absolutely.
Legend!
Love This!
Awesome!! 🎉
Entertaining and thoughtful discussion.. thank you 💡 “The acquisition of knowledge is the voyage of humanity.” -William Shatner
F**K this Captain Turd Shat'ner. Captain Kirk is back! Out to save the planet or as he claims “at least half of it…”. Which half (and for who) we may never know. His words today are as fake, as they were back in the 70s and 80s. In hindsight Star Trek was a super hit and a super scam! Roll back 2007, Shatner's disembodied head floating in space - the voice in a portentous tag line: "And so we take a cosmic ride into that new millennium; that far off reality that is the year 3000. It's the future of man....." Albeit that future will never come to be, just like the grandiose Sci-Fi fantasies of the 50s and 60s never manifested in reality. No flying cars, no “beam me up Scotty” and not even one alien out there! So much for the silly trekies and all the “cosmic rides” of woke futurist fantasy.
Star Trek at it’s foundation is an extension of American colonialism, white patriarchy, made of conservative values and racist undertones. The spectacle was invented in America, however enabled by the post A-bomb surge of science fiction. The USS Enterprise is by all means an extension of American militarism. While Star Trek peaked inside American homes, the empire in reality was dropping bombs over Vietnam, Korea, Laos etc etc killing thousands of innocent people.
Plain Pathetic Lawrence Krauss and this Canadian turd Shatner 😅😅😅😅
In 1996 a little pocketbook called The science of Star Trek (i have it in Dutch so the title could be slightly off) pulled me into this wonderful scientific adventure, this talk feels like its all coming together again :) Really enjoyed it, lots of curiousity and positive energy!
Smootches to you both!
Thank you. :)
dr lawrence always a pleasure to see you and ahaha dhantner is my candian fellow men
Mr Shatner is hilarious , very inclusive. I bet he's great host, I'm sure good times would be had.
I love him so much! ❤
It's so nice to hear this wonderful actor and a legendary star of the Star Trek franchise talking about my home country - Lithuania which he also has roots in. I remember his visit to Lithuania and was proud to discover that Mr. Shatner had Lithuanian ancestry.
And BTW, Hermann Minkowski was also born in Lithuania (then occupied by Russia - yes, that damn country was always capable of just this one thing).
I wanted to thank you for the years of education, and entertainment. I listen to you like ive listened to Hitch. Not just for enlightenment. We all have unhappy and emotional times in our lives. Listening to you provided a comfortable escape. Your happy upbeat command of the english language and french lol put me in a better place. In a roundabout way believe it or not your a bit like Jordan P.
Thank you :)
thank you.
Both of these guys are two of my heros!
This conversation is really fun.
Good work son, legends both.
Shatner looks like he will go on forever. All power to him.
Reminds me of me having a zoom call with my uni professor 😃 me questioning literally EVERYTHING, my professor then trying to draw the outlines of knowledge but then me coming in again with even more questions in the attempt to burst these outlines and discover new frontiers of knowledge...🚀
Great talk very interesting and fun. .
Wow. One more reason to love William Shatner! Witty, smart and very alert. Never would guess his age today.
This guy looks great for 92 yrs old ! What ever hes doing sign me up !!.
@56:30 When Krauss says "As is my argument" was a witty reaction to Shatner's incessant asking of new questions before listening to the previous question's explanation.
brilliant
Wonderful to watch you two talk science 🙂
Great conversation, and it's hard to believe William Shatner is 92.
Gotta say that the start of the video is immaculate and miss clicked to this video by accident.
I have read some Lawrence Krauss so happy accident.
Mr Shatner you are a joy x
Mr. Shatner votre français est merveilleux... and you have beautiful souvenirs... I also lived on Marcil, beautiful part of town... This podcast is great, bravo
Ex Montrealer here, i did know he speaks French.
Je ne savais pas que il parle francais. Je suis content que il sympathize avec les quebecois
Someone should give that young man a show ! Something in space...
Isn’t friendship amazing. Great talk guys.🤔🥰
Put a smile on my face.
Bill S. "Wait. Wait a minute. What the hell...?". lol. Great chat. Only thing missing was the beer.
92 years old that's incredible
He doesn't move like a person in their 90's. A person that old can deteriorate suddenly or keep living for another decade.
I worked with BS a couple of times. He is a CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL and a wonderful man.
He is one of the most creative people I’ve ever worked with.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
F**K this Captain Turd Shat'ner. Captain Kirk is back! Out to save the planet or as he claims “at least half of it…”. Which half (and for who) we may never know. His words today are as fake, as they were back in the 70s and 80s. In hindsight Star Trek was a super hit and a super scam! Roll back 2007, Shatner's disembodied head floating in space - the voice in a portentous tag line: "And so we take a cosmic ride into that new millennium; that far off reality that is the year 3000. It's the future of man....." Albeit that future will never come to be, just like the grandiose Sci-Fi fantasies of the 50s and 60s never manifested in reality. No flying cars, no “beam me up Scotty” and not even one alien out there! So much for the silly trekies and all the “cosmic rides” of woke futurist fantasy.
Star Trek at it’s foundation is an extension of American colonialism, white patriarchy, made of conservative values and racist undertones. The spectacle was invented in America, however enabled by the post A-bomb surge of science fiction. The USS Enterprise is by all means an extension of American militarism. While Star Trek peaked inside American homes, the empire in reality was dropping bombs over Vietnam, Korea, Laos etc etc killing thousands of innocent people.
Plain Pathetic Lawrence Krauss and this Canadian turd Shatner 😅😅😅😅
BS was supposesly extremely disrespectful and unkind to Will Wheton on set. Will idolized Bill and Bill treated him like a worthless criminal. See the video by Will online. I wish BS would apologize to the people he mistreated in his past.
Bills new book written by Josh Brandon is fantastic.
love you, guys
Wow I've been watching Shatner since the 70's, I'm a few years younger than Krauss. Bill hardly looks older than me, it's amazing he's over 90. I understand he does a lot of hard work with horses. I'm happy to see Bill here as himself but I don't think I'd want to meet him. He's easily going to top 100, how many more years he gets past that, who the hell knows. Bill's definitely one of the healthier, luckier outliers. Hope you get many more years of entertaining us, Bill. To both Bill and Larry, live long and prosper. Good show, guys.
Right? 23 minutes in with Shat and disbelief is suspended. He's such a well of emotion I'm sure it's both frustrating and fulfilling at the same time. That conflict while tiring creates lasting memories. A good acting class or military training course is like that, constantly bombarding you with problems to solve in their space, not a comfortable space. I doubt people would forget this episode. It's invigorating. Also happy 69 Lawrie.
Good on Shatner for reacting to the insane statement about origins.
What'ta a pair of talkers. So witty and intelligent for 69 and 90, years old.
hahahaha Lawrence caught Shatner in the "what is nothing" old trap! 😂😂😂
Mr.Shatner THE Captain...
Looks GREAT.
Join us in this episode of inception awake! So much gratitude!!