Metamorphosis 4x04 - Best Scene (Sam confronts Dean)
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2009
- One of the best scenes in Supernatural history from Supernatural Season 4, Episode 4 "Metamorphosis"
Dean has just found out about Sam's secret 'mission' with Ruby (he's exorcicing demons with his mind) and the video shows their first confrontation right after Dean ran away to clear his head.
The acting in this scene is phenomenal and it shows once again that Supernatural wouldn't be half as amazing if it weren't for Jensen and Jared. The chemistry between those two is what basically brings the show to life. 
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You're right, these two have an incredible chemistry that I haven't seen between two actors in a show for a long time.
If ever!
Oh and the way Sam just submits to his brother's slaps without even an angry scowl I just CANT my heart hurts
Say what now
He needed to get his butt whooped a little I mean don’t we all 😂
Ok but tbf Sam gets back at him when he wants to k!ll himself and Dean won’t listen to him
The way he makes the line "I was here," sound like "I was in hell". JARED. THE ACTING. THE RANGE
Sams little puppy dog eyes are heartbreaking. Crap this whole scene is heartbreaking :(.
I love how Dean's voice echoes after he screams "WITH YOUR MIND".
If you think about it... this must've hurt both the brothers equally. And I don't really mean the physical part here, hell, they must've already got used to it.
I mean that Sam has to be for once SO sorry but also feel so bad when he gets hit by hos own brother! And Dean, well... of course he feels betrayed but there's something about the hit itself. We all remember how mad he gets when somebody even just threatens to hurt Sam, so hurting his little brother himself... As angry as he might be and as right this might seem in the moment, I bet he feels every hit like it's him being beaten...
Oh, and shoutouts to J2 for completely nailing the realtionship of these brothers!:D
while I agree that Jensen Ackles is a great actor and does an amazing job as Dean, I think that Jared Padalecki is underappreciated in this series. Sam has to emote constantly and show everything on his face. I think that's a harder thing especially when it can fall into melodrama very easily. Plus, when he plays Lucifer in season 5, he is crazy good. There is NO trace of Sam anywhere.
So no one's going to talk about the fact that dean almost made Sam cry before answering the phone. My poor baby was trying to hold back his tears and hide his chocked up voice on the phone.
Vere yes yes 😭
Why is it Dean's fault? He knew it was wrong but hey it made him stronger. Strong people can accept the truth
I agree that it was sad when Sam was about to cry, but when he got off the phone, it kind of looked to me like Dean was about to cry too. The look on their faces in this scene breaks my heart every time. It always makes me wanna cry. 😭😭
@Nicole Salmon, Dean is being a complete bigot at this point. He's attacking Sam purely based on the fact that Sam is using his powers, to help people. He doesn't know about the demon blood yet, so he's basically just deciding that the powers are evil just because he said so, because they are supernatural in origin, like that's more important that what the powers are being used for. He knows that Sam has issues with being a "monster" and he still tells Sam he would want to hunt him. That's nothing but cruel.
" my poor baby " ? Don't you think that this is a little creepy ? lol.
Thank you! That is exactly how I feel. People are so quick to blame Sam for everything. Is he 100% innocent? No. But neither is Dean. Some people just see it as a black or white issue, while there is a huge gray area that is being ignored.
Ok thank you bc I’m a dean girl but I can admit when he does bad things. Like I love them both but they do some pretty shitty shit to one another and the world.
They both have had their fair share of doing things they shouldn't.
Don't know why I realise it only now, but the fact that Jared & Sam are really really different people shows how good jared is o.ô haha
I’m gonna be honest, I miss the use of blood in the past seasons. I feel like with the newer seasons, it’s like “Sam is throw across the room and punched many times” but he has no blood or anything. It’s more realistic with a split lip
The fact that Dean was right about Ruby all this time and Sam chose ruby over him. Makes me sad every time.😓
+MrYrualive they should of killed meg a long time ago, she is responsible for the deaths of jo and ellen
+MrYrualive and i also believe they should of killed both of them a long time ago as well, they should of killed crowley, he's a demon and lets be honest, whether a demon tries to be nice or not they still have done horrible things and need to be destroyed, castiel should of killed as soon as they found out about his plan to pop purgatory
Meh, I've always kind of had issues with people saying that Sam chose Ruby over Dean. Sam actually wanted Dean to work with him and Ruby. In "In the Levee Breaks" it was Dean who chose not to go with Sam if Ruby came along, so in a way you could also interpret that scene as Dean putting Ruby over Sam, in the sense that the issue of Sam working with Ruby was more important to Dean than any other part of Sam. He literally could not see past it. Not saying he didn't have good reasons for not trusting Ruby or that his desire to get Sam away from Ruby wasn't understandable, but from Sam's point of view, he needed Ruby and it was Dean who chose not to go with them if she came along. Dean chose his issues concerning Ruby over Sam.
yeh maybe because he could see that she was evil from the get-go, which she was. i wouldnt want to work with her either given the choice, sam could of went with dean could he not? but he chose to go with ruby instead and gave dean the ultimatum that he cant leave ruby as well so...
It was Dean who gave the ultimatum. "Her or me." That's an ultimatum. Dean can work with demons if it benefits him (Crowley) so his attitude about Ruby and Sam was kind of hypocritical.
Technically Dean was right but he's so short sighted I couldn't help but agree with Sam. Plus if it wasn't for Dean's bullshit Sam probably never would have gotten as bad as he did.
I agree that Dean can seem a little closed minded when it comss to anything supernatural, but how exactly was Dean's fault that Sam's condition got that bad? If anything it's Sam's fault that after his brother obviously being very mad and scared for him at a time, he went on with that demon blood bullshit... It was bound to get out of control as soon as it started and Dean knew it. And he was right.
The way he was acting was so immature. I know he was right but everytime i watch the scene i automatically side with Sam because Dean is being super irrational and has a lack of understanding. I think Dean was what really pushed Sam over the edge and led him to addiction. And obsession to prove to Dean that he CAN help people with it and it ended in the worst way possible. Its sad but i still blame Dean. He pushed him way too hard
@@janiahpapaya5988 I see your point and there's definitely truth in it. Dean was always looking out for Sam so he wanted to feel independent and do sth right without Dean's help and I get that.
Later in the beginning of season 5 he says how the biggest reason he went with Ruby was because he didn't like being so dependent on Dean. So he made a mistake here because he wasn't rational, he was looking to do sth that was in HIS best interest, at a time he didn't exactly think about how Ruby might actually help him.
I'm not blaming Sam, but I'm not blaming Dean either. It's a matter of point of view - both Dean and Sam had good and valid, but also some irrational, points - in Dean's case he was more irrational but even though people say that's just because he is bigoted about demons/other spn creatures (that's just a small part of his reasons), it's mostly because he was scared and worried about Sam. All he ever does is for Sam's safety, and sometimes that can be selfish not only to the others but Sam himself too. Let's not forget that John told Dean that he might have to kill Sam, so that was also in Dean's head while handling the whole situation.
Since Sam and Dean disagreed on trusting Ruby and using Sam as a weapon against Lilith, Sam tried hard to make Dean understand that he was doing what's right and the only way to do that was to actually stop the apocalypse. Even if Dean was supportive or less against the whole thing, Sam would still have to drink an enormous amount of demon blood which would still result in an addiction. So yes, maybe the whole Dean not being supportive was sth that triggered Sam in a bad way, but it's a fact that he would still become addicted.
The thing I didn't like about the way Dean handled it all was definitely how he wasn't exactly rational, but since he (his gut) was right about Ruby, I can't hold that against him.
Dean was always saying how Sam shouldn't trust Ruby because she's a demon - yes okay, the main reason he didn't trust her was the fact that she's a demon, but it's not like they ever encountered a friendly helpful demon until that point and I can respect him being against Sam working with her.
What I didn't like about the way Sam handled it all was choosing his own interest of not feeling helpless and dependent, thus not listening to Dean when he said they shouldn't trust Ruby. Ruby is a master manipulator and she sorta earned Sam's trust a lot of times so at the end of the day it's reasonable that later Sam didn't think about her actually lying to him, but I still think he should've thought more about Dean constantly telling him not to be with her.
In the end I think they both had good reasoms for doing what they did, only the final scene where they fight they said and did some stuff that shouldn't be said (mostly Dean, but he said it in order trigger Sam back to "sanity").
I really don't get people who blame just Sam or just Dean for everything in the situation, because it's pretty complex, but on the other hand when you just take all the factors into consideration it really wasn't anybody's fault, it was just different personalities and different ways of handling certain situations that created a mess from the whole thing.
Tara G I agree and im not saying it was all Dean’s fault, Sam was still very naive. I do remember one thing that annoyed me was Dean’s superhero complex. He always thought he had to be the one to die to save everyone or to for example fight Lillith. Its noble but so controlling that it got annoying like your brother has the power to send her back but instead of opting to work together its a fight of who does it first? I think personally I just dont like Dean so maybe thats why i see his flaws so much clearer. I dont really know
@@janiahpapaya5988 I didn't think you thought it was all his fault, I just wrote that at the end in general :)
But yes usually when we're not big fans of not only fictional characters but also people irl, we see their flaws easily and when we love someone it's harder to see their flaws. I'm a big fan of Dean's character but I'd say that I really do acknowledge his flaws and bad actions and that I don't justify them when they shouldn't be justified.
Also I completely agree about his superhero complex. It's what I was saying about his actions actually being kinda selfish but also selfless at the same time? Lol idk.
But yeah, in short it really depends on how you look at the situation, so naturally someone who likes Sam better will side with him and the sam thing with Dean because in this particular situation, like I said, they both had good points. I was really indifferent, more accurately I was on both sides.
He was not addicted to demon blood at that point. He was not even using it, regularly. He did not get addicted till after he started using it regularly after he agreed to go back to working with Ruby 2.
Strong body, fragile soul... Monster Sammy is more human than any person but hell is paved with good intentions..
Season four was a pretty tough one for the brothers. I consider myself more a Dean fan, but because Sam seemed so honestly sure of himself and of his good intentions, I sided with the idea that Dean shouldn't have been so harsh, should've looked at it from another angle. Still didn't think the demon blood was a good idea though, the whole 'path to hell is paved with good intentions' and all that. I was rather surprised when it was more or less revealed Dean was pretty spot on with his thinking for the most part, but still. Damn good acting at least.
+Hakureii i feel like season 4 was the best season acting-wise, so many powerful scenes like this one
Dean might have been right about the end result (even though he had no actual idea about what would happen) but he was wrong about his approach. He never tried to understand Sam's point of view. If he had shown a little more understanding and a little less judgment, and not made ultimatums about Ruby, things might have ended very differently.
I hate how Dean hitting Sam is okay to the fandom, but if Sam defends himself, it's wrong and he's ungrateful. Bullshit.
I know right... we see dean hit sam so many times just because he doesnt agree with what hes doing. if sam did the same the fangirls would flip shit...
Maybe because he's the oldest... Which means he's always right!😜 no seriously maybe that's because Dean cares way too much for Sam and when he hits him it shows that he's really mad at him! And apparently he has every right to be!
+Nadia But being mad doesn't make hitting someone okay. The way he reacted in this scene was wrong, you are not going to convince someone if you are just mean to them, it doesn't work like that, to solve a problem you have to talk to the other person, something that Dean not always understand.
+The-LittleFangirl well Dean never acts in a healthy way, does he?😉 I think it was mostly because Dean saw that what sam was doing was wrong and that's what made him angry so he punched him so he could get a little over it! Or else he would just leave him.
Do you have siblings? This is exactly how elder brothers and sisters react when the youngest do the shit. Sure I'm not punching my sister like Dean punched Sam but it happened once I slapped my sister because I was mad at her. I'm just trying to say that this is the way how elder siblings show they care for their brothers and sisters. I admit it's not healthy but eventually they got the message for the next time. As for Sam and Dean, Dean in this season had every right to be mad at Sam.
You summed this up so perfectly!!! Another thing was, I liked how they made this story line about addiction as well. An underlying story here was when 1 family member is going through an addiction and the other doesn't understand it and they just expect the addiction to stop and go away. That was how Dean was with Sam. He just wanted him to stop drinking the demon blood, but he was addicted, and Dean didn't get that.
That was the first time Dean said Cas instead of Castiel
I love this scene, grips me from when Dean walks in (you just know he is really angry) to him saying that God doesn't like what Sam is doing. I think Sam's about to cry too when that phone call comes! Phenomenal acting by my 2 new obsessions!!!
Dean's punch - terrific J2 acting - natural n mind blowing Looks wise -sexy show-superhit idea of the show really unique in short hats off to whole crew
+ishita koul has nobody else noticed how amazing of actors they really there with punching, when you actually look at other punching/fighting scenes, the hits look very fake and you can tell it is, but with them the punches look so real
Wow I love this scene! Right from the moment when Dean comes in the door, & you know he is really angry, to the end with Dean saying God wouldn't want you to do this, it is fantastic acting!! Sam was just about holding back his tears when the nicely timed phone call came!
Great acting, great scene!
Amazing scene. Jared and Jensen play these characters so well. We know them, yet there will be a moment or a scene when another subtle aspect of the Sam or Dean emerges adding yet more nuance to their persona and their relationship. I can't remember but this scene is before it is revealed to Dean that he, in fact, was responsible for breaking the First Seal of The Apocalypse when he was in Hell. Supernatural is still good but the 1st 5 seasons are classics. This scene shows why.
The thing that really bothers me is that when Sam worked with a demon it all got fucked up, but when Team Free Will worked with Crowley, another demon, it actually got the work done :( Unfair much?
because them and crowley was clearly on the same page, unlike ruby, he fooled sam to kill lilith, thus breaking another seal
@hakuna matata, except for when Crowley manipulated Dean into taking on the Mark of Cain, knowing it would eventually turn Dean into a demon, but neglected to tell Dean that? Or when he lied to Sam and Dean about being the one who had raised Sam from hell and that he would give Sam's soul back if they hunted alphas for him? I agree with never witch, this show has always tried so hard to make everything Sam's fault, and it is unfair.
For example: Dean is upset with Sam for not looking for him when he was in Purgatory, even though Sam thought Dean was dead. Several episodes later Cas comes back from Purgatory. Dean had known all along Cas was alive and in Purgatory. He hadn't tried to get Cas back in any way. Does anyone blame Dean for not looking for Cas, who was in Purgatory? No, because nobody else has an attitude like Dean.
And a more recent example of this very same thing happening was in S13 when Mary was in the apocalypse world. Dean just assumed that their mom was dead and wanted to leave it at that. The VERY same thing he pretty much nailed Sam to the cross for in S8. But no one never even mentioned this, because Dean can't do anything wrong.
sk70091 Sometimes, Dean is a big bag of hypocrisy 🤷🏻♀️
@@sk70091 oh my God, the season 8 thing has bothered me for years now. Sam had no idea where Dean was, and yet Dean held a grudge against him for it. On the other hand, Dean knew Cas was in purgatory and Mary was in Apocalypse world, and did nothing until the solution was handed to him on a platter. But no one even bats an eyelash at that. I love Dean. I believe the show wouldn't be complete without either of the brothers, but it's tiring to watch Sam shoulder the blame for everything.
They worked with Meg, too. And where Ruby had spent almost two years regularly helping and saving them, Meg didn’t. Meg orchestrated John’s capture and death. She possessed Sam and used his hands to murder another hunter. She controlled the hell hounds that killed Ellen and Jo.
So I really don’t get how Sam trusting Ruby was always bad, but working with Meg and Crowley under similar “enemy of my enemy” circumstances is fine
Good Lord, I come back to this scene just to cry. Jared's phenomenal acting, and those puppy eyes 😍😍💘💘
Seriousness of the scene aside (which is AMAZING by the way) I love how you can always tell that Dean has OFFICIALLY reached his "FUCK EVERYTHING! FUCK YOU! FUCK ME! FUCK LIFE!" stage of thinking when it lashes out and just starts flinging shit everywhere like a crazy man. Another awesome (yet soul-crushing) example was...
*(SPOILER ALERT, DON'T CLICK IF HAVEN'T SEEN SEASON 9)*
... right after Kevin gets killed by Gadreel who's possessing Sam :'(. He's swiping shit off tables, flipping them over, screaming, crying, the whole schbang. Do what you want to him (although he'd really prefer you didn't) but GOD HELP YOU if you hurt/kill someone he considers family.
What is it with dean and lamps..
+MrYrualive love it
So this isn't the first time Dean broke a lamp?
Lamps don't fight back.
Light Stick*
Nice try with the pinch dean but it barely phased Sam. Bless him. This scene hurts me, very well acted but Dean just will not allow a tiny bit of grey into his black and white world. They know enough now that not all things that aren't natural are evil. Sam was trying to do good, it was the company he kept that was bad. He was lost and lonely and Dean never just calms down and listens, he always just reacts first.
CharliMill Looks like Dean never changes, eh?
funny enough, he just came back from hell. then what he saw was the betrayal form one who was cause that dean went to hell. if I were dean i hit sam to death with all anger of my life.
@big figterford Funny enough, Sam was completely messed up and suicidal when Dean died. He got manipulated when he was vulnerable, and he tried to use his curse for something good so he wouldn't go completely insane. Sam needed a little understanding. Dean is not the only one with trauma here, although he did make everything about himself here.
@@sk70091 shut it
Well put
Omg! Just watched this again after so long, & it made me cry! Both Jared & Jensen are phenomenal in this scene.
this is why I Love Supernatural amazing acting!!!!! i miss these kinds of episodes
Sam’s face at 1:58 makes me cry
I love Dean and all but it really does annoy me how he treats Sam sometimes, Sam is doing the best he can in a crap situation. Yes it ended badly but Dean's done bad stuff too, but for some reason every time Sam messes up it's seen as a much bigger deal and everyone acts like he's this stupid, reckless kid who can't do anything right it's heart breaking. Especially when everyone they befriend trusts and likes Dean more and acts as if Sam is just Dean's little brother and nothing more. :( He's kinda a very underrated character, which is really sad.
Sophie Tansley I think the difference is that the stupid things Dean has done have always come from his need to save everyone and sacrifice himself. Selling his soul for Sam, accepting the MoC, tricking Sam into being possessed by Gadreel . . . Those were all reckless choices that he made in the moment with little to no forethought as to the consequences and he made those choices to protect/save Sam. Most of the time, Dean didn't have a chance to think about what he was doing because there was no time, so he simply made a choice. Whereas Sam's biggest mistakes are usually more thought out (rather than an impulsive decision) and they are often born from a need to prove himself. Drinking demon blood and working with Ruby was a conscious decision that he made. He had time to think about what he was doing, and he still made that choice even with Dean and Bobby (and the angels) warning him about what he was doing. Sure, Dean and Bobby could have listened to Sam's side more, but Sam didn't exactly care to listen to them either. Despite the warnings, Sam continued down that path for months and wouldn't even consider the fact that he might be making a mistake.
I think that's the difference and that's why Sam's mistakes are treated as worse than Dean's. Dean typically makes a reckless/dumb decision in the moment, then deals with the fallout on his own. Whereas Sam's mistakes are typically thought out, conscious decisions, and he doesn't usually listen to reason when someone (Dean or Bobby, usually) try to tell him that he's making a bad choice. Not trying to hate on Sam here, but that's just my observation.
I completely agree with you I have always liked sam more then dead for that reason... dean has made as meny mistakes as Sam if not more and Sam is always treated like the bad guy when he does...
@Aria Faline, Well, we never actually got to see the moment when Sam first decided to start drinking demon blood, so you can't say you know how he came to that decision. The show has always been very good about showing us every single second of Dean making a questionable decision, so that we understand him better, but when Sam does something questionable (starting to drink demon blood, not looking for Dean in Purgatory) we're never there with him to see what lead him to that moment. The show is very much told from Dean's POV.
And as for Sam never considering the fact that what he was doing might be wrong, that's just not true. Sam himself decided not to use his powers anymore at the end of this very episode. The only reason he went back to in "It's A Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester" was because it was the only way to save people. He used his powers against Samhain as a last resort. In fact, I'd say that the biggest reason Sam was still drinking demon blood in S4 was to save the world, and Dean. He said several times that he didn't like it, and that it scared the hell out of him, but he was still willing to do that to himself in order to stop the apocalypse. He didn't care what would happen to himself, if he could stop Lilith.
@@ariafaline5221 When he started doing that he had seen his brother being brutaly killed, being powerless; he was alone, sucidal and didn't knew what to do, until Ruby appeared and decided to "help him". Sam was desparate, and he choose Ruby because it was the only one who "was there for him" in that fucked up situation he was in. That turn into an emotional dependence that blind him of the fact that she was a Demon and was probably liying or manipulating him. Even ignoring the fact that he ended up in an adiction to the Demon Blood.
Or maybe he knew all of that was wrong without admiting it (that's why he didn't told Dean), he saw he was doing good, saving people and as a plus, at that point he didn't care much about himself, so if that was usefull to help others, he'll keep doing it...
That's my interpretation.
@@ariafaline5221 Good point; not to mention he also fucked Ruby so he was already giving into the dark side... Dean saw that and he knew since Sam hid it from him that he knew what he was doing was wrong. Sam was slowly starting to accept the demon blood within him than fight it. However it would've been nice to hear from Sams perspective on why he did it. The writers make sure to redeem Dean in every episode when not Sam. Almost as if the entire show was truly from Dean's prospective if you remember the Dginn episode where dean's blood was being drained from him and he was in this alternative world where he saw how great their lives wouldve turned out had they never started hunting
touching , thanks for uploading
Sam and Dean are so vulnerable without eachother. They really do need eachother, just to survive. I hope season six won't be the last. I love these guys.
It's funny too watch dean talking about God's will 🤣🤣
Both these boys are incredibly talented. Love the Winchesters. Thanks.
Dean it's like ''So your fucking excuse is that I'd been gone a couple of months? Fuck u Sam.'' That thought will always make me laugh.
@2:38 "Cas said that if I don't stop you, he will" First time Dean calls Castiel 'Cas'!
love supernatural there are loads of funny bits in it.
Oh god... this is such a powerful scene... amazing actors...
Still love this scene!! So intense. Oh and yes I may have had a few tears again, think its more due to the acting by Jared & Jensen!!! I still jumped when Jensen trashed the table even though I've watched this scene about 30 times lol
That's what makes this show so great, don't you agree??? It actually makes us think about stuff!!! And I understand what you're talking about totally. From the moment Dean got back he was suspicious of Sam, and Sam wasn't being truthful to Dean. Same with Dean--he was carrying around things about Hell that he probably should've talked about, but that's easier said than done.
dean understood-thats why he told sam in this clip- "you are going down a slippery slope-its going to get darker and darker" --hello- thats what addiction is. dean understood exactly-you selling dean short for whatever reason. but that statement i just posted explains addiction to a tea.
Back when they actually used to care about saving people who were possessed by demons rather than just straight up killing them without a thought like they are now (I'm on season 8). It still bugs me.
Yeah, it bugs me that Sam's point about the knife killing the victim goes completely ignored here. It was a damn good point.
Yeah, now they just kill, and kill... Is like they forgot about the fact that there can be an inocent Human being trap. Yes, the human soul may go to Heaven. But idk... I still think they should find another way...
@@sk70091 I know. Sam tries to go back to saving the possessed in S11 too, but I guess that was ignored over the more pressing matters.
All time great scenes... 👍
Intense! Jensen Ackles is AMAZING in this scene.
my god... he's great... I mean both of them, I always love Deans scenes and now with sam .. this is one of the best scenes ever in supernatural.. I totally love their acting
(cont) Sammy who has been punished more than enough they stay mad at. We want to assign blame how about we go to Yellow Eyes or Mary or John even. Yellow Eyes fed him the blood, Mary made that deal, and John alienated him. As far as Sam leaving Dean for Ruby "If you walk out that door don't you ever some back" having the same John used when Sam went to college thrown at him like that after being called a monster and held captive by his brother and father figure? Anyone would've left
and this is why Jensen Ackles is amazing. Just Saying
more like dean confronts sam
The Last Episode Directed By Kim Manners
“If I didn’t know you, I’d want hunt you. And so would other hunters.”
And that reaction right there is why Sam was too scared to say anything. Remember, the last order John ever gave Dean was to kill Sam. The idea of being hunted, and even by his own family, isn’t new to Sam. I wouldn’t have felt safe either.
Best brother ever
Knowing and UNDERSTANDING are 2 totally different things. He knew, but he didn't know what Sam was wrestling with. End of. And Sam didn't know everything Dean was dealing with.
I so was mad at Dean for how he made Sam feel like he was in the wrong. Just because he could do something Dean couldn't. I would love for them to look back at this moment and realize that it was Angels, the guys that turned out to be total dicks that got Sam to stop going after Lillith. If Sam had gotten to Lillith before she got all the seals it would have messed up all their plans. Dean played right into their hands by making Sam stop.
There was nothing wrong with what Sam was doing, then.
Not true. I mean, yes, Dean could have handled it better, but so could Sam. Dean refused to see Sam's side of the argument just as Sam refused to even consider the fact that he might be making a mistake. And Dean definitely wasn't upset because he couldn't do what Sam could. He was upset by what his brother was doing, not jealous!
That's actually a really good point. If Lilith had been killed before it was time, Lucifer wouldn't have been freed.
Great scene!
Great talent .
"slippery slope brother...just wait and see"
damnit!!! why does no-one listen to Dean??? he is ALWAYS right!!!!!!!!
Weeell, not exactly. It wasn't Sam using his powers that started the apocalypse. It was the fact that he killed Lilith with them. Even if Sam hadn't used his powers, and they'd found another way to kill Lilith (and they would have, because they were manipulated from both sides), the apocalypse still would have happened. Can you imagine if they'd killed Lilith with the Colt or something? I don't think anyone would have gone around saying, "damn it, why didn't anybody warn us what bad news that Colt was!" But the show had to find a way to make it all Sam's fault.
These two are such incredible actors. The tension and emotion is so thick here. Poor Sammy. I love Dean and he is an awesome brother, but he treated Sam so unfairly thru season 4. Sam didn't ask for those powers and he honestly thought he was doing the right thing. Both Sam and Dean made mistakes. They were both duped and used as puppets to start and finish the apocalypse. It wasn't all Sam's fault, Dean needed to realize that.
poor Sammy
God give me strength i am going to try and be as intense as jensen was in this scene when i do it in speech and debate but holy shit i have no clue how i'm gonna pull it off.
Brilliant scene . Dean spent all his life trying to protect Sam. So can understand why is angry
💔😢 Iconic scene ❤️❤️💙💙
Best Scene ever.
Sam : Dean what are you doing?
Dean : *Packing his clothes angry*
Sam : What, are you, are you leaving?
Dean : *cut his words* You don't need me. I'M GOIN BACK TO MY PARENTS' HOUSE
Not a fan of wincest but seriously.. you two are like a married couple!!
wow. i forgot how dope season 4 was... damn..
Sam's face after 2.54 just kills me.
Damn forgot how I hated self-righteous Dean during this season and the next.
Sam was the worst character is this season not Dean!shut up!
Its painful to watch. Especially all the crap he gives Sam in S5, even though he knows he wanted to kill Lilith just as much and Sam had no idea it would the apocalypse when he did it.
@@collycarson6001 yeah, it always bugged me why they blamed Sam for the apocalypse when all team free will played equal role in it.
Like Cas let Sam out, Dean broke the 1st seal. Sam broke the last.
And people excuse Dean because he didn't know? Well, neither did Sam. Cas and the angels on the other hand...
@@amberxv4777 True. Heaven and Hell used the Winchesters as puppets. But poor Sam got all the blame. Heaven years later, that Hunter girl in S9 ( Tracy Bell I think?) was mad at Sam for it. He takes the blame too, and no one defends him.
@@collycarson6001 you're right!they shouldn't show that girl!they should show the husband of the innocent nurse he killed only to drink her blood and her crime was only that she was possessed by one of Lilith's servants and and her murderer was a demon blood sucking and a lying bitch!she begged him and told him she has a husband and child!exsorsize wasn't enough yeah!he should drain her from blood
I love Sam. I really do. But saying it was noting wrong with what he was doing in this moment... it's go a little much far. Remember he was already drinking (and fucking with) Rubby's blood, who was always Lilith's servant. I don't blame him either. I think both (Dean and Sam) make stupid decisions when the other one is off scene. Sam couldn't drive his pain (his big brother was gone) and his guilt (he couldn't save him), and Rubby used it against him.
@henninggirl oh my sam i know!! he is my favourite actor, but when you scroll down to see the comments, everyone is [usually] always talking about Dean!! AHH!!
this is heartbreaking :(
Best scene in the whole show
Awesome
And I'm agree Dean drive the matter as ass. Shouting, orders and hits were never a good way to help Sam to find the right road. Too much similar to daddy Jonh's method. Yet, the poor one spent the whole season fighting against the hell memories, and the psychological trauma of having lived forty years of torture, rape, and even worse...
And then Sam was tortured by the Devil himself for 180 years.
if sam had stopped drinking demon blood the whole apocolypse would not have happened. and actually if cas would have been more honest none of it would have happened.
will Never believe that Sam was wrong in any way... dean is the one way way out of line. What should have happened was Dean's support to make sure Sammy didn't go to far. agree 100 percent that Sammy saving victims should have been more important that how they were being saved.
I feel bad for them b oth, Dean obviously has anger issues since everytime he ges mad he starts hitting Sam. Sam wasn't an ass in season 4 he thought he was doing the right thing he kept it from Dean bc he knew Dean would react like this, he could lie or get a beat down every other day. For the record Dean did break the first and I know he wasn't aware of it but Sam thought he was stopping the apocalypse when he killed Lillith not beginnning it. Everyone is always ready to forgive Dean but
The difference is that when Dean broke the first seal, he literally had no idea what he was doing. He was being tortured in Hell, and believed he would be there for eternity. He didn't know what the apocalypse or the seals were.
Sam was drinking demon blood and working with a demon despite literally everyone warning him against what he was doing. Dean and Bobby kept trying to tell Sam that he was on a dark path and he was making a mistake, and Sam refused to even hear them out, which lead to him breaking the final seal. Now, I don't hate Sam for what he did because he really thought he was doing the right thing by killing Lilith. I mean, she was a demon who was trying to free Lucifer, of course it made sense to kill her. But the way he went about everything was definitely reckless and if he'd paused to listen to Dean, things might have played out very differently.
So, yeah, Dean and Sam both made some mistakes, but Dean breaking the first seal and Sam breaking the last were very different situations. And while I get why Sam did what he did and I don't blame him for it (not entirely anyways), he is still definitely more at fault for the apocalypse than Dean is.
@@ariafaline5221 What Sam was doing was killing Lilith. All his actions right or wrong were directed at that which wasn't wrong in the first place. When Dean tortured souls it was wrong in itself even without breaking the seal.
Je kiffe ce passage et Sam à raison je trouve ☺
even after season 3 ruby is still with sam
Damn
your wrong about dean-he new sam was addicted and at first dean didn't know what to do other than plead with sam to stop-then he put sam in the panic room but cas let him out and then bla bla bla. we know what happened after that.
i wanna see the 5th season already ahahahahaaahhhh!!! hey what channel is the WB if you live in south texas??
I agree with you...except about John Winchester being "useless". I know I'm jumping into something here, but w/ some people the debate will go on and on no matter how wrong the other person is *coughs*. Remember, John had tunnel vision and didn't necessarily to right by Dean growing up, but he basically gave his life for Dean's in the end. And John was supposed to have broken the 1st seal, not Dean, and he didn't give in. JW might've been a lot of things, but he wasn't useless.
sam was alone without you Dean !! and he felt in love with ruby !! he wasn't alone with her.... btw i love suby momments :P
jesus christ dean ya dont hit your little brother
2:43
Dean Winchester: See what that means, Sam? That means that God doesn't want you doing this.
Me at season 4: Yeah Sam, if you don't listen to Dean, at least listen to God.
Me at season 15: Fuck God!!!, Chuck ain't happy? Good!!! (that phrase did not age well)
I get where Dean is coming from, I do, but poor Sammy :(
@henninggirl I never thought about it that way, but it's so true.
caption tho👌
Of course angels weren't still a good guys, and they have his part of guilt. Castiel was the one who got Sam out of panic room, in the end of the season, so he could go a killed Lilit. Following orders, sure, but type that the fans like to forget it.
Dean acting all jealous and punching Sam, reminds me of a bad breakup. The guy is all "Come on honey, don't be that way, let's talk." She slaps him, he looks at her and says "Happy?" She kicks him, and he says "I guess not." I'm not saying they're gay, I'm just saying they really evince their emotion, such as Dean just seething with anger and Sam is trying so hard to do the right thing. But he's stuck in between cuz he sees that Dean doesn't like it.
Sam doesn't confront dean...dean confronts sam
You don't need me. You and ruby can go fight demons together. Lol
They both make that puppy face buh dean loves sam so much that he is willing to give his life for him why cause they're brothers
@henninggirl This is true he totally gave himself over the that role.
Why is it that I usually feel sad for Sam when moments come to Dean beating him up? Why is it that I never feel bad for Dean especially when he is right like for example, when he beat up Sam as a soulless person, I felt more bad for Sam than Dean. Actually to be honest with you, I did not feel sorry for Dean at all but when he was in the Osiris episode, I kind of understood him a bit more I believe. Is there something wrong with me?
James Paine same
James Paine I can almost always see both side of the story--sam's and dean's--but somehow I always end up sympathyzing with sammy...even when I KNOW dean's right i just don't feel angry at sam :/
For me it's the opposite. I can always sympathize with Dean, even when he's making a mistake, but I struggle to symphathize with Sam when he's in the same position, or even when he's right. I don't know why that is, but funny how different it is for each viewer. The times SPN has brought me to tears has always been for Dean, never Sam or any other character.
Do you think Ruby would have let Sam get to Lilith before they had everything in order? They'd been working together since day one.
Emmy's? they dont need Emmy's, guys, i think this award is overrated.
We appreciated them, i dont care if others dont get to see how awesome those actors are, their loss...
Dean's last face after Sam gets off the phone pretty much kills me DX
GOD this was such a good scene. Sam got SO arrogant in the fourth season and it was nice to see someone shock some reality back to his system.
Sam, arrogant? Isn't it Dean here who is being so bigoted and rigid in his views that he gets downright violent rather than even try to listen to Sam's reasons?