Why Do We Work?
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This is the very question I ask myself every morning of the week.
Goro Awesome! I always say "If you wouldn't do it for free, don't do it."
Jari Jansma if I was being payed £1,000,000 a year I'd to it. Even if it was something I despise like, being an English teacher
I work to make billionaires more money. It's a form of charity.
Otherwise Jeff Bezos would have to deal with the fact he is hopelessly bald and has a micro penis.
except on the Weekend ;)
Because our parents couldn’t resist sticking the clit and dick together and out came us, the replications and products of that. We’re then tossed straight into the competition called life.
I don't like how everybody thinks and how the world works, it has made me depressed.
Same
I'm a server administrator who has been looking for work for almost a year now. Financial stress is an obvious issue, but so is the social stigma of being _"unemployed"_ (translated as: lazy, unintelligent, unworthy). The hardest part for me has been the feeling that I'm not contributing anything to anyone. I began volunteering at an animal shelter a couple months ago and discovered that I would happily clean litter boxes and walk dogs every day, regardless of whether I was being paid or not. Now, if I could walk dogs AND have money for a restaurant meal now and then, I'd be set.
Have you maybe tought of learning something like HTML or programming? You can follow free courses on Khan Academy and it's actually pretty easy to learn. Not to mention the job oppurtunuties are everywhere around the globe. :) Hope you find a job soon mate!
Thanks. I do have some coding experience and have completed a few online courses. Without writing out my whole life story, I decided that this is a good opportunity to do something I love rather than something that just pays the bills, so next fall I'm going back to school for a diploma program in Architectural Technology. It's a big commitment and there's no guarantee of a payoff, but screw it, we only live once, right? Cheers.
Sensi Bleb
Haha indeed do what you love to do, but make sure you don't regret it in the future just be sure that you have a balanced outcome between a fun and loving job that rewards you with the things you really need. :) Good luck!
Sensi Bleb wow, i know how you feel. I've been unemployed for two weeks and I started to kind of feel useless and kind of embarrassed when people would ask if I had a day off or something. I just found a job,i hope it brings me some kind of happiness my other job couldn't bring me. Good luck with life.
I was very dissatisfied with my job in the IT, even though I achieved a very good position and got the more challenging stuff in an international team. IT was never my passion. I used to work in my free time on various projects unrelated to IT. I was playing around with the idea to drop the IT thing altogether and start doing what I want to, even though the salary is a joke compared to the IT position. As it turned out, my position was cut. So that made the choice easier. Now I am already six weeks home, even though I get paid until the end of the year. I could get another job in the IT, had some interviews, but currently I am waiting how things develop in the field which I would like to work in. If I did not have that stupid mortgage things would be easier. I hope to get a job I actually want to do and that they will offer me a salary that will do and I will have a little money left in the end of the month, about 50 € would be fine. I need to get paid to pay my bills and buy food. I do not need to buy stuff every month. Quite the opposite, people tell me to buy new things all the time. Mostly clothing and shoes, I simply wear them until they fall apart (shoes). I hope that you will find a way to do what you like, where you see a meaning. Hopefully the job will give enough money to get by.
that tourist is a bit of a hypocrite. He's calling out the fisherman for relaxing on the beach while the tourist is actually on vacation smh
I wish it was like in "Star Trek" where we didn't have to worry about money, and just had the things we needed for free.
Like an unlimited supply of Enterprises. :D
+max1manus I thought communism was when everyone got paid the same wage????
There's still ownership in the ST universe.
it's the future prolly not in our lifetime though
If you can produce enough surplus, especially with robot labor, market forces will have the price trend toward zero.
To feed the system and be silently oppressed by it
Luis Freire Basic Income here we come! (a movie you might be interested in: Waking Life)
Look at it like charity for micro penis billionaires like Gates and Bezos.
They need billions so they don't cry when they look in a mirror.
How else would those dweebs get women or people at large to like them?
@@jarijansma2953 then inflation punches you hard !!!
@@lkhagwadorj inflation isnt even real lmfaoo
Work always was painful to me, starting from high school, university time, working as a research scientist, and everything that came after this. Excruciatingly painful to psychiatric disorders originating in my childhood.
10 years after my first diagnosis (clinical depression) I got my final diagnosis and have to take 4 (5) medications. With 54 I got temporary disability pension for 2 years.
After this, I got granted permanent disability pension and this was the biggest relief and the single biggest leap towards regaining a relatively "normal" emotional state.
So, work? Not for me.
Would be a dream to wake up when you like, eat healthy at home, time to get fit and you would get to enjoy your life, travel and explore, would be amazing!!
As an archaeologist, I would work for free if I had three square meals a day and roof over my head.
Having clinical depression, nothing motivates me to work anymore. It's really difficult
Believe me, I understand. So, so fucking difficult.
pROvAK - thank you so much, i'm hoping things can turn around soon. all the best to you!
I have no motivation
Right there with you.
But we're wage slaves.
Not a lot that can be done...
:/
***** Christopher McCandless ? Guy ended up DEAD!
My saying is "if you find a job you love doing, you'll never work a day in your life"... unfortunately it's the company/management that stuff that up and you have to keep changing companies.
Adam Smith was right, I am inherently lazy if it wasn't for the motivation of money I would just sit around watching RUclips videos and playing games all day.
Kaneanite Ditto.
Why is doing something important? Who says it has importance? If one is content sitting around watching youtube isn't that enough?
It's all subjective. If you feel a need to contribute then that's all well and good but it's just how you find contentment.
It may not apply to others.
***** Agreed, it could even be argued that some workaholics work as an escape.
From relationship problems,
from depression,
from the insignificance of our own existence.
In this sense learning to be happy doing nothing would be something worth striving for.
I'd have a lot more time to jog, learn and write, 3 pillars of my life.
Adam Smith was right about YOU being deliberately lazy, but let's not pretend that this ridiculous notion applies in general. In fact, if you really sit back and consider the ramifications of the statement you just made, you'll quickly find out that you're a terrible human being. It's because of people like you that everyone else has to enslave themselves to unfulfilling 9-5 jobs just to eat or avoid homelessness.
We need a reward system that is not monetary where you get points for doing a genuine kindness. And redeemed for things we shouldn't have to pay for like food and rent and all those things they don't need money for in Star Trek.
I love my job and actually look forward to Mondays :) It does have the downside of keeping you up at night thinking about work or waking you up too early cuz you dreamt about work and can't stop thinking about it when you get woken up :(
Thank you, Vanessa! Thanks for sharing the trifecta: autonomy, mastery, and purpose. Great advice for reaching those higher levels of Maslow's hierarchy.
If I didn't have to work I would play videogames, surf da net, and travel.
I absolutely love these videos! They're a lot of fun to watch but the only problem is that they don't come out fast enough! I know it takes a while to edit and other things in life but it would be awesome to see more of these
I'm a fireman. Finding meaning in my work has never been a problem.
But the sun will one day swell and then burn all of planet Earth.
You're fighting a losing battle, let it burn.
local.theonion.com/existentialist-firefighter-delays-3-deaths-1819571551
Oh yeah ? and im the human torch
Working and having a job are not the same thing. But thanks for the video. It's super relevant to my life right now.
I just retired in 2016 from my job after 20 years because I hated having to spend most of my waking hours doing what my employer wanted with little regard for my own interests. I went from making a salary of about $70,000/year to retirement pay of about $26,000/year - and it was totally worth it.
Now, I’m 47 years old and I need to figure out what to do with my free time for the rest of my life. I could live a life of leisure but I’ve seen in others that that is the path to mental and physical deterioration, so as tempting as it is, I know it’s a bad choice. So, I’m going to choose to work but not have a job. I just finished my first semester in a computer science degree as a half-time student. The half-time pace gives a good balance of mental stimulation without too much stress. After this degree (and hopefully a master’s degree if I can handle it), I’ll still have a few decades of life to explore interesting things to do with computers: robotics, artificial intelligence, modeling in public policy and economics, etc.
Most Inspirational video thus far. I feel much better at what I do now though I don't make much money. Our society tend to make money and stuff top priority. That never fit my values, but I began to fall to the "peer pressure" and feel bad bout myself though my work is my passion and fits my passion. This video caused me to ask questions and think for myself. Mahalo
I don't actually need to work to survive - I was unemployed for two years after university - I love my job because it gives my life purpose, I work hard because I want to climb the career ladder, and I care about my paycheck because I'm saving money so I can get my own place. Purpose, mastery, and autonomy. Very insightful video.
Hi Vanessa!
An interesting and informative video as always.
Your videos have helped me with getting examples and new perspectives for my school courses very often.
This is a very elegant sum up of a complex problem. Super interresting and thank you for this very well made video!
This question inevitably had me change my major. It was brought up in an engineering class, and the teacher assumed most if not all of the students were the tourist, I identify more with the fisherman though, I then realised how much time and effort I would have to put into my career, in mechanical engineering, in a field I was just satisfied with. I then switched to Computer Science major, hoping to freelance.
Agreed wholeheartedly. In Australia, there are 7 people for every job advertised, on average. Having recently lost my job, while I've enjoyed a few months of relaxation following a decade of working without a break, it's starting to get to me. Every person should be paid a basic wage - enough to cover bills and then they will not only continue to spend, but seek out their own way of contribution.
If I had a basic wage, I would continue my photography and videography services, I would work for charities, and I would better my education in all manner of things. Instead, people who aren't working are treated like criminals and here I am, applying for work daily, getting rejected, and getting deeper and deeper into my depression as a result. All while mortgage and bills loom, and my meagre savings dwindle.
Nah. If you could provide value to organisation then they would hire you.
centrelink?
@@cryptic-qv8sy What a dumbfuck statement. At the time of posting, I had 20 years of experience in a variety of roles and industries. Now, I have 25 years of experience. It took me a year and a half to find a permanent full time role with two short-term opportunities in between. I have value for companies, I just couldn't find companies that held value in experienced employees.
@@jonathan-3008 What about it? It's below the poverty line. It didn't cover my mortgage, let alone bills or food.
This episode was great. I was just talking about this the other day with a friend.
I'm curious - how would you classify your job making educational videos within those three options? I love this topic, and completely agree that there are some flawed ways of viewing work, and this video summed up the alternatives really nicely!
I like that they uploaded this last week but privated it and uploaded an different video
Emzlo a different*
I found the ability to work whenever I want (as a filmmaker/videographer) alleviates most of my distastes towards working. I suppose it's partly because I feel in control, but it also allow me to rest until I'm good to go, and work until I'm actually tired. My body, and I assume many of us, just doesn't sync up neatly with a 5 day schedule.
This is a common adaptation of Henrich Böll's 1963 short story "Anekdote zur Senkung der Arbeitsmoral", typically known as the tourist and the fisherman parable.
Wonderful message :)
Thanks for the video! good to be reminded of this :)
The ideal thing would be to find meaning and purpose in your work, having the feeling you are needed in this world, and being able to take care of yourself and the people around you (not only financially, but on different levels too). But this isn't possible for everyone I beleive, this kind of 'ideal' freedom (not in the current system atleast: that's why a basic income would be so great). For instance: When my mom had me at 30, and after realizing all her art (studies) didn't amount to a steady enough income to raise a kid on, she had to start working somewhere, just for the money. The job kind of sucked, and no, it didn't give here a strong sense of purpose or meaning etc, but what can you do! When you have children and you're a single mom.. Your purpose becomes to raise that kid! Doing what you have to do.
Now I'm 21 and have enough time, space and freedom to identify what those things are that give meaning to my life, and actually try to get a job (or a study and then a job, there's many roads to rome ofcourse) that fulfills those things I really love to do. It's kind of a luxury really, to be able to (try) to do that. I think that shouldn't be a luxury, but a given. like a basic Human Right, of sorts.
Thanks for the affirmation. I plan on spreading the word about my spine disease Arachnoiditis.
Perhaps the issue here is that modern day employers need to be more flexible. It's hard to see the fisherman scenario working in the 9 - 5 world. I can't imagine my employer being ok with me deciding I'll only work a few days here and there to support myself and then go home whenever I want. I'd most likely get fired. My options are stability and more work than I want to do and more money than I need or instability and the potential of not having enough money to survive.
If I didn't have to work, the definition of work would change since then I would spend all the time volunteering at a a cat shelter "working".
This channel is on my favourite Science & Knowledge youtube channel list 😍
I heard a theory that one day when AI takes over most of our jobs, there will be a universal salary, and we won't have to work anymore. We'd lead lives of leisure, learning instruments, watching TV, socialising, going out, all the while being paid to do it. Would you be happy with this? Why and why not.
Good point. Btw, you have a very interesting channel. :)
Ricardo Cruz thank you :)
miss physics I think it would be hard for purpose-driven people, because basically anything you could contribute to society is already being taken care of. While there would be an elimination of stress from work, I think a feeling of helplessness and uselessness would be more common.
Nah, people would just take up hobbies. Adults do not work because they want to feel useful to society.
Ricardo Cruz
Speak for yourself. ;)
I appreciate all you do. Brava!
Ha. This Story abut the tourist and the fisher.
We just had that today in school.
I believe it's originally from Germany, where it's called "Anekdote zur Senkung der Arbeitsmoral" meaning "Anecdote to lower the working morale".
But there's actually a second anecdote with the same tourist and fisher, but a few years later, the fisher and his boat are lying in the sand.
He now is too old to go fishing, lost his family and home and is living from the church and the cents that tourists give him.
Fittingly this one is called "Anekdote zur Erhöhung der Arebitsmoral" meaning "Anecdote to raise the working morale".
I've asked myself this question on rough days at work.
Money is evil, I work for myself and only answer to myself 😊
There is a fantastic book that really got me thinking about this. It's called "The why are you here Cafe". I can highly recommend reading it. It also doesn't take much time because it's pretty short.
I love all your videos!
i like to think of work as a web of gears, all doing their part making society function. if you drive to work, think about all the people needed to make that possible (from model designers and manufacturers to the fluids like gasoline, brake and transmission fluid). all those job, just so you can make it to yours. and we haven't even mentioned the jobs needed to make the jobs that make it possible to drive your car to work.
I can't believe you like money too. We should hang out.
😂😂😂 10/10
Well with robots becoming increasingly smarter and practically able to do any job, this question will soon take on another level to it.
Will people still work in 10-20 years when robots will be able to every job for cheaper? Will the economy evolve to allow this? Will more people do more humanitarian work?
Will people fight the system because they need purpose and control? We will all be like the fishermen?
I want to be the fisherman
Daniel Bentley I want to be the manerfish.
As someone who researched this a while back, I recommend doing a search on Dan Pink and some of the other compelling talks he's done on human motivation. It may well change the way you view incentives, and help you in your own work place.
I don't have to work but I spend most of my life working to make the world a better place.
Super Superb!! Thanks!
I find work fascinating..... I could sit there and stare at it all day.
next video: Why do we school?
So we can work.
Great episode 👌 thank you
For me I will probably always work, and its not money that gets me up in the morning. I need money, but as long as my needs are met I don't really want money, I want interest, to learn, and to control my surroundings (gardening and such). I like making things but do not like manufacturing (assembly line). I went on a 2 week vacation and after 3 days of relaxing I got bored and proceeded to invent tasks to keep me busy.
When you think about it, the way I see things is that money it not really an incentive on itself. For some it is, but what really encourage money as an incentive is the access of ressources that we need to live which money gives. We live in a system that promotes individual self-worth around materialistic possessions; the more you own the more "successful" you will appear to be. So, if we are truly intelligent about how mechanization and automatisation will replace most of our world's jobs, I can assure you that people's incentive to work will dramatically change from doing menial task to earn a living over actually working to better themselves and the community. Since we human are a socials and community based creatures, we have an inherent need, I firmly believe so, to do things that feels are important to ourselves and in the grander schemes of things.
I simply do what I do to farm resources. That is it. I wasn't born with one of those all consuming "passions" I hear so much about. I've never felt "intended" to do anything. Centuries ago I would have been milking cows or something. It's the same use of time, and I get milk either way.
Bennie Jackson well said but its good to have a hobby that you want to get better at
If I had an endless allowance, I wouldn't work a traditional job. My job would be rescuing a ridiculous amount of animals and giving them a happy home. It's hard work, but not the typical thing people think of as work.
Nice story with the tourist and the local :D
Thanks a lot!
With Edwards study, the first group can be more motivated pretty easily, only give them the money when they succeed, and increase the reward. There for sure will be a tipping point.
Today I am fortunate that I no longer have to work. But I still work.
Why? Because I feel a purpose with what I do in my work, and feel I make a difference by working. In the past I acquired some skills, and today it warms my heart to see how much it helps my co-workers when I pass on these skills. This is my current purpose for working.
It was not always this way for me. For a long period of my life I was an independent consultant who earned less than I could get on welfare. This was an investment in myself similar to education, as I knew I could achieve mastery in my field of work this way.
I'm definitely a "work to live" rather than "live to work" person. I can do any job as long as it pays the bills and doesn't slowly erode away my mental well-being. My main focus in life lies elsewhere.
Thanks dear.
I was thinking a lot about what a “job” means to me. I often felt a very strong cognitive dissonance between me and the work I was doing. It felt like a surreal movie, where I was just watching the person (me) doing various tasks, analyzing problems, proposing solutions, testing if they work, fixing what did not work, etc. It was really weird, surreal, like if I were reading a book or watching a movie. What happened at work did not happen to me, I did not identify with it. The worst part is that I openly talked about it with my colleagues. The office where I worked was a place where I exchanged my time for money, hour by hour, day by day. But that is a thing of the past now. It feels like being on a crossroads now. I could get another job in the IT sector or try to completely change the field and do all I can to achieve something in the recently created department of history in the local public transport authority. And the fact that this department exists is already a result of the work I have been doing in the last months in my free time. I am currently a bit paralyzed. On the one hand, I need money to pay my mortgage and bills. On the other hand, if things work out, I could get a job that I would actually really like, but I am afraid that with the salary they will offer I will be forced to reject that offer and go back to the IT sector again. And imagine how motivated I will be there. It is not about hating my job, but about feeling indifferent, detached and alienated. If the sole purpose of the job is to get paid, it is hell. Even though the people are nice and you like them and the work you do is challenging and varies a lot, so there is always something new to work on.
Erik Žiak I have a 10 years plan to get financially independent:
-invest to increase my income
-reduction of the cost of living
Once I achieve this, I think Ill be free to persue the things I like. What do you think?
Viracocha
Once I pay the mortgage my costs of living will drop significantly. I should be debt-free in 10 years. If I stayed working in Vienna in the IT sector, I would manage to pay off the mortgage in 5 years, maybe 6. But I want to work on something different. If I somehow would get the flat where I live for free, I would not mind working for much less money than I am used to. The biggest part of my salary goes on to pay for the flat. It is a 50 square meter old "panelák" located at the edge of the city.
I felt such a strong cognitive dissonance with my work once many years ago, and I quit. It was so strong that I did not even want another job, and for many years after that I worked as an independent consultant in the IT sector. I did not earn a lot of money in this period, but I gained a lot of experience until I decided it was too lonely to work alone, and decided to get a job again. This period of my life has really helped me.
About a year ago I gained what I consider full financial independence. What I mean by this is that I could maintain my current lifestyle until I get ninety years old, even if I have no income and get no return from my investments over the rate of inflation. How I reacted surprised me a bit: I could quit my current job, but I do not really want to. I am happy with my current work and want to keep working at this job, even though I no longer need the salary I am paid. This is because I feel I make a difference in my current job, and feel that I help my colleagues a lot and that my work is appreciated. Salary is not the only reason for working.
If I can give some advice, it would be: Make sure you are good with what you do, and that your work helps you develop your skills. If you are under 40 you should not care a lot about salary, but care about investing in yourself. This means finding a new job if your current job does not allow you to advance or become better. When you reach 30-40 you should begin thinking about retirement and financial independence. With a bit of luck your previous investment in yourself will help you in obtaining these objectives.
If I had an endless supply of money and my needs we taken care of, I'd teach myself things. Do hobbies that don't get paid too well when it's turned into a career eg art. Also would spend a lot of time volunteering.
I look at it like this; I have my Job, my Work, and my Career. My job is what I am doing right now to make money. It's not great, but it pays the bills and keeps food in the fridge. My work is my writing. I'm not making money off of it yet, but I keep at it and I'll (hopefully) be able to in the future. My career is what I want to do that will actually feel rewarding. It's is a bit like my Work, but mixed in with doing something that I feel will be worthwhile (not saying my writing isn't, but I need something to get out of the house for a few hours anyway).
Then again, that's just me. I'm still wanting the predicted future of where automated machines do everything and we become an artistic utopia.
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A lot of the jobs I've done are things that I would do for free. I'd get bored without work, but I don't think I'd do a full 40-hour work week if I were getting paid the same for 30 or 20.
wait, I already saw this!
I think it's not money that sometimes becomes a demotivating factor in an otherwise interesting work. It's the obligation to fulfil your end of the bargain, which can make you question your intrinsic motivation, whenever things get a little hard: "would I still do this had I not been paid?" And then before you allow yourself to ponder and rediscover your intrinsic motivation you just default to thinking: "well, it doesn't matter now that I've already agreed to do this".
One can experience very similar demotivating thought process, when money is not involved, but when there's a favour being returned, or a promise fulfilled, or any kind of extrinsic motivation that is perceived by the person as a binding commitment.
Simply put, the thing you love can becomes a chore, just because you HAVE TO do it, for money or otherwise.
Your first question is one I can answer. I actually do receive a pension each month. I have done so since 1997 or so. I'm under 40. I have missed out on so much when it comes to the work question. I have no idea what it actually means to have to work for a living. I do not have any relatable work stories, which in turn makes it difficult for me to relate with people who work. I work best, when I work alone though. I have contributed some to a few friends projects. Unfortunately, the reason I get this pension is due to a head injury, which has caused great consternation in that I cannot really concentrate on something for long amounts of time. Obviously, if I were able to, I'd love to work just so that I could relate to people. I have tried to work throughout this time period, but much of it did not last long either because I grew frustrated, bored, or in one case I was let go because they felt my "language" skills (in Norwegian) at the time were lacking. Some people find purpose, but I have constantly asked myself since the accident on the 28th of December 2016, what is my purpose? I would not mind terribly being part of any Neurological Studies.
*[Imitates Lucy]* Yeah. Yeah...! Why do we work?
*[Quits job]*
*[Moves to deserted island]*
*[Runs around free like a barnswallow]*
I don't consider what I do as work because I enjoy it so much. I'm a private tutor and I make resources for maths teachers. I'm also a writer. To me, I love what I do. I considered teaching work. I took a huge pay cut when I quit teaching but it was the best decision I've ever made.
work for what makes you happy.. For me the hard part is knowing what makes me happy, I wish I could say I had a passion.
ohh yes, I work in a factory, but you are right,yes, finding purpose in that job helped me to live better...
why do we work? sponsored by prudential with no apparent irony.
The ads really make sense for me, living in central europe in a country most people do not know exists.
To make billionaires happy.
Well.I have never been payed a lot. But I like working. Everyday at work may be CRAZY sometimes( and a pain) ,but that's just a part of working. I like days off too. I do enjoy working!!
At 50, I recognised two types of work: a. Work for money so I have to do what I am told; b. Work for hobby, I do what I love to do, but I don't get paid.
I'd still work or do something meaningful, build something that could impact others in good ways. Of course I could set new objectives and make new meaning to this new way of living, but it would be too big of a change in my life style and would have to switch friends and famility just to relate to someone close to the way I think.
I'd guess there is a correlation between how disposable someone is and how much they enjoy their job. Being important to even one person can make all the difference in work, and in life.
you do what you have to do until you can do what you want to do. society made us dependent on it, you can't really have anything unless you have money and for a lot of people a job is just a job. i like my job but it's exhausting, if i could be paid to do stuff i enjoy, I'd be happier. but those are not productive things so back to work it is.
Yep, the American Dream is a lie. And as the middle class continues to shrink it's only going to get worse.
O try not to think about that too much otherwise I won't get out of bed every day
I hope someday everyone will work only for free ( just for autonomy/mastery/pupose ), and, to make that possible, all will have the necessary to live for free too ... And at this day work will realy have meaning for everyone !
We work because society forces us to. We work because we are told from birth that this is our purpose, and this is how we will spend our life. We work so the men who told us this is what we must do can sit back and grow fatty. Our degenerative social constructs have deluded the masses into believing you should feel 'fulfilled' from your job, from your money. But looking down at the cold, hard, facts, you were tricked.
Yup, those that came before us ruined all the world had to offer. It's a shame we must now waste our lives, toiling away for years and receiving minuscule, negligible amounts of 'wealth'. Each and every one of you out there who feels like they are fulfilled from their work; you're just a pawn. You fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Capitalism is the hammer, and our malleable society is the crooked nail. The saddest part is, it's far, far too late to do anything about this. We will work. And we will die. Purpose has been taken from human life, so that the few may live well. For how intelligent human beings are, they designed one of the most flawed social systems imaginable. In the correct form of society, human beings as a species work together to build happiness, purpose, well being, and an enjoyable life worth living.
Now? Now there's nothing. Humans, for how intelligent and complex they are, have completely and utterly failed. We've destroyed any chance of a society that works together, and instead we battle over money and land. And for the everyman, your life is a 9-5, and for the lucky few, a .45 through the temple as seen by the extremely rapid increase in suicide throughout the world. This is what our world has brought us to, these are the facts. I wish so much I could reach out and change how this all works, but as stated previously, it's far too late. All we can do is enjoy the short lived happiness that every so often gleams through the darkness. I hope someday, I too find a ray of light.
It's not the motivation of money that makes me work, but the need to buy groceries and pay my bills. Money's just a medium of exchange. Work is about providing goods and services that other people want and are willing trade for, and using a medium of exchange is just easier to do than direct barter and trade. How many people *really* just want to earn money for its own sake? I suspect that what most of us really want is what money can buy for us, not the money itself.
By separating work from what your work is providing for other people, we get a distorted picture of what work is and why we do it. Increased productivity means either we have to work less to provide for our needs and desires, or that we can satisfy more of our needs and desires, or most likely figure out for ourselves the appropriate balance between what we need and what we want.
Will we ever achieve a post-scarcity society where there is truly no need to work? I won't say it's impossible, but I think it highly unlikely. But it does seem clear that the differences in productivity do change our focus. It's quite a difference to worry about having enough food to get through the winter to wondering if you want to buy the next generation iPhone.
I'm not sure if I need to work in order to be happy. I can split my day in: helping people in my local area, sports, reading, learning,meeting people... and I'll be happy. What do you guys think? Do you know any study on this?
Yep .. For me, my 'job' is an obstacle because I find my joy building open source software & hardware projects - and with a little space, I can even grow my own food & have my own power source ( solar & wind is abundant here ) but things like the current internet, rents and society which is inherently mad, want only one thing - an actually useless thing called money!
If I get paid to live and do my hobbies then at my free time I'd be volunteering a lot with ocean cleanups and I'd help out at animal shelters.
I'm not motivated to do unpaid work. I don't do dishes or laundry until I literally have nothing to wear or eat off of. I'd rather spend my 30 minutes between got-home and bed-time daily on fun things and then get all the weeks' worth of chores done in one weekend day. Then it goes from being a daily grind to something accomplished - a job well done - on Sunday.
I'm a musician and the "proper jobs" I've been offered recently are baker and an art teacher for disabled children. Money is a great advantage for these things but I like to focus more on making people happy.... that and showing off.
This is all well and said in theory but there are billions who do not have choices, who are working to survive and are limited to what is available in their communities. Socioeconomic status and access to resources plays a key driving force behind what ends up being a persons career.
I don't need to work but I do because it keeps my mind busy.
Yah but where do you work? What is your job?
So far I wouldn't work if I just got a ton of money every month just like that. I would do things that interest me like travel the world, things most people can't. Right now, I see work as the thing that provides the resource to do those other things, because that's just how our world works. With an "endless amount" of money I would only work if I found something which I am really passionate about and I think it's worth it, but I wouldn't search a job just to work.
Not every work done needs to be paid for. Sometimes people do work to gain social capital. I might help out my friends, spending hours fixing their tech problems or doing their plumbing or wiring so that our social bonds grow stronger.
I have seen this video before, what happened? Did the first one get deleted? I watched it all over again anyway.
If your paid, you need to do what your boss says. And when not it propably is a hobby or some school project where you get to decide some of where you want to go with it. Without money they have no strings on you.
is it possible that i get paid to translate the video to turkish/Arabic?
the tourist n the fisherman have different life goals. One question that would be interesting however, would be " if u had a robot n it could go work for u" would u or it get paid? in either case I wonder how different would our society be if such robots existed.
do you work to live or live to work