Learning to Knee Drag in 5 Minutes Start to Finish | Beginner Honda cbr 600rr
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Today on Jon's Moto Garagee I revisit the knee drag on the Honda CBR600RR. I tried my luck at it the other day and decided to call it quits because I felt a bit sketchy. After reviewing the footage and reading up on some techniques, I give it another shot. Keep in mind that I'm a beginner learning to get my knee down on a motorcycle --a sport bikes specifically--basically for the first time. This is not intended to be a how-to knee drag, but rather a documentation of my progress over the session.
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For a proper how-to knee drag on any bike, I recommend checking out MotoJitsu (Fast Eddie). He knee drags everything from a Liter bike to a Harley Street Glide (I kid you not).
Again, this is the newbie virsion of learning how to knee drag in about 5 minutes (I spent about 10 minutes trying it the session prior).
Enjoy!
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I obviously still need TONS of practice, but let me know which bike I should try to knee drag next? And yes, I will eventually learn to drag the right knee as well. Thanks for watching!
Honda Grom
Need to lean more lol
How did you do that exactly ?!!!
The most faster ride on cycle the most going down from the bike or ?!!!
I tried but My knee is not going down that far ,
May you share a little more information please ?!!!
May you have to ride fast to get your knee down or not ?!!!
Can you please reply ?!!!
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@@holybutterfly8495 check out moto jitsu on RUclips. He does lots of vids on getting a knee down. 💯👌
For those learning…don’t attempt to TOUCH the ground. That’s not the idea….you should just start dragging as a consequence of having the correct cornering fundamentals!
I know this is an old post, but I appreciate your humility and perseverance- I'm working on the same in parking lots and on track. The bikes are so capable- we're the limiting factor.
I love the comment section. Everyone complimenting each other while sharing each other their own experiences and tips. Thanks guys for being great in the community!
I'm waiting for my gear to arrive but in the meantime I will try this with my shorts hopefully I get it the first time
Hahahaha...
Yo are u alive?
In ur dreams.😀
😂😂
"Nothing I'm doing is safe so don't try this at home" my life in a nutshell
Having a dead end street like that is awesome for practice. If you let up on the throttle a bit (lower maintenance throttle) your radius will tighten up at the same lean angle. When you went a little wide near the sidewalk it looked like you tried to stand the bike up. Let off the throttle and stay committed in the turn. Your radius is directly related to your speed. Keep up the progression, you are going to be a great riser 😎
That was awesome! I am working on getting my knee down as well and I am almost there. I believe bad form is the reason I have been unsuccessful, I am riding over the wear markers at the edge of the surface of my Dunlop’s. I heard you remind yourself with “body, head, bike, I have watched those videos too!
You are there, I believe your form will get better naturally as you practice more. Look out Lorenzo, Marquez and Rossi!
Hahaha! Thanks, man! Yeah, Greg from motojitsu was my inspiration for trying these. Sadly I haven't gotten out a ton ad of late. I sold the cbr a while back, but got some solid knee drags on my goldwing and a few other bikes. Thanks for watching! Keep me posted on how you do! Ride safe!
Turn your head man. You're looking straight ahead, look where you want to go
And shoulders through the turn
Teachers in the comment section
His head looks turned to me...
maybe he rolled with eyes
countersteering (push your bars away from the turn direction) will get the bike to drop down , but you still need centrifugal force to keep you from falling over. You are looking for lean ANGLE not just saying you hung off enough to touch your knee down. When you have it down, youll do elbow drags no problem.
Thanks for the tips!
Matt B so that’s only in turns/corners? Cuz When I head down a road..pushin the right bar makes a bike go right
@@TreGC69 Yes. You probably already countersteer while in a turn subconsciously, but pressing out more will cause it to really drop so be ready for it and have enough speed to do it without falling over. Id suggest run frame sliders, have full gear on and try it on a VERY large parking lot such as an empty shopping mall or an arena parking lot. You wanna be going over 30mph to have the proper centrifugal force to keep you from just falling over, doing it in a col-de-sac doesnt allow enough speed to drop down. I learned it spening a lot of time on cloverleafs later at night when nobody is going on or off the freeway
Matt B ah makes sense, it straightens the front wheel n allow for more lean. Thanks for the reaponse
@@TreGC69 As Matt B said, you actually want to stand the bike up by pushing it away - the reason motogp riders an the like hang off is to actually keep the bike itself as upright through the corner as possible. Think of it as you are hanging off in order to hold the bike upright/centred as possible not actually lean the bike.
I like that you're repeating Fast Eddie's mantra here. He is a pro, & a great teacher. Keep riding tough. I'm going to subscribe to you, bro. Your attitude has earned another sub.
Thanks, brotha! Fast Eddie single handedly inspired me to actually practice skills like this - what a novel idea. Lol. Unfortunately the wheelies have kind of taken over my time as of late. Thanks again for the support!
That was helpful. I just don't get people that thumb down a video like this. You can always take something away from it that you can use.
Thanks, man! The down thumbs are just part of youtube. Lol. There always have to be a few trolls out there. 🤙😎
Glad to see you got your knee down. The more you practice, the better you will get. And the more time you have on that bike, the more comfortable you will be to practice things like counter-steering and riding positions. If you really want to get some great experience, you should do some local track days. There, you will have a lot of other people that can help you and you will also be in a much safer environment to practice. Also, the track will have big long turns so you can get your tires nice and hot, that way you won't low-side. With the big long turns, you will have plenty of time to lean the bike over further and the further over the bike is, the easier it is to drag your knee.
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, I'd love to hit a track day at some point. Unfortunately at the moment, I don't have a sport bike that's my daily driver. The cbr in this video was one I was flipping and it sold pretty fast (good thing I didn't lay it down. Lol). Surprisingly, the honda goldwing and harley fatbob were two of the easier bikes to knee drag on. Anyway, I definitely need to get to a track and dial in the proper technique. Like you said, a much better--and safer--environment for learning and practicing. Thanks a bunch for watching and commenting! Ride safe, brother!
Hi Jon! You should make a video on "how NOT to make your neighbors hate you as a gearhead"
Looking further around/across/ahead...where you are going with chin slightly higher will help, for those also learning this skill.
In England we have things called round abouts.
Hahaha! We have those here but they're hard to come by. Lol.
So much debris 🤦♂️
Those are in America too you know.
I saw a legit round about for the first time the other day haha
Roundabouts is the last place on earth you want to test your bike grip. Roundabouts usually have horrible asphalt.
6:15 good job
Thanks, brotha! Still needs lots of work, but I'll take it! Lol.
I'm 5"3 and the work was much harder but finally i got it, just keep trying and feel comfortable
yeah for us shorter guys we have to lean the bike over more, so you got to go faster so that you can lean more.
@@haiderali-wn1sn with the same speed, heavier guy need more lean. So we need more speed, plus shorter leg makes the work more difficult.
But, knee drag is just a small milestone, I need to practice more and more
Nice. I’m just starting as well. Helpful to see someone try that’s not an old pro
Practice with your Grom. Once you get that down, the bigger bikes will come naturally. Keep up the good work!!!
Thanks man! Yeah, the grom is a much more forgiving bike to work with.
@1066Rider hahaha...too funny, brother! Thanks for watching!
Take your time and progress slowly, you will get there. Oh and you need to move your knee pad to the outside.
Has anyone ever mentioned how cool your neighbors must be with all the bikes, and how great it is that you live in a cultisak , which is perfect for safety.
Also, if this is difficult and scary for you, then it's MUCH harder than it looks because you are such a good rider. I have NEVER ridden a wheelie other than on my BMX bike in the 80's.
your body position was sick for first time. I drag knee alot of people do. not many can stick the helmet out past the side of the mirrors and stay in it. means you are looking in the right spot. good shit man
Lee Parks….TOTAL CONTROL
Great class!!!
Noticed your toes weren't turned into the bike. With your toes turned into the bike this will give your knee a much more natural angle to hang it out at. I would also try it in 2nd gear as this will make the bike more stable when slight tweeks on the throtle are made.
Good looking out and thanks for the tips! I'll have to give that a shot.
You did pretty well for someone who hasn’t practiced much. Now I want to try🔥🔥 Good vid
Glad to see you don't have a ton of haters. We have to start somewhere.
Exactly! We all have to start with the basics. Thanks, brotha!
Well done Jon, I enjoyed the video and you getting your knee down 👍
It’s alll in the motion you’ll get it man hell yeah
Dude good job, not gonna act like these street Rossi's all over the internet. Agree with you, if you have a nice sweeper where you can go in with some more speed you can call it a day!
wow good job man that was impressive and inspiring. hopefully i am next up to knee drag
Don't you get a bit dizzy from circling so much? Also, you must have very cool, tolerant neighbors ;)
Yes and yes! hahaha... also, I don't do this on the daily. Lol. But yes, I talk to and have good relationships with all the neighbors. I always be sure to ask if I'm causing too much of a ruckus. They're super rad!
I am dizzy watching lol.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Most neighbors would be calling the police... I would be getting the popcorn and lawn chair and waiting for when you're going outside next!
Fast Eddie is the man!
Heck yeah! He's the one who inspired it all! I'm not sure this is what he had in mind though. Lol. (me running circles in my front yard)
Grove St. Has changed a lot.
Grove st? I feel like I'm missing a reference here. Lol.
@@JonsMotoGarage Yes lol from the video game GTA San Andreas. Just do a quick RUclips search of "CJ and Grove St" or just "San Andreas Grove St".
Think you're saving too much tire angle, if you warm your tire up and do it on the normal road, you can easily knee down by just leaning your lap on the outside tank, by that much movement on body position I might already down my elbow.
But still a great tutorial btw
I was just watching motojitsu and he also mentioned body head bike, great vid and you looked great, not as scary anymore seeing you do it 👍🏼
Badass bike.
That's really good. Best to do both directions though to be comfortable with both. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Awesome!
On a CBR600RR? Well done!
That was cool man, I am still afraid to try...thanks for sharing.
I dont know if you nailed it bro, but turn your shoulders more into the direction your going, drape that outside arm over the tank, head and shoulders in the direction you're going.
Thanks for the pointers, brother! This was one of my first runs (I still need lots of practice), and I definitely needed some body position adjustments. Lol. I've since made some improvements on the honda goldwing, of all bikes. It's been a while since I got out though. Thanks again for watching and commenting!
I WANT MY KNEE DOWN TOO ON MY CBR900RR, I NEED TO PRACTICE MORE. I LIKE THE WAY YOU DO IT WITH YOUR BIKE, THANKS FOR THE VIDEO.
Check out MotoJitsu (youtube channel). He has some great tutorials and was my inspiration for trying it. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Subscribed to you coz I as well am new to knee dragging keep it up man would love to watch ur progress
Thanks brother! We gotta start somewhere. Lol.
Neighbors be like “what the fuck is he doing now”🤔
Hahaha!
Fantastic very goods!!! SHOW MEN CONGRATULATION!!!!
the sliders are not supossed to be located in ur knee, they have to be under in the external part of the knee, 1:07 these are not sliders
I'm not an expert bike rider due to my countries roads but the only reason I see you aren't getting your knee down easier is because you aren't letting it happen naturally, your too conscious about this goal and you are forgetting counter steering, if you counter steer enough and just let your knee be in a triangle your body will start learning to use your knee as an instinctive precaution to not crash. All the best 👍
Awesome
Nicely done bro
Thanks, man! Suer sketch, but making progress!
got the same bike a few months ago :D getting closer to dragging that knee
Nice! I sold this bike a while back, but just picked up another cbr600rr. I'll have to get back to the knee drag!
Try having tank knee St clicking pads. That here very easy to put on.
Very understanding neighbours! :)
Well done though.
Watching a lot of MotoGP those past weeks, I tried to adjust my position to match what I saw: not locked up with the knee but the part slightly before, chest resting on the tank, inside foot along the bike so it doesn't drag. It feels so much more stable, and also impressive as your head gets closer to the ground.
Posing the video at 2:37, I find that your position looks correct (though I'm no expert myself). I think you just need to drop your shoulder and elbow a tad lower (head closer to the inside hand, elbow closer to the knee). You might need a bigger area to practice, like an empty car park, and trust in your tyres and lean that bike! ;)
Heck yeah! Thanks for the tip/info! I've since sold the cbr, but have pulled it off on a few other bikes (mostly cruisers). Surprinslingly, the sport bikes are the most intimidating ones to try it on, cause you really lean over. Yeah, I definitely need a bigger area and more practice. Thanks, brotha! Ride safe!
Looking good bro. I am trying to get my first knee down, or I should say the right body position for the knee down but I am afraid my bike will slide lol so strange.
Thanks man! Since trying these, I learned to look over my shoulder/turn my head more, which helps tremendously (check out my fatbob and honda goldwing knee drags for better body positioning). Also, if you haven't already, check out motojitsu (RUclips channel). That was my inspiration and he teaches/demonstrates how to do it safely. What bike are you riding?
Also me bro...I'm always pushing away rather than committing to the lean and following through...and I'm more comfortable with the left than my right
@@creativemechanic1565 yeah, I definitely need some more practice. I've only done the right knee on my honda grom. Lol.
same here.
Yjour butt is bit to low, lean the bike more it'll make you easier to get your knee down. but be careful not to tip the bike over. anyway good video!
Correct
Nice work 👍
Thanks, man! Still very sketchy. I ended up selling the cbr so haven't been out practicing on it since. I appreciate the support!
I'm getting dizzy just watching
Hahaha..no kidding. Thanks for checking it out. I have an affiliate link for dramamine in the description. Lol.
Please tell me the model of your Astar jacket
3 years are passed so I bet that your technique improved a lot, anyway referring to you in the past 😁 turn your head and torso in the direction where you want to go, relax your arms, try to keep your elbows below your wrists, for everyone that is watching this video learn from his mistakes: he was able to drag the knee but the technique was poor.. Try to learn the right techniques, drag the knee it's secondary and with the right techniques it will come anyway..
try less speed tighter turn, should be good for space then.
Thanks for the pointers. I'll have to give it a shot. Unfortunately I sold the cbr600rr a while back. Have a cbr1000rr at the moment. Time to get back to work! Thanks for watching!
You should watch the Chico Lorenzo Channel. You'll learn how to drag knee real quick.
Thanks for the info! I'll have to check it out. I think someone else had mentioned it as well! Thanks for watching!
I just watched one of his vids. HOLY SMOKES! I'm hooked! Lol. Thanks again for the recommendation.
Hey guys, just watched the video and great job.... reading comments and seen this one mentioning “Chico” but I’m the try that needs to listen and understand lol
Is there an English version of his channel lol
chico lorenzo channel is in bloody spanish. hows one supposed to understand
@@eze1738 i happen to speak/understand Spanish, but just watching the technique is helpful even if u dont.
You don't need to drag knee for fast cornering..It looks cool but sometimes loose time and speed.. Good
video shot and practice
Nicely done man! Dont you get dizzy from going in circles though!? Ive been practicing the same thing but doing figure eights, i cant go around in circles like that haha
Good call! I need to find a good parking lot and try the figure 8's. Thanks for checking out the vid!
@@JonsMotoGarage yeah no worries mate! Ive been inspired by chico lorenzo's racing school lately which is all about mastering riding techniques while doing simple figure eights. If it worked for his son jorge and turned him into a motogp god then surely us mere mortals can benefit from it too right!?
@@julianhunter9455 hahaha! No kidding! I need to look into that!
It's bin day! 🤞
I don't get why people want to "get their knee down". It doesn't make you go faster. What makes you go faster is going faster, to the point where putting your knee down becomes a necessity.
good job!!!!! Your a little crazy - but i love it
All the comments saying “lean the bike over more” just keep in mind when doing this that the bike has less traction when leaned over that far and it doesn’t take much to low side. My brother just totaled his fz09 because he leaned to hard and didn’t hang off enough. Hit a tiny little dip in the road and lost traction. That was all it took.
Where did you get your sliders from? What brand are they? Thank you and I really liked it.
Thanks, brotha! I picked up cheap knee pads from walmart. Lol. I do not recommend it - they're not built for this. I'm sure you can get some solid sliders online.
Are you using just generic home depot style knee guards?
Lol. Yeah, from Walmart. I don't recommend it.
Did you ever let off the throttle ? Did you just keep a steady maintenance throttle?
Hello, could u pls let me know how big the circle u did practice? Im finding a place for the same practice, thanks
Your technique is bad because you don’t have on proper sliders. The thickness of the slider will allow you to touch the ground without having to hang so far off the bike and maintain control without leaning the bike over as much...
I have same gear wd u, just moto jeans..what brand of knee pads/pucks are u using?? Much thanks
Grove Street, home...
Can you do sym jet 4 125 pls
practice more on goig fast and leaning more.. eventualy ur knee will get down by not stressing it. or obviously try to get ur kneedown
Right on! I don't get out often to practice, but will keep at it as time permits. Thanks for the tips/motivation!
This was the biggest parking lot you could find?
Lol. The only place where I could convince my wife to tag along and film.
I found a big one first time I dragged my knee i hit a small bump and low sided
Is it painful ?
Use tyre warmers
Hi, nice to see you succeeding. What speed one shall maintain though? I got cbr600rr 2008 and need to practice this
Thanks, brotha! This was a while back and I haven't practiced again on a sport bike. I definitely need practice. You should check out chicho lorenzo. It's all in spanish, but he has 8 yo kids doing knee drags on 600cc sport bikes! Pretty crazy stuff. MotoJitsu (youtube channel) also has some awesome stuff as well. He was my initial inspiration to try.
Que paso amigo? Do you put any pressure of your feet to keep bike stable?
what jacket?
Genuine question: What is it that is stopping the bike from tipping over when our body weight plus the bike itself is already lopsided but it won't drop during the knee down?
physics, most basic answer is that there is an equal amount of force that wants the bike to fall on the opposite side of the corner
What is the speed that is minimum for you to have your knee touch the ground?
did you use the clutch or only throttle controle?
Hi, I have a question how did you managed the fear of leaning more far? I worked on my body position and it seems OK, I do everything right but can't go down over a certain point. When I accelerate I just bigger circles instead of leaning more and go faster on the same line... Is that a mind problem? I just do not believe in my bike it will handle the angle. I have a sport bike (R6) with a good Pirelli Rosso II Corsa tyres so the equipment is ok. What do you suggest? Thanks for the video.
Don't try to drag knee in a circle. It's completly dumb. Hit the track on high speed and your bike will lean in automatically with the right technique. I suggest to you to watch "twist of the wrist".
Did you conquer your fear? How'd you do it?
@@angrydinosaur8plus9 I bought a pitbike for training. Then on a big bike it went automatically :)
Does this work with 125cc. Especially Honda nsr 125
Ok, Rossi, cool vid... why do you need to drag yout knee? Are you gonna go 120mph through a corner? Well, pick the color of your casket, that shit will catch up with you. Im sure you'll look super cool in it with your knee out.
Maybe you could try to turn your shoulders a bit so you close the circle a bit
Have you ran the bike through those houses yet
What are these knee sliders you have?
you could accomplish same lean angle without putting knee down
how tall are you?
What speed was u at doing these circles?
I'm over here trying to drag knee on my tall ass supermoto, leaning like 50 degrees and still can't reach. Your'e able to drag knee at like 40 degrees on that bike dammit lol
Lol. Ive yet to try it on my sumo. Need to get new rubber before attempting it.
When u say beginner, I'm guessing it's with respect to knee dragging specifically.
what kind of knee pads are you using?
$20 pair from walmart. Lol. I wouldn't recommend em, but they worked for my purposes. Thanks for checking the vid!
Jon's Moto Garage lmao, thanks man. keep
up the good work.
@@NEEKSOPRANO Thanks bro! Ride safe out there!
Jon's Moto Garage of course, you
too!! stay safe.
@@NEEKSOPRANO Here's my first ever knee drag attempts vid. I made some improvement from the first sesh. Lol. ruclips.net/video/pPy6Ai-ZvaE/видео.html
wish my cul-de-sac was that clean