i wish the death of miranda wasn't inevitable. and i hope they will provide closure to the story of the ones who have been biotransformed with a dlc or in a sequel.other than that it was great for me.
This game was a mess. Minimal advertising, clearly abandoned romance options and a depressing Non Star Trek ending. It's Star Trek... where there is always a way to get a good resolution... the fact that you are locked in to a bad ending no matter what just isn't Star Trek.
@@madquest8 there is so little video game content being created for star trek, so honestly i'll bite everything they throw at me at this point. star wars has so much big video game titles, AAA games etc. there is almost nothing for star trek, and it has a huge fan base, i never understood that. Yes there is old FMV and some strategy games etc. But no third person game with modern graphics or something like that. Only things that are worth playing are this game and star trek online. There is also star trek bridge crew, but it's meaningless without VR and coop. So it doesn't count either. Same for the samurai/shinobi games or period games from 1600-1890 japan. I am huge fan. But the only game out there is ghost of tsushima (and the way of the samurai series but they are too old). Yes there is a lot of games with samurai and ninja in it, but they are not realistic games with realistic settings. They have monster magic etc in them (like Sekiro or nioh etc). That's not what i am talking about. Only one good game that has a real life setting is ghost of tsushima. And i can't even play that, because i am a pc gamer. Game developers spam horror games and survival/craft games like crazy. Are really 90% of gamers only interested on those genres? Why do they overlook so many other popular things with huge fan bases. Mind boggling. Sorry for the rant :) i agree that the endings doesn't sit well with Roddenberry's star trek. New tv series are also shit because of this issue, new showrunners cannot comprehend Roddenberry's star trek philosophy. Even the cinematography differs, new shows are darker, dim lights, more swearing, star trek officers are more prone to greed, jealousy etc. They push aside Roddenberry's evolved society, it's not just about being technologically advanced, it's also being advanced in humanity and society. New shows doesn't fit that description. So i agree that the endings of this game don't quite fit the description as well. But the introduction and development parts were good and enjoyable even though the result part sucked.
@@madquest8 The bigger problem isn't even that there wasn't a way to save the bioformed people - it was that the game literally forgot those people existed at the end. I wouldn't've been opposed on principle to the idea that the bioformed people couldn't be saved (an epilogue scene where Jara goes down to a planet where the bioformed Tkon are building a new settlement and meets Solano whose Tkon has taken on the role of their leader could've been interesting), but I wanted _something,_ man.
I didn't like how easily Bedrosian was willing to let people die. I understand she was upset about what they did to people, but it seems she forgot the principles of Starfleet. To let those people die on the ship goes against everything Starfleet believes in. Also, when Portal asks you to save his people and she wanted them to die too, it's insane. They were innocent, she was willing to destroy a race of beings due to personal prejudice of a few. She was never in my choices for First Officer. In my game I chose Westbrook to confide in about the Captain as since we didn't get along it would make more sense for him to be the one I need on my side. I got the same ending here for the best ending. So maybe I don't need to play again. I am sad that I couldn't save Diaz as I really liked his character. Also, I didn't get the option for Nili to be bioformed a I let Diaz get it as the ultimate sacrifice and to use the hypo as oppose to grabbing the gun to kill Miranda.
@Hans right she isn't mine either. I only did one of her suggestions at the very beginning but she was easily the worst character and maybe that's by design
As the story went I disliked her more and more. At one point she even blames me for losing her eyes and I was like, girl, you went on that pannel by yourself, I did not order you, so why blame me? Then how she is trying to strong arm me to do as she wants, worst starfleet officer ever... At the end, as she was not on her station and some else was there, I was so happy lol I don't need an officer on my ship that is ready to let people that are surrendering to die AND go for genocide. She should've been thrown out of SF for what she is like.
yeah, as a character in trek she doesnt work , unrealistic she'd be in that post, but as a challenge or lesson to a player to test their knowledge of trek and starfleets ideals she was a good mirror to hold up and play off... she had the worst human impulses
Bedrosian isn't Starfleet material. I'm not gonna kill billions of innocent sentient lifeforms, because it "might" make our job easier. Did she transfer straight from the USS Equinox?
“And to think I used to look up to you” umm I’m sorry what? In my play through I SAVED her eyesight and confided in her about the mutiny and she still acts like that? Yeah no get outta here lmao
Same hapened to me. Captain was bad. But he was a alien. It's kinda not his fault. But the girl just horrible in her job. She was gaving us worst choices all the time. And worse she put her EGO in situation like THAT. I was done with her. Fuck the bitch. I should save admiral.
You still can get the "best" ending even if Bedrosian is wearing the Visor and you destroy the Tkon archive, i think the only difference on ending is if either Diaz or Edsilar is bio formed and are or arent rescued with the other bio formed people and your command decisions while been captain
Oh man, i thought i messed up somewhere along the way. I got the "best" ending, but felt like i've missed a better ending. Now i know i did everything i could. It's a fine bittersweet ending, but hopefully a DLC will bring proper closure. I want Carter back :D The game was great! I kept making choices thinking "what would Riker/Picard/Geordie" do in this situation? And it aligned with my personal thoughts & felt good! Modern Star Trek should be more like this.
I'm not sure that's the best ending, to be honest.... while I got the same best ending, I can't help but feel like there is indeed a better one - where people converted by tkal can be reverted back to their real selves. Also - I wonder what happens if you have portal on your side and kill miranda - will portal still die, forcing you to inject tkal into yourself, or is there a way to the portal to survive? I do wish the save system was better, allowing us to experiment with various options, rather than having people replay the whole thing. Hopefully I can find a youtube video where those other options are explored.
In my playthrough, I shot Miranda instead of injecting myself. Portal was as allied to me as I could make him (I think). Yes, he still dies. Yes, you're forced to choose either Diaz or Edsilar to self-bioform (with the hypospray). Yes, whoever you pick (for me, Diaz), gets left behind as it plays out with the same remaining choices.
@@ermiretrek That's brutal. I keep thinking that there are more options. In Being Human, there were quite a few options/endings, while here.... I'm starting to think that the endings are nearly identical (in principle) - with only slight variations. This being a game designed by the telltale peeps, that shouldn't be too surprising. It's still a great narrative they came up with, but it's not as 'interactive' as I'd have liked it to be.
@@ermiretrek ruclips.net/video/iVZuc6U1q-4/видео.html Found what you were talking about - friendly portal, miranda killed and the rest is as you say - portal dies, mandatory injection, bla bla bla - so yeah - no choice - the ending is essentially the same regardless of what you do. Again, it's a well designed story - the ending is a tad on the gloomy side, but it is what it is. I keep thinking..... with Portal gone, and with all of the tkal shards being saved up - it'll only be a matter of time until the rest of the remaining tkal rebel, get the shards back and raise their army again. Say what you will, but their tech is vastly superior to anything else in present day. With no supernatural entity (portal) protecting the shards from being stolen, they are a ticking bomb awaiting to be unleashed onto the world by the Tkal.
@@realitycheck1086 They no longer have their superweapons. Also, the Tkal in the end were mostly not Scions. I don't believe they would go along with the paracite plan. I think they would end up becoming caretakers and advisors to the other races. You can see how Portal is very impressed throughout the story.
I had heard there's an ending where Rydek doesn't make captain. Seems unlikely given the limited nature of the game, but any ending where you don't accept an enemy surrender would probably get you a court martial in Starfleet. I would be more surprised if they didn't have a regulation requiring it. It's a great game. I wish they had a bigger budget allowing more branching choices. maybe next time.
For what it's worth, I got the same ending as the "best" ending despite allowing Itasca to die and killing Urmott, so those two choices don't seem to affect the game's outcome. In my defense, killing Urmott was an accident: I hadn't expected a lethal choice given that phasers _should_ need to be reset from stun to kill, and this was one of those "do something now" moments. I assumed I was just going to be shown a prompt to fire with no other options, so I pressed the button as soon as I saw it before reading. Oops.
Loved this game reminded me off indoctrination from mass effect, Bedrosian what and asshole of a character liked her at the start but damn she just wanted everyone dead, didn't know they accepted sociopaths into starfleet. (I let her go blind, needs of the many and all that.)
Brutal endings, no way to save Miranda, no way to save Carter and no Lesbian romance options for the Captain and her two squeezes... otherwise it was great... apart from the transporter mini game which sucked. And that it's like a telltale game in that there is only the illusion of choice and too many things you cannot change. Replay value = zero.
@@freylaverse It's pretty obvious she was set up to have two romance options, same as Carter, but they only had time to do one for Carter, must have been pressured to get the game out, so we suffered from a lack of branching stories... real shame.
Is there a way to save Diaz, Nili, and Miranda? Hell, I’d be happy to pay for dlc that opens up more story options and maybe a true best ending and true worst ending, save everyone or doom everything options.
So basically there's just TWO choices, the bad with portal 63 that betrays. the good with portal 63 that helps but still get killed. Basically the same ending.
Rank does not automatically mean you're the boss. O'Brien was a Chief Petty Officer and yet he commanded Ensigns and Lieutenants engineers in his department on DS9
Obviously, you haven’t watched season 3 of DSC. Ensign Sylvia Tilly became acting first officer with multiple officers of Lt Commander rank and higher serving on the ship. It’s not about rank or seniority, but rather who the captain trusts the most and is most comfortable with to carry out his or her orders and to give advice and to be captain if the need arises. As for this particular situation, the lieutenant should have been promoted in rank as well as position by the acting captain. AND why isn’t she wearing the command division red shirt now that she’s an XO?
@@thomashong2938 Yes, if she gets promoted, it makes much more sense. And I stopped watching Disco after Season 2, it was just too bad, just like the Kelvin movies were. It looks like Picard Season 3 and Strange Mew Worlds are slowly making Star Trek great again.
@@thomashong2938 Tilly's stint as XO is a bad example because it should never have happened. It was a decision made entirely for real world reasons: they wanted a core character to be XO instead of a minor character, given the XO's importance on the ship. That much makes sense. Problem was, they didn't have any core characters that were suitable for the position, so they wrote Saru making a decision that no Starfleet captain (who wants the trust and loyalty of his senior officers) would ever make. Then they made it worse by having everybody be inexplicably okay with it. In short, it was just really, _really_ bad writing.
So if you made Urdnott First Officer may I assume its Westbrook who ends up getting bioformed? Assuming you also saved th Tkon souls so Bedrosian resigns and isnt an option?
I thought that if you transported all the storage devices onto the ship, then you would have the enemy in your hands (as in Star Trek Beyond where you hold all of Khan’s family) and yet Galvan still says he’s going to crush you? Weren’t the storage devices their bioforming ammo? Also, I really thought they put a trill on the cast to suggest consensual submission to bioforming, but she actually didn’t even approve of symbiotes. I guess it was never to actually be on the table. Lastly, I am surprised there was never a scene where they outright say why bioforming is wrong, they just assume that all species have universal values. It seems not very Star Trek if they don’t call out violation of autonomy. Nevertheless I was impressed with this game. It really emphasized how all choices have consequences. I also liked how you can learn how to work a tricorder and a transporter.
They went down to the planet together but we don't really know what exactly happened down there. Maybe Spock went to talk someone in private or maybe Solano was ambushed while he was on the shitter. Plenty of possibilities ^^
That Solano really had shitty luck. He was gunning so hard for a big break to set up his career and instead he got a mind break. Even if he was a selfish douchebag that was a fate worse than death. Now he will rot in some Starfleet prison. But so will the rest of the tkon prisoners. Sometimes even if you make the best decision you cant save everyone, just like in real life. Damn this game had some good writing!
I had hope, trough this entire game that they would explain how a powerful species like this has went extinct and no, the supernova makes no sense since that can't get a species that is galaxy wide go extinct. Its impossible.
To be fair, I feel the death of Miranda and Carter's assimilation is fitting. I mean, he loses the woman he loves/is really great friends with and then saves someone he deeply cares for and an ally to the fleet before becoming nothing. It's like Romeo and Juliet but with more heroic acts. Cos the alternate is Miranda dying and then he loses his friend to assimilation too (I would argue that's a worse ending, being a coward and losing two people in one day).
Badrosian...has no idea how lucky she is. First officer of a ship...as a mere lieutenant. As first officer she is literally able to order all the other officers around. This is ridiculous when you consider that she still only has two pips in the final scene...but I guess the captain makes the rules. I wonder how many records she just broke.
I really enjoyed the game, I regret sucking up to Solano for so long. I pretty much played the game blind but heard how much people hated bedrosian (I agree with them now). Also can someone help me understand if I killed Urmott, I chose to stun him but I didn't see him at all after that, did I kill him? The final scene with Carter hit me HARD, Nili telling him that hes always gonna be family was rough, I thought I got one of the bad endings.
I loved the game but the way the crew talks back to Rydek, especially when she's captain is goddamn ridiculous. They'd be in the brig or demoted for that kind of talk normally.
That was a real bummer of an ending honestly. And Bedrosian shouldn't be in Starfleet, but it also stunk that Urmott was that petty about choosing Westbrook. I get that they wanted things to feel consequential but it feels out of place to not have even a hint of working to reverse the bioforming and all that.
Doesn't seem so, considering that she's effectively the final boss of the game. I will give props to the game for keeping up with all the reaction portraits for her, though: it _really_ makes you think it's possible to save her somehow.
Technically miranda is indoctrinated since the start of the game probably the reapers did it not miranda lawson she is Alice in mass effect but this miranda is not I actually kissed her but not anymore I Don't kiss indoctrinated women.
@@Tantalus010 Yeah, i hoped to reverse the bioform process until the end... but the story isn't over, there sure is more to come. Too bad about Miranda, but that's a very Star Trek move. You can't save them all.
I am not watching much as to not spoil myself but do the choices in this game actually matter in a bigger way than it did in other Telltale games? Atleast as much as stuff like Dark Pictures or As dusk falls?
From what I can tell there are several choices that do change some outcomes drastically but if you are asking in general I think that most of the choices end up being cosmetic in nature ( meaning it doesn't alter the end story much ). If you were to ask me my opinion, I'd say that this was an interesting Star Trek story that uses a character from a pretty amusing episode of TNG titled The Last Outpost.
Having finished the game, like most other telltale stories the choices are mostly narrative and relationship based. The ending itself has about as much variance as Mass Effect. Different choices pretty much play out with 'who lives' at the end.
Would have been cool if the Captain would have made a slightly different ending speech depending on your mostly good or mostly terrible choices. Like if she would be more stern and cynical if you went with bad decisions to show that she was affected by the death toll. All in all a great game, but the choices only affect certain characters and dialogue lines. The ending remains the same.
I want to replay it and make all the worst decisions possible. I did, however, blow up the tkon life forms, I sealed the door, and I shot miranda, thinking they were all the best decisions at the time.. haha
instead of saving her, you order them to complete the teleportation of the alydians. so plasma burn from the conduit burns her face and eyes. doctor arrange a prosthetic like the one geordi la forge uses in TNG.
@@Dzsorden1 i sorta couldn't help but go along with the "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” philosophy as a massive vulcan fan. the death of 15 people outweighs the facial burn of a star fleet officer who is literally there to help others as it's her duty. Also she was the one who grabbed the conduit with her bare hands, nobody ordered her to do so, and i think it would be disrespectful and belittling to ignore someone's attempt to be selfless.
@@realitycheck1086 I gave the game too much credit and hoped that waiting until the last possible moment to save her would allow an outcome where I could both save Liara AND the transported aliens. Sadly, no. One or the other.
@@fgtrhwu2 Yes, its just a game that we're discussing. Point is she is a horrible person so why would you even want to keep her around? She wanted to commit genocide on a race and wanted to let people that surrender and were begging for help, to DIE! If its "just a game bro" it does not mean we can't discus characters. If not, why even ask questions here...
Because it goes against the absolute core principles of the Federation to protect and value all life, no matter what. The Tkon who were in the vault were not Scions. Portal make it very clear.
So, the best ending is the one in which you royally piss off your most dedicated fan to the point they leave you for all time? How painfully appropriate for modern day Star Trek.
i wish the death of miranda wasn't inevitable.
and i hope they will provide closure to the story of the ones who have been biotransformed with a dlc or in a sequel.other than that it was great for me.
This game was a mess. Minimal advertising, clearly abandoned romance options and a depressing Non Star Trek ending. It's Star Trek... where there is always a way to get a good resolution... the fact that you are locked in to a bad ending no matter what just isn't Star Trek.
@@madquest8 there is so little video game content being created for star trek, so honestly i'll bite everything they throw at me at this point. star wars has so much big video game titles, AAA games etc. there is almost nothing for star trek, and it has a huge fan base, i never understood that. Yes there is old FMV and some strategy games etc. But no third person game with modern graphics or something like that. Only things that are worth playing are this game and star trek online. There is also star trek bridge crew, but it's meaningless without VR and coop. So it doesn't count either.
Same for the samurai/shinobi games or period games from 1600-1890 japan. I am huge fan. But the only game out there is ghost of tsushima (and the way of the samurai series but they are too old). Yes there is a lot of games with samurai and ninja in it, but they are not realistic games with realistic settings. They have monster magic etc in them (like Sekiro or nioh etc). That's not what i am talking about. Only one good game that has a real life setting is ghost of tsushima. And i can't even play that, because i am a pc gamer.
Game developers spam horror games and survival/craft games like crazy. Are really 90% of gamers only interested on those genres? Why do they overlook so many other popular things with huge fan bases. Mind boggling.
Sorry for the rant :) i agree that the endings doesn't sit well with Roddenberry's star trek. New tv series are also shit because of this issue, new showrunners cannot comprehend Roddenberry's star trek philosophy. Even the cinematography differs, new shows are darker, dim lights, more swearing, star trek officers are more prone to greed, jealousy etc. They push aside Roddenberry's evolved society, it's not just about being technologically advanced, it's also being advanced in humanity and society. New shows doesn't fit that description. So i agree that the endings of this game don't quite fit the description as well. But the introduction and development parts were good and enjoyable even though the result part sucked.
@@madquest8 The bigger problem isn't even that there wasn't a way to save the bioformed people - it was that the game literally forgot those people existed at the end. I wouldn't've been opposed on principle to the idea that the bioformed people couldn't be saved (an epilogue scene where Jara goes down to a planet where the bioformed Tkon are building a new settlement and meets Solano whose Tkon has taken on the role of their leader could've been interesting), but I wanted _something,_ man.
I didn't like how easily Bedrosian was willing to let people die. I understand she was upset about what they did to people, but it seems she forgot the principles of Starfleet. To let those people die on the ship goes against everything Starfleet believes in. Also, when Portal asks you to save his people and she wanted them to die too, it's insane. They were innocent, she was willing to destroy a race of beings due to personal prejudice of a few. She was never in my choices for First Officer. In my game I chose Westbrook to confide in about the Captain as since we didn't get along it would make more sense for him to be the one I need on my side. I got the same ending here for the best ending. So maybe I don't need to play again. I am sad that I couldn't save Diaz as I really liked his character. Also, I didn't get the option for Nili to be bioformed a I let Diaz get it as the ultimate sacrifice and to use the hypo as oppose to grabbing the gun to kill Miranda.
I just worfed Bedrosian, didn't go for a single of her suggestions. If she lacks a spine, then it is best she is no longer my tactical officer.
@Hans right she isn't mine either. I only did one of her suggestions at the very beginning but she was easily the worst character and maybe that's by design
As the story went I disliked her more and more. At one point she even blames me for losing her eyes and I was like, girl, you went on that pannel by yourself, I did not order you, so why blame me?
Then how she is trying to strong arm me to do as she wants, worst starfleet officer ever... At the end, as she was not on her station and some else was there, I was so happy lol
I don't need an officer on my ship that is ready to let people that are surrendering to die AND go for genocide. She should've been thrown out of SF for what she is like.
yeah, as a character in trek she doesnt work , unrealistic she'd be in that post, but as a challenge or lesson to a player to test their knowledge of trek and starfleets ideals she was a good mirror to hold up and play off... she had the worst human impulses
Bedrosian isn't Starfleet material. I'm not gonna kill billions of innocent sentient lifeforms, because it "might" make our job easier. Did she transfer straight from the USS Equinox?
“And to think I used to look up to you” umm I’m sorry what? In my play through I SAVED her eyesight and confided in her about the mutiny and she still acts like that? Yeah no get outta here lmao
Let me guess, you transported the Tkon life-forms aboard the ship when Portal asked you to ... she really doesn't like that, lol.
Same hapened to me. Captain was bad. But he was a alien. It's kinda not his fault. But the girl just horrible in her job. She was gaving us worst choices all the time. And worse she put her EGO in situation like THAT. I was done with her. Fuck the bitch. I should save admiral.
@@ChengTeohshe’s also bloodthirsty I guess, she wanted to wipe out their entire population and the surrendered lmao she needs help
@@ChengTeoh That one annoyed me wish we could of phasered the ungrateful ass lol
She went from oh a scrappy but promising LTCM to someone I was happy resigned in my playthrough she quickly turned into an unlikable character.
You still can get the "best" ending even if Bedrosian is wearing the Visor and you destroy the Tkon archive, i think the only difference on ending is if either Diaz or Edsilar is bio formed and are or arent rescued with the other bio formed people and your command decisions while been captain
Oh man, i thought i messed up somewhere along the way.
I got the "best" ending, but felt like i've missed a better ending. Now i know i did everything i could.
It's a fine bittersweet ending, but hopefully a DLC will bring proper closure. I want Carter back :D
The game was great! I kept making choices thinking "what would Riker/Picard/Geordie" do in this situation? And it aligned with my personal thoughts & felt good!
Modern Star Trek should be more like this.
I'm not sure that's the best ending, to be honest.... while I got the same best ending, I can't help but feel like there is indeed a better one - where people converted by tkal can be reverted back to their real selves. Also - I wonder what happens if you have portal on your side and kill miranda - will portal still die, forcing you to inject tkal into yourself, or is there a way to the portal to survive?
I do wish the save system was better, allowing us to experiment with various options, rather than having people replay the whole thing. Hopefully I can find a youtube video where those other options are explored.
In my playthrough, I shot Miranda instead of injecting myself. Portal was as allied to me as I could make him (I think).
Yes, he still dies. Yes, you're forced to choose either Diaz or Edsilar to self-bioform (with the hypospray). Yes, whoever you pick (for me, Diaz), gets left behind as it plays out with the same remaining choices.
@@ermiretrek That's brutal.
I keep thinking that there are more options. In Being Human, there were quite a few options/endings, while here.... I'm starting to think that the endings are nearly identical (in principle) - with only slight variations. This being a game designed by the telltale peeps, that shouldn't be too surprising.
It's still a great narrative they came up with, but it's not as 'interactive' as I'd have liked it to be.
@@ermiretrek ruclips.net/video/iVZuc6U1q-4/видео.html
Found what you were talking about - friendly portal, miranda killed and the rest is as you say - portal dies, mandatory injection, bla bla bla - so yeah - no choice - the ending is essentially the same regardless of what you do. Again, it's a well designed story - the ending is a tad on the gloomy side, but it is what it is. I keep thinking..... with Portal gone, and with all of the tkal shards being saved up - it'll only be a matter of time until the rest of the remaining tkal rebel, get the shards back and raise their army again. Say what you will, but their tech is vastly superior to anything else in present day. With no supernatural entity (portal) protecting the shards from being stolen, they are a ticking bomb awaiting to be unleashed onto the world by the Tkal.
@@realitycheck1086 They no longer have their superweapons. Also, the Tkal in the end were mostly not Scions. I don't believe they would go along with the paracite plan. I think they would end up becoming caretakers and advisors to the other races. You can see how Portal is very impressed throughout the story.
I had heard there's an ending where Rydek doesn't make captain. Seems unlikely given the limited nature of the game, but any ending where you don't accept an enemy surrender would probably get you a court martial in Starfleet. I would be more surprised if they didn't have a regulation requiring it. It's a great game. I wish they had a bigger budget allowing more branching choices. maybe next time.
For what it's worth, I got the same ending as the "best" ending despite allowing Itasca to die and killing Urmott, so those two choices don't seem to affect the game's outcome. In my defense, killing Urmott was an accident: I hadn't expected a lethal choice given that phasers _should_ need to be reset from stun to kill, and this was one of those "do something now" moments. I assumed I was just going to be shown a prompt to fire with no other options, so I pressed the button as soon as I saw it before reading. Oops.
Loved this game reminded me off indoctrination from mass effect, Bedrosian what and asshole of a character liked her at the start but damn she just wanted everyone dead, didn't know they accepted sociopaths into starfleet. (I let her go blind, needs of the many and all that.)
Brutal endings, no way to save Miranda, no way to save Carter and no Lesbian romance options for the Captain and her two squeezes... otherwise it was great... apart from the transporter mini game which sucked. And that it's like a telltale game in that there is only the illusion of choice and too many things you cannot change. Replay value = zero.
I'll probably play it again a couple of times, but I'm also super bummed that Rydek couldn't get with Tylas lol. They had serious chemistry.
@@freylaverse It's pretty obvious she was set up to have two romance options, same as Carter, but they only had time to do one for Carter, must have been pressured to get the game out, so we suffered from a lack of branching stories... real shame.
You can save Carter by bioforming Nili. I haven't found a video for that yet though. Must be a very unpopular choice for obvious reasons.
@@Rendarth1
Yes you can save Carter 🙂. I have done it. And he is my favorite character in the game.
Is there a way to save Diaz, Nili, and Miranda? Hell, I’d be happy to pay for dlc that opens up more story options and maybe a true best ending and true worst ending, save everyone or doom everything options.
So basically there's just TWO choices, the bad with portal 63 that betrays. the good with portal 63 that helps but still get killed. Basically the same ending.
A Lieutenant as furst officer with a Lt. Commander and two full Commanders on the ship? LOL! :)
Rank does not automatically mean you're the boss. O'Brien was a Chief Petty Officer and yet he commanded Ensigns and Lieutenants engineers in his department on DS9
@@andreabruni5152 true. it's called experience. if newly graduated officers are wise enough they would value the sergeant's advices for example.
Obviously, you haven’t watched season 3 of DSC. Ensign Sylvia Tilly became acting first officer with multiple officers of Lt Commander rank and higher serving on the ship. It’s not about rank or seniority, but rather who the captain trusts the most and is most comfortable with to carry out his or her orders and to give advice and to be captain if the need arises. As for this particular situation, the lieutenant should have been promoted in rank as well as position by the acting captain. AND why isn’t she wearing the command division red shirt now that she’s an XO?
@@thomashong2938 Yes, if she gets promoted, it makes much more sense. And I stopped watching Disco after Season 2, it was just too bad, just like the Kelvin movies were. It looks like Picard Season 3 and Strange Mew Worlds are slowly making Star Trek great again.
@@thomashong2938 Tilly's stint as XO is a bad example because it should never have happened. It was a decision made entirely for real world reasons: they wanted a core character to be XO instead of a minor character, given the XO's importance on the ship. That much makes sense. Problem was, they didn't have any core characters that were suitable for the position, so they wrote Saru making a decision that no Starfleet captain (who wants the trust and loyalty of his senior officers) would ever make. Then they made it worse by having everybody be inexplicably okay with it. In short, it was just really, _really_ bad writing.
So if you made Urdnott First Officer may I assume its Westbrook who ends up getting bioformed? Assuming you also saved th Tkon souls so Bedrosian resigns and isnt an option?
Yes, you would be correct.
Did anyone have an issue with the audio quality of the dialogue on PC as everytime someone spoke there was a horrible crackling sound?
Had that happen on the Xbox
I thought that if you transported all the storage devices onto the ship, then you would have the enemy in your hands (as in Star Trek Beyond where you hold all of Khan’s family) and yet Galvan still says he’s going to crush you? Weren’t the storage devices their bioforming ammo?
Also, I really thought they put a trill on the cast to suggest consensual submission to bioforming, but she actually didn’t even approve of symbiotes. I guess it was never to actually be on the table.
Lastly, I am surprised there was never a scene where they outright say why bioforming is wrong, they just assume that all species have universal values. It seems not very Star Trek if they don’t call out violation of autonomy.
Nevertheless I was impressed with this game. It really emphasized how all choices have consequences. I also liked how you can learn how to work a tricorder and a transporter.
Well you can hardly can use it as a bargain chip if he only needs to hit you once, even before you can react.
How come Spock wasn't Bioforned when Captain Solano was?
Wasn't Spock with the captain at the time?
They went down to the planet together but we don't really know what exactly happened down there. Maybe Spock went to talk someone in private or maybe Solano was ambushed while he was on the shitter. Plenty of possibilities ^^
That Solano really had shitty luck. He was gunning so hard for a big break to set up his career and instead he got a mind break. Even if he was a selfish douchebag that was a fate worse than death. Now he will rot in some Starfleet prison. But so will the rest of the tkon prisoners. Sometimes even if you make the best decision you cant save everyone, just like in real life. Damn this game had some good writing!
@1:30:35 MARK "There has to be a price for ALL they've taken....CLOSE CHANNEL!!"- Jara Rydek
Now thats COLD-BLOODED!!😮
So with this ending it's probably a one shot game i ve really enjoyed it
Hmm I wondering of they plan a sequel from this plus poor Carter doesn't get lucky there.
Also I wonder if this following the comic story.
Comic is a prequel.
I had hope, trough this entire game that they would explain how a powerful species like this has went extinct and no, the supernova makes no sense since that can't get a species that is galaxy wide go extinct. Its impossible.
To be fair, I feel the death of Miranda and Carter's assimilation is fitting. I mean, he loses the woman he loves/is really great friends with and then saves someone he deeply cares for and an ally to the fleet before becoming nothing. It's like Romeo and Juliet but with more heroic acts. Cos the alternate is Miranda dying and then he loses his friend to assimilation too (I would argue that's a worse ending, being a coward and losing two people in one day).
Badrosian...has no idea how lucky she is. First officer of a ship...as a mere lieutenant. As first officer she is literally able to order all the other officers around. This is ridiculous when you consider that she still only has two pips in the final scene...but I guess the captain makes the rules. I wonder how many records she just broke.
So the Bioform can’t be reversed?
Right?? I kept waiting and waiting to find an answer. The ending to this game fucking sucked.
Sadly I don't think so.
@@ChengTeoh so we cant save Carter even he is still alive?
We don't know yet. Have to wait for a DLC or the sequel to find out.
DLC or Sequel is logical with the ending of game.
As another wise philosopher once said: Entropy wins. Entropy always wins.
I really enjoyed the game, I regret sucking up to Solano for so long. I pretty much played the game blind but heard how much people hated bedrosian (I agree with them now). Also can someone help me understand if I killed Urmott, I chose to stun him but I didn't see him at all after that, did I kill him?
The final scene with Carter hit me HARD, Nili telling him that hes always gonna be family was rough, I thought I got one of the bad endings.
I loved the game but the way the crew talks back to Rydek, especially when she's captain is goddamn ridiculous. They'd be in the brig or demoted for that kind of talk normally.
If I ever become a mumble rapper, I don't need face tats or rainbow dreads. I'll just color my hair white and name myself Portal 63.
Why is Westbrook on the bridge at the 1hr 31 minute mark? He’s supposed to be dead!
lol, I was as surprised to see him alive as you are.
What she doesn't like being like Geordi, he was a badass?
Anybody else notice dead Westbrook on the bridge?
Glad that someone noticed that, lol.
That was a real bummer of an ending honestly. And Bedrosian shouldn't be in Starfleet, but it also stunk that Urmott was that petty about choosing Westbrook. I get that they wanted things to feel consequential but it feels out of place to not have even a hint of working to reverse the bioforming and all that.
My question can Miranda survive?
It doesn't look like that's a possibility.
Doesn't seem so, considering that she's effectively the final boss of the game. I will give props to the game for keeping up with all the reaction portraits for her, though: it _really_ makes you think it's possible to save her somehow.
Technically miranda is indoctrinated since the start of the game probably the reapers did it not miranda lawson she is Alice in mass effect but this miranda is not I actually kissed her but not anymore I Don't kiss indoctrinated women.
@@Tantalus010 Yeah, i hoped to reverse the bioform process until the end... but the story isn't over, there sure is more to come. Too bad about Miranda, but that's a very Star Trek move. You can't save them all.
Well, the antagonist looks like Thanos and he's great.
Did you happen to post a walkthrough consisting of the best ending choices?
I am not watching much as to not spoil myself but do the choices in this game actually matter in a bigger way than it did in other Telltale games? Atleast as much as stuff like Dark Pictures or As dusk falls?
From what I can tell there are several choices that do change some outcomes drastically but if you are asking in general I think that most of the choices end up being cosmetic in nature ( meaning it doesn't alter the end story much ). If you were to ask me my opinion, I'd say that this was an interesting Star Trek story that uses a character from a pretty amusing episode of TNG titled The Last Outpost.
@@ChengTeoh Ok thanks for the reply!
Having finished the game, like most other telltale stories the choices are mostly narrative and relationship based. The ending itself has about as much variance as Mass Effect. Different choices pretty much play out with 'who lives' at the end.
Would have been cool if the Captain would have made a slightly different ending speech depending on your mostly good or mostly terrible choices. Like if she would be more stern and cynical if you went with bad decisions to show that she was affected by the death toll. All in all a great game, but the choices only affect certain characters and dialogue lines. The ending remains the same.
i really want the makers of this game to make a back to the future game!
They already did.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future:_The_Game
I want to replay it and make all the worst decisions possible. I did, however, blow up the tkon life forms, I sealed the door, and I shot miranda, thinking they were all the best decisions at the time.. haha
Kinda subjective as to the worst and best ending to be honest. Same result regardless which is kinda lame.
how did you put glasses on bedrosian?
instead of saving her, you order them to complete the teleportation of the alydians. so plasma burn from the conduit burns her face and eyes. doctor arrange a prosthetic like the one geordi la forge uses in TNG.
@@denizkendirci Thanks! Though I still think we should put Liara first, its good to know my options
@@Dzsorden1 i sorta couldn't help but go along with the "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.” philosophy as a massive vulcan fan. the death of 15 people outweighs the facial burn of a star fleet officer who is literally there to help others as it's her duty. Also she was the one who grabbed the conduit with her bare hands, nobody ordered her to do so, and i think it would be disrespectful and belittling to ignore someone's attempt to be selfless.
@@denizkendirci Agreed - had I know she'd survive, that would be my pick as well.
@@realitycheck1086 I gave the game too much credit and hoped that waiting until the last possible moment to save her would allow an outcome where I could both save Liara AND the transported aliens. Sadly, no. One or the other.
I’m still waiting for Boba Fett in Jedi Survivor.
Whats Rick doing there
I got the same ending despitr Bedrosian getting the visor.
How do you keep Bedrosian as a friend after she burned her eyes?
Why would you even want that? Just make friends with an airlock and put her in there...
@@xxan84 Relax, It's just a game
@@fgtrhwu2 Yes, its just a game that we're discussing. Point is she is a horrible person so why would you even want to keep her around? She wanted to commit genocide on a race and wanted to let people that surrender and were begging for help, to DIE!
If its "just a game bro" it does not mean we can't discus characters. If not, why even ask questions here...
@@xxan84 Just to explore all the possible options in the game
@@xxan84 Oh I laughed. Arvin u should relax it's just a joke bro.
Lt. Bedrosion was the worst. Insubordinate and Churlish
How is destroying the T'Kon Vault the bad ending?
Because it goes against the absolute core principles of the Federation to protect and value all life, no matter what. The Tkon who were in the vault were not Scions. Portal make it very clear.
How is genocide the good ending?
So, the best ending is the one in which you royally piss off your most dedicated fan to the point they leave you for all time? How painfully appropriate for modern day Star Trek.