@@crazypsychoamy1021 she got him killed? Or did Dick do? Or maybe rather the police after the first screwed up welfare check? How tf can you blame the mother and not Dick, who did the actual killing(s) or the police, who seemed to have sent the exact same and only two cops in the precinct, born without the sense of smell, to a house smelling like death milestones in every direction, Dick himself included?
@@belladonnahigh9206 it's always easy to blame the mother in these situations. I seem to see a pattern in true crime that so many people are itching to blame the mom for everything even when it doesn't make sense. It's tiresome lmao
@@crazypsychoamy1021 She said she called him when he was driving, already on his way to the house. So he didn't go to the house because of her call. He was already going there.
If that were my mom and I was missing for 2 days at a friends house and no one was answering the phones. Besides a friend who was giving different stories. Then she’d know something was up, track down the house and either get the police to go in or go in herself. I’d do the same thing for my kid. I wouldn’t be waiting for 2 days
For somebody who is supposedly obsessed with death, Richard sure did a lot to avoid it (not commit suicide, accept a plea bargain to avoid the death penalty, etc...).
Right? They are all a bunch of wannabes. These little shits always Cracked in combat. They were the one dropping stuff on their foot to break it or slam a hand in a door. They are literally always little punks.
@@user-tt6tu7dv6qmore like he kept pushing himself into this persona because he stayed submissive instead of standing up for himself and I don’t mean just bullying. Blaming this entire thing on “bullying” is very arrogant when it’s apparent there was a lot more problems.
The cops get calls every day to do home checks. We can’t legally enter the house. They didn’t have reasonable suspicion. The issue isn’t with the cops but the rules we must follow. The video is wrong at least in mass. We cannot enter a home on a welfare check unless allowed. And as far as qualified immunity that is only in civil cases. Doesn’t stop a cop getting fired or arrested
@@untroubledwaters2137 they had permission to break in from you after days then yes. After 12 hours with no homeowner permission I promise u that u are wrong. And even after days with an ex wife telling you to break in rather than a child of the occupant is a very touchy area
@@ransakreject5221 it literally stated in the video that the police had to means to go in with multiple calls for a minor and welfare check when they haven't heard from them in days. Plus the police even said they smelled horrible smells. The police just fucking sucked and dropped the ball
@@charliechurch5004 take a GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF. I sense some evil within. I don’t PRETEND to be a God fearing Christian, but I’ll leave you @Charlie “Church” with a scripture from your good book. NIV Matthew 7 1. Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4. How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5. You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
@@Bulls-eye4795 oh, thank u for clarifying, in a polite way. I still feel frustrated with the parents of these young ppl. I feel sad and upset that this happened. I'm a parent and I get emotional over this kinda thing, senseless violence.🥺
The sickest most disturbing part of this entire story is the fact that he spent DAYS in that house after the murders. His brain must have been in a severely deep state of shock for the majority of that time, otherwise I just cant fathom the the ability to consciously endure that reality of your actions with bodies under the same roof. Has to be one of the most spine chilling crime videos I've ever watched.
If you can find it watch the Web of Lies tv show episode about the Farmville Murders. its dramatized a bit but its more information about the case nonetheless
There is a very distinct odor that comes from a rotting corpse. It’s unmistakable if you’ve ever smelled it. Absolutely wretched smell. How the police, even if they don’t know that smell, didn’t think they should investigate it further while investigating multiple missing/unaccounted for minors, baffles me beyond belief. A pure cavalier attitude causing further trauma to that poor family.
Have you smelt it before!?😧 You're so right tho! Like wtf they didn't even try to get in contact with the homeowners at all! They just talked to some creepy kid and took his word when looking for multiple missing people! The police totally fucked up big time! I mean not that there was anything they could do but still!
I also don't understand how the father that came to the house looking for his "missing daughter" was able to just leave and go on back home. Mind blowing!! I would've kicked that damn door off the hinges for my daughter.
Every time I hear this story I’m infuriated. How does a welfare check consist of merely speaking to a teenage boy who doesn’t live at the residence? They didn’t take into account anything the mother said, treating her as an over anxious, protective mother who probably didn’t have anything to worry about. I hope they lose sleep. We all know our loved ones, if she normally would not go without checking in AND nobody at the residence could be reached… huge red flag. How did they miss the crime scene, how?
Agreed.... taking a minor, non residents word instead of insisting on speaking to the owners?! Ridiculous. Smh not that it would have made much difference but that poor mother constantly calling and getting nowhere... my heart hurts for their families.
So I use to talk to razakel and sicktantic. They knew Sam and Emma and razakel and sicktanic. All talk to each. By the sicktanick and razakel are nice people just different. They played match maker. They regret ever doing this. Razakel said look this is just music and I'm going to do this for Emma and Mel. I use to listen to horrorcore and write lyrics it helps release anger. But I got bored of the music also needed to step away because if murder is all you listen too it does something to the brain. I step away I'll listen to it sometimes. Lot of it is to demonic and the fan base is different good and bad way mostly bad because it draws the weirdos
@@Hardhatreptiles95 it's a lot like Death Metal in those regards. It's a catharsis for 85% of it's fans, a fantasy to 10% and a lifestyle to the 5% that chase everyone *else* away from it. I AM glad to see various stylings & techniques from both break into other genres though
As a parent- desperate times demand desperate actions. Police ignore, then I would tell them I'm going there and going in. Police would show up immediately.
Thank you for not blaming the music. Though it isn't my preference, I still appreciate that you held the individual accountable and not what he listened to.
From what I've seen, it's bad parenting that causes kids to rebel. Sometimes they rebel by listening to music their parents don't like and dressing in ways their parents don't like. That's why that type of music/scene attracts them. But it's the fault of bad parenting, not the music. Same with anti police and anti government groups. They're the result of bad policing and bad governing, causing ppl affected by it to start and join those groups.
Strict parenting, over parenting, helicopter parenting. Music was the only escape from my reality a lot of the time. I found comfort in artist like Tyler the creator. It’s not that I agreed with what he was saying but expressing himself in ways that I wasn’t really allowed. Wasn’t allowed to do alot so it was nice for someone to portray to be totally opposite of the life i was forced to live 🤮
Music? Wtf music? It’s always the Parents fault. It starts with genetics. Like before people fuck do you guys make a comprehensive list of everything that’s ran through your families? No one does but you can use your brain right?
@@shakeybonessrh maybe you haven't heard of other cases where law enforcement and lawyers blamed what defendants listened to, rather than the individuals. There are also instances where people have become suspects because they were deemed satanic due to their musical preferences, such as "The West Memphis Three". Placing the blame on musical interests is not novel, hence my post.
It’s so sad that Emma’s parents were supportive, and did everything right to protect her. So sad. The Farmville police seemed to have their head up their butts a bit. Kind of crazy.
It was way to damn late anyway. The problem is not the police! It's the rotten parents no showing their kids genuine love and affection and the gospel of Christ. The damage was already done.
Tina Tina Tina, what the heck are you talking about?? They did the exact opposite of what they should have done! Some things should not be supported. Ever. Learn this before you ever have any children or even babysit.
The way he talks in the videos is the maturity level of my ten year old daughter who has a developmental disorder. How anyone thought he was normal blows my mind.
I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around why anyone would let a 20 year old man not only visit, but stay the night in the house when he was there bc he was romantically interested in their 16 year daughter.
Some parents are way too accepting. They think "oh its just 4 years." Yes, but they don't realize that they're also in two completely separate stages of life.
So they can search your car if they smell weed, but they won't look for your missing minors, if he smells dead bodies while in the house. 🙄 unbelievable!
@@ionkno1893 when you say “they” and grouped all cops together as equals. They implies all because you could have say “these cops” meaning the cops in the story. And I know you didn’t mean these cops in this story because these cops didn’t smell any weed in any car.
@@tsteezy209 They do, it's all about money for the government now. They no longer protect and serve us, they serve a corrupt leadership. If you're a cop at this point you're guilty by association.
My heart breaks for Melanies mom!! She tried so hard to reach out for help and KNEW something wasn't right only to be simply pacified by the police. Infuriating. I can't imagine what it was like for her to hear the gut wrenching truth and details.
Yes, valuing societal judgement, road trips and possibly breaking and entering charges can be a real obstacle when you are worried about the safety of your child.
if i were her and he kept giving me the runaround about where my kid was, i would break into the fucking house even if it meant i went to jail to find my kid I really wouldn’t care!
Yea and she was so polite every time she called!! I would have drive down there immediately and probably would have ended up his next victim. I feel soooo sad for her! Thank god she didn’t lose her husband as well!
I mean yeah, in hindsight you can say that. To him, maybe he thought his daughter just wanted to stay longer and that they were out doing something. A parent wants to think that anything other than the worst happened. I would have walked around the house looking through the windows and calling the police if I got no answer.
@I_am_a_cat_ no way because people break into houses for less than that (that being a missing loved one), for money, valuables, copper wire, ain't no way in hell a trespassing or B&E charge would stop me from looking for my child. Especially considering the build up of events. And even if nothing is found, why drive all the way back home, why not get a hotel nearby? I cannot imagine not being near the last known location of my missing child. I lost my cat once in the woods in another state, luckily we got her back, but I was ready to stay behind on the trip over a cat lol
I was severely picked on and quit school. I ended up going back. My mother was a severe alcoholic that neglected me. I feel this doesn't make u kill people. He's just evil, nothing to figure out here.
Trauma affects different people in different ways. We know far too little about its effects and treatment. I don't think Richard was born 'evil'. I think like so many western serial killers, he was created by his environment. My heart goes out the families of the victims.
The police were so negligent here. The fact that they did not ask to speak to the home owner and did not notice any odour despite neighbours noticing it from much further away is ridiculous. Also the fact there were two missing minors involved one who's mother contacted the police regularly and yet she was met with nonchalance by officers. If I lived here I would be most concerned by the failures of the local police force as they fell very short of what is expected.
"Oh yeah, two minors are missing and neither of the two adult owners are here but this unrelated teenage boy is looking after things so seems legit to me" like WHAT were they thinking
I am a horror writer and often visit the dark corners of my mind. Despite this I feel no urge to kill anyone for real. I used to play guitar in a black metal band and none of us ever became disturbed killers. But I guess it's always nice to blame ones shortcomings on something, taking responsibility is simply too much for a sicky like this.
Morbid curiosity is what brings us all here. There's a thrill to listening, creating, and expressing dark and disturbing art. Especially in a way that we know we will not be victims nor perpetrators. But acting on a crime like this is beyond the illusion of art entirely.
@@GodNotReal (In general) there are people who admit to crimes like murder they didn’t commit as an attempt to get attention, it can be caused by lack of attention from family members or friends in childhood, it could start as destructive behavior (breaking toys, bullying siblings or classmates etc) and form into more violent behaviors as they get older (harm to themselves, siblings, animals etc) and in some cases it goes further over the edge ie breaking and entering, armed robbing and sometimes murder, some that can’t bring themselves to actually commit murder could admit to unsolved crimes to get attention whether it’s positive or negative
So, you influence people with low vibrational energies and then pass on all responsibility for your actions. It's about time you took some responisibility for your own actions. Your actions influence others.
Its almost like we abolished slavery or something. Cops can be just as lazy and incompetent and a fastfood worker. Yes law enforcement is corrupt! But what stopped her from driving her happy ass down to the house and breaking the door down?! Wasnt gas prices! Wasnt that she didnt know where! Oh, a breaking and entering charge!! Oh no, she might be on the news because her daughter might just be ignoring her!! Could you imagine the shame she wouldve felt if nothing was wrong?!
And they didn’t even do anything based off her calling. They went because he called about sounds, outside reports etc. just sick and sad. I pray for the families especially Ms Kathleen.
My mom had a well check done on me when I was a teen. The police demanded to speak with me, took me aside, asked me if everything was alright. That's a proper welfare check. This was severe negligence.
Im a recovering opiate addict alcoholic and pretty much any other drugs you can think of and I can tell you that mixture didn't cause this horrific act
I'm a little confused, if he didn't bathe for days after the murders and continued wearing the same bloody clothes, how did the police not see the blood stains on his clothes or his body during the welfare checks or when they investigated the noise in the basement? Also why would they not search the whole house to make sure it was clear along with the basement? The smell, might not have been as bad as neighbors made it sound, Mel's dad sat there for 8hrs. Then went home, surely he would have reported a strange odor considering he was trying to find his daughter, but the stink on the murderer was definately noticeable according to the tow truck driver. Police had several interactions with that psycho kid and didnt notice anything odd?
Exactly... Idk what's wrong with small town cops they seem to be so uncaring about the members of their community. You would think they would be more motivated to investigate suspicious smells/behaviors etc...
Apparently he had a jacket or something over his shirt most of the time. He crashed marks car at like 4am also, and the cops didn't even notice his shirt because of the one he had over it. They just gave him a ticket and said jog on.
Dude the quivering voice is such a red flag. I’ve known kids like him. I’m a death metal guy with some appreciation for horrorcore or death rap. It’s an escape, not a means to an end. This kid just took his teenage angst way too far. You get rejected, you write a song about it, not this crap.
@@cw5894 you did claim it as a fact “his quivering voice is fake” you are stating that it’s a fact that his quivering voice is fake bubba, if you said “I think” or “probably” then you wouldn’t be presenting it as a fact, you don’t have to say somethings a fact in order for you to present it as one, BUBBA
Those initial videos to Emma hit so off because that is exactly the type of awkward but friendly video I'd expect from a teenager "proving" to their online friend that they're not secretly a murderer or something. And yet, this was the result.
I couldn’t agree more, especially about your gut. It ONLY has your best interests in mind, can you say that for anything else? You gut doesn’t have a voice so it communicates to you any way it can!
Except that my mom would tell me "something bad is going to happen - I feel it" every, single time I wanted to do something she didn't want me to (which was anything that required me to leave the house 🙄..) and nothing ever did lmao.. except when she insisted I was "fine"
@@kims7287 She obviously was not in tune with her pineal gland and this reality. She was feeling alternate realities and not being able to distinguish them. Assuming she legitimately felt that way, she could have just had programming issues or lied.
The fact that he had spoken with police several times and not shown any nerviousness or a sign something was wrong says all I need to know about this sic kid..
welp, could this not being nervous stuff that u mention, come from the help of "demonic powers" or "dark forces" that he worshipped and sang about......or is it super natural power of white privilege working at his aid?! lol lol jk
Do you honestly believe the police's account on his behavior when they literally couldn't care less until they stumbled upon a gruesome crime scene that they knew they couldn't downplay? It sounds more like a very convenient excuse to me
@@canuckfan1745 as a white man who has been harassed countless times by police for just walking down the street as well as being beaten and arrested on madeup nonsense you're an idiot if you think being white gives you privilege with the police. Having and looking like you have money gives you privilege.
Idk how any parents have the patience to deal with their teens "rebellious devil worshipping" faze. I understand that it's a cry for attention, but the fact that they allowed her to write shit like that on her walls is wild to me.
She wasn't too bright. Same reason she oversold how much she loved the kid, invited him to her house, then ditched him at the concert and flirted with other guys. That's not very bright.
@@justinfowler5761 That's irrelevant to my comment and I don't know if I agree with that-- if you go to a heavy metal concert you're going to meet the kindest and most selfless people (speaking from experience).
I've heard a wise man say these words while listening to some mass shooting coverage "if your going to hurt or murder some one, just kill yourself, worthless piece of shit." Imagine if all those school shooters justed capped themselves instead of murdering their peers. Sure it's sad. But better than having so many families suffer due to one asshole.
I live in Virginia, and this is still one of the most shocking and awful things to happen in the entire state, especially Farmville, which is a rather small college town. My mom still talks about it. She asked me if i knew what horrorcore was because she was worried I'd meet someone like this guy. The entire thing just breaks my heart.
I remember my mom asked me the same thing about horrorcore just because I would go to hardcore punk and metal shows at the Modern Exchange, the venue where these people went to see their concert. I was never into ICP or anything like that.
I can assure you as a big fan of horrorcore (albeit only a few specific artists, none of which perform at that festival) that not all of us are crazy people, lol. I may listen to songs about murder and violence, but I actually have a lot of empathy for all people, no matter their race, gender, sexuality, etc. At the end of the day it's just music, and there are psycho fans for every genre - like that dude who was obsessed with Björk..
I've never, ever heard anything good coming from that kind of dark stuff certain people are into. NEVER. While they don't always turn into murderers, it's nonetheless rather obvious that it's not the best stuff to fill your mind with. Why would you do it? What possible rationale is there, for it? THERE...ISN'T...ANY, PERIOD. It's probably better to NOT do it (and that's a major 'no duh!'). There's nothing profound or scientific about it. It does no one ANY good to get into dark subjects/thoughts, etc.
@@noahhyde8769 I mean there is nothing good coming from mainstream singers and rappers either. To my knowledge these mainstream people have killed more people than people that listen to Horrorcore, punk, metal, rock, etc... Most of the mainstream crap is about drugs, gangs, shaking ass, etc... It also seems many of them are okay with drugging beverages at bars and raping women... Maybe don’t judge someone’s taste in music...You do you. If you don’t like it then don’t listen. You don’t need/have to understand because it has nothing to do with you. Anyway, Stay Blessed and have a wonderful day, sincerely.
That's so disgusting his clothes were soaked in rotting blood and he never changed them and just walked around smelling like that 🤮 I hated how he spoke too with that hissss like a ssssnake..so glad he was caught
He was a stinki boi prior to getting all that human gunk on him that's why he didnt get laid. He was a stinki boi after and getting non sexual body fluids all over his clothes from murdering.
Absolutely bizarre that the police dept did nothing despite the fact that it WASN’T his house and there was no sign of the actual homeowners or their child. Some random dude squatting there every time they came by for a welfare check and they’re like “everything checks out to us!”
Seems it’s quite common, the amount of times I’ve heard of welfare checks being done and the police leave without noticing the dead body in the back room, or the dying man on the floor. You heard the case of Ryan Waller where the cops claimed they couldn’t legally enter the house so just kinda did nothin, despite a young man being shot in the head and his gf being dead? And the Cleveland strangler; officers regularly checking up on him as part of his probation, yet no one noticed a bunch of dead women in his home?! You couldn’t make it up, it’s so ridiculous... horrifyingly shockingly despairingly ridiculous. 😔
Most of these police don’t care enough to investigate things thoroughly sadly. They’re just there to do their job, be above the law, and collect a paycheck 🤦🏼♂️
It’s understandable to have violent thoughts due to being bullied but acting on it is just psychotic. There’s no justifying taking an innocent humans life
Same but I act violently sometimes when I snap out like throwing the chairs and notebooks to my classmates. I had also violent thoughts of killing my bullies and classmates but I stopped myself. Sometimes, my violent thoughts are there but I am doing my best not to snap out.
someone could go through the exact same thing you went through and come out like this guy. its not evil, it's the difference in the way you react to situations. you didnt react violently because thats not how your brain decided to process what you were going through. other people have different genetic make ups and environments.
@@vicksus4809 how about just now giving a fuck about those people, once they know they wont get a reaction they stop. i was bullied because i moved a lot, and naturally after the 2nd time moving just started not giving a fuck about anything. surprisingly the bullying stopped then and i actually made "friends".
So if I hear someone write lyrics: The evil voices inside my head. They just want me to murder They want me to take lives on mass murder spree They love the smell of a body that’s rotten and decayed. Should just be looked over and not judged. Okay good to know… Question if you had a daughter and the boy she brought over wrote stuff like this. Would you want her hanging around him?
@@Area-5l Definitely not, and I'd be cautious making friends with someone like that. Point is that not everyone in certain bands is a murderer, you have to judge ppl individually.
@@Area-5l would I like it? No but teenagers are full of emotions and you can't blame a song for someone commiting a quadruple homicide. If you watch the programme about this case the band helped in everyway they could to find out wtf was going on and are actually pretty decent human beings and if you're wanting to go down the blame road why did the girls parents, one who was a Pastor, allow a boy they'd never met travel across the country to meet and stay with their underage daughter? Thats what I would of said a big massive No too.
Especially when they went through the house and he called because he was scared! How is such ignorance possible. In addition to the odor, 4 people were viciously k*lled and they don't notice? Unbelievable
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Yeah I gotta say, if my daughter wants to invite some boy to our home to stay, that she only knows online, im saying no. Parents need to learn you do not have to go along with whatever your kids want. Look how misguided these kids were? No.
When faced with that decision, I bet some girls would try and secretly run off to meet them instead. Watch your kids man, when I have my own, I hope they’ll trust me enough to talk about stuff like this.
i agree. I think that Chad made a good point in saying that they might secretly run off. The hopeful point is that they would talk to you... but I think in this scenario, maybe they should have said at least let's all meet him first... and then try... he might have just killed them too. The police didn't seem helpful either. :(
In fairness, I did the same with a close friend who was from an abusive household. He's sitting next to me as I type this. He just got a job where I work and we hang out all the time. He was my first real friend who doesn't just use me, and he's said the same for me. It's not always bad. It's good to be careful, extremely important to be careful, in fact, but he's lived with me and my family for four months and we're both happy.
It syxks cause it probably wouldn't matter. Either they do it anyway behind the parents back or meet other crazy people not online. I want to over protect my sons but I know it makes them rebel like my dumb ass who could have gotten killed easy a few times. Pray for the youth
It's so sad that Emma's parents truly tried so hard to keep her safe. They also let her be who she was going to be regardless of how they might have felt about it. Those are some amazing parents. My heart hurts for Melanie's mom. She tried so hard to find out what was going on 😢
Pretty irresponsible really. Its not moreso about "letting her be who she was", but really being a good parent to a naive teen. Why would you ever let some kid your daughter has never actually met stay in your house? Or even go with her anywhere
Oooh how amazing is their parenting that it results in the tragic loss of their daughter... You downturn minded people blaming parents for teaching their children what's wrong and not allowing them to do it, you should get some classes in biology and logic.
@@Ze_Moose @Ze_Moose What do you mean by disciplined? *If you mean corporal punishment*, then part of your gratefulness is probably from ignorance of the world around you. After searching "are you more likely to commit crimes if you were disciplined as a kid" I found several sources (the very first one being a .gov site) claiming that not only does it increase the likelihood of committing crimes, it also increases likelihood of the child developing antisocial behaviors. After searching "likelihood of committing crimes in relation to corporal punishment" I found several more articles that make similar points (including the WHO, IJP, and NIH). However I did find one website (parlia) that paints it in a better light saying it is a strong deterrent. I guess your sample group of one might not have enough weight. I was punished as a child and had developed a stealing habit and as well as a defiance problem later on in life. I have since acknowledged and resolved these issues. I know first hand that it aint so good.
Not to put the blame on the parents, but no way would I let a 20 year old sleep over with my 16 year old daughter. Even though it's only a 4 year difference, there's quite a big difference in maturity from being a sophomore in highschool to a sophomore in college.
Investigation Discovery had this case in one of their series. They interviewed Emma’s friend, Razakel. She said that Emma told her she thought Richard was very weird, and he was nothing how she imagined him to be, he made her feel very uncomfortable. Shortly after, Emma started ignoring him and barely talked to him; which slowly started to enrage him
Razakel and her husband convinced Sam to kill the victims because Emma did him wrong and "dissed the label" (skr records the "label" razakel and her husband owned ) There is so much more to this that's known to people in the horror core scene.
I found the footage of Richard himself pretty enlightening. At first I thought it’s just a case of a put upon, shy, awkward boy who cracked it after one rejection too many but he looks completely insincere and devoid of remorse or even sorrow in his pre suicide video saying goodbye to his family and friends, he is basically smirking. Huge asshole
Thats one way to see it. My take on him was more like: His Voice was shacking. He was so full of adrenaline and most likely couldn't even comprehend what he really did. He broke in this moment. Like everything before is gone, he can never go back. After that, he went numb emotionaly. He knew, nothing he says is changing what he did and he knew he will get caught sooner or later, so he did what he wanted till this moment. And it's possible, that you get so shocked, you go emotionaly numb. His reason was most likely: he was so full of hate and abuse (he was abused by somebody in school or family) and wanted to escape. His escape was with this girl. But she didn't want him and he was "stuck" (in his mind at least) at their place. They most likely abused (verbaly) him. He couldn't flee from there and at some point he was so fed up with everything, that he couldn't handle it anymore (like one drop of water spills the glass). He NEEDED this to stop. They didn't stop till it was to late and he killed them. (than the video happened) Either the parents heard this and tryed to stop him or he waited for them to not get "discovered" sooner. Either way, they need to go. I dont try to defend him or anything. There is no reason to kill another human unless he killed first (i'm for the death sentence). You can say, he was an asshole for his last few free days, but before, he was a sad and helpless kid who only wanted someone else.
Who cares if people rejected him? Then ask out the chubby girls? I used to talk to nerds and introduce them to other nerds and many thought they were too good to hang out with someone unattractive. Never understood that mentality. I hung out with ugly interesting people. Now I’m an ugly interesting person myself!
@@nerdkartoffl9019 agree.she took the piss out of him like others did and he snapped.not defending him.but..theres only so much you can take when you've been bullied all your life .it's a very sad disturbing case .
I hate bullies. They are cowards. People who bully have parents that suck. Parents are supposed to teach their children not to be a bully because parents are aware of the serious mental and emotional trauma that is inflicted by being bullied. Then the bullies grow up and are still assholes, but question why things like this happen in society. DO BETTER PEOPLE;!!
Unbelievable. How the police missed all this on their welfare checks, or ignored the kid's stench at the roadside-- and how do you give a summons for no license w/o checking the registration and contacting the car's owner? And how'd they miss the gore on his clothes? This is beyond horrific.
they pull people over in other peoples cars all the time. if it's not reported stolen they cant prove you dont have permission to be driving it. you're acting like cops aren't just regular people and have some sort of sixth sense or something. they did what was required of them to do. it's not like it would have stopped him from killing them or anything.
@@youtubebannedme4207 right? How many people drive a friends car, a work vehicle etc… they don’t go calling everyone to make sure the person has permission. Like you said, if it’s not reported stolen, it’s a nothing burger . That’s the one thing I dislike about these types of channels, all the armchair quarterbacks . If all these people became cops, maybe, just maybe, we wouldn’t have so many criminals walking around lol .
So many questions with this case. Most notably his multiple run ins with the police while he was "caked in gore" and "smelled like the devil". How were officers able to navigate through the house without seeing any of the bloodshed and why on earth would he even makeup the dog/noise in the basement story? The officer at the scene of the car crash didn't notice anything amiss? It's 4:00 am and most likely very dark out so id imagine the officer would have had his flashlight on the kid at some point. I understand there's such a thing as negligence but there is something extremely off/sinister with this one
The people were dead already but yea, how they didn't smell it is bizarre. I do not think they smelled it, we cannot prove it. Why would they ignore it.
Also his appearance does match those of serial killers and mass murderers. Parents have to start understanding that tough love is still LOVE. You might feel like you’re being mean or your child won’t love you for being strict at the time but it will cost you if you don’t put your foot down. They thought it was just a phase, how the fuck. They’re writing their evil fucking master plans on the walls in their room like what more do you freaking need !!
@@Smeowtime Right, if I went to get my daughter, I wouldn’t have waited all day then driven 4 hrs back home. I’m sure they just couldn’t have fathomed this nightmare had occurred. Maybe they were more worried she’d ran away considering but yeah I’m like you, probably would’ve camped out at the PD.
How they were already dead nothing the cops could have done expect for arrest Him a day or 2 sooner..the officer I charge of the investigation of the Computer was my teacher in college
I'm 2 seconds into this and he keeps saying "my mind just snaps... I'm so sorry" but he's acting like he's auditioning to be a model actor who just watched crime documentaries and heard about the sanity plea 🙄
It's crazy I met this dude. He did a rap track with my buddy who had a group called delirious. He was deffinitly a weird person. Next thing we know we see him on TV and found out what he did. Sat in a room with this p.o.s. makes you think about who is around you all the time.
I have sat in the same room as the person that murdered my father. Pretty intense situation considering I have his name tattooed on a bullet across my throat and an entire back piece that says “vengeance is mine” as a top and bottom rocker.
Best narrator EVER! 🏆No matter how creepy or gruesome, that's the most calm, soothing voice on the planet! 💕 Also, the last time I watched a video on this case, I was struck at the windows on that house and it reminded me of "Amityville Horror!" I could never hang out in a house with those windows!
Yeah, lots of good info. I think it's very interesting his dad threw his mom out of the family home. That suggests his dad was abusive and possibly misogynistic. If he witnessed his father physically and verbally abusing his mother from childhood, it could shed some light on his violence to the three females in the house. Males who abuse female partners frequently had a father who was a domestic abuser, and grew up being influenced by him and disrespecting women as a result. Big Incel vibes from the killer. He was obviously enraged that Emma didn't find him attractive (huge arrogance he ever assumed she would - he was punching well above his weight and should have known it), and angry and humiliated that her friend and mother knew she'd given him the brush off. Males who abuse/kill females can't handle rejection. The chance of a woman being killed by her abusive partner rockets, as soon as she leaves him or even mentions she might leave him. This guy was surely a ticking time bomb. The fact he was 20 and pursuing an online relationship with a 16 year old girl he'd never met, speaks volumes about him. It's doubtful he'd ever had a serious relationship, so was pinning all his hopes on this 'virtual' girlfriend. Chances are he would always kill a woman when she rejected him.
When a kid gets bullied and receives no love, this is what results. No, not all kids end up like him, but for those that it does happen to....they need help sooner than later.
My blood boils at how "idgaf" attitude the police had. The mother kept calling, being on top of everything, trying and trying relentlessly. Oh, the failure and the absolute lack of empathy of the police officer
I'm confused more than anything by the car crash story. He was driving without a license, crashed a car that wasn't his, it's 4:00 in the a.m., he reeks of death, and they issue him a summons and send him on his way?
I was visiting my uncle in Virginia when this was actively happening. i just remember being so intrigued by the story as it was breaking, glad there's a true crime documentary now with evidence I didn't see while following the story
Why would anyone ever meet up with someone they met online?!? That is just very strange to me. Online dating, all that stuff. It’s just asking for something terrible to happen!
You just need a set of brains. The girl was really young and her brain wasn’t fully matured yet from frowning so she didn’t know and really got taken for granted. I feel so bad for the victims
There is no way the cops could miss the odor of decay. They either didn't feel like dealing with it and hoped it would take care of itself or maybe they had no sense of smell...baffling. Glad this lunatic is off the streets.
And what about the killers' wear full of gore and guts...? Damn how can the police miss that if he never took 'em off until he's arrested at the airport?
Do you mean that the cops where giving the guy time to clean so the scene wouldn’t be as bad or that they were giving him time to cover up the crime? The police department knew the victims mom was already concerned and was not giving up, so it’s hard to imagine the cops putting their careers on the line to help a random stranger get away. They would still have to handle the missing person cases even if the bodies were cleaned up or removed.
“Paying for my consequences”? Dude should have paid more attention in school Once again, an entitled spoiled kid who can’t stand up for himself. I’m so tired of bad people becoming worse parents & producing murderous kids
Some real psychos out there its terrible. I was a corrections officer for over 6 years and dealt with these people and you'd never know they were crazy if you didnt read the files.
this was exactly what i thought - her dad drove there and waited for 8 hours, no one came, and he didn't go to the police? i would have barged into that house, damn the consequences. it's my kid.
I've watched Melanie's mum, sibling, Razakel & her boyfriend being interviewed, he didn't wait 8 hrs thats bs. I'll look it up, let you know what doc it was, think it might have been an episode on 'Evil Lives Here'. @@BooksandCookiesBooktalk
I thought the same thing, but remember that Emma’s father came to the house & was murdered. The other father would have been too, I’m sure Richard camped out with the weapon waiting for him to come in. So perhaps “something” told him not to barge in.
I can't wrap my mind around the fact that her parents allowed their 16 year old daughter to carry on with a 20 year old stranger from across the country and facilitated the transition from the two being vague online acquaintances to him potentially becoming a more concrete/real influence in their daughters life IRL. Especially considering that her parents were only indulging Emma's interest in horror core and such in an attempt to ensure that at least she was safe throughout her rebellious forays. But in what universe does inviting a 20 year old strange man with obviously dark and bizarre interests to fly across the country and practically take up roost in your 16 year old daughters bedroom sound even remotely like an exercise in safety or harm reduction/damage control?
Look what bullying can do! I'm not saying it's an excuse for anything but getting bullied in school can have serious impacts on your brain especially if you don't have anyone to support you
This is one of the many reasons why you should never suppress your anger or frustration... It can ball up and get to a point where it is so out of control it actually overtakes you and you end up doing something that you completely and totally regret; we must find outlets: i.e. screaming in the woods, punching a pillow, screaming into a pillow, working out at the gym etc... And the number one outlet is confession and prayer!
Millions of people suppress their emotions and don't go and kill people. It's not something you need to worry about if you're suppressing. That's not a reason he did this. He was a shit person who happened to also suppress emotions
If my mom was Melanies mom she would have freaked out. I know how worried moms can be, if I fall asleep at school she loses it. I could only imagine how Melanies mom felt
His video of "he lost it & tell his parents he's sorry". Look at his body language he can barely contain his smile or grinning. He"s in his glory & proud of his act.
@The Mandalorian I'd have to watch again to remember if there is blood or bot. My response was to the person claiming there was a whole nother human there.
It could have been repaired if he was taught at a young age to confront is problems and not bury them inside as I always tell my kid to always stand up for himself and never fear no1 but only god himself, also sports or martial arts is an amazing way to build self worth and confidence. ( I blame the parents if my kid started listening to that trash music i would be extremely worried that hes in a dark place mentally and something traumatic is happening in his life, how much more blatant does it have to be)
This concert was held at dix road at the old Penelope thrift store. Middle of downriver dirrty Michigan where I grew up no way I'd let my daughter go there.
They were very negligent. I've experienced a wellness check from a new friend - who wasn't quite accustomed to my depression-related mood swings - who overreacted. There were three or four cops who came through my door and searched around my home. One of them made me call my mother and then snatched the phone once she got on the line, and walked out to speak with her. So of course I don't understand the severe lack of police response in this story, because they were pretty thorough with me!
I hear you, my dad is well known for his erratic mental health and is known to go off radar a lot....but when he didn't check in on an important family event ( which he always does regardless) I called the police ASAP, and they went straight out to check on him....he was OK, just had a heavy depressive episode
@@direktive4 I am sure that it is intense. Even a person that drinks caffeinated beverages struggle with some withdrawals. Shaking, diarrhea, Confusion, irritability, fatigue, ect. And it appears that he enjoyed energy drinks quite often and being a heavy drinker of them. I can practically guarantee you that he experienced some intense withdrawals. Is it factual that he did not have any energy drinks while he was there?..
Gee, I wonder what gave him the impression they were exclusively together?… 🙄 *"The next time you check your myspace, YOULL BE AT MY HOUSE! I love you sooo SO much baby; forever and always. You are my one and only everything, I can't wait to see you baby it's like 6:17 AM, and I've been up since 4ish filled with uber amounts of excitement I can't wait.”*
exactly, idk wtf is wrong with girls that say goofy shi like that either bc they’re bored or it’s like entertainment OR maybe he was a catfish in her eyes & she lost attraction towards him when she saw him & then was leaving him hanging at the concert but that doesn’t excuse what he did but that does explain why he thought she was his and that she was going to be loyal bc she said it herself 😂
" I had to do it, my mind just snapped" I dont believe a word of it. So unconvincing. Hes smiling when he says it. Funny I was bullied for my weight (o so much for my red hair) and glasses. I never murdered anyone, nor could I. And they way you describe what it feels like to be bullied, wow. You described exactly how I used to feel. I had over two decades of therapy for being bullied, molested and beaten. I still have anger but have learned control. I get loud and animated quickly when challenged, more as a defense (Im a big guy now) but I no longer back down from a confrontation, maybe even to my determent. But kill someone, even iin self defense... I dont have that in me.. Hurt or main even to protect myself maybe, never kill. Im glad he didnt hang himself to "face his consequences"
@Herbert West yeah I agree. Specially after she said she" loves him forever and always" and how her " insides feels squishy" and then treats him like that after he drove so far for love.
@@kittysplode so a lil bitch who lets his emotions turn him into a killer, is a real ass man? Haha funny shit. Or where you implying 'real ass nigers' means lil weak bois who are emotional?
The phone calls from the moms to the police shattered me... :( My daughter is 25 and if I couldn't get ahold of her for 2+ days I'd be frantic, and to know what we know, and they didn't yet, it just affected me way more than I expected.
I don’t understand how the police were in the home while the victims were when they checked in on the basement….did they not smell the fucking decomposing bodies? Wtf
The video to Emma is terrifyingly disturbed. This lad is so awkward, no wonder he could not find meaningful connections. This type of clear insanity is not hard to recognise. His parents should have seen it coming if they were paying any attention to their child
It’s weird to me that the parents didn’t have any friends or colleagues or anyone questioning where they were. That they could be missing for days yet no one called the police? Like even Melanie’s mom was concerned they “dropped off the face of the earth” to later know they were dead inside that house and no one except Melanie’s mom was so very concerned is sad as well.
I'm at the part where she says her fault has been missing for 2.5 days. She's a minor. I'd be in that front yard with the police demanding entry to locate my child on the first day. Unemancipated minors can't not come home and the police just not do anything, they have to help.
That's one of my favorite things about the Chandler Halderson stuff. His parents were so loved by their friends and coworkers they IMMEDIATELY went over to the house because they thought something was off.
I used to think it was ridiculous and then I hypnotized myself to endure natural child birth. What you listen to over and over and over can make an imprint on your mind. Especially if it encompasses other facets of life. It may for certain people of course not everyone.
This child is so ridiculously clueless, he lashed out violently killing four people, says “fuck the world and everyone in it, I hate this place,” and then says “PEACE!”
Context is key. He’s not using “peace” in the sense of non-violence. He’s saying “peace” as in bye. Ironic yes, but in context it’s very typical to say bye this way within this age group especially.
He said "Peace" as in goodbye. People are brainwashed, it's no different than when someone says "god damnit" or "Jesus Christ" out of frustration even though they aren't necessarily religious, it's just that they grew up in western society dominated by Abrahamic religions such as Christianity so the phrases are etched into their subconscious minds. It's about as ironic as crying to God when you're in pain, even though you don't actually believe in him.
@@TheCnicus no YA’LL are missing the point. ‘peace out’ has been evolved to emptily and merely mean “see u later” when in reality it should be taken at face value. PEACE OUT means leave with love. So yes. it’s EXTREMELY ironic when you’re really thinking about the weight of the words we overlook everyday, because he will do everything but PEACE OUT when he rots off of this world.
I was a huge fan of horrorcore when I was young, I remember when this case came to light a lot of the horrorcore artist had memorials for the victims. It was such a sad day, can't believe the way the police handled this case.
the horrocore artists took advantage of the situation and only cared about being on tv because thats the most attention they ever had. i know because i was a part of it. fuck them. rip to those girls.
@@cemoihonay not being racist but white people are weird. What is interesting in horrorcore? I really think white people are crazy😂 Most of serial killers are white, Most twisted cases involve them, etc. They claim it's hard life and too much stress but we are stressed on daily basis yet we don't do that kind of shit.
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that poor mom did a whole investigation on her own. Husband stake out, checked cell phone records, kept calling boyfriend, friends. jeez
Also got the man killed because she called him too.
@@crazypsychoamy1021 she got him killed? Or did Dick do? Or maybe rather the police after the first screwed up welfare check?
How tf can you blame the mother and not Dick, who did the actual killing(s) or the police, who seemed to have sent the exact same and only two cops in the precinct, born without the sense of smell, to a house smelling like death milestones in every direction, Dick himself included?
@@belladonnahigh9206 it's always easy to blame the mother in these situations. I seem to see a pattern in true crime that so many people are itching to blame the mom for everything even when it doesn't make sense.
It's tiresome lmao
@@crazypsychoamy1021 She said she called him when he was driving, already on his way to the house. So he didn't go to the house because of her call. He was already going there.
If that were my mom and I was missing for 2 days at a friends house and no one was answering the phones. Besides a friend who was giving different stories. Then she’d know something was up, track down the house and either get the police to go in or go in herself. I’d do the same thing for my kid. I wouldn’t be waiting for 2 days
For somebody who is supposedly obsessed with death, Richard sure did a lot to avoid it (not commit suicide, accept a plea bargain to avoid the death penalty, etc...).
emos and their confusion
@GHOZTLY THE GOD OF SUFFERINGI have no reason to kill a girl in her sleep. That is awful.
@GHOZTLY THE GOD OF SUFFERING you should buy a motorcycle!
@GHOZTLY THE GOD OF SUFFERING not something to brag about 😂😂😂
Right? They are all a bunch of wannabes. These little shits always Cracked in combat. They were the one dropping stuff on their foot to break it or slam a hand in a door. They are literally always little punks.
"I had to do it" is a silly excuse to do something you didn't have to do
Learning to accept rejection is very important.
I think it's more that literally everyone has rejected him because of his appearance. At one point people snap because of bullying.
@@user-tt6tu7dv6qmore like he kept pushing himself into this persona because he stayed submissive instead of standing up for himself and I don’t mean just bullying. Blaming this entire thing on “bullying” is very arrogant when it’s apparent there was a lot more problems.
You know, that's really hard for so many females, because they live life on Easy Mode and barely or never got rejected by any guy.
@@user-tt6tu7dv6q not you justifying murder 😬
the police really dropped the ball on this one, i feel so bad for the mother calling everyday, you can hear the worry in her voice. RIP
Police in southern va respond real quick if you ask them to try and overthrow the legitimately elected government, though. Priorities!
The cops get calls every day to do home checks. We can’t legally enter the house. They didn’t have reasonable suspicion. The issue isn’t with the cops but the rules we must follow.
The video is wrong at least in mass. We cannot enter a home on a welfare check unless allowed. And as far as qualified immunity that is only in civil cases. Doesn’t stop a cop getting fired or arrested
They dropped the ball alright. Then picked it up and dropped it again. And again. And again...
@@untroubledwaters2137 they had permission to break in from you after days then yes. After 12 hours with no homeowner permission I promise u that u are wrong. And even after days with an ex wife telling you to break in rather than a child of the occupant is a very touchy area
@@ransakreject5221 it literally stated in the video that the police had to means to go in with multiple calls for a minor and welfare check when they haven't heard from them in days. Plus the police even said they smelled horrible smells. The police just fucking sucked and dropped the ball
My heart goes out to Mrs. Kathleen Wells. To feel so helpless when you’re worried sick about your daughter is just awful.
Should have NOT been so supportive!! Writing evil stuff on ur walls is NOT OK!!!!!
@@charliechurch5004 take a GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF. I sense some evil within. I don’t PRETEND to be a God fearing Christian, but I’ll leave you @Charlie “Church” with a scripture from your good book.
NIV Matthew 7
1. Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
4. How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
5. You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
@@charliechurch5004 You're thinking of the other girl.
@@Bulls-eye4795 oh, thank u for clarifying, in a polite way. I still feel frustrated with the parents of these young ppl. I feel sad and upset that this happened. I'm a parent and I get emotional over this kinda thing, senseless violence.🥺
Why did she let her listen to music about killing? Dumb
The sickest most disturbing part of this entire story is the fact that he spent DAYS in that house after the murders. His brain must have been in a severely deep state of shock for the majority of that time, otherwise I just cant fathom the the ability to consciously endure that reality of your actions with bodies under the same roof. Has to be one of the most spine chilling crime videos I've ever watched.
This comment is accurate. How did he live there with dead bodies for 3/4 days , freaky
Don't forget, he called 911, because he heard noises in the basement. Spoky. Ghost was haunting him in the basement.
@@Go4Broke247 so scary to think about
Because some people can't feel negative emotions, I can't I'm a psychopath with shitzoid personality disorder
If you can find it watch the Web of Lies tv show episode about the Farmville Murders. its dramatized a bit but its more information about the case nonetheless
"I'm gonna pay for my consequences."
Bright lad.
There is a very distinct odor that comes from a rotting corpse. It’s unmistakable if you’ve ever smelled it. Absolutely wretched smell. How the police, even if they don’t know that smell, didn’t think they should investigate it further while investigating multiple missing/unaccounted for minors, baffles me beyond belief. A pure cavalier attitude causing further trauma to that poor family.
Have you smelt it before!?😧
You're so right tho! Like wtf they didn't even try to get in contact with the homeowners at all! They just talked to some creepy kid and took his word when looking for multiple missing people! The police totally fucked up big time! I mean not that there was anything they could do but still!
How could they not have smelled it when the neighbors smelled it. Really weird.
I also don't understand how the father that came to the house looking for his "missing daughter" was able to just leave and go on back home. Mind blowing!! I would've kicked that damn door off the hinges for my daughter.
@@hinu1987 unfortunately, more times than I care to count.
What about the dad that went for his daughter. He didn't smell the odor either.
Every time I hear this story I’m infuriated. How does a welfare check consist of merely speaking to a teenage boy who doesn’t live at the residence? They didn’t take into account anything the mother said, treating her as an over anxious, protective mother who probably didn’t have anything to worry about. I hope they lose sleep. We all know our loved ones, if she normally would not go without checking in AND nobody at the residence could be reached… huge red flag. How did they miss the crime scene, how?
Yea nah they missed so many keypoints to check on while there
Agreed.... taking a minor, non residents word instead of insisting on speaking to the owners?! Ridiculous. Smh not that it would have made much difference but that poor mother constantly calling and getting nowhere... my heart hurts for their families.
Well said and spot on Oceans 11....
So I use to talk to razakel and sicktantic. They knew Sam and Emma and razakel and sicktanic. All talk to each. By the sicktanick and razakel are nice people just different. They played match maker. They regret ever doing this. Razakel said look this is just music and I'm going to do this for Emma and Mel. I use to listen to horrorcore and write lyrics it helps release anger. But I got bored of the music also needed to step away because if murder is all you listen too it does something to the brain. I step away I'll listen to it sometimes. Lot of it is to demonic and the fan base is different good and bad way mostly bad because it draws the weirdos
@@Hardhatreptiles95 it's a lot like Death Metal in those regards. It's a catharsis for 85% of it's fans, a fantasy to 10% and a lifestyle to the 5% that chase everyone *else* away from it.
I AM glad to see various stylings & techniques from both break into other genres though
As a parent- desperate times demand desperate actions. Police ignore, then I would tell them I'm going there and going in. Police would show up immediately.
Everything about the guy was so unhygienic and cringe 🤢. I’m sorry for the loss of the victims.
Yeah it was the lack of hygiene that impacted me the most
Thank you for not blaming the music. Though it isn't my preference, I still appreciate that you held the individual accountable and not what he listened to.
From what I've seen, it's bad parenting that causes kids to rebel. Sometimes they rebel by listening to music their parents don't like and dressing in ways their parents don't like. That's why that type of music/scene attracts them. But it's the fault of bad parenting, not the music. Same with anti police and anti government groups. They're the result of bad policing and bad governing, causing ppl affected by it to start and join those groups.
Strict parenting, over parenting, helicopter parenting. Music was the only escape from my reality a lot of the time. I found comfort in artist like Tyler the creator. It’s not that I agreed with what he was saying but expressing himself in ways that I wasn’t really allowed. Wasn’t allowed to do alot so it was nice for someone to portray to be totally opposite of the life i was forced to live 🤮
@@Floortile83 Parents aren’t always to blame, though it is very common for that to be the issue.
Music? Wtf music? It’s always the Parents fault. It starts with genetics. Like before people fuck do you guys make a comprehensive list of everything that’s ran through your families? No one does but you can use your brain right?
@@shakeybonessrh maybe you haven't heard of other cases where law enforcement and lawyers blamed what defendants listened to, rather than the individuals. There are also instances where people have become suspects because they were deemed satanic due to their musical preferences, such as "The West Memphis Three". Placing the blame on musical interests is not novel, hence my post.
It’s so sad that Emma’s parents were supportive, and did everything right to protect her. So sad. The Farmville police seemed to have their head up their butts a bit. Kind of crazy.
It is not sad, it is wrong!
Police really don't care about people, you need to care about yourself and your love ones.
It was way to damn late anyway. The problem is not the police! It's the rotten parents no showing their kids genuine love and affection and the gospel of Christ. The damage was already done.
Tina Tina Tina, what the heck are you talking about?? They did the exact opposite of what they should have done! Some things should not be supported. Ever. Learn this before you ever have any children or even babysit.
Yeah, they "supported" her a little too much.. gotta draw the line somewhere.
The way he talks in the videos is the maturity level of my ten year old daughter who has a developmental disorder. How anyone thought he was normal blows my mind.
I don't think anyone did think he was normal, I mean everyone avoided him.
I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around why anyone would let a 20 year old man not only visit, but stay the night in the house when he was there bc he was romantically interested in their 16 year daughter.
Some parents are way too accepting. They think "oh its just 4 years." Yes, but they don't realize that they're also in two completely separate stages of life.
@@I_am_a_cat_4 years means a lot when one of them is 16, either way
So they can search your car if they smell weed, but they won't look for your missing minors, if he smells dead bodies while in the house. 🙄 unbelievable!
Shocking to say the least
When you say “they” you make it seem like all cops share the same mind and all think alike.
@@tsteezy209 where did i say all? Chill tf out.
Have you ever smelled a dead body before
@@ionkno1893 when you say “they” and grouped all cops together as equals. They implies all because you could have say “these cops” meaning the cops in the story. And I know you didn’t mean these cops in this story because these cops didn’t smell any weed in any car.
@@tsteezy209 They do, it's all about money for the government now. They no longer protect and serve us, they serve a corrupt leadership. If you're a cop at this point you're guilty by association.
My heart breaks for Melanies mom!! She tried so hard to reach out for help and KNEW something wasn't right only to be simply pacified by the police. Infuriating. I can't imagine what it was like for her to hear the gut wrenching truth and details.
Yes, valuing societal judgement, road trips and possibly breaking and entering charges can be a real obstacle when you are worried about the safety of your child.
Wouldn't have happened with God in their lives. Too late
if i were her and he kept giving me the runaround about where my kid was, i would break into the fucking house even if it meant i went to jail to find my kid I really wouldn’t care!
Yea and she was so polite every time she called!! I would have drive down there immediately and probably would have ended up his next victim. I feel soooo sad for her! Thank god she didn’t lose her husband as well!
@@blockbaby3451 How do you explain serial killers like Gary Ridgeway who were very religious? I suppose he’s not a “real” Christian?
So the dad drove 4 hours to the house sat outside for 8 hours and never broke in to see what happened. Cmon...
I mean yeah, in hindsight you can say that. To him, maybe he thought his daughter just wanted to stay longer and that they were out doing something.
A parent wants to think that anything other than the worst happened.
I would have walked around the house looking through the windows and calling the police if I got no answer.
@I_am_a_cat_ no way because people break into houses for less than that (that being a missing loved one), for money, valuables, copper wire, ain't no way in hell a trespassing or B&E charge would stop me from looking for my child. Especially considering the build up of events. And even if nothing is found, why drive all the way back home, why not get a hotel nearby? I cannot imagine not being near the last known location of my missing child. I lost my cat once in the woods in another state, luckily we got her back, but I was ready to stay behind on the trip over a cat lol
For the kid, I wouldn't expect him to be bullied for his weight or hair, he looks relatively normal. But his voice.... It's horrible to listen to.
I was severely picked on and quit school. I ended up going back. My mother was a severe alcoholic that neglected me.
I feel this doesn't make u kill people. He's just evil, nothing to figure out here.
I was thinking the same thing. And sorry that happened to you. Massive respect
Trauma affects different people in different ways. We know far too little about its effects and treatment.
I don't think Richard was born 'evil'. I think like so many western serial killers, he was created by his environment.
My heart goes out the families of the victims.
So sorry you had to go through that. Big hug.
How YOU handled a shitty life doesn’t mean other people will handle it the same way.
Your words are full of truth. In the end WE make our choices in life regardless of our past. Glad you made it!
The police were so negligent here. The fact that they did not ask to speak to the home owner and did not notice any odour despite neighbours noticing it from much further away is ridiculous. Also the fact there were two missing minors involved one who's mother contacted the police regularly and yet she was met with nonchalance by officers. If I lived here I would be most concerned by the failures of the local police force as they fell very short of what is expected.
"Oh yeah, two minors are missing and neither of the two adult owners are here but this unrelated teenage boy is looking after things so seems legit to me" like WHAT were they thinking
Was Melanie a minor?
@@emilytownsend4983no she was 18
That's what happens when you have white skin in America. It must be nice.
White boy, white neighborhood…
Kid sounds like an early 2000's alt rock predator
I am a horror writer and often visit the dark corners of my mind. Despite this I feel no urge to kill anyone for real. I used to play guitar in a black metal band and none of us ever became disturbed killers.
But I guess it's always nice to blame ones shortcomings on something, taking responsibility is simply too much for a sicky like this.
Morbid curiosity is what brings us all here. There's a thrill to listening, creating, and expressing dark and disturbing art. Especially in a way that we know we will not be victims nor perpetrators. But acting on a crime like this is beyond the illusion of art entirely.
evil people like this ruin the world’s perception of people in the scene. heart breaking
@@GodNotReal (In general) there are people who admit to crimes like murder they didn’t commit as an attempt to get attention, it can be caused by lack of attention from family members or friends in childhood, it could start as destructive behavior (breaking toys, bullying siblings or classmates etc) and form into more violent behaviors as they get older (harm to themselves, siblings, animals etc) and in some cases it goes further over the edge ie breaking and entering, armed robbing and sometimes murder, some that can’t bring themselves to actually commit murder could admit to unsolved crimes to get attention whether it’s positive or negative
I am from norway and know many who plays or sing in black metal bands.
Is often the most sensetive people who is in this kind of bands.
So, you influence people with low vibrational energies and then pass on all responsibility for your actions. It's about time you took some responisibility for your own actions. Your actions influence others.
It's ridiculous that this poor woman had to call so many times, before anyone did anything.
Heartbreaking. She was trying so hard to find answers and everyone failed her
Its almost like we abolished slavery or something. Cops can be just as lazy and incompetent and a fastfood worker. Yes law enforcement is corrupt! But what stopped her from driving her happy ass down to the house and breaking the door down?! Wasnt gas prices! Wasnt that she didnt know where! Oh, a breaking and entering charge!! Oh no, she might be on the news because her daughter might just be ignoring her!! Could you imagine the shame she wouldve felt if nothing was wrong?!
And they didn’t even do anything based off her calling. They went because he called about sounds, outside reports etc. just sick and sad. I pray for the families especially Ms Kathleen.
BUT WHY DIDN'T SHE GO DOWN THERE THE FIRST DAY SHE DIDN'T HEAR FROM HER. I WOULD HAVE.
Being murdered is bad enough, but being murdered by someone who’s that cringe? Big yikes.
lmao
right
and hes a ginger
He prayed on a minor , he is from California
Yikes for real..🤪🤪
My mom had a well check done on me when I was a teen. The police demanded to speak with me, took me aside, asked me if everything was alright. That's a proper welfare check. This was severe negligence.
Im a recovering opiate addict alcoholic and pretty much any other drugs you can think of and I can tell you that mixture didn't cause this horrific act
I'm a little confused, if he didn't bathe for days after the murders and continued wearing the same bloody clothes, how did the police not see the blood stains on his clothes or his body during the welfare checks or when they investigated the noise in the basement? Also why would they not search the whole house to make sure it was clear along with the basement? The smell, might not have been as bad as neighbors made it sound, Mel's dad sat there for 8hrs. Then went home, surely he would have reported a strange odor considering he was trying to find his daughter, but the stink on the murderer was definately noticeable according to the tow truck driver. Police had several interactions with that psycho kid and didnt notice anything odd?
Exactly... Idk what's wrong with small town cops they seem to be so uncaring about the members of their community. You would think they would be more motivated to investigate suspicious smells/behaviors etc...
Ikr!? Doesn't makes sense...
Funny how the cab driver didn't mention anything about his stench.. just said he seemed like a nice young man.
Crazy how cops will pull you over for smelling weed, but something smells like a corpse and they're like "hmm must've been the wind"
Apparently he had a jacket or something over his shirt most of the time. He crashed marks car at like 4am also, and the cops didn't even notice his shirt because of the one he had over it. They just gave him a ticket and said jog on.
Dude the quivering voice is such a red flag. I’ve known kids like him. I’m a death metal guy with some appreciation for horrorcore or death rap. It’s an escape, not a means to an end. This kid just took his teenage angst way too far. You get rejected, you write a song about it, not this crap.
His quivering voice is fake
I love Death and Chuck Schuldiner \m/
@@cw5894 proof? Something smells baseless in ur comment
@@richardnixon8720 show proof that it wasnt. It would only be baseless if i claimed what i said as fact bubba.
@@cw5894 you did claim it as a fact “his quivering voice is fake” you are stating that it’s a fact that his quivering voice is fake bubba, if you said “I think” or “probably” then you wouldn’t be presenting it as a fact, you don’t have to say somethings a fact in order for you to present it as one, BUBBA
Conflicted about your dirty room but not being a psycho killer. Good grief. Geez.
Those initial videos to Emma hit so off because that is exactly the type of awkward but friendly video I'd expect from a teenager "proving" to their online friend that they're not secretly a murderer or something. And yet, this was the result.
Don't ever feel like you're not allowed to check on your child. If you have a bad feeling, act on it. Your gut never lies.
I couldn’t agree more, especially about your gut. It ONLY has your best interests in mind, can you say that for anything else? You gut doesn’t have a voice so it communicates to you any way it can!
Exactly !
Its not your gut, it is the pineal gland.... which most people have lost all ability to use.
Except that my mom would tell me "something bad is going to happen - I feel it" every, single time I wanted to do something she didn't want me to (which was anything that required me to leave the house 🙄..) and nothing ever did lmao.. except when she insisted I was "fine"
@@kims7287 She obviously was not in tune with her pineal gland and this reality. She was feeling alternate realities and not being able to distinguish them. Assuming she legitimately felt that way, she could have just had programming issues or lied.
The fact that he had spoken with police several times and not shown any nerviousness or a sign something was wrong says all I need to know about this sic kid..
Who knows, with these police it seems he could have joked about killing them and the cops would have laughed.
welp, could this not being nervous stuff that u mention, come from the help of "demonic powers" or "dark forces" that he worshipped and sang about......or is it super natural power of white privilege working at his aid?! lol lol jk
Do you honestly believe the police's account on his behavior when they literally couldn't care less until they stumbled upon a gruesome crime scene that they knew they couldn't downplay?
It sounds more like a very convenient excuse to me
I feel like he could have been covered head to toe in blood and they wouldn't have noticed
Oh wait he literally was
@@canuckfan1745 as a white man who has been harassed countless times by police for just walking down the street as well as being beaten and arrested on madeup nonsense you're an idiot if you think being white gives you privilege with the police. Having and looking like you have money gives you privilege.
"gah my insides feel so squishy" please tell me how hard the narrator cringed for that one lmfao
It's sad that Emma never realized her parents love, dedication and support despite them having different beliefs.
Idk how any parents have the patience to deal with their teens "rebellious devil worshipping" faze. I understand that it's a cry for attention, but the fact that they allowed her to write shit like that on her walls is wild to me.
Never the music but always the blood
She wasn't too bright. Same reason she oversold how much she loved the kid, invited him to her house, then ditched him at the concert and flirted with other guys. That's not very bright.
You are what you consume.
That includes music.
@@justinfowler5761 That's irrelevant to my comment and I don't know if I agree with that-- if you go to a heavy metal concert you're going to meet the kindest and most selfless people (speaking from experience).
It's really a shame people like this have to destroy others instead of just themselves.
Ikr
I've heard a wise man say these words while listening to some mass shooting coverage "if your going to hurt or murder some one, just kill yourself, worthless piece of shit."
Imagine if all those school shooters justed capped themselves instead of murdering their peers. Sure it's sad. But better than having so many families suffer due to one asshole.
Yes! Exactly!
You are absolutely right!
Or maybe they could go to therapy
I live in Virginia, and this is still one of the most shocking and awful things to happen in the entire state, especially Farmville, which is a rather small college town. My mom still talks about it. She asked me if i knew what horrorcore was because she was worried I'd meet someone like this guy. The entire thing just breaks my heart.
I remember my mom asked me the same thing about horrorcore just because I would go to hardcore punk and metal shows at the Modern Exchange, the venue where these people went to see their concert. I was never into ICP or anything like that.
I can assure you as a big fan of horrorcore (albeit only a few specific artists, none of which perform at that festival) that not all of us are crazy people, lol. I may listen to songs about murder and violence, but I actually have a lot of empathy for all people, no matter their race, gender, sexuality, etc.
At the end of the day it's just music, and there are psycho fans for every genre - like that dude who was obsessed with Björk..
I'm OK thanks so so much beautiful stay and get to have a little and if
I've never, ever heard anything good coming from that kind of dark stuff certain people are into. NEVER. While they don't always turn into murderers, it's nonetheless rather obvious that it's not the best stuff to fill your mind with. Why would you do it? What possible rationale is there, for it? THERE...ISN'T...ANY, PERIOD. It's probably better to NOT do it (and that's a major 'no duh!'). There's nothing profound or scientific about it. It does no one ANY good to get into dark subjects/thoughts, etc.
@@noahhyde8769 I mean there is nothing good coming from mainstream singers and rappers either. To my knowledge these mainstream people have killed more people than people that listen to Horrorcore, punk, metal, rock, etc... Most of the mainstream crap is about drugs, gangs, shaking ass, etc... It also seems many of them are okay with drugging beverages at bars and raping women... Maybe don’t judge someone’s taste in music...You do you. If you don’t like it then don’t listen. You don’t need/have to understand because it has nothing to do with you. Anyway, Stay Blessed and have a wonderful day, sincerely.
why was the mom cool with him being 20 and her being 16 not cool
He says he's sorry and then he curse everyone . . . make up your mind LOL
That's so disgusting his clothes were soaked in rotting blood and he never changed them and just walked around smelling like that 🤮 I hated how he spoke too with that hissss like a ssssnake..so glad he was caught
He was a stinki boi prior to getting all that human gunk on him that's why he didnt get laid. He was a stinki boi after and getting non sexual body fluids all over his clothes from murdering.
@@nickyblue4866 femcel detected
@@feministpicnicfallsapartaf3644 who says I'm a girl?
@@nickyblue4866 your username, you aren't too bright i see
Idk why I found "I hated how he spoke with hisss like a snake" followed by"so glad he was caught" funny.
Absolutely bizarre that the police dept did nothing despite the fact that it WASN’T his house and there was no sign of the actual homeowners or their child. Some random dude squatting there every time they came by for a welfare check and they’re like “everything checks out to us!”
It's uncomprehensible, the police on the phone was just like, well this kid said everything was fine....??!!??!! Lol like what??
@@whollitrolli I’m so angry on behalf of that poor woman
It's honestly not a surprise they did nothing. The police in my town don't care at all.
Seems it’s quite common, the amount of times I’ve heard of welfare checks being done and the police leave without noticing the dead body in the back room, or the dying man on the floor. You heard the case of Ryan Waller where the cops claimed they couldn’t legally enter the house so just kinda did nothin, despite a young man being shot in the head and his gf being dead?
And the Cleveland strangler; officers regularly checking up on him as part of his probation, yet no one noticed a bunch of dead women in his home?! You couldn’t make it up, it’s so ridiculous... horrifyingly shockingly despairingly ridiculous. 😔
Most of these police don’t care enough to investigate things thoroughly sadly. They’re just there to do their job, be above the law, and collect a paycheck 🤦🏼♂️
The last video he recorded and him feeling like a celebrity is what made him not kill himself.
He would have never done it in the first place
I was bullied from grade school on up to high school & I’m not a violent person at all. Evil is evil there’s no justifying it.
It’s understandable to have violent thoughts due to being bullied but acting on it is just psychotic. There’s no justifying taking an innocent humans life
@@appleciderhead6527 Exactly
Same but I act violently sometimes when I snap out like throwing the chairs and notebooks to my classmates. I had also violent thoughts of killing my bullies and classmates but I stopped myself. Sometimes, my violent thoughts are there but I am doing my best not to snap out.
someone could go through the exact same thing you went through and come out like this guy. its not evil, it's the difference in the way you react to situations. you didnt react violently because thats not how your brain decided to process what you were going through. other people have different genetic make ups and environments.
@@vicksus4809 how about just now giving a fuck about those people, once they know they wont get a reaction they stop.
i was bullied because i moved a lot, and naturally after the 2nd time moving just started not giving a fuck about anything.
surprisingly the bullying stopped then and i actually made "friends".
The members in this horrorcore band helped so much in catching this sick puppy, don't judge people by their covers or their lyrics.
Oh I dont judge the artists. They're basically performance artists. I do judge the cringe ass neyney babies that they spawn.
Thank you for making it clear. Some people would definitely try to associate without trying to be intelligent. :)
So if I hear someone write lyrics:
The evil voices inside my head.
They just want me to murder
They want me to take lives on mass murder spree
They love the smell of a body that’s rotten and decayed.
Should just be looked over and not judged. Okay good to know…
Question if you had a daughter and the boy she brought over wrote stuff like this. Would you want her hanging around him?
@@Area-5l Definitely not, and I'd be cautious making friends with someone like that. Point is that not everyone in certain bands is a murderer, you have to judge ppl individually.
@@Area-5l would I like it? No but teenagers are full of emotions and you can't blame a song for someone commiting a quadruple homicide. If you watch the programme about this case the band helped in everyway they could to find out wtf was going on and are actually pretty decent human beings and if you're wanting to go down the blame road why did the girls parents, one who was a Pastor, allow a boy they'd never met travel across the country to meet and stay with their underage daughter? Thats what I would of said a big massive No too.
What the hell is wrong with the police? There is a "death smell" and nobody checks it out?
Especially when they went through the house and he called because he was scared! How is such ignorance possible. In addition to the odor, 4 people were viciously k*lled and they don't notice? Unbelievable
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Yeah I gotta say, if my daughter wants to invite some boy to our home to stay, that she only knows online, im saying no. Parents need to learn you do not have to go along with whatever your kids want. Look how misguided these kids were? No.
When faced with that decision, I bet some girls would try and secretly run off to meet them instead. Watch your kids man, when I have my own, I hope they’ll trust me enough to talk about stuff like this.
i agree. I think that Chad made a good point in saying that they might secretly run off. The hopeful point is that they would talk to you... but I think in this scenario, maybe they should have said at least let's all meet him first... and then try... he might have just killed them too. The police didn't seem helpful either. :(
In fairness, I did the same with a close friend who was from an abusive household. He's sitting next to me as I type this. He just got a job where I work and we hang out all the time. He was my first real friend who doesn't just use me, and he's said the same for me. It's not always bad. It's good to be careful, extremely important to be careful, in fact, but he's lived with me and my family for four months and we're both happy.
He's a 20 year old man, he can rent a damn hotel room
It syxks cause it probably wouldn't matter. Either they do it anyway behind the parents back or meet other crazy people not online. I want to over protect my sons but I know it makes them rebel like my dumb ass who could have gotten killed easy a few times. Pray for the youth
It's so sad that Emma's parents truly tried so hard to keep her safe. They also let her be who she was going to be regardless of how they might have felt about it. Those are some amazing parents. My heart hurts for Melanie's mom. She tried so hard to find out what was going on 😢
I got disciplined as a kid and now I don't have a criminal record. Hated it as a kid and grateful as an adult
Pretty irresponsible really. Its not moreso about "letting her be who she was", but really being a good parent to a naive teen. Why would you ever let some kid your daughter has never actually met stay in your house? Or even go with her anywhere
Oooh how amazing is their parenting that it results in the tragic loss of their daughter...
You downturn minded people blaming parents for teaching their children what's wrong and not allowing them to do it, you should get some classes in biology and logic.
@@Ze_Moose @Ze_Moose What do you mean by disciplined? *If you mean corporal punishment*, then part of your gratefulness is probably from ignorance of the world around you.
After searching "are you more likely to commit crimes if you were disciplined as a kid" I found several sources (the very first one being a .gov site) claiming that not only does it increase the likelihood of committing crimes, it also increases likelihood of the child developing antisocial behaviors.
After searching "likelihood of committing crimes in relation to corporal punishment" I found several more articles that make similar points (including the WHO, IJP, and NIH). However I did find one website (parlia) that paints it in a better light saying it is a strong deterrent.
I guess your sample group of one might not have enough weight. I was punished as a child and had developed a stealing habit and as well as a defiance problem later on in life. I have since acknowledged and resolved these issues. I know first hand that it aint so good.
Letting someone you don't know and have never met come and stay in your house is not responsible parenting!
Not to put the blame on the parents, but no way would I let a 20 year old sleep over with my 16 year old daughter. Even though it's only a 4 year difference, there's quite a big difference in maturity from being a sophomore in highschool to a sophomore in college.
The mom and dad did more investigating than the police. WOW 😳
Investigation Discovery had this case in one of their series. They interviewed Emma’s friend, Razakel. She said that Emma told her she thought Richard was very weird, and he was nothing how she imagined him to be, he made her feel very uncomfortable. Shortly after, Emma started ignoring him and barely talked to him; which slowly started to enrage him
Razakel made a tribute song to her
he literally sent her a video where he's weird as hell. how can she say he was nothing like she imagined
Razakel and her husband convinced Sam to kill them .
Razakel and her husband convinced Sam to kill the victims because Emma did him wrong and "dissed the label" (skr records the "label" razakel and her husband owned ) There is so much more to this that's known to people in the horror core scene.
@@francissobotka8725 yeah sure buddy
I found the footage of Richard himself pretty enlightening. At first I thought it’s just a case of a put upon, shy, awkward boy who cracked it after one rejection too many but he looks completely insincere and devoid of remorse or even sorrow in his pre suicide video saying goodbye to his family and friends, he is basically smirking. Huge asshole
Thats one way to see it.
My take on him was more like:
His Voice was shacking. He was so full of adrenaline and most likely couldn't even comprehend what he really did.
He broke in this moment. Like everything before is gone, he can never go back. After that, he went numb emotionaly. He knew, nothing he says is changing what he did and he knew he will get caught sooner or later, so he did what he wanted till this moment. And it's possible, that you get so shocked, you go emotionaly numb.
His reason was most likely:
he was so full of hate and abuse (he was abused by somebody in school or family) and wanted to escape. His escape was with this girl.
But she didn't want him and he was "stuck" (in his mind at least) at their place. They most likely abused (verbaly) him. He couldn't flee from there and at some point he was so fed up with everything, that he couldn't handle it anymore (like one drop of water spills the glass). He NEEDED this to stop. They didn't stop till it was to late and he killed them.
(than the video happened)
Either the parents heard this and tryed to stop him or he waited for them to not get "discovered" sooner. Either way, they need to go.
I dont try to defend him or anything. There is no reason to kill another human unless he killed first (i'm for the death sentence).
You can say, he was an asshole for his last few free days, but before, he was a sad and helpless kid who only wanted someone else.
@@nerdkartoffl9019 if so, still no excuse. Those murders were overkill he's a pos
The video he made for Emma before the trip to VA was creepy too. Everything about the guy gave off creep vibes.
Who cares if people rejected him? Then ask out the chubby girls? I used to talk to nerds and introduce them to other nerds and many thought they were too good to hang out with someone unattractive. Never understood that mentality. I hung out with ugly interesting people. Now I’m an ugly interesting person myself!
@@nerdkartoffl9019 agree.she took the piss out of him like others did and he snapped.not defending him.but..theres only so much you can take when you've been bullied all your life .it's a very sad disturbing case .
I know this is supposed to be serious but this deep serious voice reading the MySpace message was cracking me up
I hate bullies. They are cowards. People who bully have parents that suck. Parents are supposed to teach their children not to be a bully because parents are aware of the serious mental and emotional trauma that is inflicted by being bullied. Then the bullies grow up and are still assholes, but question why things like this happen in society. DO BETTER PEOPLE;!!
Unbelievable. How the police missed all this on their welfare checks, or ignored the kid's stench at the roadside-- and how do you give a summons for no license w/o checking the registration and contacting the car's owner? And how'd they miss the gore on his clothes? This is beyond horrific.
How did this kid just live in a murdered families house with the victims there for days lol like what
@@kdizzle901hes a crazy person. so what he does probably seems crazy to most people.
they pull people over in other peoples cars all the time. if it's not reported stolen they cant prove you dont have permission to be driving it. you're acting like cops aren't just regular people and have some sort of sixth sense or something. they did what was required of them to do. it's not like it would have stopped him from killing them or anything.
@@youtubebannedme4207 right? How many people drive a friends car, a work vehicle etc… they don’t go calling everyone to make sure the person has permission. Like you said, if it’s not reported stolen, it’s a nothing burger . That’s the one thing I dislike about these types of channels, all the armchair quarterbacks . If all these people became cops, maybe, just maybe, we wouldn’t have so many criminals walking around lol .
But he is driving, stinking like hell, with a clothes full of blood.
Melanie's moms phone calls were heartbreaking, then learning the dad sat outside the house all day, man
The fact that melanie s father could have also been killed, if he had attempted to force open the door is so chilling!!
So many questions with this case. Most notably his multiple run ins with the police while he was "caked in gore" and "smelled like the devil". How were officers able to navigate through the house without seeing any of the bloodshed and why on earth would he even makeup the dog/noise in the basement story? The officer at the scene of the car crash didn't notice anything amiss? It's 4:00 am and most likely very dark out so id imagine the officer would have had his flashlight on the kid at some point. I understand there's such a thing as negligence but there is something extremely off/sinister with this one
The police really failed these people.. my heart goes out to the victims families.
I would’ve shown up at their station and refused to leave that’s unacceptable
The people were dead already but yea, how they didn't smell it is bizarre. I do not think they smelled it, we cannot prove it. Why would they ignore it.
Also his appearance does match those of serial killers and mass murderers. Parents have to start understanding that tough love is still LOVE. You might feel like you’re being mean or your child won’t love you for being strict at the time but it will cost you if you don’t put your foot down. They thought it was just a phase, how the fuck. They’re writing their evil fucking master plans on the walls in their room like what more do you freaking need !!
@@Smeowtime
Right, if I went to get my daughter, I wouldn’t have waited all day then driven 4 hrs back home. I’m sure they just couldn’t have fathomed this nightmare had occurred. Maybe they were more worried she’d ran away considering but yeah I’m like you, probably would’ve camped out at the PD.
How they were already dead nothing the cops could have done expect for arrest Him a day or 2 sooner..the officer I charge of the investigation of the Computer was my teacher in college
I'm 2 seconds into this and he keeps saying "my mind just snaps... I'm so sorry" but he's acting like he's auditioning to be a model actor who just watched crime documentaries and heard about the sanity plea 🙄
It's crazy I met this dude. He did a rap track with my buddy who had a group called delirious. He was deffinitly a weird person. Next thing we know we see him on TV and found out what he did. Sat in a room with this p.o.s. makes you think about who is around you all the time.
Oh my god. Glad that you guys are safe.
I have sat in the same room as the person that murdered my father. Pretty intense situation considering I have his name tattooed on a bullet across my throat and an entire back piece that says “vengeance is mine” as a top and bottom rocker.
You couldn't see it when you got the uncanny valley creeps from looking into his eyes?
That's wild
Best narrator EVER! 🏆No matter how creepy or gruesome, that's the most calm, soothing voice on the planet! 💕 Also, the last time I watched a video on this case, I was struck at the windows on that house and it reminded me of "Amityville Horror!" I could never hang out in a house with those windows!
It’s AI.
Is it really a.i
"I love you so, so much baby" *30 seconds later* "Emma was immediately put off by Richard's shyness and physical appearance."🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, this wasn't some dude she only spoke with via text for a couple of weeks, they'd been talking for over a year and she'd SEEN him on video!!!
They said he smelled really bad. That would be a turn off. And something you wouldn't know until meeting irl
Ive heard this story elsewhere and this much information wasn't provided. Absolutely well done! Thank you!
Same. I saw some TikTok videos on it, but didn’t get as much detail from that compared to this.
That's why they are my favorite they have so much info on cases that I don't hear else here
Yeah, lots of good info. I think it's very interesting his dad threw his mom out of the family home. That suggests his dad was abusive and possibly misogynistic.
If he witnessed his father physically and verbally abusing his mother from childhood, it could shed some light on his violence to the three females in the house. Males who abuse female partners frequently had a father who was a domestic abuser, and grew up being influenced by him and disrespecting women as a result.
Big Incel vibes from the killer. He was obviously enraged that Emma didn't find him attractive (huge arrogance he ever assumed she would - he was punching well above his weight and should have known it), and angry and humiliated that her friend and mother knew she'd given him the brush off.
Males who abuse/kill females can't handle rejection. The chance of a woman being killed by her abusive partner rockets, as soon as she leaves him or even mentions she might leave him. This guy was surely a ticking time bomb. The fact he was 20 and pursuing an online relationship with a 16 year old girl he'd never met, speaks volumes about him. It's doubtful he'd ever had a serious relationship, so was pinning all his hopes on this 'virtual' girlfriend. Chances are he would always kill a woman when she rejected him.
When a kid gets bullied and receives no love, this is what results. No, not all kids end up like him, but for those that it does happen to....they need help sooner than later.
Every adult in this situation was irresponsibly negligent.
My blood boils at how "idgaf" attitude the police had. The mother kept calling, being on top of everything, trying and trying relentlessly. Oh, the failure and the absolute lack of empathy of the police officer
American police basically in a nutshell.
I'm confused more than anything by the car crash story. He was driving without a license, crashed a car that wasn't his, it's 4:00 in the a.m., he reeks of death, and they issue him a summons and send him on his way?
Police have a weird habit of cracking down hard on people who really don’t deserve it, and then ignoring obvious red flags
Dnt b confused it’s an easy answer… he’s a young white boy!
@@feddih7174yeah that's gotta be it.....
But he smelt of death.
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@@feddih7174you’re keeping racism alive and well. Good job.
I was visiting my uncle in Virginia when this was actively happening. i just remember being so intrigued by the story as it was breaking, glad there's a true crime documentary now with evidence I didn't see while following the story
Why would anyone ever meet up with someone they met online?!? That is just very strange to me. Online dating, all that stuff. It’s just asking for something terrible to happen!
I met my fiance on tinder lol. You gotta be careful and meet in public during the day and definitely don't sleep over on the first day.
My fiance I met on IG lmao it's not impossible you just have to be smart
@@shay230that’s sketchy
You just need a set of brains. The girl was really young and her brain wasn’t fully matured yet from frowning so she didn’t know and really got taken for granted. I feel so bad for the victims
There is no way the cops could miss the odor of decay. They either didn't feel like dealing with it and hoped it would take care of itself or maybe they had no sense of smell...baffling. Glad this lunatic is off the streets.
And what about the killers' wear full of gore and guts...? Damn how can the police miss that if he never took 'em off until he's arrested at the airport?
Do you mean that the cops where giving the guy time to clean so the scene wouldn’t be as bad or that they were giving him time to cover up the crime? The police department knew the victims mom was already concerned and was not giving up, so it’s hard to imagine the cops putting their careers on the line to help a random stranger get away. They would still have to handle the missing person cases even if the bodies were cleaned up or removed.
What about all that freaking blood all over the place
I only know one person that can't smell. Probably rare.
I like how the cops walk him out of the airport without cuffs on. These cops were a joke from start to finish.
“Paying for my consequences”?
Dude should have paid more attention in school
Once again, an entitled spoiled kid who can’t stand up for himself. I’m so tired of bad people becoming worse parents & producing murderous kids
The awful thing about some of these true crime murders is that the killers are really dumb, that would be so frustrating for the family.
Little by little they’re being caught before all that happens
Some real psychos out there its terrible.
I was a corrections officer for over 6 years and dealt with these people and you'd never know they were crazy if you didnt read the files.
With all due respect to the parents of Melanie. It is no way that I would have left that house to drive back without my kid. No way .
this was exactly what i thought - her dad drove there and waited for 8 hours, no one came, and he didn't go to the police? i would have barged into that house, damn the consequences. it's my kid.
With all due. Respect to the parents. Of Melanie. It no. Way that would have left that house to drive back. Without my kid no way
yep, that's what I was thinking. how the hell did he just go back home??? I would've called the cops or forced my way into that house myself!!
I've watched Melanie's mum, sibling, Razakel & her boyfriend being interviewed, he didn't wait 8 hrs thats bs. I'll look it up, let you know what doc it was, think it might have been an episode on 'Evil Lives Here'. @@BooksandCookiesBooktalk
I thought the same thing, but remember that Emma’s father came to the house & was murdered. The other father would have been too, I’m sure Richard camped out with the weapon waiting for him to come in. So perhaps “something” told him not to barge in.
I can't wrap my mind around the fact that her parents allowed their 16 year old daughter to carry on with a 20 year old stranger from across the country and facilitated the transition from the two being vague online acquaintances to him potentially becoming a more concrete/real influence in their daughters life IRL. Especially considering that her parents were only indulging Emma's interest in horror core and such in an attempt to ensure that at least she was safe throughout her rebellious forays. But in what universe does inviting a 20 year old strange man with obviously dark and bizarre interests to fly across the country and practically take up roost in your 16 year old daughters bedroom sound even remotely like an exercise in safety or harm reduction/damage control?
here in Australia there is nothing you can do 16 is the legal age here
@@elioraimmanuel Demon? Oh you mean the bf?
Get off your moral high horse
Victim blaming, nice. Very charming.
@@nathanmartin1973 who's victim blaming?
Look what bullying can do! I'm not saying it's an excuse for anything but getting bullied in school can have serious impacts on your brain especially if you don't have anyone to support you
This is one of the many reasons why you should never suppress your anger or frustration... It can ball up and get to a point where it is so out of control it actually overtakes you and you end up doing something that you completely and totally regret; we must find outlets: i.e. screaming in the woods, punching a pillow, screaming into a pillow, working out at the gym etc... And the number one outlet is confession and prayer!
Millions of people suppress their emotions and don't go and kill people.
It's not something you need to worry about if you're suppressing.
That's not a reason he did this.
He was a shit person who happened to also suppress emotions
more like cringecore bruh
I cackled 😂
Mf tryna force his voice so hard he sound sassy asf 😂
Was literally in the middle of the new mrballen video but had to click on this once i saw it. You guys are killing it lately, thank you!!
Omggggg ME TOOOOOO....what the heck😳🤯
Same but only cos I heard that twitchell shit like 5 times now
I was in the middle of true crime brewery and had to jump to this video
Love ballen
LMAO I JUST got done w/ MrBallen's new vid too. hahaha
the way he talks, "to everybody thatssss probably going to hate me for thisssssssssssss".
If my mom was Melanies mom she would have freaked out. I know how worried moms can be, if I fall asleep at school she loses it. I could only imagine how Melanies mom felt
His video of "he lost it & tell his parents he's sorry". Look at his body language he can barely contain his smile or grinning. He"s in his glory & proud of his act.
:O
And if you look closely behind him there's someone standing there..... DID HE HAVE AN ACCOMPLICE?!
@@nickyblue4866 I've watched it several times and never see even a hint of someone else
@The Mandalorian I'd have to watch again to remember if there is blood or bot. My response was to the person claiming there was a whole nother human there.
What makes me mad, is seeing people like him being put back in society years down the road. What that boy has can not be repaired.
He got 4 life sentences he won't be getting out 🤷🏼♀️
It could have been repaired if he was taught at a young age to confront is problems and not bury them inside as I always tell my kid to always stand up for himself and never fear no1 but only god himself, also sports or martial arts is an amazing way to build self worth and confidence. ( I blame the parents if my kid started listening to that trash music i would be extremely worried that hes in a dark place mentally and something traumatic is happening in his life, how much more blatant does it have to be)
@@bravemonkey455 Nah. People with that kind of brain has something stained by evil. Kids that do that sort of thing can burn in hell.
Murderers aren't typically released into public unless they are LEO, so....
@@briannachurch5515 Do not worry. California is so liberal. They are letting these crazy folks out.
This concert was held at dix road at the old Penelope thrift store. Middle of downriver dirrty Michigan where I grew up no way I'd let my daughter go there.
Thank you for helping me understand better
They were very negligent.
I've experienced a wellness check from a new friend - who wasn't quite accustomed to my depression-related mood swings - who overreacted. There were three or four cops who came through my door and searched around my home. One of them made me call my mother and then snatched the phone once she got on the line, and walked out to speak with her.
So of course I don't understand the severe lack of police response in this story, because they were pretty thorough with me!
were they going to reassemble the bodies, anyway? small town.
@@kittysplode
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I hear you, my dad is well known for his erratic mental health and is known to go off radar a lot....but when he didn't check in on an important family event ( which he always does regardless) I called the police ASAP, and they went straight out to check on him....he was OK, just had a heavy depressive episode
I'm sure you were an angel and victim and did nothing selfish disrespectful or annoying
@@jenniferanderson3959
You're correct 😊
How did a teenage boy manage to murder 4 people, 2 of them being adults in one small house?! It’s just mind blowing to me
20 years old and full of rage. That's most men 3 years into the military. 🤷🏻♂️
They trusted him.
i'd be curious to know what effects a withdrawal from energy drinks might have on a human body
@@direktive4 I am sure that it is intense. Even a person that drinks caffeinated beverages struggle with some withdrawals. Shaking, diarrhea, Confusion, irritability, fatigue, ect. And it appears that he enjoyed energy drinks quite often and being a heavy drinker of them. I can practically guarantee you that he experienced some intense withdrawals.
Is it factual that he did not have any energy drinks while he was there?..
Sounds like he killed 3 of them during the night while they slept and ambushed the 4th as no defensive wounds were found.
If you dance with the devil...you dont change him. He changes you
Gee, I wonder what gave him the impression they were exclusively together?… 🙄
*"The next time you check your myspace, YOULL BE AT MY HOUSE! I love you sooo SO much baby; forever and always. You are my one and only everything, I can't wait to see you baby it's like 6:17 AM, and I've been up since 4ish filled with uber amounts of excitement I can't wait.”*
exactly, idk wtf is wrong with girls that say goofy shi like that either bc they’re bored or it’s like entertainment OR maybe he was a catfish in her eyes & she lost attraction towards him when she saw him & then was leaving him hanging at the concert but that doesn’t excuse what he did but that does explain why he thought she was his and that she was going to be loyal bc she said it herself 😂
" I had to do it, my mind just snapped" I dont believe a word of it. So unconvincing. Hes smiling when he says it. Funny I was bullied for my weight (o so much for my red hair) and glasses. I never murdered anyone, nor could I. And they way you describe what it feels like to be bullied, wow. You described exactly how I used to feel. I had over two decades of therapy for being bullied, molested and beaten. I still have anger but have learned control. I get loud and animated quickly when challenged, more as a defense (Im a big guy now) but I no longer back down from a confrontation, maybe even to my determent. But kill someone, even iin self defense... I dont have that in me.. Hurt or main even to protect myself maybe, never kill. Im glad he didnt hang himself to "face his consequences"
We don't know how much the girls bullied him on that trip. From all reports, it sounds like they weren't very nice to him at all.
Should not compare yourself to those with psychopathy, brain literally operates differently.
@Herbert West yeah I agree. Specially after she said she" loves him forever and always" and how her " insides feels squishy" and then treats him like that after he drove so far for love.
well, see, you a bitch while he a real ass nigga, that the dif
@@kittysplode so a lil bitch who lets his emotions turn him into a killer, is a real ass man? Haha funny shit. Or where you implying 'real ass nigers' means lil weak bois who are emotional?
The phone calls from the moms to the police shattered me... :( My daughter is 25 and if I couldn't get ahold of her for 2+ days I'd be frantic, and to know what we know, and they didn't yet, it just affected me way more than I expected.
I don’t understand how the police were in the home while the victims were when they checked in on the basement….did they not smell the fucking decomposing bodies? Wtf
is she single?
Shes up for a bang?
The video to Emma is terrifyingly disturbed. This lad is so awkward, no wonder he could not find meaningful connections.
This type of clear insanity is not hard to recognise. His parents should have seen it coming if they were paying any attention to their child
I love these videos pure gold. The world is a crazy place.
Incompetent parents, preachers, & police...Cops didn't even cuff him when they picked him up. What a Privilege
It’s weird to me that the parents didn’t have any friends or colleagues or anyone questioning where they were. That they could be missing for days yet no one called the police? Like even Melanie’s mom was concerned they “dropped off the face of the earth” to later know they were dead inside that house and no one except Melanie’s mom was so very concerned is sad as well.
I'm at the part where she says her fault has been missing for 2.5 days. She's a minor. I'd be in that front yard with the police demanding entry to locate my child on the first day. Unemancipated minors can't not come home and the police just not do anything, they have to help.
That's one of my favorite things about the Chandler Halderson stuff. His parents were so loved by their friends and coworkers they IMMEDIATELY went over to the house because they thought something was off.
Blaming music is the easy way out to not deal with mental health issues.
You know that "Blaming it on the Stones" is still a thing...
Or culture issues
I used to think it was ridiculous and then I hypnotized myself to endure natural child birth. What you listen to over and over and over can make an imprint on your mind. Especially if it encompasses other facets of life. It may for certain people of course not everyone.
No, it’s satan , not the music, really
Just one of the many reasons why parents should be involved in their children's lives whether they like it or not! ....this is what love is!
This child is so ridiculously clueless, he lashed out violently killing four people, says “fuck the world and everyone in it, I hate this place,” and then says “PEACE!”
Context is key. He’s not using “peace” in the sense of non-violence. He’s saying “peace” as in bye. Ironic yes, but in context it’s very typical to say bye this way within this age group especially.
He said "Peace" as in goodbye. People are brainwashed, it's no different than when someone says "god damnit" or "Jesus Christ" out of frustration even though they aren't necessarily religious, it's just that they grew up in western society dominated by Abrahamic religions such as Christianity so the phrases are etched into their subconscious minds. It's about as ironic as crying to God when you're in pain, even though you don't actually believe in him.
Yeah, but that's the irony of the "goodbye", isn't it?? A killer saying "peace". He ain't even listening to himself. Smh.
@@TheCnicus no YA’LL are missing the point. ‘peace out’ has been evolved to emptily and merely mean “see u later” when in reality it should be taken at face value. PEACE OUT means leave with love. So yes. it’s EXTREMELY ironic when you’re really thinking about the weight of the words we overlook everyday, because he will do everything but PEACE OUT when he rots off of this world.
Spot on! There’s a lot of kids like this where I live and go ⏰ 💣
I was a huge fan of horrorcore when I was young, I remember when this case came to light a lot of the horrorcore artist had memorials for the victims. It was such a sad day, can't believe the way the police handled this case.
the horrocore artists took advantage of the situation and only cared about being on tv because thats the most attention they ever had. i know because i was a part of it. fuck them. rip to those girls.
I am surprised they even found the note about the Airport, seen as they twice missed 4 dead bodies.
Why do people like 'horrorcore'?
@@cemoihonay because it's loud, aggressive and annoys parents
@@cemoihonay not being racist but white people are weird. What is interesting in horrorcore? I really think white people are crazy😂 Most of serial killers are white, Most twisted cases involve them, etc. They claim it's hard life and too much stress but we are stressed on daily basis yet we don't do that kind of shit.