NEW: Hobie Pro Angler 360 Series Kayak - 360° ROTATING pedal drive
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In This Video I Test The New Hobie Pro Angler 360!
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You can pedal the new Hobie PA12 or PA14 360 series in all directions. You can steer with both the rudder and by spinning the pedal drive 360°. The pedal drive is direction of propulsion is controlled by a 2nd hand control. No more pull cords to go reverse. Just turn the 360 mirage drive hand control so the pedal arrow indicator faces backwards and you can pedal in reverse....or side to side...or at an angle...HECK you can pedal in INFINITE directions! Nothing else is like this on the market.
Pro Angler 12 360 MSRP of $4,649 (excluding taxes and shipping) at time of filming
Pro Angler 14 360 MSRP of $4,799 (excluding taxes and shipping) at time of filming
CAN THE 360 DRIVE BE USED ON OLDER MODEL HOBIES?
No, it is a completely different drive well with gear integration for turning the 360 drive fins. It is "currently" only an option for the new Pro Anglers with "Click and Go" 360 hull system.
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Really cool design but $4500 is absolutely Insane.
For $4500 I could buy a basic paddle kayak or SUP and be fully kitted to go lake fishing, inshore and off shore fishing with gear and pfd.
For that price I would but a real boat....
Insane mechanism with isane price for insane ppl!...🖕😝
I'll just make my own system for that much . Hell for $4500 I can put a trolling motor on it with a power inverter and a car battery
4500$ im buying a goddamn boat!
My mind is completely blown! I was expecting something new and fresh from Hobie, but this totally blew me away!!!
Guess who's going to win all the awards this year?!
I might have to bow to the Hobie gods now too!!!
Leave it to Hobie who started the $2000 kayak trend to totally out do themselves. Why I bought a wilderness systems. Why I Don't drink coffee at fivebucks.
Hobie is the industry leader in design and with that come high pricing. There are several peddle boats coming to market at half the cost - but they don’t offer a reversible drive. Check Pelican, Lighting Strike, both are available now and the Vibe has one releasing in February (Vibes the one i’m excited about). All are based on Hobie’s original drive system
Kayaks are getting way too expensive. I'm considering just leaving it behind and customizing a jet ski
That's because the market is massive right now and there's a boom on. For us guys that have been around forever and will continue to be long after the "boom" is gone, we'll see the prices drop down. But by then these prices will be considered cheap, because everything will have doubled by then. That's usually how it works.
Hobie has never had a price drop. Most people just wait for a used one to pop up.
For $4500, you can buy a used boat. Or jet ski or whatever. Really decent boat if you want with trailer.
Hobie is the industry leader in design and with that come high pricing. There are several peddle boats coming to market at half the cost - but they don’t off reverse. Check Pelican, Lighting Strike, both are available now and the Vibe has one releasing in February (Vibe is the one i’m excited about). All are based on Hobie’s original drive system
@@Clearanceman2 I never had any kinda luck finding a seaworthy craft with those numbers.. I assume that they're out there.
These are pretty awesome. So many uses here in wa. From lakes and rivers to the bay, Puget wound and ocean. I could fish everywhere and launch from anywhere and being disabled looks pretty easy to drag. Bus at a disabled veteran on a fixed income it’s way out of my price range. Man looks stable too.
Hobie is one of the most innovative companies in the world. Hobie combines style, comfort, speed and agility to produce masterpieces. I am content using the ones that I have owned for over a decade.
I would have to agree. Made In USA, Innovation, and R&D like they have comes at a price.
I just bought one, and it’s like spending the same amount on an elliptical that sits in one spot and you cannot catch fish, listen to the loons or watch the sunset. It’s a phenomenal kayak for people who are very serious.
Agreed. Pretty awesome kayak. I’ve spent $7000 on a Hobie TI. You can’t take the money with you. Buy what makes you happy and feel most alive.
Many comments say over priced, but I fish in narrow tidal creeks where I get in epic battles with 30 inch red fish where I must reverse in my current kayak by pulling a cable multiple times during a fight. That 360 would be a game changer.
i know this video is pretty old, but I just wanted to thank you for the high up overhead shots you took. I have watched, no joke, close to 60 " review" videos all showing the same thing but none that show the handle and the alignment arrow moving at the same time like you captured here. I have been trying to find out if my 360 handle is loose or its supposed to have some play in it. I can finally see someone turn the handle and the arrow move together and see that the "overcorrection" needed for the handle is normal. THANKS
one of the most innovate companies out there. Innovation determines a company's future and Hobie has a bright future.
They just priced it way out of my range. The reason to kayak fish is you dont want to spend alot of money on a boat well that is used boat prices.
Brian Taylor many agree with you and others might not. I don’t price bash on my end due to everyone having different budgets. I just try to show the kayak and let viewers decide if it is for them.
Brian Taylor it is currently priced outside of my budget as well though.
@Brain Taylor, I totally agree!
Adam Austin thing is they know people will buy it. They have a formula for their business model and it seems they are doing good.
Adam Austin when you have money why would you need sense. People that have money has a difference sense. No one needs multiple supercars but people that can’t afford it won’t buy it cause it don’t make sense for them. If you make 10 million a year and worth 50 million then it wouldn’t make sense to just hold all that money and not buy crazy extravagant things. If you think about it. Does it make sense for so many to buy the iPhone X at 1000. For some people it makes sense but for majority it doesn’t. Basically I’m saying since you think it doesn’t make sense. Then that just means you can’t afford it. If I can realistically afford it and want it then I’ll buy it. If I can’t then I’ll buy something I can. Good day.
and this is why im happy other companies are releasing their own paddle drive kayaks at a cheaper price lets say $3k cheaper
I will most likely get one of these. However, the ability to go in reverse immediately without using your hands is still an issue.
Thanks Justin. This will sell just as well as every other Hobie kayak. For me the drive is incredible but I own a PA14 and honestly probably won't buy another one since I do some many different types of kayak fishing (freshwater, inshore & offshore) and the PA14 is so heavy. If or I should say when they come out with a 360 drive for the Outback if the price comes in about a thousand more than the current price I'd stand in line to buy one.
Nice!! But it puts buying a $700 kayak I want back in perspective or maybe even one of the jonny boats bass 100's.
It’s awesome by far the best yak on the market!!! To bad it’s priced out of reach!!!
Thanks 🙏❓❔❓❔❓
That's $6100 CAD. That's absolutely insane for a "toy."
What price would you pay?
Just curious. I don’t place value via my channel because everyone has different budgets and values things differently. I try to stick to on water performance and facts.
Have you seen what your run of the mill name brand mountain bike goes for these days?
@@ChiefToad no. Probably because I'm not into mountain biking.
@@KayakDIY I see it this way, this is THE yak, i cant see it miss anything, so i really thinking about buying this, yes the prize is heavy, but if you take care you have a yak for maybe 15-20 years at least. An maybe you can buy a nice boat for this, but with this one i can fish a cruse down the shore at once, keep position ect. If im gonna do that in a boat, i have to buy an electriccan motor with position keeper ect, no this is the thing, pricey yes indeed.
Fish Without Fear try new stuff then dick head 🤦🏽♂️ he was making a point, not trying to find out your interests.
$4700???? Typo?????
Outrageous Price. I am sure people have money to throw away. I spent $1300 on a 14 foot Jon Boat, holds 4 adults, 4 fishing rods, cooler, battery for my electric motor and very comfortable.
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Man, I really want one. I've watched this several times and it just makes me want one more. I gotta get it outta my head. Maybe one day I can get one. This is the ultimate. I'm wondering if you would have to buy a trailer. Would it damage the kayak to put it on top of a vehicle? Great video man. 👍👍
Actually I found videos on putting it on a car. No problem, but if I'm not getting one then what am I worried about? 🤣😂
$4000...??
As an owner of 2 2015 pa14s, I still love my rig but wifey never used hers so we sold it and now she rides in a low profile bass pro seat in back of mine lol... so if you're looking at Pro Angler keep in mind you can fit 2 in the 14. Although the new 360 is cool, if I was single I'd get a sol skiff setup which is probably the same price w motor and trailer with the benefit of adding range to my trips. Getting ready to buy an ankona shadowcast 16 next, rigged with a trailer and motor will cost the same as what I paid for my two pa14s :(
Awesome, its helps a lot for those dont want to use paddle. I really like it hope there's a product just like that here in the Philippines. Shout out Buddy.
That is really cool. I never knew how efficient those pedal paddle kayaks are at moving you quickly. They always looked like a gimmick to me. lol... Being old, fat, and lazy I would still rather have a sail or a trolling motor, but this seems to do the job and it keeps it human powered meaning no registration and very stable looking with mostly 2 free hands for fishing. Outstanding!
I plan to do a kayak sail install video pretty soon.
@@KayakDIY I just have a tiny home made sail that came with my kayak from the previous owner. Just two sticks with a triangle of Dacron between them and some bungee cords. It's only good for going downwind. The problem with wind and motors is that in my state you have to register any boat as soon as you put a motor or sail on it.
Anything human powered is exempt, so canoes, row boats, peddle boats, and kayaks don't need any registration. You may want to check local regulations to see if it is the same in your state. This pedal power gets around that nicely. :) Too bad that I haven't seen a kit to add it to regular older kayaks.
MAN, the drive mech is the kayak! Nice!
Looks like Hobie did it again. Changed the whole game.
They definitely like to push boundaries.
Very innovative. We have quite a few kayak companies innovating lately.
The big thing everyone complained about was about not being able to easily go into reverse. A couple of people mentioned “hands free” reverse but I think people are just looking for issues. The investment in engineering forces the price. Of course Hobie is in business to make a profit, I just wish I could afford one... just did maintenance on the car, A/C failed this morning. I simply can’t justify spending $5k on a yak, $900+ on a trailer, etc... Looks fun though.
Well damn, a Z Drive kayak!!! Very nice but to much money. I can really appreciate the technology it has but I'm not sold. Word is bond!!!
May I ask....do folks have experience with how well the Hobie pedal drives hold up over time? I've never seen one up close, so I wonder if they are relatively complex, and thus result in more repairs over time? Thoughts...?
Which would be more stable in rough windy water kayak or 6ft pontoon.
Great Drive. But, I would suggest putting gears on both sides to helpthem last longer. 1 free flowing gear and the other the "DRIVE" gear. Help take stress off the "drive" gear or steering gear. Which ever you call it.
Nice to see Hobie is catching on to the idea of zero turn radius (360 degree turn) in a fishing craft. We've been doing it for 10 years and this kayak is still not a Twin Troller.
Its not but you last on a battery and the hobie lasts on the body.. who will last longer? I'd say a human will last longer then a battery considering batteries cost a bit on only last a few years and they can have many faults also you got faults with the motors that may need to be fixed which would cost money.. but leg power well.. i have had a hobie for 9 years and never had any issues.. i been inshore, offshore, through surf and not one issue and can go for many hours. Can the twin troller do the same?
@@alishabab3 Your questions are valid but have very little to do with the question of which is a better fishing platform. Yes, batteries don't last forever, but they can be replaced. Yes, motors don't last forever, but they can be replaced. And, they're cheap. The question is do you want the best FISHING platform, or a great exercise machine. You could find many valid reasons for wanting a kayak over a Twin Troller for your needs (going through surf, etc.), but the kayak is not a better fishing platform for most fishing applications or most people. This Hobie 360 drive is not about fishing. No-one is pole-in-hand fishing in their promos while operating the 360 drive. In a Twin Troller you can do this because it's operation is 100% hands free.
Insane 4k for this unit. Pretty sweet but wow. $4000. I can buy an aluminum fishing boat used
Es un sueño, en estas latitudes Argentina es imposible adquirir uno.
Muy muy hermoso 👏👏👏
Salut salut.
Extra cette nouvelle propulsion, mais peut-on l'utilisé en haute-mer ?
Muito top... gostei muito desse sistema de dirigibilidade. ..Parabéns aos Engenheiros..
Thrust vectoring for a kayak. Cool !!!!
$4500? I can get a new pelican with a motor transom and a motor for half that. Ridiculous
I did like the Catch PWR 100 a lot. So can’t fault you on that comment. 😉
In This Video I Test The New Hobie Pro Angler 360!
Pro Angler 12 360 MSRP of $4,649 (excluding taxes and shipping)
Pro Angler 14 360 MSRP of $4,799 (excluding taxes and shipping)
You can pedal the new Hobie PA12 or PA14 360 series in all directions. You can steer with both the rudder and by spinning the pedal drive 360°. The pedal drive is direction of propulsion is controlled by a 2nd hand control. No more pull cords to go reverse. Just turn the 360 mirage drive hand control so the pedal arrow indicator faces backwards and you can pedal in reverse....or side to side...or at an angle...HECK you can pedal in INFINITE directions! Nothing else is like this on the market.
CAN THE 360 DRIVE BE USED ON OLDER MODEL HOBIES?
No, it is a completely different drive well with gear integration for turning the 360 drive fins. It is "currently" only an option for the new Pro Anglers with "Click and Go" 360 hull system.
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Very nice but whats up with the cost ?
What are your thoughts on modding an older kayak with this newer Hobie Mirage Drove 360? Say a Pelican Catch 13?
I saw at least 5 youtubers who've been there and tried that new kayak. Is being a youtuber popular in US? or Is kayaking popular?
What do you guys have for a plus size guy needing to get around a no motor boat lake? What do I mean by Plus size 6.1 feet tall and 120 kg ex footballer
Look at the Big Fish 108, Kaku Voodoo, Kaku Zulu, Hobie PA14, Native Titan, Jackson Big Rig, Those to me are setup for bigger guys.
I have some serious concerns about its reliability. A lot of moving parts there. You also seemed to have a fair amount of trouble when you turned it at speed.
We got to wait till the prices come down? And how much will they come down?
No one has missed fish due to not being able to peddle in circles. Its a nice luxury but at 5k I'm out!!!
Jarad White appreciate the feedback. I’m not sponsored by any kayak company. I just show the facts. Thanks for stopping by the channel.
Jarad White I miss all my fish for 1000 other reasons but this is never one of them LOL i completely agree
Yep, just imagine how many fish you can buy with 5K. You could return home with an expensive toy and no fish. They're just toys for the boys and the more they cost the more they buy them, leaving those who can't afford to foot 5K for a one man dinky with nothing. Why do they do it? Because having something too expensive, like a Mercedes or BMW, they can impress the Jonesies. But the Jonesies aren't interested in Dinky-dis, they have yachts, big boats, not tinnies kayaks. LOL. They will soon find themselves in the 'I made a mistake' situation and then they will sell it when they realised that all that money spent for a few fish? And when they sell it, watch how the toy has lost value, as after a few months, from 5K when purchased to 2K when sold.
Finessing and jugging
I can play an mp3 of loons singing and sit in my bathtub and save 5000$
Love my Hobie and love my 180 drive. This 360 is SICK. I love it.
I think this Hobie Pa 360 is awesome worth every penny 6 years of salaries plus trial and error . Lots of people here say they can buy a bass boat for 5 grand. I can buy a 40,000 CC boat but don't want one to much trouble not worth the effort .We don't fish from kayaks for the same reasons as fishing on a bass boat it's not a comparison . People spend 5 grand on golf clubs, bikes and all sorts of things do i think its worth it not for me to say. It's like a tool If it makes your sport more easier and enjoyable and you can afford it Go For It ! Plus Hobie has plenty of other kayaks to choose from they are still making the Pa 12,14 2020 180 for 1,000 less. I will be buying a 360 just having a hard time with color LOL.
Definitely innovative but also one of the highest priced fishing kayaks on the market. Competition in pedal kayaks is increasing. It will be interesting to see how well they sell.
@@KayakDIY Yes 360 is Highest price Kayak on the market but they also have other models for every budget .
The new Hobie has more swagger than a three ball Tom Cat.
Awesome!
vagabond88817 😂
Hi i have a hobbie outback twin 2010
is there a way to add a nice sit on it so i dont get wet any more ? thanks
Nice demo. Everytime I see this boat I want it more.
I see a lot of ppl on here talking about the price and yeah it sounds like a lot but take a bass boat on a nice sized lake eats 300 dollars a day on water and then wintering the boat other 200 then Motor repairs Lets say other 200 I know bc i know ppl who have boats it adds up where this kayak takes no gas and is powered by u I know where the smart buy is
Still rather have an aluminum boat with 5 hp motor, or even a trolling motor
We think it is wonderful for Outside versus those gasoline boats that only damage. Right on Hobie however that is an expensive piece of plastic.
Que imponente esos Kayaks aca en Uruguay casi no llegan y para nosotros los que vienen son super caros..
Yup on the design. Nope on the price. Heh.
How long until patent expires on this one?
I mean, that's SUPER kewl but I'm willing to paddle for $3500.
Dear Santa...
How much resistance is on the 360 handle when you turn the drive?
Cup & Cone totally manageable even at high speeds, but I do “slightly” notice increase resistance at higher speeds when using 360 handle. The drive and system is shocking. Can literally spin on a dime. The going sideways to parallel park by a dock is killer. Folks just need to decide how bad they want it. I try not to talk heavily on price and value because that varies heavily based on people’s budget. It is $4649 -$4799 for the PA12 & PA14. That is before taxes and “potentially” any shipping costs.
$4,500 ?!?! You do know you can get a full fibreglass boat, motor and trailer for that price right...?
A proper Bassboat? i wish i knew that...
And that is true, bro. They're rip-offs.
O melhor kayak do mundo.
Where are you people getting your numbers from? Kayaks and small plastic bass boats have always been expensive. A decent aluminum jonboat is better than $2k.
Those plastic pelican boats are better that $1200 and thats with no trailer. Those old school Basstenders are $1500 and up... I just saw a few on Greedbay last week and they were out of line too.My Current design touring boat was $4k.. and talking about jetskis.. best of luck in finding a seaworthy ski for for that money... Maybe you guys have better luck than i do in finding bargains.
That is an absolute battleship of a kayak, can you even paddle that thing?
Not very well. I’ve tried to paddle Pro Angler kayaks and it is not a pleasant experience. It is doable though.
Outstanding design idea of this new version drive.👍
That is so much fun with it.
I want have one of this in Taiwan.
By far the best Kayak on the market not even a competitor close to the quality this is the Royal's Royce of Kayaks and at the price of one is there down side.
Only "Potential" downside is that it is more complex in design. Anytime you add more complexity you increase the likelihood of failure. However, if anyone can pull it off and create a reliable yet complex design kayak...Hobie can. They also stand behind their products.
greetings from Romania ! Very nice but very expensive for me. maybe I'll have it in another life!
That's a lot of money for an average family it's a sweet Yak but expensive for sure I would have to buy 2 of them
did someone accidentally type the price wrong?
It’s still not as efficient as a propeller, at the end of a stroke there is a dead spot where no thrust is being generated. A prop is always turning, no dead spot, and so always generates thrust, therefore more efficient. Over a distance this makes a difference. Very manoaverable though.
I’m in the market for this feature in the outbacks. Even with trailer the PA is too much kayak. Outbacks perfect
Outback 360 would definitely be awesome!
I wonder if you even need the rudder anymore?
Cool innovative design, but what was great about the normal pedal drive was that its not a complex build. So if it breaks or you gotta do maintainence on it, you wont have to be sitting at a table pulling hairs out of your head. Imo simple is better and the whole 360drive is kind of a gimmicky cash grab. Hobie is making a good effort though, and hopefully it serves others well on the water.
So cool. Love the color. However, that is a bit pricey. Great yak though.
Katie Lammers I agree hun. We can’t afford it right now. However, pretty dang cool and fun.
I love it already
I think it’s priced fairly, I’m buying two of them. Awesome kayak.
Have u purchased yours yet?
Hello sir, can you make a video with a 350 pound person on the kayak, I would love to buy the 14, it is the only one capable of supporting my weight, I think, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Wow. That’s impressive!
Pretty innovative in design. Performance blew me away.
Thats a nice lookin kayak
nope, i have a prop angler 2018 and was going to upgrade, too expensive not anymore
An underwater shot would be pretty awesome
I agree. The water wasn’t clear enough. It is pretty cool to see the kick up fine in action. I’ve seen stock footage.
Are the 360 Drive gears plastic?
Now I feel stupid for not waiting 3 years to but]y my PA14. Still destined to have to use the paddle to go back. I am now officially depressed and conflicted.
Wishing i hadn’t watched this. I was gonna get the newest Hobie seen the price laughed. And decided to buy the Bass Tracker Classic XL 50HP 12k instead. But after seeing how well this maneuvers. Am thinking of buying the 360 instead. My last hobie I just wished had a reverse never dreamed of turning on a dime. Great video
That is so cool. ..look like you can drif with that on water
I can see it now....a new Fast and Furious movie with Hobies drifting. 🤣👍
All these people complaining about the price must not realize that the previous model wasn't exactly cheap at $3700. I believe you will still be able to buy the non 360 model but for $900 more you get the 360 version. To me the 360 option is worth another $900 on a kayak that's not cheap either way.
So the 2020 180 PA12/14 will be exactly the same as the 2019 version?
It's available@ India Kerala????
Is it made of gold?
Yes....Fools gold. 😉
Jk. Aside from the fact I can’t afford it without selling a few kayaks I did really like it. It is huge but so incredibly responsive and maneuverable on the water.
the outback kayak will have the 360 pedal as well?
This kayak is badass!!! Drool!!!
Agree!
Hats off to Hobbie for this innovation. Still don’t love the fact that it’s not hands free reverse. I also don’t know many fisherman with $5 large to spend on a kayak.
I don’t like the fact that the fin system isn’t pedal free. Ohh well
Wow! I didn't see that coming either.
Awesome meeting you yesterday. 🙂👍
I like this. This is a amazing system.
Hobie is off the chain, cannthey make it anymore complicated? I'll go with Jackson!!!!
It's pretty cool, but kinda defeats the purpose of wanting a kayak. At this point might as well just get a fishing boat.
May as well have a paddle with all the hand work, useless when you actually need it fighting a fish, still haven't worked out hands free reverse
We can stand up in that kayak too?
Easily. One of the easiest kayaks to stand up on. My brother and I both stood and fished from my Pro Angler 14.
@@KayakDIY cool !!! Thanks
What's the sense when fishing salt water?
Couldn’t tell you, but for tight quarters it is phenomenal.
Super idea 🤝🎉🙏😎👨✈️
Agree. Pretty awesome.
Question, will that drive fit inside the front hatch?
I do a lot of fishing that would be awesome for fishing it looks like. Thanks for sharing.
Está bueno ya probaron rio o mar ???
Will this come with the 2020 outback
vouthy vith at the moment this is only a Pro Angler series “optional upgrade”. So my understanding is they will still have regular Pro Angler and then the 360 will be an optional upgrade. You can’t use 360 pedal drive in any other kayak other than a Hobie hull designed with the 360 drive well. The 360 drive well is a complete redesign and is nothing like what we have seen over past 10+yrs.
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