TempleOS in Qemu
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2022
- In this video I install TempleOS in Qemu and play around with it
Download TempleOS here
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finally, mental outlaw reviews a good operating system
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The best.
His controversies aside, Terry Davis was a truly knowledgeable and gifted programmer and the computing world is just a little less beautiful without him imo. RIP Terry ❤️
I agree with his opinions on feds, and how you deal with them.
but controversies included, Terry Davis was a truly knowledgeable and gifted programmer and the world is more beautiful having had him
Racism aside he was based as hell.
Edit: he wasn't a racist nvm
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>when you don't want to spend time understanding a program to instil spyware so you end the creator's life
@@cbtillery135 he wasn’t racist just skitzo.
Man's so talented he put 3D models in a text file
Fucking divine intellect
That part blew my mind man.
When I got a 3D printer I forced myself to learn Open SCAD which is a text based code driven 3D CAD software which lends itself well to sharing parameterized versions of the ‘source code’ to places like Thingiverse so people can generate their own ‘remix’ version with customized dimensions... so from my perspective it’s not terribly hard to imagine a small amount of text generating 3D sprites, having the entire OS able to render them in realtime is the side of it that’s more impressive to me, that should make for some creative implementations of clever GUI things, I suspect... SOC devices even since it’s so tiny.
What do you think a .obj is?
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My brother in christ...
Terry always mentioned that he hated learning what amounted to two programming languages (the shell language and assembly) so he made holy c universal
genius
To be fair, writing anything in assembly is hell. It's a reasonable response.
Can it run Doom?
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo Damn right it can.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo Why would the holiest OS not allow you to slay the legions of hell?
I always loved Terry's streams showing off his tech. It was impressive to watch raw passion as he demonstrated drawing elephants and the like in such a constrained visual style. Great chat interaction too, he was truly a man of the people. RIP.
looking forward to your vid on best Temple Jrpgs.
I agree with his opinions on feds, and how you deal with them.
I will always have a soft spot for Terry Davis. His more inflammatory outbursts can be blamed completely on his illness, if the reactions of those who knew him are anything to go by. His passion and joy for programming and exploring computers is just something else, and, while I wish he had received the help he needed, I can take some solace in knowing he's in a better place now.
When are you going to review the TempleOS games Casp?
@@yakivpopavich He was right about how everything was designed on purpose.
Some stuff about TOS:
The .CPP extension is deprecated as it has been replaced by .HC. This is also why Edit didn't have syntax highlighting. The .Z enables compression.
If something hangs the system, for example a while(TRUE); loop, you can press either CTRL-ALT-c (cancel task) or CTRL-ALT-k to kill it.
Technically, TempleOS has HDAudio. Terry didn't implement it because he couldn't get it to work.
You don't need to re-type code in the command line. You can put your cursor at the end on a line of code you want to get run and press enter.
The whole operating system gets JIT compiled on boot.
Left-click/space usually opens up files/changed directory. Right-click/enter opens a submenu for file actions.
CTRL-ALT-a enables AutoComplete, CTRL-ALT-A disables it.
ZealOS is a fork of TempleOS with 32-bit graphics and networking support. Networking has a bug where e1000 hangs, but virtio works just fine. ZealOS also has SATA support, heck it's even a requirement. Also dark theme.
Damn he only uses JIT for the whole thing, that's impressive.
Didn't know a fork existed
why would you want 16,777,215 colors that just sounds unpleasant
I agree with his opinions on feds, and how you deal with them.
@@zombi541 I agree, that’s too much choice. It’s unholy too
RIP Terry! Always in our hearts, and living rent free in the glowies heads!
What's funny is that Terry Davis never pose any threat to the US's government. It was Edward Snowden who did. He was a journalist famous for founding wikileaks, a site for publishing whistle blower papers. It's because of his site that now we know how the CIA spies on us
Glowies got to him. But they can't kill his spirit.
Should be noted the term glowie originated with Terry. Gone before he could run over the rest of them.
I agree with his opinions on feds, and how you deal with them.
@@dcogs8856 lmfaooo
If only this video had been uploaded in the divine resolution of 640x480
For anyone who wants to see more showcasing of TempleOS, Linus Tech Tips actually has a very respectful video in TempleOS.
They go into more features of the OS and the way they showed it off gives the rignt message to the audience, i.e. Respect Terry and recognize his controversial actions and words stem from tragic mental illness.
what controversial actions? He did nothing wrong! Oh wait I forgot zoomers are actually stupid enough to think a word can be controversial.
I do agree with his opinions on how to identify and deal with feds but otherwise, yes, it was sad to see him struggle with mental illness. On the otherhand, this project was a consequence of said mental illness so there is at least a silver lining.
Try out and try to understand his os because it is his gift to humanity and is probably how he would want to be remembered.
I know Terry was a deeply troubled person but I geninuely miss him. I loved his streams and his walks that he would go on. Cheers Terry may you finally be at peace
I dont. I couldnt watch his streams after a while because of his "fans" essentially torturing him and egging on his psychosis. Shit made me real sad.
@@lotekchapra The amount of disrespect just pisses me off. Can't believe how sad and lowly excuse of a human being you'd have to be to make fun of someone like Terry
“..I guess Bash is bloat in God’s temple” 💀
RIP Terry..must have been an unbelievable amount of knowledge, dedication & creativity in that mind of his.
spam bots are evolving O_o
even the making of the Bash shell is cursed so of course it's not allowed on the temple
Thanks brother Mental. Now you transcend into the spiritual realm of operating systems. No OS can compare to the greatness of our third temple!
I agree with his opinions on feds, and how you deal with them.
I think Terry is often rightfully titled as the greatest programmer of all time.
Probably only someone like the dude that wrote RollerCoaster Tycoon (or what it was) completely by himself in assembly gets close to him.
God, I wish holy c was the mainstream scripting language instead of python
We need to get a separate compiler what would work outside the OS
@@fus132 shouldn’t be too hard
Others glow, you shine❤
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GLOWIES GTFO
Terry is one of my inspirations to get into low-level programming. The idea of a compiled shell using the same language as the core of the operating system, coupled with the interface of early BASIC, really sticks with me.
Same here kiddo
His work could be considered a piece of art that can be admired even for those who don't know anything about programming.
Terry was really an amazing guy. Hope he is at peace
He's running them over in the afterlife
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Glowies
Lmao
Not only did he build his own house from trees he cut down, he planted those trees himself
I’ve been running TempleOS on bare metal on a spare computer for a few months now. RIP Terry Davis; we didn’t deserve him
@don't be surprised SHUT UP BOT!
I have an old x86, probably 256M ram. Do you know what the minimum requirements are?
@@adama7752 I think you need to be using a 64-bit CPU but other than that I’m not sure
No it was a mission, holly c more might actually be one of the last bastion of freedom if big tech gets their way.
There is nothing you can say to describe how impressive this project is.
Rest in peace Terry!
This.
If he made this in rust we could say
Rust in Peace
@@kusumabhat6609 i bet someone is currently rewriting Temple OS in Rust.
@@kusumabhat6609 First mistake, last mistake!
@@cnr_0778 You solidified my idea. Now I'm def gonna do that as a tribute to king Terry.
Something funny i found out is that the seat the pope sits on is called the "Holy See" so HolyC is a play on words
Something I would like to mention is that you can actually run programs directly from the editor by pressing F5, you don't have to exit and write #include. As for the editor itself, I believe it has nothing to do with Ed from Unix, it is completely new created by Terry as is everything else in this OS. Also the .CPP extension is old and doesn't have syntax highlighting so it's better to use .HC, but this was already mentioned in another comment by Slendi. Also about the OS being 16mb, that's actually the OS including tons of demos and like ~20 games. The actual barebones OS is only 2mb. Also just another thing to mention, yesterday was the 4th anniversary of Terry Davis's death, he died on August 11th 2018, may he rest in peace. Thank you so much for covering TempleOS!
So what you're telling me is i could probably boot TOS off of a ps2 memory card file if i theoretically knew how to do that
@@aAaAaAaAaA1234567ize if it's compatible with temple os
@@aAaAaAaAaA1234567ize Actually the bare OS is 1.2 MB not 2.2 MB if you use the filesystem Terry invented called RedSea for the install instead of FAT32. But yeah with fat32 it is 2.2 mb.
Creating a whole new OS from scratch, in itself is an amazing achievement. Stuff of legends
Alphabet boys can never win against holy C
For everyone wondering, the text at 3:00 (ウィンドウズ) actually means Windows and it's also pronounced just like the English word.
Uindousu
@@darukutsu More like Windousu. ウィ is used to make it more western wi.
Wow, I was really wondering that but didn't expect to find it here. Thank you beautiful and kind human being.
@@cherubin7th the Japanese enunciation doesn't have a "Wi" equivalent, the "Uindousu" is correct because that's how you write it if by sound
The only W sounds are わ、を、う
I just saw the katakana in his wallpaper. Thanks for pointing it out.
Want you to know you are one of the few RUclipsrs I watch. Take care
Thanks
one of few tech tubers i watch lol
Make sure to follow him on Odysee as well :)
A brilliant man fighting so many personal demons. He would have been great working for us, mental issues and all.
glowing
Don't move,stand right there in the road...
ayo?
How did you pry yourself off my windshield?
It's amazing how TempleOS was able to achieve a more modern day Commodore 64 experience. It would be cool to see a video on the TempleOS derivatives that aim to further improve and modernize the original
Check out ZealOS that looks really impressive
@@botbeamer Yeah, it basically takes TempleOS's unique advantages and enhances them
no, leave it be. its a work of art. you dont see people asking to fork and extend Mona Lisa do you?
R.I.P. Terry A Davis. You were the realest ninja around, and your talents and genius were too good for this world. I hope you're having a blast in the world after, mowing down glow in the darks while Jesus rides shotgun.
So Terry had the exact specs concerning lines of code, just like Noah had the measurements for his Ark. Huh.
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For somebody who had such illness, Terry was really gifted to code all this. I wonder what could he create if his health was fine.
I always wonder the same after these videos. Can imagine what he could've done for Linux.
Have you considered that perhaps because his health wasn't fine that's the reason he was able to create TempleOS in the first place?
@@LightninNarwhal101 Hmmm, that's actually good thought.
I agree with his opinions on feds, and how you deal with them.
He was able to do all this stuff _because_ he was mentally ill
That iso file is sooo much smaller than the font I downloaded this morning.
There are no separation of privileges because we are all equal in the eyes of God.
Even some normies use the word glowies. Without TempleOS Terry's legacy will still live on in the dictionary.
wait, did terry come up with that term originally? i had no clue
Terry Davis' story is so tragic. I hope he really is in a better place now, even though he was delusional due to his illness.
RIP
This OS insanely impressive. Very primitive, but genius in design.
It would be cool to see another operating system that runs nearly this smoothly.
Primitive in this case is subjective. Could do you do anything similar?
There can't be anything this smooth. Because this type of OS doesn't require anything to "load". It is all on the OS already.
@@2ar2betrY Well primitive can be used to describe something of a very simplistic nature, it need not always have such a negative connotation.
Is this a genuine question.
my reddit account got banned for repeating terry's holy words
reddit mods are seething after they realised reddit cant be used on templeos
Keep in mind that there is a "Lite" version of the OS which is 2Mb
Terry was so smart that he went insane. Rest in peace
Had to smile when I saw that he separated his games into fun and unfun. Ironically, it was often during his 'unfun' flight simulator that he'd get lost in thought.
Rest in peace, Terrence Andrew Davis.
This video was definitely one of the more informed looks at this operating system. It's as you say, most people either just focus on Terry or try to navigate three menus within the OS and then give up. You made it sound open-ended. Maybe we can return one day to T-OS and see if there are any secrets worth discovering. I find its very nature curious. It's open and accessible for everyone, just like a real temple. However, to make good use of Terry's OS you really have to speak (Holy) C fluently. You sort of have to be a jack of all trades even, like Terry was. Interested in games, interested in creating, interesting in sounds and graphics. Only then, I believe, you can create some meaningful program, update, add-on or whatever.
It helps MO understands chan culture and probably has the same respect for this Davis like we do.
Maybe there are some secrets to be discovered with TempleOS
Thank you for doing this. It makes the prospect of exploring this marvel of modern technology a little less daunting, and certainly encourages me at least to do so.
In my view, one must put aside esthetic judgments and realize that, for instance, real-time softwares can be created on this platform which will run at the maximum speed your hardware is capable of because it's right up against the metal, running at ring 0. Task switching makes other OSes look crippled.
Be ye not deceived by the simplicity of first impressions. This is proof that we who have taken the red pill have other options than those offered by corporate devils, so to speak.
"I'm the smartest programer that has ever lived" - God himself
Here's the real kicker. What if Terry wasn't crazy? That we all are and we were actually looking at a sane genius and he just felt bad that basically the entire world is corrupt and insane?
Have you actually listened to him before? lol I’m onboard with hating feds and all but dude definitely had more than a screw loose
@@jackieAZ or maybe you do and that's why you think he was crazy
Some people are known for designing programming languages (Dennis Richie, Larry Wall, Niklaus Wirth etc), and some are known for designing OS kernel (like Linus). Terry did both: a self-hosting OS. How many of you guys can do that? Sometimes the difference between "mad" and "genius" is super thin :)
Asking people if they ever talked to god is a great ice breaker in awkward social situations
The motives and the real life practicality of this TempleOS might be questionable.
But as you said, TempleOS is an engineering marvel in programming, building an entire OS from tru scratch and having so many features and utilities it's pretty miraculous.
"You run them over with your car, that's what you do." - King Terry
Ah, it's axiom that every tech youtuber will eventually cover TempleOS.
I only knew about Terry and TempleOS via Fredrik Knudsons channel. It was interesting to get a more technical look on his life's work. Thank you!
At various points in my career I've worked on embedded systems, HPC systems, cloud deployments, compilers, kernels, libc and financial trading systems. Terry's work here makes me feel like a big dumb-dumb banging rocks together in comparison.
We are all cavemen in comparison to him. As everyone else on this comment section have pointed out. If he could do this in his state of mind, imagine what he could have done. If he wasn't plagued.
Great point about the size of a Bible app compared to the whole system. That's the example that made me really appreciate it, a lot of work and talent is in this.
I've waited for this for sooo long!
Thank you! Now make glowing three letter agency jokes and the circle is complete!
Feds didn’t like Terry being so gawddamned based
When someone mentioned VMWare to Terry back in 2008, he hadn't even heard of it, and even though he had absolutely no clue what it was, he said something about how it was probably slow and caused limitations. From his comment, it seemed like he didn't even realize VMWare was used for virtualization.
What I did find with a quick search was a video where he's running TempleOS on QEMU. Maybe he used VMWare once he learned what it was, but this is what I know.
Here's a copy of his original comment on the OSDev forums:
"I have no idea what VMWARE softwares (sic) does and don't care. All I know is it's likely to be slow and you'll struggle with additional constracnts (sic).
The first thing I did was write an assembler and compiler so I could be independent. It may be too much for you guys."
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Oh, and another one he sent immediately after the one above:
"I have no idea what VMWARE does except add complexity and slow things down. It's just an additional hurdle you're creating fighting with VMWARE.
The first thing I did was write an assembler and compiler so I was independent. It took a year to reach that point. You guys probably work part time?
I've been at mine for 5 years full time."
Solo-building an OS from scratch is truly impressive!
But the devil definitely sneaked in the font...
Thank you for covering this masterpiece. This is beyond inspiring.
As much of a controversial figure Terry Davis was, you can really see him shine in that interview he did at McDonald’s. The guy was really intelligent and knowledgeable about programming and can see how lucid he was when he talked about that subject. Sadly, he happened to be plagued with a mental condition he couldn't get help for and that effectively destroyed his life.
Do you have a link to that interview?
I've been waqnting to see that interview for a while? Any chance you can link it?
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He DID get help for it for years... his parents tried for a very long time to get him treatment but he kept "running away"
@@doozledorf7036 I've been on schizo pills as a sleeping aid before, I really can't blame him for refusing to take them. At least for the ones I got, the brain completely fogged up and doing anything while on them felt like an insurmountable task. For someone working on an OS, I can't imagine that's good.
I'm not a Christian, but I must admit this is so impressive and cool.
I had never seen anyone explain it like you did, where you actually showed some of the features that stood out as you went through. Usually, if they do talk about the OS itself, they just look at it and say it looks weird, click on some stuff, then give up and talk about how weird terry was, like you said they do.
I had heard some people recently say that Temple OS isn't anything particularly impressive. I don't know enough to disagree with them, but I think you do, so it makes me happy to see it appreciated in that kind of way from someone knowledgeable.
May Terry rest in peace.
Man I just wanted to see a little bit of this but ended up staying to watch the whole thing. Pretty cool!
Thanks for the great adventure. I find Terry's OS a lot simpler and reasonable than any OS I've seen. In modern monster OS-es like Linux there are a lot of magic that is hard to understand until you face some specific problems. But here everything is pure. I understand that it is not as capable as modern systems and sooner or later during development you face problems that requires to either rewrite the whole project from scratch or use a duct tape.
3d models visible right where you define them, when text is cut off it scrolls s.t. you can see the whole thing. I'm seeing some unique and consistent design philosophy (make stuff fully visible right where it's defined) that you can only really get when something is written by 1 person. When you have more than 1 person working on the same code it sort of becomes, as I think of it, "hive mind code", and hive mind code is garbage. Much respect to Terry for pushing forward with his own vision, there's a lot of useful concepts in there
Still to this day the best work of a singular person. RIP Terry.
It’s a shame we never got a Drake x Terry Davis collab. Great video as always Drizzy!
I remember hearing about this guy- from what I remember, this OS is one of those things that’s really impressive just because it exists, even if the OS itself is awful. I felt really bad when I heard his story, it really makes you wonder when you see people like him. At least he got to make something for himself. I didn’t remember that he died, rest in peace.
It's not awful as an OS made for tinkering, the GUI may be bad, but don't conflate GUI with OS.
@@doltBmB I mean, as an OS it doesn't really win any awards besides being a fun toy made by a single man
@@Rugg-qk4pl average windows user can’t comprehend the genius of God’s Third Temple
@@fort809 Those Linux atheists man
@@Rugg-qk4pl It's like complaining that plan9 isn't useful in day to day work
Thanks for delving into this one. I find his work fascinating.
An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity
@Hack Mack Ah, you're one of *those* people
@Hack Mack Yup
Appreciate the amount of work you do to come up with a video like this. Thanks.
Thank you for the detailed breakdown! I was hoping to download Temple OS too!
The most respectful and on point review on the OS i seen about him and or the OS, and i'm not even christian., thank you very much!,
Finally, an operating system safe from built in spyware
Cause the file size of the OS would noticeably change.
This is like digging up some metal, forging the metal into an ax, and then shopping down some trees with the ax, then making a house out of those trees
4:24
Thank you for the warning and for keeping in mind people with epilepsy or problems looking at flashing lights. For anyone with such problems, just remove your eyes before the 4:30 mark. Pop em right out.
Fake issue
It's still hard to believe this guy made all this alone.
Imagine if things went different and God sent him to work on IT research and development instead. With the right people to guide and help him, we could've get some major breakthroughs.
he even made his own version of C for this thing like sometimes you gotta wonder if it really was gods 3rd temple
Ofcourse it was.
There is no question. I'm also an atheist.
His dad worked on the Triton nuclear missile systems. Both phenomenal achievements in their own right.
the only OS co-developed by god
I love the idea of sprites embedded within source files. RIP Terry
Most secure and stable operating system on the face of Earth. They don't even need McAfee antivirus with it. That's how badass it is.
As a younger person learning programming, I would earnestly believe that the ultimate test of my programming skill would be to build an OS from scratch from the ground up. Now that I have seen someone capable of such an intense feat, I don't mind giving that title to Terry Davis. He has certainly earned it.
Glow in the dark CIA....
Such an amazing OS. It's such a loss we cannot no longer learn from him. Thank you for this material, I'll onto it soon.
1:52 this actually is like growing a tree, chopping it and then building the house :)
Implementing a house from scratch
Step one: create the universe
I still hope that someday someone does a PhD research crossover between psych and cs to look at TempleOS. I imagine there is a lot to be learned about schizophrenia in that code.
I had some experience with C++ and C and ASM using BareBones Wiki, let me just say making hello world was hard enough. Larry built a whole new unix like OS with a functional language using its own compiler that's almost ludicrous to think about.
Only it's not Unix like - he hated old mainframe OS's - It's clearly Commodore 64 like where a computer has a single user and full access to the hardware.
what the guy above me said, + the path navigation and mounting drives to one letter abbreviations is really DOS-like.
Funny you should say that early dos is based around unix and DOS earlier nickname was dirty operation system jokingly because how rushed it was early dos was a bitch to get working and like most early projects dos was very buggy with it's file system.
Whenever people thinks they are better, i always think about this project.
I just want to add that in the newer versions of qemu, the -soundhw flag has been removed so you have to type this now.
qemu-system-x86_64 ${your.disk} -m 1G -audiodev ${backend},id=${yourid} -machine pcspk-audiodev=${yourid}
example: qemu-system-x86_64 Temple.disk -m 1G -audiodev pa,id=0 -machine pcspk-audiodev=0
you can use pa for pulseaudio or spice if you have a spice server configured. Hope this helps.
Terry like John Nash, was a genius with a catch. RIP terry, see you in heaven with the big guy one day.
Linus always envied Terry's genius.
When I was a kid in the ‘80s we used the LOGO programming game at school and as an adult I met the creator of the software as a Home theater installation technician in West Van, it was interesting to hear him talk about the way it was back then; he left the company (and California) because it was evident they were a bunch of communist apologists and he couldn’t operate a real business in that environment!
I mean I don’t see anybody using this for any extended period of time, but this is really cool!
Great video, Mental Outlaw. Thanks for sharing!
A few things that may help you next time, you can actually scroll with your mouse wheel, and you can add paths to Dir so you don't have to Cd everywhere. Dir( "C:/Kernel/Mem" ); for instance.
I think Terry was proof that Theurgy is real. I'm pretty sure anyone can get in touch with "god" (their soul) and find creative forms. Like divining somethimg Temple OS is very in line with the teachings of Iamblichus. its how humanity (Eyptian, Sumerian priests and Pythagoreans) slowly started to discover things like pitch, astronomy, fluid physics.
This is so impressive, there's no way I can do any of this even with enough knowledge
I used to watch his live streams sometimes, and he ran templeOS on QEMU.
Edit: I'm seeing screenshots of both. I guess I caught him at a time he decided to be a true linux power user.
You know you're a nerd when you can say : "I know my ways arround TempleOS"
"I know my ways around TempleOS" is his way of saying "I explored, and made a bunch of notes to not forget stuff."