The “Pec deck” machine is so popular and can easily be done wrong. Thank you for breaking down the upper back muscles and demonstrating proper form to engage the rear deltoids.
He’s definitely on juice, you’d be ignorant to say other wise, BUT , his advice on the rear delt actually is rock solid. Tried it and , juice or not, it works.
I was curious if i don’t have an incline bench like this, is there any way to get proper form with dumbbells or bands without the bench? I’d really love to apply at least the principles to that.
@@Amantino hi..I tried this several times but still felt my upper lats were more involved than my rear delts....so now I lay across a flat bench, keeping a round back and it now feels its just the rear delts doing the work...balance is awkward a few times but you soon learn the technique.
i just bend over and imagine im side throwing a stick behind me for my dog. what im saying is if you can learn how to throw a big stick behind you really far (which also involves a lot of core twist, but still a lot of rear delt), then you can get good activation of the fast twitch fibers of the rear/delt/traps/rhomboids. before i could never find the muscle connection. I do use a bit of traps and rhomboids, but after 4-5 sets everything behind my shoulder gets tired and grows. I will try keeping it arm to scapula instead of arm to spine next time and see how it feels, but I know its not a natural movement pattern (compared to using scapula too) and I will lose a lot of power.
@@MindPumpTV Not sure. I can only speak for myself. Is this an honest question or a chirp towards me? If it's an honest question, I'm willing to take the time to explain since I felt this was a very good demo. If it's a chirp I'll just move right along....
@@MindPumpTV hey! So using terms like ‘girly weights’ when really we just mean ‘lighter weights’ can be problematic for a few reasons. Men and boys who are just starting off or aren’t very strong will also be using lighter weights, and using ‘girly weights’ as a term for this implies that they are less masculine simply because they can’t lift as much. This can be a really big reason why guys don’t start lifting , cause they don’t want to be seen as ‘girly’. But also it’s not just about the actual word ‘girly’ itself, cause there isn’t anything wrong with being a girl. It’s about the way these lighter ‘girly’ weights are looked down on. If a girl is using a lighter weight but still pushing herself as much as a man using a heavier weight, then it shouldn’t matter and shouldn’t be made fun of. Weight is about ability and strength, and there is a lot of overlap in male and female capabilities. There will always be a bigger and stronger person, someone who can bench 100lbs will be less strong than someone who can bench 160lbs, which doesn’t at all mean than the 100lb bencher is weak. So gendering these terms just isn’t very accurate or helpful for anyone. I love your videos, and hope this is helpful for you in the future!
Loved the tutorial, could've done without the "girly weight" comment. I feel like there are enough strong women to warrant a discontinued use of these terms. Thanks.
@@Pagalchhagal this isn't about biology. This is about derogatory terms used to simply describe lighter weights. Terms like "girl pushups," "girly weight," and "you throw like a girl." Are derogatory and meant as such. Not everyone uses them intentionally that way, because they've become so commonplace... but just because something has been done, doesn't mean it should continue that way.
@@kevinchang2 While that's true, Train and Flourish didn't mention those at all. She's talking about the fact that people use terms like that as an insult. Whether it's intentional or not its derogatory.
I really like this doctor, my question is that massive hump in his back. No way thats good for us. Whats wrong with standing without the bench? As long as youre in a good stance to support the flex in the back... I don't understand this form at all.
Old question but anyways, they mention in the video you don't want the bigger back muscles taking over hence the relaxed hunched posture. Doing it standing is better than nothing but doing it on a bench will allow you to fully relax those back muscles and also not have to worry about keeping your core as tight so you can concentrate on the rear delts.
Okay and then imagine if you take that position and rotate everything and using the same movements… you have the reverse pec deck that they told you not to use?
yeah and girls starting points are typically much lower compared to mens, thus the term "girly weights" from a mans perspective. I'm sure many women see 7 plate loaded deadlifts or something similar and think "manly weight" just the same, rather that be a pro (truly remarkable) or a con (ego flexing).
Girly weight, really? I HATE when ppl referring low weights or strength to something negative and use the terms of “girly”. Stop using women in negative meaning.
Video was great until u inserted that girly weight comment….I’ve seen bulked up dudes using “LIGHTER WEIGHTS” for certain exercises at the gym. There is no such thing as “girly” weights nor “girl” push ups, they’re called modifications. UGH 🤬
the only complaint I have is that due to the presence of secular humoral rhythm, eliminating the scaular movement is not only not practical, it isn't really possible or realistic.
Light weight is girly weight, the majority of women , like 95% of them in the world, use light weights. Not a big deal, nothing to get upset over. Move on.
2:15 to skip to the actual guide
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I been training for 2 years and always doing it wrong.. this is the best excercise ...thank you guys
Thanks for tuning in!
I like that he truly knows the anatomy and articulates it well.
I am very critical of technical videos, been lifting 22 years, and am a literal professional athlete.... This is a really good breakdown. Respect.
I have never seen it done or explained that way before. This is great. Thanks for sharing guys.
WOW!! This Guy is awesome - You should do more videos with him.. I just learnt so much in 5 minutes its crazy. Thank You
The “Pec deck” machine is so popular and can easily be done wrong. Thank you for breaking down the upper back muscles and demonstrating proper form to engage the rear deltoids.
I can feel the beautiful Bromance between these two dudes..
Great instructions 👍🏼👍🏼
I am thankful for these videos. Now I know why I haven't been getting the results I want. & that 90% of the exercises I've been doing are worthless.
THANK YOU so much. I was really looking for a proper explanation on how to do rear delt flies and now I get the concept.
Thanks for this video, I've been doing this wrong for years.
do arm videos with him, his arms are huge
Do steroids
@Mark Richardson sadly most of those people we see with all that size are on the gear
He’s definitely on juice, you’d be ignorant to say other wise, BUT , his advice on the rear delt actually is rock solid. Tried it and , juice or not, it works.
In body building, WWE and NFL, steroids are perfectly acceptable.
this was phenomenally described
I was curious if i don’t have an incline bench like this, is there any way to get proper form with dumbbells or bands without the bench? I’d really love to apply at least the principles to that.
good question, I´d like to know aswell.
Great read delt isolation advice! And shows how to do it correctly!
i love mind pump
Best content out there. Thank you very much. I'm a little late to the party. But, i also listen to your podcast
props to the "Off-Road" coin-op in the background LOL!!!!!
Ironman Stewart knew how to isolate his rear delt. 👌👍
For the rear delts, what's a better exercise: this fly or the chest supported dumbbell row (from roughly the same position)?
Holy cow my form has been off on many exercises for a while now .....THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE VIDEOS
Nice work boyyyyyz
I'm grateful for this explanation of rear delt. fly
awesome - wish I'd seen this about 20 years ago. thanks!
Going to try this out on my next workout.
May I ask what bench that is?
Does it matter if the palms face in like in the video of if the dbs are going in same angle as length of arm? (palms facing away, toward back of me)
Awesome tips and explanations. I'm subscribing and following the Muscle Doc for sure.
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how many reps and sets should be done?
underrated channel
Thanks for the post, cause I been doing them wrong.
These are all great cues! Small muscles, so use smaller weights! Working the rear delts makes the best aesthetics for the shoulder.
thanks for the new rear felt techniques. very informative.
Great video guys. Always leaning!!
So is rounding the back crucial and dropping the shoulders forward rather than keeping the back straight??
Yes they mention in the video that doing it as shown keeps the bigger back muscles from taking over and lifting the weight.
@@Amantino hi..I tried this several times but still felt my upper lats were more involved than my rear delts....so now I lay across a flat bench, keeping a round back and it now feels its just the rear delts doing the work...balance is awkward a few times but you soon learn the technique.
Thank you
Great guy snd very knowledgeable why you do not intégrate to the team. ?
Nice one guys
Excellent tip!
Thanks
Excellent advise guys, love watching your videos.!!
You should show the cable variation of this.
So needed that video, thanks guys 👍
wooow ,, very useful informative and scientific video ,, keep up the great work bro ,, thump up and love , thanks alot
Thank you that was very helpful
“To lift this lil girly weight you got goin on here” like damn he’s just demonstrating lol
Such old school language calling a certain weight "girly"🤔Great info though!:)
I do this exercise but the whole time I thought it was a back workout. 😂
This is good tier advice!
is there anything better than a obscenely well-read beefcake?
3:20 The workout starts (superset with machine military press 3x12/15)
Love this! Learned something new! I would have focused on keeping shoulders back. Thank you!
You mean out not back
Loving this video with the exception of the 'girly weights' comment from Adam 🙄
Why, are u sexist
Yeah cringed at that part! Was great besides that!
@@poxyrocky1cry more.
2:20 you're welcome
Okay… ALL OF THIS IS GREAT, BUT!!!… the way he kinda flops himself on the bench is really really f*cking funny
Great shit
WHAT ABOUT BENTOVER CABLES
Wait do i go back or out 😅
EXCELLENT I LOVE IT TY💚
i just bend over and imagine im side throwing a stick behind me for my dog. what im saying is if you can learn how to throw a big stick behind you really far (which also involves a lot of core twist, but still a lot of rear delt), then you can get good activation of the fast twitch fibers of the rear/delt/traps/rhomboids.
before i could never find the muscle connection. I do use a bit of traps and rhomboids, but after 4-5 sets everything behind my shoulder gets tired and grows.
I will try keeping it arm to scapula instead of arm to spine next time and see how it feels, but I know its not a natural movement pattern (compared to using scapula too) and I will lose a lot of power.
This video is fucking awesome
I tried doing this on my bench but my legs are too short :(
great explanation but what's wrong with girlie weights?
Rebecca Kawamura why is that such a trigger for people ?
@@MindPumpTV Not sure. I can only speak for myself. Is this an honest question or a chirp towards me? If it's an honest question, I'm willing to take the time to explain since I felt this was a very good demo. If it's a chirp I'll just move right along....
@@MindPumpTV hey! So using terms like ‘girly weights’ when really we just mean ‘lighter weights’ can be problematic for a few reasons. Men and boys who are just starting off or aren’t very strong will also be using lighter weights, and using ‘girly weights’ as a term for this implies that they are less masculine simply because they can’t lift as much. This can be a really big reason why guys don’t start lifting , cause they don’t want to be seen as ‘girly’.
But also it’s not just about the actual word ‘girly’ itself, cause there isn’t anything wrong with being a girl. It’s about the way these lighter ‘girly’ weights are looked down on. If a girl is using a lighter weight but still pushing herself as much as a man using a heavier weight, then it shouldn’t matter and shouldn’t be made fun of.
Weight is about ability and strength, and there is a lot of overlap in male and female capabilities. There will always be a bigger and stronger person, someone who can bench 100lbs will be less strong than someone who can bench 160lbs, which doesn’t at all mean than the 100lb bencher is weak. So gendering these terms just isn’t very accurate or helpful for anyone.
I love your videos, and hope this is helpful for you in the future!
@@MindPumpTV PC culture and the fictional entertainment on TV deluding people into thinking that, all things being equal, women are as strong as men.
Nice
I'm still waiting for you to do it properly like the video title says.
Thank you !
I find if I lead with my pinkies It isolates them too
too much fluff at the beginning,
Organic truth
LMAO this guy said girly weight. good vid
Wait. “Out not back”. 1 minute later, “but also back”.
"Keep the shoulder blades dormant".
Give the video a thorough review please.
That’s humerus
He says “you’re going to want to fly back…. I tell people to fly out and not back.” Take a second look.
Sounds contradictory
So.... back or not?
I've watched it several times.
Loved the tutorial, could've done without the "girly weight" comment. I feel like there are enough strong women to warrant a discontinued use of these terms. Thanks.
Women are naturally weaker in strength which is feminine. Nothing wrong with that
@@Pagalchhagal this isn't about biology. This is about derogatory terms used to simply describe lighter weights. Terms like "girl pushups," "girly weight," and "you throw like a girl." Are derogatory and meant as such.
Not everyone uses them intentionally that way, because they've become so commonplace... but just because something has been done, doesn't mean it should continue that way.
@@coachansleytrainandflouris6265 Same goes with terms like "Manspreading", "mansplaining".
@@kevinchang2 While that's true, Train and Flourish didn't mention those at all. She's talking about the fact that people use terms like that as an insult. Whether it's intentional or not its derogatory.
Yeah, I heard that and was like of course, here we go again. I almost stopped watching.
I really like this doctor, my question is that massive hump in his back. No way thats good for us. Whats wrong with standing without the bench? As long as youre in a good stance to support the flex in the back... I don't understand this form at all.
Old question but anyways, they mention in the video you don't want the bigger back muscles taking over hence the relaxed hunched posture. Doing it standing is better than nothing but doing it on a bench will allow you to fully relax those back muscles and also not have to worry about keeping your core as tight so you can concentrate on the rear delts.
OK AND IF YOU DONT HAVE AN INCLINE BENCH
My bench keeps creeping forward doing it tho 😆
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I like this but my legs are too short to straddle the bench 🤣
I just train the Naruto Run for rear delts.
Okay and then imagine if you take that position and rotate everything and using the same movements… you have the reverse pec deck that they told you not to use?
Anyone watching 2022.
Better explained, than some of the current ones
“Girly weight” lol nice put down. I’m sure that made you feel better. We all have a starting point, my guy. At least we’re working on ourselves.
yeah and girls starting points are typically much lower compared to mens, thus the term "girly weights" from a mans perspective.
I'm sure many women see 7 plate loaded deadlifts or something similar and think "manly weight" just the same, rather that be a pro (truly remarkable) or a con (ego flexing).
Just Subbed the shit out of his channel
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Fly out👌🏻
What happed to the horse that left that old cart on the roof???
Saw a lot of upper back activation in that workout.. Just sayin
I like this form but tbh I’m a little embarrassed to be on the incline bench like that Infront of others.
I'm already embarrassed to go to the gym in general, so I don't really care if it looks like I'm presenting for other gym goers 😂
rear delt it's the most brutally hard muscle to build..
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Girly weight, really? I HATE when ppl referring low weights or strength to something negative and use the terms of “girly”. Stop using women in negative meaning.
Video was great until u inserted that girly weight comment….I’ve seen bulked up dudes using “LIGHTER WEIGHTS” for certain exercises at the gym. There is no such thing as “girly” weights nor “girl” push ups, they’re called modifications. UGH 🤬
He called it a girly weight because it weighs so little. Not because it’s an “easy weight”. Just accept the fact that girls aren’t as strong
@@stevenwilen BIG FACTS
i like his mustache tho
wow, dude in the green t shirt.. thats what i call arms
Never round your back
Dudes who call shit girly are the reason i work out
Lol
That’s sad af lol
"girly weights"?? No bueno dude bros.
the only complaint I have is that due to the presence of secular humoral rhythm, eliminating the scaular movement is not only not practical, it isn't really possible or realistic.
Less talkin more liftin
Did not feel a thing when yrying this yesterday. Also hurts the boobs lol
Bro his head is comically small. My head is too big. Good info though!
Girly weight?
Light weight is girly weight, the majority of women , like 95% of them in the world, use light weights. Not a big deal, nothing to get upset over. Move on.
@@kingpinsmith22exactly loool
Back when Adam had hair lol