HOW TO ORDER FORD TRANSIT What Specs make the Best Adventure VAN
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2022
- Matt goes over what to look for when buying a Ford Transit Van and which one best suites your needs!
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Thanks for the advice. It clarified my decisions.
Really helpful! Thanks. Love the common sense / simplicity approach
You're welcome! Thank you for watching.
Solid information! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video we get our ford transit van at the end of August after waiting a year for it looking forward to more informational videos I pan on doing as much as I can on my own. Thanks again
We’ve been waiting forever for our builds too. It’s worth the wait.
OUTSTANDING CONTENT!
Thanks!
This video was soooooo helpful! All the others I've found have been at the Transit vs Sprinter vs Promaster level. I'm past that decision point! Lol
Yes! Welcome to Team Transit
Thanks a lot, i heard what i needed to know. Subbed.
Awesome🙌
Great info, thanks.
Stoked you found us.
Thanks for this video! It helped a lot with our factory order. We're hoping to see it by the end of this year hopefully. We didn't order the upfitter switches, but got the Auxilary Fuse Panel. Apparently it will be useful in situations where we want to add things like LED bar or other accessories while vehicle is running. Do you have any experience with it? Only reason we didn't get the factory switches is because we don't like the placement of them. Is it difficult to add switches to the aux fuse panel?
Oh Man, Perfect timing. Calling several dealerships are on today's agenda...Thanks Matt !!
...dealerships IS on..... AND thanks for the downloadable Ford build spec sheet.
Glad it’s some good info.
@@mitchkaminski2512 how to download the sheet? Thank you.
Thanks for the video. Helps me feels good about my 2022 order. I went over the options a hundred times before finalizing the order. Current production date for my HR extended is early April, getting excited.
Glad it helped!
Regarding the swivel seat: are there any controls on the seat if not 10 way? Does a swivel seat have lumbar, reclining, forward-backward, and or thigh adjustments, all or nome or some of these? Thanks, Great video series!!! You get to the point,, all without being dramatically redundant, and without superfluous fluff. Finally, why not the RV package or motor home package, could you compare-contrast these?
I’ve reached out to Ford to see if they can outline some of that for me. The seating adjustments are basically the same. The factory swivel just doesn’t allow for heated seats.
The wiring will take me more research. I just don’t want to put bad info out there. I believe it’s mostly wiring that we wouldn’t use.
awesome i got everything on here but eco boost. honestly the boost isnt needed for me. i drive like an old man so im ok without it. tow weight is 5000 pounds and pay load is 3000 on the v6 so its perfect for what i need.
Hey great video I've been looking at tons of videos and I'm definitely interested and wana get a tranit mid roof passenger but I've seen a video of a mid roof passenger van with dual sliding door is that special order ? Thanks in advance
That would absolutely be a special order. Pretty much every van is a special order these days. 🤷♂️
Great video compared to others because you have strong opinions backed by facts.
Thanks!
I agree. So many people waffle and don't really speak definitively. I don't necessarily agree with every single thing he says but it's clear and easy to parse.
An alternative viewpoint: Ford Transit production is supply-chain limited and the number of electronics-based options plays a role in your van delivery time.
When we ordered our 2021 Transit, we added few options -- limited slip differential (because it's not 1972..), 10-way seats, windows all around, basic cruise control. $40K . Our van was delivered 3 months later, one of the first 2021's on the FordTransitUSAForum. Many others spent much or all of 2021 waiting for their more heavily-optioned vans to be delivered. The number of electronic-based options plays a role in your van delivery time..
That is a really great point! I hadn’t considered, but you’re definitely on to something.
Very close to my option list (waiting for Ford to built). I also added the "Auxiliary Fuel Port Extension Line" it gives easy access to the fuel tank for use with gas heater, this option also includes the larger 31 gallon fuel tank. "Intelligent Access with Push Button Start" is also nice, no need to use the key fob, just have it in your pocket to unlock and start the van.
I've seen a number of issues with heaters trying to use the AUX fuel port not working well though, it seems the consensus is not to use the AUX port if you want the most reliable heater for all situations. You can get the ext tank without this option.
@@samstellastephen Interesting, I understand it's a new option. So how are you suggesting connecting the heater to the gas tank?
@@effie2206 Prior to this option, the auxiliary fuel port was on top of the fuel pump and dropping the tank is the only way to access it to connect your fuel line to it.
@@effie2206 Search altitude and cavitation issue
Great ideas. Like Stephen mentioned best practice is to drop the tank and add a new 2mm fuel port. This is what we do to all our vans. But I did forget extended range tank. Great addition!
I Got lucky I ordered all that minus adaptive cruise. I also ordered dual alternators hopefully they will come in handy? Still waiting for van since November 2021 :( 🇨🇦
We’re waiting for a bunch of vans too. It’s a bummer the industry is so messed up.
You are likely familiar with the ecoflow kits. Can the van aux switches be used to connect the ecoflow for while-driving charging, rather than connect directly to the van alternator? thanks
How does one get heated seats and swivel? It looks like those two options are mutually exclusive. I have heated seats in several vehicles and it's become a must have for me.
How much more interior room does the extended provide versus the long body?
Very informative. For the Ford Transit template 148, what is the dimension of each square in the grid? I see "2 Ft" on the bottom right of the pattern, but it's not clear what that refers to.
It’s a scale indicator. That little bar represents 2ft.
Great content. Usually. how long it will take from ordering to deliver?
I think right now about 6 months.
My primary usage will be to replace my Jeep for over landing. I realize the limitations of the Transit capabilities off road compared to my Jeep will be an issue. In your opinion, is AWD going to be sufficient for off road use or should I plan on a 4x4 conversion. Assuming I do go with the conversion, is there any reason to order AWD. Thx
In my opinion the van is going to be limited more by its size and weight distribution more than traction. The AWD is pretty amazing. If you do go 4WD conversion, then definitely order the 2WD from factory.
Dual alternators as well as the dual battery options.
Matt, I ordered an extra 250amp Alternator on my 2022 350HD Transit for installing (2) 30amp DC to DC chargers. Thoughts?
Thanks for sharing the wisdom and experience.
I am also interested to hear what AVC thinks about the extra alternator
I'd say the main advantage of the secondary alternator is saving the wear on your primary. For me, I feel like the extra alternator is more for high power draw situations where you're using the engine as a generator (think contractor running equipment directly from the van). I'll admit I'm not the best resource for the details here as I am just unfamiliar with them. I try to creates simple builds that wouldn't require that much supplementary power. Hopefully someone else can chime in and maybe educate me too...
@@AVCRIG Thank you Matt for your thoughts. To give you a more complete picture, which I should have done in the first place, my plan is to have about 1000Amps of Lithium and to run two (2) DC to DC Chargers using my extra 250Amp Alternator. This, the way I see it, would be my primary means of charging the house batteries. Coupled with that would be 200 to 400 Watts of solar up top for trickle charging. Weight will not be an issue since my Payload is around 4500 pounds. My challenge now is figuring out what Ford did or did not give me in terms of connections for utilizing that spare alternator. That should be fun : ) They gave me a bag a various wiring harnesses with no instructions. Oh boy...
I debated on the dual alternator for my 2022 order, but most of the recommendations I read said the single 150amp was more than enough for most uses and the aftermarket alternators had some advantages for power access if ever needed in the future. The transit forums discuss them extensively.
Renogy has a 60A DC-DC charger that has a connection which, if it's at 12v, cuts the charge amperage in half. So with a switch on that signal, you can run at 30A and only flip the switch to tax your alternator for 60A when you really need the higher current. Renogy's 40A and 20A DC-DC chargers work the same way.
I ordered my Transit 7 months ago and I’m still waiting for it…dealer has no idea when it’ll get here but they did say previous customers’ orders took over a year. Crazy
Crazy times indeed. I've waited 12 months and I've waited 4 months. It's just he way it is for now. Two of my orders were just delayed... Oh well.
Hey where you guys ever able to find out about that heat exchanger. Im in the process of specing a build and ford offers front and rear ax and heat i was thinking of splicing into the water line for the heat which should be running to the rear of the van. If you have any new info in regards to this please share. Thanks
Aux heater prep package! It was about $65. Haven’t placed an order in the last year though.
Thank you I will look further into it.
I want the crew bench (or something similar) & dual swivels but realize I can only order one. Which would you rather install after market?
Aftermarket swivels are easy for the DIY’er to do themselves. An aftermarket 3 person bench gets pricier and tricky. There are a lot of other things about a crew that make it good/bad depending on your buildout. So there’s a lot to consider. We have a crew ordered so we can go over differences but I don’t think we’ll get it in 2022. 🙁
@@AVCRIG thanks for the advice, sounds like ford starts taking orders next month & then it's a year wait but I'm sure you'll hear from me again lol. Great videos!
Are those swivels something your shop could do/ballpark $'s for 2 inatalled?
Is the handbrake next to driver's seat eliminated starting year 2020 or a later year?
It depended on how they were ordered. Starting in 2020 push button was an option, but I didn’t see it on all the vans that came through the shop. Not sure if manual is still an option, but it’s been a couple years since I’ve seen one.
Hey Matt, if you ordered without getting the dual batteries can you add it afterwards? I want a way to connect my house batteries to the car batteries. What would my options be if I don’t have the dual batteries?
There is still a CCP it just may be a lower amperage circuit.
@@AVCRIG would I still be able to connect to the CCP is it’s only 60 amp max circuit? I’m trying to understand the need for a 175 amp circuit for the CCP vs the standard 60 amp CCP.
I checked the AVC order list and noticed they order a crew van. Can you add back seats later if ordering a cargo?
Yes, we add seats to cargo vans all the time. I do recommend this to be done by a legit shop, but it can be done at home if you know what you’re doing.
Great info here. I was sweating a bit before pressing play. I ordered my first Transit back in December just guessing what features I’d probably need. Sounds like I got everything on this list already, thankfully. I didn’t know the adventure package came with swivel seats though?
Any idea how long a van like this takes to arrive after ordering?
I agree with you. I don’t think swivel comes with adventure package. Mine didn’t come with swivel and looking at the 2022 ordering guide it doesn’t show swivel seats
Maybe it’s just something my dealer put together. Kind of nice to not have them packaged when possible.
I ordered my van 7 months ago and I’m still waiting. Dealer has no idea when it’ll get here but has said previous customers’ vans took over a year. :(
@@austinw638 Is yours a 2022? I’m guessing it would have to be at this point. Has yours gone into production yet? I’ve only gotten one email from Ford that they’re allocating all the parts for mine, and that I’d get follow up emails when it goes into production and then gets shipped out to my dealer. So far I’m going on 2 months without an update.
@@MotoMatt418 they had to change mine to a 2022 because of the timing now. And I got the same email in the beginning about allocating parts but it’s been like that for 7 months now. Nothing has gone into production. The dealership told me that’s how it’s been for a while.
I wouldn't want to add the hotwater heat exchanger 'cuz 1. Corrosion caused by the tap water is unavoidable unless you add an anode rod and replace it every few years, 2. Risk of leaking engine coolant.
Is there more driver leg room in the 2020 change?
No it’s pretty much the same. If you’re tall I recommend deleting the visor shelf. (check it out for yourself in person first though). I know a couple tall folks that prefer the extra headroom
for dual battery, can I use the 2nd battery as leisure battery?
If you can I’m not sure of how. It’s not a very big battery anyway.
What is the 148 long body, all I’ve seen is the 148 or the 148 extended
What is the soft bag behind you? Don't see it on your site!
Those are from Campo Vans in Santa Barbara. We love them, we just don't make them. www.campovans.com/collections/bags
If only you had a form with all the bits and pieces like you have on your website but for Europe. I hear there are some differences between the Transit Trail versions.
Hey Matt, did you used to work for Derek at CCV back in the day? Think you helped with my Promaster diesel build. I'm looking at selling the PM and getting into a Transit so this was helpful. Where are you located? Want to do a few things in the new rig if I can get one.
Yep that was me! We are in Berthoud, CO just south of Loveland. We’d love to help you with a transit build.
@@AVCRIG I left you a voicemail at the shop yesterday. If you could give mea call when your have a moment I sure would appreciate it. -Eric
@@ericsheill9152 I’ve been on vacation the last week. I’m back tomorrow and will be catching up.
Just a couple questions, should I order the heavy duty insulated factory floor in a cargo if I need to put at least two aftermarket seats in first thing? Thoughts on the "aux fuel line" option for adding gas heater? Saw possible mixed opinion. Looking at ordering the mid-May 2022 block. Thx!
If I ordered a transit without the dual battery is it the end of the world or could I add it afterwards?
It’s not the end of the world. You still have a 60a power pole, and I’m sure there is a kit for the 175 out there. You might wait a while to get it though.
Please do the same video walking through the Transit Trail walking through a real van
Do you have to get the 10 way adjustable seats to get heated seats ?
Yes you do unfortunately :/
Since I ordered swivels they wouldn’t let me get heated or leather seats. Odd.
AVC RIG I checked every single box on my order for my new van. It was before Covid hit so during my order they shut the factory for awhile. Then started up but only making cargo vans for Amazon. I thought I’d never get my van. Finally 16 months later my van was on a train on it’s way to me! We did the walk around and the check lists there was a big problem. This van had no AWD!! I was in shock, heartbroken and raging mad! The salesman that had taken our order form punched it all in left out the AWD! He no longer worked there due to layoffs during Covid. It was soo beautiful other than that one MAJOR problem. I took the van hoping I could find someone to make my van not just AWD but 4 wheel drive and that for me would be better than before for my needs. That’s how I absorbed that bs but anyway where can I get my 2020 dually extended van converted to 4 wheel drive? Do you work with any shops that can do this and how much? Thanks
The two shops that I know of are Quigley in PA, and Quad Van in UT. I think there one more shop offering 4x4 conversion in the states, but I can’t remember. I’d try the Transit USA forum. It’s a great resource.
I’m so sorry to hear about the trouble. I’d be crushed and livid all at the same time.
@@AVCRIG thanks I appreciate the info. I’m not too far from Utah. Safe travels!
@@vantastic_dreamer Quadvan is in Portland; called Northwest Quadvan.
Oh that sucks, but u will now end up with a much better true 4x4 but they are very expensive. Good luck.
Thoughts on Dual alternator?
I’ve never had the need for it with our power systems. I think it’s dependent on your power needs.
extended fuel tank FTW!
Sou said it! I can't believe I missed that in the video.
Hi Matt, are you receiving your van orders. I ordered mine in September 2021 and still haven't received it. I am conscience that the 2023 orders will be starting soon.
23 orders are happening now. I have been receiving my 22 orders but very slowly. I got 2/8 and don’t expect any more at this point.
@@AVCRIG Thanks Matt. They emailed me last week to say my van which was ordered in September 2022 would have to be re ordered in a 2023 and I would have to pay $8000.00 more. So I'm not happy. Especially as my daughter that lives in Westminster was going on a big trip in it in october after her wedding. I started asking why it was taking so long in January. Very poor service from the dealership, ford reps etc.
ordered September 2021. Sorry
Why are black wheels better for winter? Thx!
They aren’t better, just look better. I was meaning I’d spend money on a nice wheel set for summer and save the Steel wheel for winter where they will see more abuse and be dirtier. That is if you buy an upgraded wheel for your van at all.
The start-stop switch option is confusing and easy to misread because it's worded as a double negative. Maybe it's not an issue but it was something on my quote that caused a lot of communication difficulties.
I didn't know stop/start was an option. I (like most Americans) don't like them, but they do actually help with economy.
@@AVCRIG Of course start-stop helps with economy but if the house battery needs charging in the morning and I start the engine, I don't want the engine turning off when the engine block reaches temperature, I want the engine to continue running. The delete switch option is meant for the parcel delivery market not for the RV market.
@@garychristison5773 that’s a really good point.
How about converting a Ford E-Transit?
I would! Definitely want to get my hands on one. For now they dont offer the range I need for a camper
@@AVCRIG What kind of range are you looking for? The E-Transit is rated to travel more than 100 miles per charge and more than 50 percent of campers go about that far from home on a trip.
What is the price range on the van you discussed thanks
Sadly this is a bit of a moving target these days. At the time it was high 50’s. Now they are low to mid 60’s. I placed 6 orders this year. Crew were 64 and cargo 62
Hey thanks like your videos be watching more
How long is the extended version?
I’d check the ford site fir those details. I think it’s around 23’ and change though.
If you can put out a list of what your talking about would be better
Thank
We have examples of our orders on our website in the downloads section.
@@AVCRIG do you have a link?
I was unable to add privacy glass windows all around to my adv prep package order back in Nov. basically making it a window van with adv prep. Is this now available?
We have our order form up on the site to check the part #. You can always add aftermarket tint to the windows. This only applied to the Sliding door and rear doors. It is not available for the drivers area.
Hmmm... Future plans...
I am trading my Sienna in for a Transit as well!
@@BrokenandCoastal let’s get you both in here for bikes and builds!
@@AVCRIG e-mailing soon!
My take fellows:
-i heard some fellows they prefer the passenger finished type of van with panneling and ac in the back over the cargo type.
-slip differential is a must for me.
-eco boost is out for me; it is better for going South of the border, international travel
You can order the rear AC and additional heat into a crew if you like. The airbags in a passenger make it more of a challenge to build out… at least in my opinion. I’ve definitely built a few though.
Slip diff is good for sure!
What did you mean about heading south? 3.5 non turbo?
@@AVCRIGnon eco boost is vetter for traveling south of the the border and across the pond, international Travel, México etc.
@@rightright6582 Why is the NA better?
@@nateisright the no turbo version is better for International travel as one woukd have a less complex engine, air aspirated only, related to service...
@@AVCRIGSprinter passenger vans don’t have that or the sloping roof problems
What about dual tires
I don’t see the weights we build to needing a dually. If you went really heavy or were towing maybe?
My dealer is incompetent. I see them out in the market and the dealer says the order banks are not open.
Adventure prep and extended tank
I definitely missed the extended tank in this video, but absolutely recommend it.
Great video, Any thoughts on updating the video using the new Ford Transit Trail?
Have you outfitted one yet? what would you recommend ordering? Thanks
I’d love to do an update around ordering a trail. We have yet to see one in real life, so it’s hard to recommend things to folks without the knowledge to back them up. Ford has finally updated the online ordering guide, but I haven’t gotten into it to see any trail options.
It’s definitely on my radar though! Thanks for the question.
Giving up on the "Trail" Regarding choosing the Ford Transit cargo T250 and T-350 Duelly ( 148 wheel base) AWD in both.
Do you think the extra cost and Poorer gas millage are worth it for the excess payload capacity 3,500 VS 4,300 avg Payload? Have you come close to max with the 250 with your builds?
Thanks again
I will definitely be buying some of your building material
No rear AC and Heat?
No. Factory rear heat and AC aren’t great for campers. If you’re mostly driving then go for it. Otherwise do something that can run off your house system.
No mention of the dual alternators….
I’m be never worked with a dual alternator. The 175 amp service from the standard always seemed like enough. I might be missing something though
I built my van on the ford web site. Cannot order it that way. Must use dealer. The dealer added thousands for the same van (sent them a printed list of features and was willing to wait for it to be built exactly as I priced it on line). What a fantastic marketing decision by Ford corporate. No sale.
Depends on your tax and insurance I guess
Probably
4 way swivel and 10 way have the exact same adjustments, except you don't get lumbar adjustment on the passenger seat with the 4 way.
Example,
Moving the seat back and forth is considered 1 way for the 4 way seats, and 2 ways for the 10 way.
Adjusting the seat up and down is considered 1 way for the 4 way seats, and 2 ways for the 10 way.
Adjusting the front of the seat angle is considered 1 way for the 4 way seats, and 2 ways for the 10 way.
Reclining the back of the seat is considered 1 way for the 4 way seats, and 2 ways for the 10 way.
Lumbar adjustment is only on the driver seat for the 4 way swivel seat and not counted in the number of ways, and considered another 2 ways for the 10 way seats.
4 way swivel is manual adjustment, but you get swivels.
10 way is power adjustment, but you get heated seats.
10 way comes in leather or fabric depending on the van you get, cargo vs crew vs passenger.
There is no power, heated, swivel option.
You can add heat to the 4 way, or add swivels to the 10 way.
Pick what oem features are important to you.
Great break down! Thanks for the input.
I would prefer power driver's seat with vinyl but leather is good. And swivel passenger seat. Is there a reason why Ford won't do that? Mercedes has power seats and swivel. Don't know about Ram Promaster.
Wonder why you guys know more about Transit Specs than the Ford dealers?
I know, it's hard to find a good dealer who knows their stuff. One time I took the sales guy for a test drive since he had NEVER driven a Transit. I can't believe some of these sales people.
Research lol
Dealers are to sell you a car, all they do is pump up how awsome the car is minus what exactly it can do.
Me: Australian.
Ford Transit: Options
Single passenger seat.
That's not my options... that's all the options we get.
No AWD, no EcoBoost, no swivels, nothing but a dual or single passenger seat.
Plus I ordered it in May 2022... still no ETA.
Sigh
Can you ship US vehicles in? I’m not sure of how it works that direction.
Ford is taking order now for 2023 transit, increased MSRP by CAD $9000 just like that. Insane! I gave up ordering.
That sucks! I think Ford is going to have a lot of trouble coming up.
It just sucks a van is 65K now. Like damn....van life is for the well to do now.
It certainly has gone up. I’m looking forward to some delivery vans coming up used!