I am 59 years old, I just picked up my horn after not practicing for over 23 years. Using your ideas I could hit high C effortlessly. Why isn't this common knowledge. I so appreciate your video. With the new horizons that have been open, I can't to play again! Thank you much! I immediately shared this video with my brother. We played together for many years. I hope it inspires him too.
I’ve been a professional for years now playing lead trumpet all the way to tuba. After experiencing a bout of embouchure tension that I just couldn’t shake, this video gave me the single biggest jump in playing efficiency I’ve ever experienced. Thank you so much.
I have been struggling to play high notes for months. This was the best advice I've gotten so far. I'm now able to play The Last Post, a goal I've had since a child! Thank you so much!
I have struggled for years to understand tounge position and how if affects range. Tried this today and the concepts finally clicked. Thank you. My range just went up about 3-4 notes.
I wish I had seen this 49 years ago when I first started playing. This is brilliant. Might be the best video for trumpet playing ever created. Too bad most of us had to discover this the hard way over years of effort. Thanks for sharing.
The only bad thing is that I'm at work with my trumpet in the room and my boss is next door and I'm going to have to wait for him to leave so I can experiment with this concept lol.
I have sort of figured this out myself after seeing those x-rays of that one horn player. It was SUPER useful to hear someone talk clearly about this. Cheers! RUclips resources like this has taught me about as much as my teachers did, if not more.
This is possibly the greatest video of all time. I’m not even a trumpet player, I play horn and it works. It just works. I’ve been struggling with range for so long and didn’t realize it was this easy to fix. I can’t believe I just needed to rethink the focal point. You are a godsend
I am 53 and just started playing the trumpet three months ago. This is the most amazing insight into the instrument that I now love. I’m going to try it out today!
This is great! I’m always looking for new ways to teach tongue position to my students, and I think this will really help them understand the concept quickly! Thanks!!
Oh my god. I couldn't play well quality high notes before. However, after watching this video, I could play a smooth high C for 12 bars!Wow!Thank you very much!
I liked how you gave a profile and pointed to different areas for attention and focus. Most teachers continue to face my/student view. Now to practice.
wow, need to sit with this for a bit but already I think you may have changed my whole game! thank you for making the time to create this video and share this insight
That was the missing link, thank you very much. When I returned playing trumpet, I looked around on RUclips, found many helpful tips, to train my lips etc. I recognized that I learn whistling as a side effect. Me as a singer asked the principle trumpeter of the orchestra if he can whistle: yes he can, he told me that he can whistle every trumpet concert. So I have a task, bringing my throat in congruence, resonance to the tone pitch.
Wow! I'm impressed by your generosity by you sharing this tip with the rest of us. I'm a composer/piano player ex professional trumpet player. I think I can be quite expressive with the trumpet's voice but the range limit can put a brake on my ideas. It worked as soon as I tried it. Thank you.
Really interesting! With a clarinet or sax, you can position your tongue in such a way that the resonance in your mouth fully overcomes the instrument’s resonance. By this means you can do a glissando.
Thanks a lot ! Very, very useful ! I was loosing my time figuring out the tongue position without success. That and your last video on apperture : a gold mine for my problems with improving range. Thank you
Well Ryan, I just happened to catch your video before my practise session, and it really unlocked something for me. Obviously I knew about the importance of tongue position but somehow it never translated into my playing. After hearing your explanations and watching you demonstrate, something clicked. Thank you, and I look forward to your next videos.
Well presented. I will try to think of this next time I play. A lot of what you have is nicely broken down for people when never read the written notes of many famous method books. Sounds like you had access to the right teachers and have what you really need. A desire to excel and the guts to stay locked in the room and then get out and play whenever you can ! Good job .
This is brilliant. I’ve been coming to this conclusion, too, just recently. It’s not the “speed” of the air that tongue arching does at all. That never made sense. It is the size and resonance of the mouth chamber! That’s why some trumpeters have a distinctive sound (think Wayne). Their oral cavities have unique shapes! I look forward to more from you. Thanks!!
Hey Ryan! This video popped into my recommended feed today, absolutely brilliant! This is exactly what I do, and it was taught by Jay Saunders at UNT. Great job explaining it and making it super clear. I’m definitely going to share this with all of my students. Bravo!
Man, that makes me so happy to hear that, especially coming from you. So great to hang at ITG!!! Teach me more about Jay Saunders' approach to this . . . did he use the pitch of the half-whistles as well? Or focus more on the sensation of the "focal point" between the tongue and the top of the mouth?
It was so fun hanging at ITG! He would focus on sensation. Everything was about the feeling of it all. A bunch of us would figure out that it felt like a whistle like you describe. He would talk about how our tongues are able to handle tons of micro movements that can be harnessed to make playing in the upper register easier. I remember when it clicked for me, it was incredible. We all would also talk about the balance of air usage and aperture pucker to achieve a “lower” tongue position to gain headroom in range. Hope you are well!
Ryan!!! I went to ASU with you! Hope you remember me. I had to learn trombone a few years ago to pay the bills and I’m now getting back into trumpet. Been struggling with high notes while relearning trumpet. Just hit a double G within 30 min of watching this video!!!
Man, of course I remember you! I was always so inspired by your piccolo playing and the ease of your approach to the horn. Honestly, I still tell my students about you from time to time. I'm sooooo glad this felt helpful you in some way. Our community of trumpeters is definitely the better for having you back in it!!! Thanks so much for taking the time to write this . . . :-) @@DaveMel-p9i
Also, sorry if I'm spamming a bit (though as far as I'm aware YT's algorithm loves comments right?), I LOVE the concept that lips are not the cause. I'm really liking it as I practice. I try NOT to think about lips when I practice. One thing that has helped me a lot with this, correct me if I'm wrong, was putting one of those clip-tuners (guitar tuners) in the bell when practicing long tones. I don't think about the lips, when my lips start giving up and I start to go flat the tuner tells me, so I don't have to worry about that, and I just strengthen my breath or raise my tongue a little bit.
Hello Ryan, I have been playing since I was 12 and now 62. I have heard so much about this in the last 5 years or so how important the tongue placement is like whistling and the higher the whistle, focus on where the tongue is. Ive never had personal training except in school and learned to play more by ear then read music. My point is that I still struggle with this concept for some reason and like you said okd habits are hard to let go. The high C is very comfortable and only if i could nail this concept i know it would help so much. I will not stop trying and focus on everything. I just recently had major back surgery so I'm not allowed playing my horn or even my military bugle for taps services. So I also figured this would be a good time to learn and focus on this type of exercise and the placement of the tongue and even use a mouthpiece to just listen to the air of a lower note to the higher note which that I understand. Thank you again Sir for taking the time and I look forward to following your site to listen to your playing. I love watching the videos with the lotus trumpets and Adam Rapa as well. Thank you again for everything. 👍🏻🎺
@ryanstrumpet no problem Ryan. Busy schedules always have reasons to take time to respond. I recently had a major back surgery November 4th which has set me back some but won't cause me to stop. I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas and safe New Year Sir.
@@davidharrison3074 Merry Christmas to you as well, David! With the back surgery, the episodes on breath/breathing may be of particular help to you right now. Especially the mantra, "exhalation is relaxation." Best wishes to you and yours :-)
@ryanstrumpet thank you. I will look at that technique. I have used box breathing for many years which is a little tough right now. I'll never quit sir. Thank you again for what you do to help others including me. 👍🏻🎺
Thanks for the tips, I recently bought a trumpet and a Cornett and I am trying to learn how to play them by myself. Up to now I sound terrible but luckily I got myself a silent brass system so I am the only one hearing this tortures 😉 maybe (hopefully) I will improve my sound with your tips. 👍
Wow, super cool. Been playing amateur for twenty years in various bands. Always consider my comfortable playing register stopped at C above the stave. Gave this a go and pop immediately f# 4 octaves crazy
Hi Ryan. Fantastic eye-opener. We think so often of air velocity and volume contributing to air pressure but rarely do with think of the stuff going on "behind-the-lips". This idea of a focal point really interests me!
I've been playing the trumpet since I was 7 years old. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out how everything works. Sound is created by air being pushed from the lounges by the muscles squeezing around them and then forced through the lips and then the upper lip vibrates against the lower lip. More air (pressure) equals more volume except when ascending. The higher we play the more air pressure we need to exert to overcome the resistance created by the muscle contractions of the embouchure and the added mouthpiece pressure needed to create a seal around our embouchure. All of this is explain in Mr. Holifield's Practical Approach series of books for the Trumpet Player
Day 2 of saying "thank you". I'd like to write a bit more. I've heard Adam Rapa talk about it of course, but it never "clicked" somewhat. After watching this lesson was like "Yeah I think I get it", but I didn't want to get to excited. Lo and behold, I slurred up to a high C, not "loud" per se, but clear. NOW I practice "notes", not "low notes", not "high notes". Playing high has become just playing. Of course, the notes are a lot closer, so I have to be a lot more precise with tonguing. Speaking of which, do you have some tips to share about tonguing high notes without risking over/undershooting it?
"Playing high has become just playing." Yes! Love it! As for the tonguing, I've found the following reminders helpful in my practice and teaching: 1) Remember that the heart of accuracy is accurately imaging (hearing in your mind) the *precise* pitch that you want, imbued with an emotional character. 7/10 times, if I alternate playing and singing (falsetto!) the accuracy challenges will either improve a lot or resolve themselves. 2) Invite/allow the strike of the tongue to be a natural extension of deliberately maintaining the same Vowell-shape or mouth-chamber-shape or tongue-position (whichever of those phrases works best for your mind). In other words, if the tongue is causing problems, it's likely causing them because it is either moving too much (and disturbing the Vowell-shape), or it's striking in a place that is incongruent with the Vowell-shape that's working when you slur to it. Bottom line: 1) hear it. 2) sing with the same Vowell shape. Hope that helps!
Very interesting explanation, I will try...so I am an amateur playing French horn for about 50y now, and it is pain... Horn has a conical mouthpiece and there are the most common Eb, F and B horns (i play orchestral double and single B), but the beauty is French horn is not domicile like other horns, one day you are ready for a Carnegie Hall, next day you are trashed to depression. So I find my own way to be consistent: long notes mid range, slurred harmonics- slowly, and when it comes to High, I practice scale to one whole above I need, but newer on account of the tone, the empire that I built every day, (that was Wynton Marsalis explanation on trumpet playing), - keep in mind, you shape an air and air is all you have.
There are corollaries to singing here that to my knowledge have yet been 'mapped.' I wish singers understood the degree to which the diameter allowed in the vocal tract plays in how the vibrators react. It also underscores how it is possible that trumpet player's top end can be greatly disrupted when a trumpet player loses weight (the tongue, losing fat, actually changes girth), just as singers often do. The very small change in the air pathway has huge effects. Very good video. I will play for my singing students. (I used to be a trombonist and often teach with a mouthpiece nearby to give a clear mental picture what the unseen vocal folds are doing)
thank you so much ryan. you had helped me a lot. you introduced the idea of "passage" and in a way is pretty similar to what happens to singers (and we can also experiment it) when they go up in the register. there are a couple times where you have to do a small modification to keep going up with fluidity and no tension. well, its reasonable that the same thing happens when playing trumpet. great discovery!!
When you form your lips to produce the above "G" Just touch your tongue, very slightly, to your bottom lip, the tip, which throws the tip of lower lip up towards the tip of upper lip, using much power. The tone is produced to the inside of upper mouthplece at an angle of 45 degrees, instead of blowing straight Into the throat of the mouthpiece...
Hello, would this technique work for marching band trumpet players? Because we barely have time to think about posture while walking around and doing movements with our body. And also, what size of mouthpiece do you mainly use? Thank you.
Yes. With an understanding that the placement itself is as much about resonance as it is about airstream.... wish I'd understood it a *long* time ago! :-)
Thanks, Ryan. Will definitely work on this. I picked up my horn again, about 5 years ago, after 60+ Years. Not doing too badly. I'm starting to increase my practice time and things are sounding a bit better. I've been able to hit high D (with some effort!), and have occasionally hit an Eb and high E. But I don't own them yet. And I'm expending way too much physical energy! Hopefully your method of controlling the airflow in the chamber behind the lips will help.
I’m with you. I’m 67 and picked up my horn a year ago when my son asked me to play for his funeral. Ryan has just proven that my resonance chamber is so non standard that this doesn’t work for me. I expend way too much energy so can only practice for maybe 25 min but can get a solid C D and E.
Interesting. There's a reason I've stuck to low brass for over 20 years. My range on trumpet is absolute garbage. The only upper brass instrument I've ever been successful in playing has been horn, the back pressure is a help. I'll be getting the trumpet out tomorrow to try this.
I've noticed a few common stumbling blocks . . . maybe one of these might help unlock it for you? The first is that my students tend to place the tongue so high that the air actually gets choked off. We want the "focal point" (the narrowest passage for the air; between the top of the Tongue and the roof of the mouth) to be as open as possible, while still sounding the half-whistle. The second is that it can take a good bit of practice to resist the urge to blow harder as we ascend. "Always blow the same." (Cichowicz) Along these lines, even the tiniest change in the airstream will negate the efficacy of the Tongue level. The third is blowing without singing. There's something crucial about clearly audiating or hearing in our imagination *exactly* what pitch we want to play. The fourth is also always a possibility: if we haven't learned how to really play the center of the horn, the the tongue level won't do much to help. When you find the center, the horn "lights up," and produces more sound than we might be used to hearing, with less effort. Episode 2 goes into this in more detail. Hope that helps! Best of luck to you on your trumpet journey!
Great video with really valuable content! Shifting the focal point also means a change in tongue position, doesn't it? The tongue arches to a maximum in the highest notes and lies pretty much flat in the low notes.
Thanks Ryan for this video. Now that it's been a year since you posted it - are you still feeling that this is the right approach for you and your students? Would you have any adjustments or changes to speak about now? Best of the season!
Thanks, Bryan. Wow . . . love this question. This remains helpful to me, yes. When things feel inefficient, some half-whistle practice often brings things right back into alignment for me. It's been interesting with students . . . if they can recreate the 2nd "focal point" half-whistle, then, yes, it's very helpful. But creating that sound seems a challenge for several. For those who the 2nd half-whistle feels too unfamiliar to reproduce reliably, I teach them the basic principle of moving the point of resistance inside the mouth towards the teeth to ascend (assuming adequate embouchure development/tone center), and simply have them practice moving a "hiss" forward (without any particular pitch). But if they can get the half-whistles, then, yes, it helps them. Hope that answers your question (at least in part!). All my best! Ryan
Ryan, very helpful. Could you just expand a bit more please on what you mean by “as we go out to the centre of the instrument”, Basic Principle #1. Thanks, Peter
Thank you, Peter! That is a tough one to articulate . . . I try to explain it more in episode 2; and again in the episode on aperture. . . . But your question has my wheels turning! I will try to think more about how to address that more clearly!
Ryan, ok and thanks for getting back to me. I’ll have a good look at “ …. try to explain it more in episode 2; and again in the episode on aperture. . . “. Keep these videos coming to us please. Peter
This video is awesome! Thanks for the awesome new paradigm of range on the trumpet. Unfortunately watching the video makes me feel like I have cataracts or something....
Wow It's very interesting, thanks a lot to share this concept. I never heard this before. I'm a comeback player and at this moment I'm in big trouble to get back an acceptable range. I'm very interested in getting more information to work on the 3 focus points. Should it be possible for you to help ? Thx
Thanks a lot, since I discovered this technique, I know understand how these professional trumpet player that I heard managed to catch sometimes these super high notes without any difficulty clearly and moreover playing piano, I didn't get how this was possible to make that and make it look so easy. Now I get it ! 1 question though, do you think that even with this technique, it requires a certain level of let's say "muscle" in the lips in order to make so high or is it really 90% made by the tongue position in the mouth ?
Love this question. The gentleman I study with right now, Newell Dayley, is 84, and no longer plays. In his words, he doesn't have the muscle to play anymore. But, he can pick up a horn and play a high G without any difficulty, because he knows exactly how to setup inside his mouth. To my mind, the question of muscle is more about endurance than range. Assuming a healthy, simple setup of the lips, the resonance of the mouth is extremely important, even key.
@@ryanstrumpet Thanks a lot for your reply, this helps a lot. I played a lot when I was young but stopped playing for 25 years, now it's been 4 months since I started to play again because I have a project with a band, so, in terms of muscle, I'm in the building process ! Regarding the high notes, since I saw your video, I am trying everyday to find what fits the best for me. I found out that there are different possibilities in how one can position his lips, tongue and even the teeth to make it work. And it happens sometimes that when I find the correct relative position of all this, yes, the sound goes out loud and clear.....and clean. So, now it's just a matter of practicing everyday, identify more precisely what works for me, feel it so that this can be "printed" in my body and becomes automatic.
@@sylvaincalmels1284 Check out episodes 6, 7, 8, and 9 for embouchure basics and "chop builders." If that's the phase you're in, they will likely be helpful!
Good evening sir, I am asked to learn the trumpet for a major event on August and I need help. Please can you teach me on how to be good in a Month?Thank you I'm very grateful
I am 59 years old, I just picked up my horn after not practicing for over 23 years. Using your ideas I could hit high C effortlessly. Why isn't this common knowledge. I so appreciate your video. With the new horizons that have been open, I can't to play again! Thank you much!
I immediately shared this video with my brother. We played together for many years. I hope it inspires him too.
I love this! Thank you so much for sharing this experience with me. Here's to keeping the joy alive!
This is the most brilliant and needed fix for easier playing that I have heard in the last 40 years of my playing. Thank you!!!
Glad to hear that it's helping your playing! Thanks for the kind note 🙂
Fix ????? Forget it.
I’ve been a professional for years now playing lead trumpet all the way to tuba. After experiencing a bout of embouchure tension that I just couldn’t shake, this video gave me the single biggest jump in playing efficiency I’ve ever experienced. Thank you so much.
I have been struggling to play high notes for months. This was the best advice I've gotten so far. I'm now able to play The Last Post, a goal I've had since a child! Thank you so much!
So glad it's helping! Thank you, @sarayyoung6834!
I have struggled for years to understand tounge position and how if affects range. Tried this today and the concepts finally clicked. Thank you. My range just went up about 3-4 notes.
I wish this video existed in the 90's, haha. I can effortlessly and consistently play an E above the staff in my 40's now, wow!
So glad that it's feeling helpful to you! All my best on your trumpet adventures!
That's interesting. I haven't heard it described in quite that way before. I know what I'm doing this afternoon!
I wish I had seen this 49 years ago when I first started playing. This is brilliant. Might be the best video for trumpet playing ever created. Too bad most of us had to discover this the hard way over years of effort. Thanks for sharing.
The only bad thing is that I'm at work with my trumpet in the room and my boss is next door and I'm going to have to wait for him to leave so I can experiment with this concept lol.
@@williamstadelmeyer3563 lol
I have sort of figured this out myself after seeing those x-rays of that one horn player. It was SUPER useful to hear someone talk clearly about this. Cheers!
RUclips resources like this has taught me about as much as my teachers did, if not more.
Where can you find these x rays
Oh man! I don't want to get left behind, so I'm getting right on these exercises now! Thank you!
This is possibly the greatest video of all time. I’m not even a trumpet player, I play horn and it works. It just works. I’ve been struggling with range for so long and didn’t realize it was this easy to fix. I can’t believe I just needed to rethink the focal point. You are a godsend
SAME I HOPE IT WORKS!!
I am 53 and just started playing the trumpet three months ago. This is the most amazing insight into the instrument that I now love. I’m going to try it out today!
This is great! I’m always looking for new ways to teach tongue position to my students, and I think this will really help them understand the concept quickly! Thanks!!
The best video by a mile, that explains higher notes. Thanks for sharing!!!
I believe that I've instinctively been doing that....Now I plan to be more intentional! Thank you
Nice job describing how sounds happen on the trumpet -such a difficult concept for players to understand.
Oh my god. I couldn't play well quality high notes before. However, after watching this video, I could play a smooth high C for 12 bars!Wow!Thank you very much!
Just trying to improve my high notes specifically increased my range by 4 whole steps in 2 months and I’ll take it
I liked how you gave a profile and pointed to different areas for attention and focus. Most teachers continue to face my/student view. Now to practice.
Thanks for the valuable information!!!
What is so nice is that you maintain a beautiful open tone as you reach higher.
Hey man, great playing with you on Kobie Watkins' gig. I just upgraded my C trumpet to a Schilke CX-5. I can't wait to try this soon.
Thanks, Sean! Lemme know how it works out!
wow, need to sit with this for a bit but already I think you may have changed my whole game!
thank you for making the time to create this video and share this insight
That was the missing link, thank you very much. When I returned playing trumpet, I looked around on RUclips, found many helpful tips, to train my lips etc. I recognized that I learn whistling as a side effect. Me as a singer asked the principle trumpeter of the orchestra if he can whistle: yes he can, he told me that he can whistle every trumpet concert.
So I have a task, bringing my throat in congruence, resonance to the tone pitch.
Thank you so much Sensay 🙏🙏🙏
The vocal points are so essential!
Wow! I'm impressed by your generosity by you sharing this tip with the rest of us. I'm a composer/piano player ex professional trumpet player. I think I can be quite expressive with the trumpet's voice but the range limit can put a brake on my ideas. It worked as soon as I tried it. Thank you.
Really interesting! With a clarinet or sax, you can position your tongue in such a way that the resonance in your mouth fully overcomes the instrument’s resonance. By this means you can do a glissando.
Well let's see if it works! About to give this a go!
Thanks a lot ! Very, very useful ! I was loosing my time figuring out the tongue position without success. That and your last video on apperture : a gold mine for my problems with improving range. Thank you
really good video brother, thanks for sharing
As an accordion player, other instruments fascinate me, especially Brass. I love all the brass family and this guy really knows what he is doing.
Thank you so much. Much more range and less effort. This class changed my way of thinking about the high register. Amazing
This is solid gold. Thanks so much for sharing this!
You save my life bro.
Thks!
Well Ryan, I just happened to catch your video before my practise session, and it really unlocked something for me. Obviously I knew about the importance of tongue position but somehow it never translated into my playing. After hearing your explanations and watching you demonstrate, something clicked. Thank you, and I look forward to your next videos.
Excelente enseñanza maestro!!! Muchas gracias saludos desde Argentina ❤
Gracias, Guido! Saludos también desde Utah!
Well presented. I will try to think of this next time I play. A lot of what you have is nicely broken down for people when never read the written notes of many famous method books. Sounds like you had access to the right teachers and have what you really need. A desire to excel and the guts to stay locked in the room and then get out and play whenever you can ! Good job .
Before viewing this video I could hit a C# if I was lucky. Seconds after viewing the video I hit High E! This is extrememly good advice!
This is brilliant. I’ve been coming to this conclusion, too, just recently. It’s not the “speed” of the air that tongue arching does at all. That never made sense. It is the size and resonance of the mouth chamber! That’s why some trumpeters have a distinctive sound (think Wayne). Their oral cavities have unique shapes! I look forward to more from you. Thanks!!
Hey Ryan! This video popped into my recommended feed today, absolutely brilliant! This is exactly what I do, and it was taught by Jay Saunders at UNT. Great job explaining it and making it super clear. I’m definitely going to share this with all of my students. Bravo!
Man, that makes me so happy to hear that, especially coming from you. So great to hang at ITG!!! Teach me more about Jay Saunders' approach to this . . . did he use the pitch of the half-whistles as well? Or focus more on the sensation of the "focal point" between the tongue and the top of the mouth?
It was so fun hanging at ITG!
He would focus on sensation. Everything was about the feeling of it all. A bunch of us would figure out that it felt like a whistle like you describe. He would talk about how our tongues are able to handle tons of micro movements that can be harnessed to make playing in the upper register easier. I remember when it clicked for me, it was incredible. We all would also talk about the balance of air usage and aperture pucker to achieve a “lower” tongue position to gain headroom in range. Hope you are well!
Ryan!!! I went to ASU with you! Hope you remember me. I had to learn trombone a few years ago to pay the bills and I’m now getting back into trumpet. Been struggling with high notes while relearning trumpet. Just hit a double G within 30 min of watching this video!!!
This is David Melancon btw
Man, of course I remember you! I was always so inspired by your piccolo playing and the ease of your approach to the horn. Honestly, I still tell my students about you from time to time. I'm sooooo glad this felt helpful you in some way. Our community of trumpeters is definitely the better for having you back in it!!! Thanks so much for taking the time to write this . . . :-)
@@DaveMel-p9i
Now, that's why I pay the internet. Thank you for posting this great advice!
This helps me on getting my range back after getting my braces off.
I echo all the good comments - amazing! Mind blowing! It works. Unlocks the puzzle. I love the half whistle. Thank you so much!
So glad it feels helpful! Best of luck to you in your trumpet adventures!
You’ve changed (in better) my sound! thanks!
So glad it felt helpful!
I love this tutorial mate, I wish I can learn it or understand how u do those shifts I'd be grateful.
it was really fun working with you
-robby
Great lesson. Very useful 👍
This is incredible content. Amazing concept. Thank you so much!
You're welcome, Erik :-) Thank you for hanging out with it --
Also, sorry if I'm spamming a bit (though as far as I'm aware YT's algorithm loves comments right?), I LOVE the concept that lips are not the cause. I'm really liking it as I practice. I try NOT to think about lips when I practice. One thing that has helped me a lot with this, correct me if I'm wrong, was putting one of those clip-tuners (guitar tuners) in the bell when practicing long tones. I don't think about the lips, when my lips start giving up and I start to go flat the tuner tells me, so I don't have to worry about that, and I just strengthen my breath or raise my tongue a little bit.
It really is such an important principle.... So glad it feels helpful!
Fascinating.
Hello Ryan, I have been playing since I was 12 and now 62. I have heard so much about this in the last 5 years or so how important the tongue placement is like whistling and the higher the whistle, focus on where the tongue is. Ive never had personal training except in school and learned to play more by ear then read music.
My point is that I still struggle with this concept for some reason and like you said okd habits are hard to let go. The high C is very comfortable and only if i could nail this concept i know it would help so much. I will not stop trying and focus on everything. I just recently had major back surgery so I'm not allowed playing my horn or even my military bugle for taps services. So I also figured this would be a good time to learn and focus on this type of exercise and the placement of the tongue and even use a mouthpiece to just listen to the air of a lower note to the higher note which that I understand. Thank you again Sir for taking the time and I look forward to following your site to listen to your playing. I love watching the videos with the lotus trumpets and Adam Rapa as well.
Thank you again for everything. 👍🏻🎺
Thank you for these kind words, David! I'm sorry I missed this note until now. Sending my best to you on your trumpet journey!
@ryanstrumpet no problem Ryan.
Busy schedules always have reasons to take time to respond.
I recently had a major back surgery November 4th which has set me back some but won't cause me to stop.
I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas and safe New Year Sir.
@@davidharrison3074 Merry Christmas to you as well, David! With the back surgery, the episodes on breath/breathing may be of particular help to you right now. Especially the mantra, "exhalation is relaxation." Best wishes to you and yours :-)
@ryanstrumpet thank you. I will look at that technique. I have used box breathing for many years which is a little tough right now. I'll never quit sir. Thank you again for what you do to help others including me. 👍🏻🎺
This was great wow
Thanks for the tips, I recently bought a trumpet and a Cornett and I am trying to learn how to play them by myself. Up to now I sound terrible but luckily I got myself a silent brass system so I am the only one hearing this tortures 😉 maybe (hopefully) I will improve my sound with your tips. 👍
Very nice approach! Sweet sound! ❤
God this is so brilliant
Wow, super cool. Been playing amateur for twenty years in various bands. Always consider my comfortable playing register stopped at C above the stave. Gave this a go and pop immediately f# 4 octaves crazy
Love it!!! So glad it feels helpful!
Hi Ryan. Fantastic eye-opener. We think so often of air velocity and volume contributing to air pressure but rarely do with think of the stuff going on "behind-the-lips". This idea of a focal point really interests me!
Cool. Good stuff. Thanks!
I've been playing the trumpet since I was 7 years old. I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out how everything works. Sound is created by air being pushed from the lounges by the muscles squeezing around them and then forced through the lips and then the upper lip vibrates against the lower lip. More air (pressure) equals more volume except when ascending. The higher we play the more air pressure we need to exert to overcome the resistance created by the muscle contractions of the embouchure and the added mouthpiece pressure needed to create a seal around our embouchure. All of this is explain in Mr. Holifield's Practical Approach series of books for the Trumpet Player
Sounds like you've found what works for you. Wonderful!
Wow thank you so much for that info !!! 😊
Very nice🎉
Day 2 of saying "thank you".
I'd like to write a bit more. I've heard Adam Rapa talk about it of course, but it never "clicked" somewhat. After watching this lesson was like "Yeah I think I get it", but I didn't want to get to excited. Lo and behold, I slurred up to a high C, not "loud" per se, but clear. NOW I practice "notes", not "low notes", not "high notes". Playing high has become just playing.
Of course, the notes are a lot closer, so I have to be a lot more precise with tonguing. Speaking of which, do you have some tips to share about tonguing high notes without risking over/undershooting it?
"Playing high has become just playing." Yes! Love it!
As for the tonguing, I've found the following reminders helpful in my practice and teaching: 1) Remember that the heart of accuracy is accurately imaging (hearing in your mind) the *precise* pitch that you want, imbued with an emotional character. 7/10 times, if I alternate playing and singing (falsetto!) the accuracy challenges will either improve a lot or resolve themselves. 2) Invite/allow the strike of the tongue to be a natural extension of deliberately maintaining the same Vowell-shape or mouth-chamber-shape or tongue-position (whichever of those phrases works best for your mind). In other words, if the tongue is causing problems, it's likely causing them because it is either moving too much (and disturbing the Vowell-shape), or it's striking in a place that is incongruent with the Vowell-shape that's working when you slur to it. Bottom line: 1) hear it. 2) sing with the same Vowell shape.
Hope that helps!
@@ryanstrumpet thanks a lot! I'll keep that in mind 🤗
Very interesting explanation, I will try...so I am an amateur playing French horn for about 50y now, and it is pain... Horn has a conical mouthpiece and there are the most common Eb, F and B horns (i play orchestral double and single B), but the beauty is French horn is not domicile like other horns, one day you are ready for a Carnegie Hall, next day you are trashed to depression. So I find my own way to be consistent: long notes mid range, slurred harmonics- slowly, and when it comes to High, I practice scale to one whole above I need, but newer on account of the tone, the empire that I built every day, (that was Wynton Marsalis explanation on trumpet playing), - keep in mind, you shape an air and air is all you have.
Wow this is so Helpful
Very impressive. Thanks. But how do you move the focal spot forward? I'm stuck in the middle register.
Very good video 👍🏼
helpful. thanks
There are corollaries to singing here that to my knowledge have yet been 'mapped.' I wish singers understood the degree to which the diameter allowed in the vocal tract plays in how the vibrators react.
It also underscores how it is possible that trumpet player's top end can be greatly disrupted when a trumpet player loses weight (the tongue, losing fat, actually changes girth), just as singers often do. The very small change in the air pathway has huge effects.
Very good video. I will play for my singing students. (I used to be a trombonist and often teach with a mouthpiece nearby to give a clear mental picture what the unseen vocal folds are doing)
Very Helpful!
That was a great concept greatly explained, gonna give this a try
thank you so much ryan. you had helped me a lot. you introduced the idea of "passage" and in a way is pretty similar to what happens to singers (and we can also experiment it) when they go up in the register. there are a couple times where you have to do a small modification to keep going up with fluidity and no tension. well, its reasonable that the same thing happens when playing trumpet. great discovery!!
Awesome!
THANKS! I wish I had known this 65 years ago! Too late to help me now, but that's not your fault. Masterclass stuff.
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throat of the mouthpiece...
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Hello, would this technique work for marching band trumpet players? Because we barely have time to think about posture while walking around and doing movements with our body. And also, what size of mouthpiece do you mainly use? Thank you.
OMG - thank you so much 🎺🇬🇧
Thanks for this video! I’m going to try this concept. Is it actually another way of describing tongue placement?
Yes. With an understanding that the placement itself is as much about resonance as it is about airstream.... wish I'd understood it a *long* time ago! :-)
Great!!!!!
Thanks, Ryan. Will definitely work on this.
I picked up my horn again, about 5 years ago, after 60+ Years. Not doing too badly. I'm starting to increase my practice time and things are sounding a bit better. I've been able to hit high D (with some effort!), and have occasionally hit an Eb and high E. But I don't own them yet. And I'm expending way too much physical energy! Hopefully your method of controlling the airflow in the chamber behind the lips will help.
I’m with you. I’m 67 and picked up my horn a year ago when my son asked me to play for his funeral. Ryan has just proven that my resonance chamber is so non standard that this doesn’t work for me. I expend way too much energy so can only practice for maybe 25 min but can get a solid C D and E.
Interesting.
There's a reason I've stuck to low brass for over 20 years. My range on trumpet is absolute garbage. The only upper brass instrument I've ever been successful in playing has been horn, the back pressure is a help.
I'll be getting the trumpet out tomorrow to try this.
i love it. So insightful and helpful!! thank you ryan.
thank you
Thanks Ryan! I'll share this with my kids at Merit. Glad you popped up on my feed :)
Hey David! Thanks for that! Episodes 2 and 3 may be the biggest help to them. Got to find center before range. So good to hear from you!
Great video Ryan. I understand the concept , but some how when I try to apply to my trumpet, I get messed up
I've noticed a few common stumbling blocks . . . maybe one of these might help unlock it for you?
The first is that my students tend to place the tongue so high that the air actually gets choked off. We want the "focal point" (the narrowest passage for the air; between the top of the Tongue and the roof of the mouth) to be as open as possible, while still sounding the half-whistle.
The second is that it can take a good bit of practice to resist the urge to blow harder as we ascend. "Always blow the same." (Cichowicz) Along these lines, even the tiniest change in the airstream will negate the efficacy of the Tongue level.
The third is blowing without singing. There's something crucial about clearly audiating or hearing in our imagination *exactly* what pitch we want to play.
The fourth is also always a possibility: if we haven't learned how to really play the center of the horn, the the tongue level won't do much to help. When you find the center, the horn "lights up," and produces more sound than we might be used to hearing, with less effort. Episode 2 goes into this in more detail.
Hope that helps! Best of luck to you on your trumpet journey!
Love it
I want to learn this method..Terribly exited🎺🎺🐝🐝🐝How can I learn from you??
Great video, Ryan! That's very new information for me, too. I can't wait to try it out. Your new Lotus sounds really good 🙂
I'm loving it :-)
that isn't a suped-up Olds studio?? huh@@ryanstrumpet
Dynamite video! I wish I would have learned this 30 years ago too. Thanks for sharing.
Great video with really valuable content! Shifting the focal point also means a change in tongue position, doesn't it? The tongue arches to a maximum in the highest notes and lies pretty much flat in the low notes.
Thanks Ryan for this video. Now that it's been a year since you posted it - are you still feeling that this is the right approach for you and your students? Would you have any adjustments or changes to speak about now? Best of the season!
Thanks, Bryan.
Wow . . . love this question.
This remains helpful to me, yes. When things feel inefficient, some half-whistle practice often brings things right back into alignment for me.
It's been interesting with students . . . if they can recreate the 2nd "focal point" half-whistle, then, yes, it's very helpful. But creating that sound seems a challenge for several.
For those who the 2nd half-whistle feels too unfamiliar to reproduce reliably, I teach them the basic principle of moving the point of resistance inside the mouth towards the teeth to ascend (assuming adequate embouchure development/tone center), and simply have them practice moving a "hiss" forward (without any particular pitch). But if they can get the half-whistles, then, yes, it helps them.
Hope that answers your question (at least in part!).
All my best!
Ryan
Ryan, very helpful. Could you just expand a bit more please on what you mean by “as we go out to the centre of the instrument”, Basic Principle #1.
Thanks, Peter
Thank you, Peter! That is a tough one to articulate . . . I try to explain it more in episode 2; and again in the episode on aperture. . . . But your question has my wheels turning! I will try to think more about how to address that more clearly!
Ryan, ok and thanks for getting back to me. I’ll have a good look at “ …. try to explain it more in episode 2; and again in the episode on aperture. . . “. Keep these videos coming to us please. Peter
??any chance you could post the "Helpful Exercises". Love your explenations.
I'm working on creating a resource for that . . . . but it's a ways away (got some other projects in the frontrunner right now . . .. )
Thank you for your speedy reply. We love how you explain your concepts!
not many trumpet players' faces don't change the color when they play that high. Will definitely try!
This video is awesome! Thanks for the awesome new paradigm of range on the trumpet. Unfortunately watching the video makes me feel like I have cataracts or something....
Wow It's very interesting, thanks a lot to share this concept. I never heard this before. I'm a comeback player and at this moment I'm in big trouble to get back an acceptable range. I'm very interested in getting more information to work on the 3 focus points. Should it be possible for you to help ? Thx
Hi Eric --
I'm not really in a position to take on more students right now, but maybe check in with me over the summer again!
Thanks a lot, since I discovered this technique, I know understand how these professional trumpet player that I heard managed to catch sometimes these super high notes without any difficulty clearly and moreover playing piano, I didn't get how this was possible to make that and make it look so easy. Now I get it ! 1 question though, do you think that even with this technique, it requires a certain level of let's say "muscle" in the lips in order to make so high or is it really 90% made by the tongue position in the mouth ?
Love this question. The gentleman I study with right now, Newell Dayley, is 84, and no longer plays. In his words, he doesn't have the muscle to play anymore. But, he can pick up a horn and play a high G without any difficulty, because he knows exactly how to setup inside his mouth. To my mind, the question of muscle is more about endurance than range. Assuming a healthy, simple setup of the lips, the resonance of the mouth is extremely important, even key.
@@ryanstrumpet Thanks a lot for your reply, this helps a lot. I played a lot when I was young but stopped playing for 25 years, now it's been 4 months since I started to play again because I have a project with a band, so, in terms of muscle, I'm in the building process ! Regarding the high notes, since I saw your video, I am trying everyday to find what fits the best for me. I found out that there are different possibilities in how one can position his lips, tongue and even the teeth to make it work. And it happens sometimes that when I find the correct relative position of all this, yes, the sound goes out loud and clear.....and clean. So, now it's just a matter of practicing everyday, identify more precisely what works for me, feel it so that this can be "printed" in my body and becomes automatic.
@@sylvaincalmels1284 Check out episodes 6, 7, 8, and 9 for embouchure basics and "chop builders." If that's the phase you're in, they will likely be helpful!
Good evening sir, I am asked to learn the trumpet for a major event on August and I need help. Please can you teach me on how to be good in a Month?Thank you I'm very grateful
I agree.