Why Video Game Movies Suck

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
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  • @DXFromYT
    @DXFromYT  5 лет назад +510

    I had to sit through 10+ hours of Paul W.S. Anderson go on about how great Milla Jovovich is for this video, so if you enjoyed the video, please give it a like and share it if you can. Helps out the channel and helps me continue producing content like this. Thank you!

    • @Riskofrain527
      @Riskofrain527 5 лет назад +3

      Are you going to review sao ordinal scale?

    • @Anijah2001
      @Anijah2001 5 лет назад +6

      How do you feel about a new Mortal Kombat movie by director who's a big fan of it

    • @HAWKEYESOLO
      @HAWKEYESOLO 5 лет назад +1

      So, hell.

    • @Jumss
      @Jumss 5 лет назад +6

      I bet you can't wait for Doom: Annihilation

    • @benjaminmuratore9341
      @benjaminmuratore9341 5 лет назад +2

      What about Detective Pikachu?

  • @masterzombie161
    @masterzombie161 5 лет назад +123

    It’s baffling that people will just blame the games, but not the film makers who didn’t even play, or know anything about the games. It be like making a remake of Wizard of oz but they never saw it or read the book, so they just made Dorothy as a undercover cop with amnesia played by Alice from the resident evil movies.

    • @frankwest5388
      @frankwest5388 5 лет назад +4

      masterzombie161 at the risk of sounding like a writer for RoosterTheeth.
      Tell me more about this uncover Dorothy!

    • @masterzombie161
      @masterzombie161 5 лет назад +9

      So it goes like this
      (Suspenseful music playing)
      Dorthy wakes up with amnesia and all of the sudden a junkie named Toto tries to warn her that somebody is after her, so she grabs her white shoes and they run away. Along they’re journey they come across hector baccala aka Scarecrow. He gives them a safe place, till eventually they have a big fight scene with this group called “the wicked” anyway so scarecrow gives his life to save both Toto and Dorthy. Both manage to get away and meet up with a forest hermit names Tim woodsmen. Tim also gives them a place to stay...till Toto tried to use the restroom and stumbled into the basement where he was sewing together pieces of human parts for his deceased wife who remains a head. Toto tried to tell Dorothy but Tim cuts Toto’s Hans off with his axe and knocks him out. Dorothy wakes up and it all of the sudden triggers a memory that she was a cop once on a special assignment. Tim interrupts the memory and asks to come down to the basement. As they walk they hear people outside, it turns out that it’s the wicked. They shoot through the door and they both run down to the basement where Dorothy sees the horror that is bony parts mixed together, and Toto.
      Tim holding his wife whispering to it, Dorothy gets Toto and leave out the basement window. Tim finally snaps out of whispering to his wife and grabs his axe.
      Now this scene is awesome. The wicked Burt’s into the basement and there’s a long shot of time killing them with his axe yelling “I’ll make you into parts” laughing maniacally. Finally though he gets shot to death.
      As Dorothy and Toto wander, Dorothy tells Toto about her memory, and Toto tells her, you were a cop? That can’t be, we were friends for awhile did a bunch of jobs together. Dorothy says what if she was undercover at one point?
      Toto looking blankly as if it could be a possibility, but he shrugs it off saying, since I met you my life is brighter, even with a hand I still feel we can make it out alive. The last person I know that can help is the lion.
      They head to a simple looking house and they see a dude digging something, they approach him from behind and screams while holding a shovel, Toto says “hey it’s me man”, lion says oh hey you scared the shit out of me. Both Dorothy and Toto look at he was putting plants in the ground hence the shovel. Lion says “the hell happened to you hand?
      “Nevermind” Toto says and they head inside. When they head in they tell lion to lock the doors and remove your gps from your phone Incase the wicked tracks you. The lion says oh I recognize you agent Mason.
      Both Toto and Dorothy are shocked.
      The lion says “you don’t remember? You were on a special assignment, go undercover and find the dog and his compadres.” Lion pulls out a gun, and you found us. That explains I haven’t heard from scarecrow. You led the wicked to them.” Toto is like “no she didn’t do it, she’s my firend, she doesn’t remember anything.” Lion says you don’t think the wicked planed for this, you ever heard of hypnotic suggestion? More and more undercover operatives are doing this...lion sees Dorothy’s shoes, “ they were white just in, but are crimson red, what the hell is going on?” Those were his last words till a bullet comes through the window and hits the lion on the throat and bleeds to death.
      Toto and Dorothy get captured by the wicked and taken to their base. Finally Dorothy and tot meet the Witch.
      Her name is kelly West
      She explains that “you were sent in before the fbi to meet up with the dog, scarecrow, Tim woodsmen, and the lion. The operation was called “Dorothy” you were transport the shoes over to each spot as they were to be killed, notice how easily they turned crimson almost like a ruby I always say. What is the purpose you may ask, well...TO SELL THEM OF COURSE! you see cops only care about justice and no style, but my agents and these shoes we can control the cops thus ruling the city.
      Dorothys memory’s come back at this point and points her gun at Toto.
      Good, good Jackie mason kill him and the shoes will be ruby.
      Toto wakes Dorothy back and they kill kelly with a one liner “what a world huh” BOOM shot her in the head. Then they self destruct the place and head on home where the police chef “Mark Wizard” puts them in witness protection where they are finally free from the nightmare.
      The end...or is it?
      (Credits roll)

    • @frankwest5388
      @frankwest5388 5 лет назад +5

      @@masterzombie161 you spent way to much time with this. Might as well steal it and sell it at warner bros. See you later

    • @masterzombie161
      @masterzombie161 5 лет назад +4

      Frank West it’s cool wait till you hear the sequel it’s gonna be a bloodbath

    • @frankwest5388
      @frankwest5388 5 лет назад +1

      masterzombie161 why would there ever be a sequel?
      The movie bombed. I’ll get “inspiration” from somewhere else. Loser

  • @ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC
    @ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC 5 лет назад +178

    Most film adaptations of video games are created by people who have little to no comprehension of the source material that they are adapting... like, the horrible live-action version of Super Mario Bros. from 1993.

    • @BlazeHeartPanther
      @BlazeHeartPanther 5 лет назад +6

      Kind of surprising that clips of it didn't show up in the video.

    • @CelestialDraconis
      @CelestialDraconis 5 лет назад +12

      Which is why the adaptation for Silent Hill was actually half decent. The director was a huge fan of the series, and he brought his ideas to the table for Konami to see, and they greenlit the movie. You can make a videogame adaptation with the most impressive CGI, practical effects, cinematography, etc. But if you don't have heart and passion, and if you don't *_understand the source material,_* then it will fail. So many folks forget that prior to the Dark Knight, we used to get mediocre to terrible Batman films. I mean, the Tim Burtons were dramatic as they were cheesy. It wasn't until Christopher Nolan took the reigns and released a hardcore Batman film, that revitalized the superhero movie genre and had everyone take it seriously for once.

    • @smileyman1721
      @smileyman1721 5 лет назад +2

      And the horrible looking Sonic movie in 2019.
      We have learned nothing.

    • @johnschatz9829
      @johnschatz9829 5 лет назад +1

      BlazeHeartPanther Blaze I’m not surprised. The movies he focuses on are based on games made for players older than Mario’s target audience.

    • @ketrub
      @ketrub 4 года назад

      @@smileyman1721 it was decent

  • @CyanideBlizzard
    @CyanideBlizzard 5 лет назад +308

    By far your most comprehensive and detailed breakdown yet. It really signifies yet another big step in a new direction for your content. Arguably, I would say this is your best video yet. From diagnosing the problem, to identifying what could be done the whole video was entertaining and insightful in a constructive manner.
    Really, really good stuff.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 лет назад

      I feel like he's a bit to emtional driven.

    • @CyanideBlizzard
      @CyanideBlizzard 5 лет назад +6

      @@fightingmedialounge519 But, as human beings, we're composed of emotion. I'd rather have someone with tonal changes, vocal infliction, and emphasis on points than someone just reading a script. It makes the listening experience more enjoyable, and less likely to put someone to sleep because of how monotonous they sound. No offense meant, but as a source of entertainment it needs to have just that.

    • @aljma6359
      @aljma6359 5 лет назад +1

      Upload petscope 2

    • @CyanideBlizzard
      @CyanideBlizzard 5 лет назад +1

      @@thewhiteskull4003 Who in the what now?

  • @harry426
    @harry426 5 лет назад +61

    3:00 Insulting people and talking down to them, the best way to convince them.

  • @Taikomo
    @Taikomo 5 лет назад +182

    It may not be a movie, but the Netflix Castlevania series sure proved video game adaptations can be done damn well.

    • @jaclyneagle6210
      @jaclyneagle6210 4 года назад +2

      ehhhhhh I disagree. I mean, maybe if i wasn't at all familiar with the genre it was trying to be.

    • @YoungBasedChefBeezy
      @YoungBasedChefBeezy 3 года назад +3

      Jaclyn Eagle what?

    • @JojoMonReturns91
      @JojoMonReturns91 3 года назад +1

      @@jaclyneagle6210 i actually can relate as to why I dispise and detest Castlevania Nutflex edition, especially how the 3rd season FUCKED OVER ALUCARD SO HORRIBLY AND RAPED WHATEVER CHARACTER HE HAD BY TWO ASSHOLE WOMEN! I swear to god I hated the first season since it fucked over the continuity of Trevor Belmont, as well as made me hate how Castlevania got seriously blue balled by Konami and I am being honest here, killed Castlevania at its last nail in the coffin. Not to mention I wanted it to be Jojos Bizxare Adventure where its historically accurate to the games, doesnt screw over the timeline, and not to mention didnt do timeline fuckery since now the continuity of the original timeline is erased.
      This is why I hate Netflix and wont be seeing Mortal Kombat for similar reasons as to why its pissing off gamers and people alike.

    • @iorhan9604
      @iorhan9604 3 года назад

      The yakuza movies are pretty good ngl

    • @VergilDarkslayer
      @VergilDarkslayer 3 года назад

      I disagree with everything yoy said and i preatty sure everyone does to.I dont see how you hate s1 at all cause it was ib tge point of making dracula being scary.And the writing was so good showing each characterism.S3 existed as a aftermath and for us to hate the "twins".They werent brother /sister btw and s4.well what can i say?Plot twist a reunion and even if they arent following the classic material they at least made a good ending that concludes everything the writter nailed it

  • @potawatadingdong
    @potawatadingdong 5 лет назад +403

    The dude saying video games have no plot is a complete joke and obviously has no idea what he's talking about.

    • @juggalogamer8541
      @juggalogamer8541 5 лет назад +32

      Exactly just sounds like another mindless fucking idiot I just want to hate to Hate

    • @TheCrackinskullzx0
      @TheCrackinskullzx0 5 лет назад +3

      He hasn’t seen borderlands

    • @lovelyymercyy
      @lovelyymercyy 4 года назад

      for real 💀💀

    • @darthjc4
      @darthjc4 4 года назад

      Hearing him say that pissed me off

    • @expendableindigo9639
      @expendableindigo9639 4 года назад +25

      Yeah, Cosmonaut (who I think is a very good RUclipsr) made basically the same argument saying “If a good video game movie was possible it would’ve been done already.” I hate defeatist arguments like that.

  • @POTTERANDMATRIXFAN
    @POTTERANDMATRIXFAN 5 лет назад +108

    That C. Robert Cargill quote was hilarious. The guy clearly doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

    • @LEONOX233
      @LEONOX233 5 лет назад +20

      Apparently he will co-write the script for the Deus Ex Human Revolution movie, good luck on that, I already hear the excuses...

    • @POTTERANDMATRIXFAN
      @POTTERANDMATRIXFAN 5 лет назад +1

      @@LEONOX233 I heard someone is making a Mortal Kombat movie reboot as well...

    • @MattMan890
      @MattMan890 5 лет назад +11

      He was just as much of a jackass as he was on Spill.
      I remember when Dragonball Evolution came out, he was mocking the fans of Dragonball, and was gleeful that it was bad because he hated the show that much

    • @pheonix2518
      @pheonix2518 4 года назад +10

      > Complains about films based off another medium
      > Proceeds to write a boring film based off another medium
      (Granted Doctor Strange had great visuals but imho the story was boring)

  • @Smoofyful
    @Smoofyful 5 лет назад +154

    I didn't know about those Paul Wes Anderson commentaries. Man those where frustrating to listen to. He feels like someone who plays a game and doesn't pay attention. That or he just didn't play the games and read a wiki. He gets basic information wrong. At the very end of Resident Evil 3 there's a broadcast informing us the rest of the world exists and that the Raccoon incident was contained. The other games show that the world still exists. That and it's well known that the virus in 2 was spread by rats. The remake references that in the trailer.He just made up is own canon.
    Now people assume those changes were made because the games are bad. Not that Anderson simply sucks. We're just not use to adapting that media yet. Comic books are a good exemple.
    You also had to listen to him gushing about is wife.

    • @matohibiki
      @matohibiki 5 лет назад +31

      Anderson sounds like someone who SKIMMED a wiki, had an intern summarize the summary of someone who played the game, but skipped all the cutscenes, and notes, and said:
      "Dammit, I spilled coffee on my pants. No no, keep talking, I'll just clean this up. Dammit, it got on my notes. Something about... An injection that gives... Somebody super powers? Awesome. My wife could totally use that, I mean, Alice could totally have that. What? No no, I'm listening, keep explaining. Dammit, did I get coffee on my shoes, too? Right, zombie outbreak from 1 caused everything. I'm totally ready to make this movie."
      'But sir, I'm only three minutes into my half-hour presenta-'
      "I've got this, let's do this thing. LEEERROOOOYYYY-"
      Aaaand that's how the Resident Evil movies were made.
      ...What? Oh, right.
      "JEEEENNNKIIINNSSS!"

    • @Smoofyful
      @Smoofyful 5 лет назад +7

      @@matohibiki This is painfully accurate.

    • @Dargonhuman
      @Dargonhuman 5 лет назад +13

      @@matohibiki At this point, it's obvious the Resident Evil movies are just really expensive fanfics, he made his wife into the ultimate Mary Sue waifu and they watch the movies before having sex with each other.

    • @matohibiki
      @matohibiki 5 лет назад +12

      @@Dargonhuman While I find your comment accurate, I really could have done without that mental image.

    • @pheonix2518
      @pheonix2518 4 года назад +2

      To this day I am confused plotwise as to why the events of RE3 Extinction and beyond occurred

  • @itsokjared9044
    @itsokjared9044 5 лет назад +385

    That quote from C. Robert Cargill is bullshit and instantly pissed me off. I agree with all of your points and once again, another great video!

    • @alexzablah1455
      @alexzablah1455 5 лет назад +42

      Jared Moore The dude made Dr. Strange who is from another medium even more convoluted than video games and yet no one made that the excuse to fuck it up. He may have made two good movies (Sinister and Dr. Strange) but all his collaboration with the MCU does is pain him as a goddamn hypocrite, even more so as he is tasked to literally write a video game adaptation for the Deus Ex series of all things he could have prioritized given his explicitly stated feelings on video game adaptations!

    • @DR3ADER1
      @DR3ADER1 5 лет назад +5

      John Carmack once compared stories in video games to stories in porn. In that, they're meant to be there, but they're not important. I agree with Carmack of course, as he is one of the most important men (nay, possibly THE most important man) in the gaming industry (he is the turbo nerd who developed the Quake engine family which is heavily used on many of the games you've both heard of and played in the past 15-20 years).
      Point is that I, like a ton of people, don't play games for their stories, rather, for their gameplay. And in game design, gameplay takes precedence over EVERYTHING! Even adventure games utilise this priority as without challenging gameplay mechanics that alienate you, you're left with some of the blandest and easiest gameplay a person can conceive and as a result, left with no challenge(Telltale's games and Life is Strange 1 and 2 being key criminal examples of this type of dilution). And a game with no challenge is a poor game.
      It's also why people threw bouts of rage and laughter at one of Bioware's writers for even suggesting a fast forward button for the gameplay segments because they were apparently in the way of the "story".
      It is also why you keep playing games such as Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid, not because of the story, as hooks can only drag you around for so long. Rather, their gameplay is functional enough to keep going and punch through the narrative as a SECONDARY bonus.
      If I wanted to buy a piece of media for its narrative, I'd buy a book. You know, an article that was designed to fulfil that purpose from the start.

    • @itsokjared9044
      @itsokjared9044 5 лет назад +34

      But I actually play metal Gear Solid for the story. I love Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2 because of the story

    • @DR3ADER1
      @DR3ADER1 5 лет назад +1

      @Madara Uchiha The person who wrote the Witcher books hated the Witcher games. And you have to remember that a TON of game reviews are paid-off fluff pieces anyway.
      Which sullies and nullifies any hints or aspects of objectivity full stop.
      Also, you have to consider that the only writers who HAD a good time with games adapting their works were Harlan Ellison when I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream was being made into a game in the mid-'90s and when Clive Baker was involved in the creation of Inferno in 2001.
      And even then, BOTH games, like the entirety of the Witcher games, are gutted-out husks of their literary counterparts.
      Also, you've just invoked a pathetically idiotic fallacy of your own. By suggesting that an exception DISPROVES the rule of consistency, which is both asinine, retarded and dishonest.
      In reality, any singular exception you or I make here PROVES the rule of consistency that Carmack pointed out. That stories in video games are NOT IMPORTANT!
      Prioritization is key here, and in game design, GAMEPLAY RULES OVER ALL!

    • @DR3ADER1
      @DR3ADER1 5 лет назад +1

      @Madara Uchiha "Think whatever you wish" tell that to any designer worth their salt. But OK, my stark objectivity isn't enough for you when I point out the inherent flaws in utilising exceptions to disprove consistency.

  • @OSW
    @OSW 2 года назад +26

    2:59 Anyone else's blood boil hearing that bell-end ignorantly dismiss games? 🤬 Well done, excellently presented! Another big reason: film companies don't like videogames as it's direct competition, as an entertainment medium.
    Sure, they can begrudgingly make money off videogames, but that's as far as it goes. No thought to elevate, just take. It's not just our loss, it's theirs.

    • @cappedminer369
      @cappedminer369 2 года назад

      i agree with you. i legit want to slam the guy over the head. cutscenes explaining story in games are like dialogue and exposition scenes in movies.

  • @samwallaceart288
    @samwallaceart288 5 лет назад +43

    The first time I watched Alien, my dad outright said “we’re gonna watch that one movie I told you about where an alien pops out of a guy’s chest.” I still loved the movie.

  • @Garry_Combine
    @Garry_Combine 5 лет назад +50

    I had an English teacher that loved video games due to the fact that you interact with the story.

    • @lordcybercat4968
      @lordcybercat4968 5 лет назад +7

      Garry Combine I had a history teacher last year
      He once modded a nes controller and made it a hardrive

    • @bushspring
      @bushspring 2 года назад

      @@lordcybercat4968 That's really neat.

  • @HAZRE.
    @HAZRE. 5 лет назад +58

    Basically, if you make an adaptation of Resident Evil 1 you run the risk of alienating fans of Resident Evil 2, so...how about we just shoehorn in a total and obvious Mary-Sue (Milla) to completely undermine all the existing characters and alienate fans of the entire franchise in one-fell-swoop. Brilliant thinking!
    I've always thought that video game movies suck because the people behind them go into the projects with the mindset that fans of video games are stupid, will accept anything and are easy to make a quick buck on. If you don't appreciate the medium, you won't make a good movie. It was the same with comic book movies. Comic books were seen as a joke, just picture books for nerds and losers who didn't have the mental capacity to appreciate actual books, so the first comic book adaptations were laughable, cheesy and just bad. But damn, they sure made money, huh? This is what's going on with vg movies. These writers, producers and directors couldn't give a shit about doing the medium justice, they just want to churn out some shit we're apparently too stupid to recognize is shit and make a quick buck. Oh, stick Pyramid Head in there even if he has no real reason to be there, it will make the mindless, mouthbreathing masses happy.
    God, I can rant on this forever, it's just so frustrating to see franchises I love get bastardized. I keep hearing about a Metal Gear movie and I am shitting rancid beavers I'm so scared it'll just be a mess and will ruin my favorite characters. :(
    Great video (as always!), you summed so many things up so nicely.

  • @be3tle439
    @be3tle439 5 лет назад +187

    So your basically saying that a bubsy movie would be amazing

    • @DarkSlayerZero2000
      @DarkSlayerZero2000 5 лет назад +21

      It could be.

    • @demsterclippy4252
      @demsterclippy4252 5 лет назад +8

      Its possible if you get the right people. Remember the lego movie man.

    • @DeathtoRaiden1
      @DeathtoRaiden1 5 лет назад +2

      @@civilwarfare101 But if it had a talented animator it wouldn't be Bubsy anymore

    • @madsoulzz2087
      @madsoulzz2087 5 лет назад +6

      could be a great animated movie if put into the right hands

    • @horusreloaded6387
      @horusreloaded6387 5 лет назад +2

      Cliché example: The Lego Movie

  • @WushuKnight19
    @WushuKnight19 5 лет назад +36

    I've been saying for a long time that Don't Breathe is pretty similar to Resident Evil. Only thing missing is the monsters.

    • @BlazeHeartPanther
      @BlazeHeartPanther 5 лет назад +3

      One film you could compare to Resident Evil is 2018's fall film Overlord

    • @1994SonicDude
      @1994SonicDude 5 лет назад +1

      @@BlazeHeartPanther Which is really more like Wolfenstein in some ways but very entertaining regardless.

  • @zetsudvd
    @zetsudvd 5 лет назад +48

    I love the idea that knowing when the chest burster scene happens or that Ripley is the sole survivor would somehow hinder my enjoyment of that film. It's never once stopped me from watching it numerous times and enjoying each viewing.

    • @Carabas72
      @Carabas72 5 лет назад +2

      The main issue here is that he was talking about a mainstream film that isn't aimed solely at the Resident Evil playerbase, and that most people who will see it, especially if it is good, will never even consider playing a Resident Evil game.

    • @srgfkct3544
      @srgfkct3544 5 лет назад +3

      Exactly my thoughts! That scene is still amazing even rewatching it for Xth time; I would love to see some scenes from my favourite games be “copied” into movies, that sounds like a blast

    • @HLHReviews
      @HLHReviews 2 года назад

      Or much like knowing Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker’s father, yet it never stops me from enjoying The Empire Strikes Back.

  • @vivahorizon2773
    @vivahorizon2773 5 лет назад +175

    This video is so relevant now that the Sonic movie trailer has just been released.

    • @hasibkhan989
      @hasibkhan989 5 лет назад +3

      and angry birds movie 2 is the first good video game film.

    • @dr.dylansgame5583
      @dr.dylansgame5583 4 года назад +15

      oh how this didnt age well

    • @Snesui
      @Snesui 4 года назад +1

      Dr.Dylan`s game was hoping this comment existed

    • @dr.dylansgame5583
      @dr.dylansgame5583 4 года назад

      @@Snesui ikr got to commend them ive never seen a company basically remake a entire movie even when they knoe its gonna flop

    • @DD-tv5ze
      @DD-tv5ze 4 года назад +8

      @@dr.dylansgame5583 it's a shame that the company that did the redesign went bankrupt after pretty much saving the sonic movie.

  • @AmanojakuPenguin
    @AmanojakuPenguin 5 лет назад +63

    Watching your content improve and expand over the last 4-5 years I've been around has been a joy, and you have a genuine talent for detailing your points. It's always bothered me how people seem to think the problem is inherent to games being the source material rather than incompetent direction, but I was honestly shocked to hear just how little basic knowledge Anderson even had of the far from complex overarcing plot of the first 3 Resident Evil games. To know that a series of games I genuinely love is being milked dry by someone who gives so little of a shit about them is concerning.

  • @NinjazNeverDie
    @NinjazNeverDie 5 лет назад +128

    The amount of PAYNE you feel when you watch these EVIL adaptions.

    • @MrFirefox
      @MrFirefox 5 лет назад +2

      Thankyou

    • @NinjazNeverDie
      @NinjazNeverDie 5 лет назад +1

      @@MrFirefox thank you for replying.

    • @MrFirefox
      @MrFirefox 5 лет назад +1

      Thankyou for replying within a minute so my short attention span was not diverted

    • @NinjazNeverDie
      @NinjazNeverDie 5 лет назад +1

      @@MrFirefox no problem

    • @v-trigger6137
      @v-trigger6137 5 лет назад +2

      Payne in the butt 😭

  • @QMMarc
    @QMMarc 5 лет назад +19

    That Cosmonaut video was so bad, i'm glad someone made a video on the subject with a less...condenscending and generalizing opinion, at the end of the day, everything can be adapted if done well, with enough care and talent.
    Ps. I like Cosmonaut anyways, I just highly disagree with it, no hate.

  • @eXistenZ1864
    @eXistenZ1864 5 лет назад +64

    Christophe Gans played Silent Hill, he was a big fan of the game and wanted to make a movie years ago, but Assnami wouldn't let him. He finally got his wish, but the company had to put their dirty hands into it. The first Silent Hill was actually good, not great, but visually beautiful and graphically gory.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 лет назад

      I don't know about that.

    • @hiendarinenkoray
      @hiendarinenkoray 6 месяцев назад +1

      Oh. The first silent hill movie was insane, it left such an impression on me as a kid

  • @rezganger
    @rezganger 5 лет назад +21

    What the hell is wrong with that Paul Anderson character?!Dont he even realize that people love playing good games over again,and sometimes even OVER AND OVER again?
    Thanks for sharing man.I love thses type of videos y make.
    Cheers.

    • @Zelix678
      @Zelix678 5 лет назад +5

      He's a hack with the attention span of a toddler.

  • @purplehaze2358
    @purplehaze2358 5 лет назад +10

    Book to game success rate: 50%
    Book to film success rate: 65%
    Game to book success rate: 45%
    Game to film success rate: 5%
    Film to game success rate: 10%
    Film to book success rate: 45%

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 7 месяцев назад

      Ironically, the reason why most film to game adaptations fail miserably is the same as why most game to movie adaptations fail - they're conceived as a low effort cash grab with little regard for the source material.

  • @theluckiesteh9058
    @theluckiesteh9058 5 лет назад +38

    A Good Video Game movie is not impossible but I don't understand why it's so hard for that to happen.

    • @Anijah2001
      @Anijah2001 5 лет назад +21

      To be honest most of directors who's doing the video game movies are bad directors or sellouts

    • @theluckiesteh9058
      @theluckiesteh9058 5 лет назад +2

      @@Anijah2001 True!

    • @BiigiieCheeese
      @BiigiieCheeese 5 лет назад +15

      Because Hollywood doesn't take video game seriously as an art just like anime

    • @nitromagilou597
      @nitromagilou597 5 лет назад +8

      Even when there are some that at least try to be faithful to the source, it doesn't exactly hit the mark.
      Movies like Silent Hill, Mortal Kombat, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, and Warcraft, while they have their fans, they aren't good representations of the games, much less good movies on their own merit.

    • @MCGaui
      @MCGaui 5 лет назад +4

      @@nitromagilou597 mortal kombat is a good representation of the games. the story is supposed to be a kungfu b movie flick.

  • @Benzona
    @Benzona 5 лет назад +23

    Silent Hill (2006) was actually pretty good

    • @oh-not-the-bees7872
      @oh-not-the-bees7872 4 года назад +5

      No, it wasnt. But it tried at least.

    • @BLAM5980
      @BLAM5980 2 года назад +1

      It was an ok movie, but it was a bad Silent Hill movie.

    • @Benzona
      @Benzona 2 года назад

      @Antionitonio Bianchinitio "never existed in other games" he's an easter egg in basically every game after 2. the nurses feature in literally every silent hill game starting with 1. learn your shit before spewing it.

  • @ACBlackJ0ck
    @ACBlackJ0ck 4 года назад +33

    "Adapting games straight would be boring for those who have already played the games"
    Thank goodness these guys don't make book adaptations or anything. Give Harry Potter a gun and have a twist where Snape turns out to be Harry's father. That'll make the film interesting. Hey, those who have read the books wouldn't want a 1:1 adaptation, they'd find it boring!

    • @BLAM5980
      @BLAM5980 2 года назад +1

      I’m not a fan of the guy, but what you’re suggesting is obviously not what he meant.

    • @cappedminer369
      @cappedminer369 2 года назад

      what about anime adapting manga, hell what about superhero movies adapting comics ? people watch those regardless right ?

  • @kisham
    @kisham 5 лет назад +16

    Shoutout to 1995´s Mortal Kombat, also directed by Anderson: for an adaptation of a game, and a fighting game no less (remember Street Fighter), was really good. (Yes, no blood and a that terrible Reptile CGI I know XD.)

    • @rachelwindsor850
      @rachelwindsor850 5 лет назад +5

      The sets and locations in that movie are amazing. Really a feast to the eyes. Say what you want about Paul WS Anderson, but he has an eye for good visuals.

    • @1994SonicDude
      @1994SonicDude 5 лет назад +2

      All that Mortal Kombat was, it was pretty much Power Rangers slapped with the MK logo and there you had the film version of the game. Yet I do like the casting for Shang Tsung, that guy's dialog has gone down in history as being the most faithful to the franchise.

  • @mcfry13
    @mcfry13 5 лет назад +39

    Mortal Kombat is still the greatest live action video game movie. It's a cheesy martial arts B movie at best, and it's still the king. That's both sad and awesome lol

    • @dralakba-dusk31
      @dralakba-dusk31 5 лет назад

      and the Yakuza movie would be the second

    • @dralakba-dusk31
      @dralakba-dusk31 5 лет назад

      and the Yakuza movie would be the second

    • @SamnissArandeen
      @SamnissArandeen 4 года назад +2

      I just wish the Mortal Kombat movie had gotten a sequel.

    • @Ravell52
      @Ravell52 4 года назад +1

      I liked Silent Hill, despite its flaws.

    • @syntheticteapot
      @syntheticteapot 4 года назад +4

      Uh, are we forgetting about the best-worst-movie 'Street Fighter' with the best villain ever played by Raul Julia?

  • @chinaski31dj
    @chinaski31dj 5 лет назад +17

    Max Payne as a PG-13, given the original content, was a big mistake. Studio greed over making a decent movie.

    • @nuclearjanitors
      @nuclearjanitors 5 лет назад +3

      Could have written an amazing Max Payne movie it myself on the shitter...what a waste.

    • @Ecw_Kevin_Torres
      @Ecw_Kevin_Torres 3 года назад +1

      That was because (the director) John Moore want it to be pg 13

  • @StickWithTrigger
    @StickWithTrigger 5 лет назад +24

    THANK YOU glad someone shut cosmonaut up also happy your back

    • @co94203
      @co94203 5 лет назад +6

      I get the feeling that Cosmonaut is one of those critics that makes basic or shitty points on why something sucks. I'm probably wrong for thinking like this though.

  • @AVerySillySausage
    @AVerySillySausage 3 года назад +7

    I laughed out loud at Anderson calling his movies "scary" and comparing them to Alien.

  • @SEESBoy-hy8jz
    @SEESBoy-hy8jz 5 лет назад +16

    I know it doesn't count, but I'm still disgusted by the existence of Avatar and Dragonball Evolution

    • @vizsla826
      @vizsla826 5 лет назад +4

      I'm pretty sure the director of dragon ball evolution apologized for it

    • @yokoyakamori6589
      @yokoyakamori6589 5 лет назад +3

      They count as bad adaptations.

    • @demizson576
      @demizson576 5 лет назад +5

      By 'Avatar' you mean M. Night Shyamalans 'The Last Airbender', I suppose. :)
      TBH, the Dragon Ball movie has a sortof so bad it's good feel to it, IMO. Kinda like a guilty pleasure movie, but a very forgettable one.

  • @drifter4534
    @drifter4534 5 лет назад +14

    The real question is why do they keep making them knowing they'll crash and burn

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 5 лет назад +2

      The Uwe Boll movies were all tax write-offs.

    • @drifter4534
      @drifter4534 5 лет назад +1

      @@ChucksSEADnDEAD retweet

  • @ttimetotroll
    @ttimetotroll 5 лет назад +20

    I legit cried mid way though because this dedicated video essay is structured and created so brilliantly with so much skillful editing but only got so little views. It's so rare to see such much work but in to just one single video nowadays. Keep up the good work DXFan! (And please take breaks in between. Quality > content)

  • @dorjedriftwood2731
    @dorjedriftwood2731 5 лет назад +3

    Something people are absolutely ignoring is a respect for cannon. Most all ignore cannon and that makes them bad to anyone that loves the game. That includes the style of lighting setting choreography. RE game, ton of zombies very few bullets, very vulnerable characters (extreme tension), RE movies tons of bullets a bunch of zombies, invulnerable characters (zero tension). You’re a hundred percent correct about zero directors actually playing the game. A film can literally do anything, watching edited together cut scenes as entertainment proves this absolutely. many of these edits are much better than most movies. I definitely wanted a one to one of RE1 ... I watched alien after aliens I knew about chestbursters and Ripley was the sole survivor, -spoiler- alien was astoundingly good. The truth is writers and directors want the film to be their’s and with any canonical series you can’t do that without ruining it utterly.

  • @SuiteLifeofDioBrando
    @SuiteLifeofDioBrando 5 лет назад +20

    The only exception is some videogame to anime movies like the Persona 3 movies. Fate Stay Night Heavens Feel had a good adaptation if you count visual novels as games.

    • @slug2082
      @slug2082 5 лет назад

      Exactly what i thought

    • @paraclonebasedtrooper8225
      @paraclonebasedtrooper8225 5 лет назад

      tbh visual novels arent even video games since there just movies it's my opinion since I almost went asleep by those visual novels and dissapointed that one of the games I wanted to play was a visual novel

    • @limpnormal4219
      @limpnormal4219 5 лет назад +2

      @@paraclonebasedtrooper8225 I was bored so it isn't a game. Great argument

    • @paraclonebasedtrooper8225
      @paraclonebasedtrooper8225 5 лет назад

      @@limpnormal4219 I'm not stating my opinion as facts. I dont play games just to read. I can just buy a manga or a novel and read it then play it on my system. Hell atleast tale tell games actually made you interact around you
      then a visual novel is just a book but with colors and movements
      Anyway almost all (dont take my word for it and I may be wrong) are just generic anime that you always see minus pyshco pass and steins gate.
      Keep in mind I dont hate visual novels, I'm not interested on that genre. Since the genre is mostly popular by generic romance and hentai.
      If theres a visual novel that u can choose by anything such ass pick a girl you want to be then just focus on a girl for a plot purposes, betray or sacrificed for your people or army n shit alot of possible ways, make the world your world n shit I would definitely buy. I wont buy if the novel has to follow the plot and limited choices.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 лет назад +3

      No, most visual novels allow you to directly effect the story which is something you can only do in games.

  • @az0761
    @az0761 5 лет назад +27

    The first Silent Hill film was pretty decent

    • @BrosL0L
      @BrosL0L 5 лет назад +6

      The first Silent Hill and some parts of Max Payne nails the atmosphere and style but the plot not so

  • @pumpkinspacelatte
    @pumpkinspacelatte 5 лет назад +19

    The Dark Knight comparison goes even deeper than that really. I mean everything being said about video game movies was once levelled at comic book adaptations. 'Oh they're just dumb silly things with people in costumes punching bad guys haha'. They got shit-tier directors & writers, & if they did get any decent actors involved, they would just be there to pay some bills & would either phone in their performance or go overboard because who cares, it's just nerd stuff after all right?' There were a couple of people trying here & there, but they were drowned out.
    Then you had people coming along who actually gave a shit. Nolan gave a take on Batman that wasn't just mindless camp. Singer understood that the X-Men were as much an allegory for fighting oppression as they were about people fighting supervillains (sure the X-Men trilogy was far from perfect, but they actually got the core concept). Marvel came along & actually *needed* to make an effort because it was their money & reputation on the line here. And people started to take notice. Now it's expected that comic adaptations make an effort.
    Like, can you imagine taking someone aside after they'd just watched Batman & Robin & telling them that in a few years a large number of people would pay actual money to see an Aquaman movie, that a Black Panther movie would be up for a Best Picture Oscar, & that people who had never picked up a comic book in their lives would know who the Winter Soldier was & have opinions on him?
    Unfortunately, the people making video game movies are still in that 90s 'this is just crap for kids & nerds & nobody expects these to be good so why bother?' stage. They've learned from comic book movies at least that 'nerd shit' can make $$$$$ so they've started to throw more money at them & hire some talent, but the 'who really cares tho?' mindset is still there - the 'video game movies always suck' becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  • @smuggen
    @smuggen 5 лет назад +19

    Imagine a GOOD Titanfall movie or Darkness 2 movie

    • @CelestialDraconis
      @CelestialDraconis 5 лет назад +1

      Or a Bloodborne movie. Though I would only accept a Bloodborne movie being made if Miyazaki played a huge part in the creative input of the film.

    • @smuggen
      @smuggen 5 лет назад

      Celestial Dragon
      Im never going to be able to watch a movie again without calling it bad.

  • @dmitryalexandersamoilov
    @dmitryalexandersamoilov 5 лет назад +7

    Because they focus on fan service instead of the underlying philosophical conversation of the original work of art.

  • @dylanandino4759
    @dylanandino4759 5 лет назад +13

    Just make a show, a six episode show an hour each episode, more than enough to cover a game, there probably won't be big fancy cgi effects, but I mean a silent hill or reisdent evil adaptation wouldn't need cutting edge cgi, or they could use practical effects

  • @sciencetifik8238
    @sciencetifik8238 5 лет назад +3

    Damn... This is a different turn for Your content, and I enjoyed it. The way You portray and tell everything to me, The Viewer, is awesome, simple to understand and mesmerizing. A video well planned and executed, DX.

  • @kylemaljevac5482
    @kylemaljevac5482 2 года назад +2

    I know it’s not a film but the Arcane League of Legends Netflix series proves that you can adapt a game with absolutely no single player narrative into a masterful piece of art. It’s not the video games that make bad adaptations, it’s the people who make them via creative decisions.

  • @vai_-cn9br
    @vai_-cn9br 2 года назад +4

    directors look at the video game plots superficially rather than getting into details. that i agree with. also...loved the rant!

  • @astroboltos7292
    @astroboltos7292 5 лет назад +7

    You hit the nail so hard that you almost created another universe.

  • @kosmosfan01
    @kosmosfan01 5 лет назад +6

    Having sat through all the RE movies a few months ago reaffirmed that Alice was so OP that it made them stupidier as they went on.

  • @shadowleon659
    @shadowleon659 5 лет назад +26

    It's mostly because lack of loyalty to source material.

    • @jamstonjulian6947
      @jamstonjulian6947 5 лет назад

      Depends on the adaptation.

    • @stevenjones4059
      @stevenjones4059 5 лет назад

      @@jamstonjulian6947 No it doesn't all they need to do is stick to the source material follow the same pattern but on the big screen how hard is that you'd think they would be the easiest movies to make next to superhero movies you don't need a Oscar like story . Just a story that makes sense from what it was adapted from .

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 5 лет назад

      Except some the most popular superhero movies stray heavily from the source material. So clearly being faithful isn't the problem.

  • @IvanTheDarkAngel
    @IvanTheDarkAngel 5 лет назад +35

    Silent Hill was a good movie, just not a very good adaptation

    • @chrisossu2070
      @chrisossu2070 5 лет назад +5

      It was a pretty decent horror movie up until the reveal of the witch hunt nonsense.

    • @IvanTheDarkAngel
      @IvanTheDarkAngel 5 лет назад +1

      @@chrisossu2070 there was nothing wrong with the witch hunt plotline you're just pretentious and nitpicky

    • @youforget1000thingsaday
      @youforget1000thingsaday 4 года назад +1

      @@IvanTheDarkAngel Bro, no.

    • @IvanTheDarkAngel
      @IvanTheDarkAngel 4 года назад

      @@youforget1000thingsaday silence

    • @pinealdreams1064
      @pinealdreams1064 2 года назад

      @@IvanTheDarkAngel Grow up. He's not pretentious, he's right. The strength of Silent Hill is as a psychological horror - which is why 2 is the best game - so taking the cult elements - probably the least interesting elements - was a poor choice for an adaptation.
      Seriously, Silent 2 is screaming 'Please adapt me'

  • @Mangia1432
    @Mangia1432 5 лет назад +6

    Videogames will have their time in the spotlight in cinema. We just need directors who grew up as hardcore gamers to make them. And the videogame medium is still very young. These directors just don't get it and their also hacks. But I believe good directors nowadays won't take on the job because they know better not to fuck with something they don't understand. Also, fuck Paul W.S Anderson

  • @JARFILMS-ue1vy
    @JARFILMS-ue1vy 5 лет назад +4

    I’ve seen stop motion movies based off video games or actual movies and I’m blown away....understandably there are bad ones but I find that even those kind of films have more heart in making than these Hollywood movies
    Well any of the resident evil movies in this case
    Great video

  • @glinkler1422
    @glinkler1422 4 года назад +3

    Robert Cargill is the embodiment of Hollywood smugness. Demonstrating that none of those ‘creative’ writers view video games as legitimate storytelling devices.

  • @MediaGhost_
    @MediaGhost_ 5 лет назад +5

    There's only a video game movie that I love, and that's Uwe Bolls Postal

  • @eltoria3317
    @eltoria3317 5 лет назад +5

    Amazing video. Thoughtful and well structured points that paint a real clear picture of what the problem is. Can't wait to see what comes next.

  • @CHIPCORNFIELD
    @CHIPCORNFIELD 5 лет назад +4

    Not even done watching this video, and would like to say, wow! With content like this you will rise in subs, this is truly amazing my friend. Even though I love your content throughout the year, this shits hitting an all time high. Keep it up boyo!!! You deserve more subs!!!!
    Edit: idk if its just me, but sometimes when you talk, it syncs up with the person/character talking on screen. lmao idk if you did that on purpose or not but, bravo.

  • @redseagaming7832
    @redseagaming7832 5 лет назад +6

    Despite everything I think Silent Hill makes a great movie I have played the games and I was able to play put aside my love for the games to enjoy the movie

  • @nitromagilou597
    @nitromagilou597 5 лет назад +50

    The reason why many of these aren't very good is because of lack of understanding, redundancy, and are extremely difficult to translate to film.
    The appeal of a video game is the interactivity, and all of that is lost when turned into film.
    Another reason is the overabundance of cutscenes uploaded on RUclips. What's the point of watching a live-action iteration of Resident Evil or Mortal Kombat when I could just look up the cutscenes online?

  • @LiquidSnake2097
    @LiquidSnake2097 5 лет назад +2

    Amazing analysis. You got some great points a lot of people usually don't consider and the fact that there's a lot of potential on some narrative-heavy games. You just need someone talented who understands the key plot points and what makes the property stand out to make a great film.

  • @youforget1000thingsaday
    @youforget1000thingsaday 5 лет назад +5

    Absolutely love this channel. A fan since the Cheetahmen review.

  • @johnnyspeedboat6656
    @johnnyspeedboat6656 2 года назад +2

    C. Robert Cargill: "You know the plot that you're so in love with from that game? That is simply a series of cutscenes that are meant to link you shooting shit in one scene, to you shooting shit in another scene. There is no real plot there."
    Hey Rob, real quick list for you here;
    - Heavy Rain
    - Detroit: Become Human
    - Visage
    - Outlast Series
    - Yakuza 0
    ...and the list goes on.....

  •  5 лет назад +11

    The "Silent Hill" movie is brilliant. Everyone dismisses it because it's a video game adaptation but you take that prejudice away, and it's an excellent game.

  • @poofoo5471
    @poofoo5471 5 лет назад +23

    Our seasoned contrarian and critic is back BaBy.

    • @vandagylon2885
      @vandagylon2885 5 лет назад +1

      Is this like, a personal attack or something?

  • @QueerlyBeloved386
    @QueerlyBeloved386 5 лет назад +7

    This was fantastic dude. Thank you for your efforts.

  • @Vits117
    @Vits117 5 лет назад +4

    I must admit, at first I wasn't sure what to expect from this essay and I was not sold on it at all.
    But as it went on and as you elaborated your points I was 100% on board. It was well thought out, well written and well presented. Amd you did not shy away from the most common counter-arguments.
    Even if I did not agree to the fullest with your point I would still feel as I do now: wishing I could like a video more than once.
    Unfortunately for me, since I do agree with your beautifully presented point, I wish I could like this video a few hundred times more. But, alas, no one can.
    Fantastic work. Do keep it up.
    PS: every single instance of saying 'hack' or 'horrible filmmaker' whilst having PWS Anderson in the background put a smile on my face. However, what is you opinion on the PWSA Mortal Kombat cheese fest of a film? An acceptable guilty pelasure? Or just another trainwreck under his belt?

  • @afierymess2307
    @afierymess2307 4 года назад +3

    Paul WS Anderson basically bastardizes the source by having his OC outshine the canon characters people actually care about.
    Didn't he rewrite 3 to the point that Jill was a non-entity in her own story?

  • @plaidchuck
    @plaidchuck 3 года назад +2

    The problem is simply these movies are seen as cash grabs. They're projects not taken seriously and only made when a game is or becomes popular, so that they get bottom barrel budgets and talent from writers to actors.
    Even Mortal Kombat, with the full power of the WB machine behind it only got a 50 million budget.
    Tomb Raider surprisingly got over 100 million so i have no idea what they spent it on there.

  • @jackwalters3928
    @jackwalters3928 5 лет назад +3

    In regards to the guy at 3:30
    Man from the Earth: a group of friends sitting around talking throughout the entire movie. Great movie.
    Locke: One dude in his car, talking on the phone. Yes, that's the entire movie. Amazing movie by the way. Loved it.
    A thing here is there's an idea. That idea can be translated either in a movie or a video game. Depending on the medium, you make tweaks and changes but overall, it can go either way. Of course it can be good or bad, but that depends on the ones who will create the game or movie, not the idea.
    The idea in Resident Evil 2 is that you're a dude stuck in a house trying to survive zombies. How's that a bad movie script?
    Obviously there are video games that cannot be translated into movies, like Pacman or Candy Crush, and movies that cannot be translated into video games, like Gone with the Wind or Sully, but even in those cases someone could pull it off. Of course it would be WAY out of the source material, but it's doable.
    There's plenty of examples of great games based on movies and vice versa as well, so I don't know what these guys are on about. I think that they've seen a lot of video games that turned into bad movies and they're trying to rationalise it in their heads.

    • @ouroldhouse3674
      @ouroldhouse3674 5 лет назад +1

      That's Resident Evil 1 not 2, but yeah I absolutely agree.

    • @jackwalters3928
      @jackwalters3928 5 лет назад +2

      @@ouroldhouse3674 House, police station, potato, potato.

  • @1SWINZ1
    @1SWINZ1 5 лет назад +5

    Wow, that comment about Resident Evil having no plot amazes me. So you're telling me that ideas of death and rebirth that contrasts nicely with the whole "survival" concept, corporate conspiracies, morally questionable scientific advancement, bioterrorism etc... All of this ISN'T incredibly rich storytelling grounds? What? I think you're the problem, guy. Whoever it was that said that about Resident Evil, I think you have a tremendous lack of creativity.
    IMO, you can't compensate for the lack of interactivity in a film. Instead, I think it's more important to compensate for the lack of role-playing, because that's really the secret sauce that lies behind the interactivity. Putting this another way, role-playing is the beating heart that lies at the core of the interactivity. Remember playing with action figures as a child, and note how you'd create a story as you were playing. This is what gaming is all about, IMO. The on-screen playable character is like an action figure, and the world that you are interacting with is a space that you project yourself into through role-play. From an experiential perspective, this needs to be understood in order to make a successful video game film, IMO.

    • @ouroldhouse3674
      @ouroldhouse3674 5 лет назад +4

      Indeed, there were some mind-blowingly ignorant comments from that guy.

  • @LionHuntington
    @LionHuntington 5 лет назад +3

    Thankfully we have Castlevania and Adi Shankar showing how to make a good adaptation: just the right amount of new and faithful.

  • @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane
    @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane 3 года назад +2

    The 2008 film adaptation of Max Payne is a disgrace to Max Payne.

  • @I__swan__I
    @I__swan__I 5 лет назад +3

    DX , long time fan , love to see you grow. Bless up !

  • @DaTruth683
    @DaTruth683 5 лет назад +22

    The first Mortal Kombat is a good video game movie, one of the better ones.

    • @KaiDecadence
      @KaiDecadence 5 лет назад +5

      I actually agree with this. No it wasn't perfect but it had charisma and was fun to watch and sorta had the same energy you'd expect from a MK game.

    • @v-trigger6137
      @v-trigger6137 5 лет назад +2

      If you see Mortal Kombat from a realistic view then yes it was a good movie

  • @adammoore130
    @adammoore130 5 лет назад +6

    Great video but I do feel it's worth mentioning that comic books (especially Batman) have decades of stories available to adapt. The Dark Knight heavily borrows elements from the outstanding Long Halloween comic which, unlike a video game, is 400 pages of story and not 10 hours of interactive gameplay. That being said, no-one even close to the talent of Chris Nolan has gone any where near a video game movie.

  • @Rihcterwilker
    @Rihcterwilker 5 лет назад +2

    An example of a good movie based on a video game: Layton and the Eternal Diva. It's so good that you really feel that you could be playing a game with his foundation on the plot of the movie.

  • @jordan2d
    @jordan2d 5 лет назад +2

    18:23 - Detroid: Become Human OST - Connor Suite

  • @argelisplanchart9438
    @argelisplanchart9438 5 лет назад +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!
    Yoy have managed to put into words and make in one video the thoughts that have been boiling inside my mind for the last 6 years! thank you soooo much.

  • @dracomalfoyvevo
    @dracomalfoyvevo 5 лет назад +9

    Easy... To cash out of that IP

  • @dechha1981
    @dechha1981 5 лет назад +1

    Up untill Star Wars, everyone thought Space Operas INHERANTLY sucked. up untill Pirates of the Caribean, everyone thought pirate movies were dead. Up untill Game of thrones, everyone thought porn was all low-quality.
    Everyone blames videogames for videogame movies sucking, except, ask a gamer why a videogame movie sucks, and we’ll tell you it’s because they changed it too much.
    Back to the Future and the Guy Pierce version of The Time Machine are both loosely based on the same book, but robert Zermeckis knew what he was doing.

  • @demizson576
    @demizson576 5 лет назад +4

    Mr W. S. Andersons argument about people having played the game knowing the plot in advance, and thus being bored while watching the film ... that is just bullcrap IMHO.
    That's what an adaptation is supposed to be about. ANY adaptation. The plot of the source material. Nothing more, nothing less.
    No need to come up with an original story, when you're already ADAPTING one, dumbass.
    I'll try and illustrate this, with some examples.
    - How come I enjoyed the Harry Potter movies (well, some of them, anyway) even though I knew what was going to happen since I had read the books beforehand?
    - Or how about theatrical plays? Everyone knows the ending of 'Romeo and Juliet' and 'Othello' and 'Hamlet' and yet, people would still go to theaters and watch those plays being performed over and over again.
    - Or a Bible movie? Does anyone ever sit down to watch a film about Jesus of Nazareth thinking 'Hmm, maybe they won't crucify him at the end of THIS film, I wonder' ?
    The point is: It doesn't matter if we already know the plot or not. if the movie is good, people will enjoy it regardless of their prior knowledge of the plot.
    EDIT: I see his argument being somewhat valid when applied SPECIFICALLY to Resident Evil. As in Resident Evil 1 - the game vs Resident Evil - the motion picture starring supermodel waifu - but only because the genre is action- horror-thriller or whatever and that particular blend definitely needs a certain amount of suspense to work. So yeah, there's that. But GENERALIZING this idea is just plain wrong.

  • @thebigw1231
    @thebigw1231 5 лет назад +2

    Fingers crossed for the Pokemon detective pikachu movie.

  • @harrylane4
    @harrylane4 5 лет назад +4

    C Robert Cargill is talking shit about video game movies... but isn't he still "officially" attached to the Deus Ex movie, and has been for like, 8 years?

  • @chaosgamer7016
    @chaosgamer7016 5 лет назад +1

    I agree with what you said about video game movies having the potential to be good if put in the right hands. This is why I consider the Tomb Raider movie from 2001 to being pretty close to being an actual good movie.

  • @boyo-shook3891
    @boyo-shook3891 5 лет назад +4

    That C. Robert Cargill quote is just laughably bad. First, because it's just wrong and secondly because it's not really like he's in a place to know better. He's not even a good writer, he made a bad horror film and one about possibly the most boring marvel character to get his own film.

  • @jayviescas7703
    @jayviescas7703 5 лет назад +1

    BRAVO! Excellent: research, presentation, reframing of a commonly accepted questioning of movies based on an assumed trope i.e. why are video game movies bad, synthesis - sometimes it's the source material but, more rather, it's those most responsible for the failure or success of any movie - the writer(s) and/or director(s). I appreciate your insight and perspective - I hadn't considered most of what you put forward. I've seen some good movies pulled from mediocre and not very good sources like Jonathan Foer's novel Everything is Illuminated which was a hodgepodge mess loosely based on James Joyce's Ulysses (more its style than its substance) but the writer/director, Liev Schreiber, wove it back together making it more accessible and beautifully poignant yet joyful at the same time. Just for this I guess I'll have to subscribe to your channel.

  • @sipscha
    @sipscha 5 лет назад +5

    I think the curse is about to be broken #detectivepikachu

  • @jwilsthem.c3780
    @jwilsthem.c3780 5 лет назад +1

    This is a very good video.
    I've been seeing more and more over the past few months that people who love to short the video game medium and say even unintentionally that it is a lesser form of story telling just because "it is" when that's not true at all.
    So many games give enough meat and potatoes in data logs, files and even how each particular section is designed and built to frame a well constructed narrative that can be built upon in a movie.

    • @Nathan-Croft
      @Nathan-Croft 5 лет назад

      Silent Hill 2, Red Dead Redemption 2, Metal Gear Solid 2, Detroit Become a Human just to mention a few games with amazing stories and characters.

  • @vsamodemo
    @vsamodemo 5 лет назад +3

    i feel soooo guilty that Max Payne the ONE OF MY FAVOURITE GAME FRANCHAISES OF ALL TIME Turns out that the Movie is garbage

    • @vizsla826
      @vizsla826 5 лет назад +1

      They pretty much had the whole screenplay right in front of them

  • @louisvictor3473
    @louisvictor3473 5 лет назад +1

    I think you're pretty spot on when you talk about the people adapting not playing the game. But I'd go further. Part of the problem, as often is in creative industries, is management. A studio sees a hype trend, execs make a contract with other execs to license some brand, and assign people to a product development project that they think can deliver some profitable product, and that is it. They're not hiring for suitability for the job, they don't care for knowledge of the source material, all they see are simplistic marketing bullshit: they pick people (director, screenwriters, actors) who they think can drag enough asses to the cinema based on their name alone given their cost and the budget, not because they're a good fit for the project they don't understand. They just see numbers, real and speculation based on previous numbers and little else.
    Look at the modern super hero genre, and how it started: Blade. The two people behind it were passionate. Goyer, who doesn't need introduction, the writer is a passionate comic book fan, who took the source material honestly, with knowledge and love for it. Snipes was also a comic book fan, and a serious casting option. He wasn't just cast for his star power cause at the behest of Hollywood marketeers, though that helped movie, but because he was a good fit for the role and was personally invested in making something good. That is what videogame movies need, less marketeers calling the shots, more people who care about the source material to do a good job.
    Also, fuck those dudes you quoted, man. Paul Anderson in particular "oh, have to change the story because if you go into knowing it, it ruins it". Yeah because everyone played the game. Because it isn't like there is a lot of studies showing that spoilers ain't so bad and people often enjoy something more when they know about it ahead. Because historically inspired movies were never successful "Whaaat, Germany lost the war? Oh no, they crucified Jesus? Who'd've thunk!" Because book adaptations like Gone With the Wind were never successful. Because Disney folk tale adaptations were never a popular thing. And so on, and so forth. Paul Anderson can fuck right off a cliff for all I care.

  • @ComicWriter-ml3qt
    @ComicWriter-ml3qt 5 лет назад +4

    1:12 conkers bad fur day had a story that made people laugh and there were certain jokes that many people recall today. Much like a comedy.
    Red dead redemption and red dead redemption 2, tell stories of men who try to be better in the latter half of their lives so they can live as happy, productive, and with families. There are multiple themes, and plenty of heartbreaking moments. Much like a good action film.
    Silent hill 2. A game I have not played, but I can respectfully tell it’s merit. A horror game that relies on atmosphere, frightening enemies, and a decent story. Much like a well made horror film.
    Life is strange, Detroit become human, heavy rain, and probably the best written out of them all: telltales walking dead: stories that has you Connecting with the characters and exploring the world to understand the universe. When characters die, it fucking hurts. Now I haven’t played the final season yet, but I’m damn sure that there is an unhappy ending in the final walking dead season for the little girl people remember from that small game from 2012.
    So whoever this idiot is saying video games weren’t meant to tell stories, needs to shut the fuck up.
    Now I will continue watching the video

    • @iorhan9604
      @iorhan9604 3 года назад +1

      Ages old comment, but if you like games like that you really should play yakuza.

    • @ComicWriter-ml3qt
      @ComicWriter-ml3qt 3 года назад +1

      @@iorhan9604 Kiwami came out on ps plus back in November of 2018 and I finished 7 in January. Can’t wait to see what ryu ga gotaku studios next game is

    • @iorhan9604
      @iorhan9604 3 года назад

      @@ComicWriter-ml3qt Did you see they announced a new game?

    • @ComicWriter-ml3qt
      @ComicWriter-ml3qt 3 года назад +1

      @@iorhan9604 judgment 2 right? I still gotta finish the first one

    • @iorhan9604
      @iorhan9604 3 года назад

      @@ComicWriter-ml3qt yeah

  • @whade62000
    @whade62000 Год назад +1

    I find it funny that they put MOVIES of all things on this pedestal that other media can't possibly reach. Blockbusters are just about the dumbest form of story because of time. A film has a limit of 1-2 hours to tell everything and so it HAS to be as simplified and dumbed down as possible and replace story with flashiness and spectacle. A video game has 40+ hours to say the same thing, which is why TV/Netflix show adaptations are so much easier as a 1:1 adaptation.

  • @mistergremm735
    @mistergremm735 5 лет назад +7

    *Kept ya waiting, Huh*

  • @Dagarar
    @Dagarar 5 лет назад

    Nice video, but what about videogames how story depends of diferent paths and endings? How can the filmakers choose what endings of the game they are gonna adapt?

  • @symbiote3220
    @symbiote3220 5 лет назад +5

    *very first clip is from an actual decent film adaptation*

  • @blackkatt9552
    @blackkatt9552 5 лет назад +1

    This is the second video to better help me with my writing and better explain my own experiences. Thank you.

  • @monoveloso
    @monoveloso 5 лет назад +3

    to me Resident Evil should be adapted directly from the novels. they are great

  • @SigmaSyndicate
    @SigmaSyndicate 5 лет назад +2

    Has C. Robert Cargill ever actually *played* a video game in his fucking life? His insights are on the level of Jack Thompson in how totally fucking off base they are, and only demonstrate how little he knows about *storywriting*, let alone video games.

  • @16_bit_bungo
    @16_bit_bungo 5 лет назад +3

    It's strange how whenever Paul W.S. Anderson is restrained, he makes movies that I enjoy
    Meaning Aliens vs Predator
    And nothing else

  • @Fangu-Povyzas
    @Fangu-Povyzas 5 лет назад

    Can you give me a link where you got those interviews from at 1:08 3:01 ?

  • @ForeverFornever873
    @ForeverFornever873 5 лет назад +3

    This is by far your greatest analysis yet. I personally think the first Resident Evil movie is pretty good, but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you want to see a pretty decent video game movie i recommend the Resident Evil cgi animated movies, they are not directly based on the games but they have the characters from the games and they have their own original plots that tie into the Resident Evil timeline.

  • @-ice-125-3
    @-ice-125-3 5 лет назад +2

    loads of games with great well thought out stories just to name a few.
    Red dead redemption 1+2
    Arkham series
    spiderman ps4