'I'm going to say this, and the people of Remnant are not going to like this'
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- The son of Remnant Fellowship founder Gwen Shamblin, Michael, is the highest-level defector to ever leave and blow the whistle on the controversial Brentwood church.
The hair should have been the first red flag. What is she hiding in there?
It’s a family curse obviously! Just saw a picture of the daughter. Yikes! Her mom and brother over-tease and her daughter wears hers way to straight and flat. I don’t have great hair either, but at least I try !!
@@GeorgiaJakes7 you probably are rich enough to pay for really expensive hairdressers or one to do your hair everyday. 😂
Her mother’s hair was crazy, I thought she must have some scaffolding made if matchsticks under it to hold it up 😂
It’s a cult to get rich and power over people, that’s exactly what her daughter will do too
Ps, I’m not picking on your hair, mine is in ponytail with stuck out fluffy hairs 😂
@@lilacscentedfushias1852 Unfortunately I’m not rich anymore. I’m on a cancer drug and losing my hair. Not fun. I need to go wig shopping soon. I live in Nashville area and I haven’t heard of this cult. Their hair is definitely disturbing. I couldn’t trust anyone who can’t look in the mirror and see for themselves that this isn’t normal. They definitely wanted the attention. Yikes !!
Bigger the hair the closer to god.
Hiding? Her antenna that will help her in communicating with the "home planet" of KOLOB where God lives. Looks like she was beamed up and now is ready to start going through all the levels of heaven where she will be a God one day as well. Good thing she was married when her angel craft crashed into the baptismal waters, because if she wasnt, she could never even get into the door of heaven as a woman. Praise be ... 🙏
I am proud of Michael. I was in a cult church too! These cult people are insidious. Michael looks exhausted and have been through a war. Keep strong and courageous!
And outsiders can have not that much sympathy for you too. What ‘’should’ve been obvious’’ somehow isn’t to the folks getting caught up in it. Sometimes they even see it, but choose to ignore it because some sort of need is getting met that they don’t wish to let go. (Very much like a ‘toxic’’ relationship). This is especially true if people are believing it’s end times and they are the ‘’remnant’’- fear alone of such a scenario would have people sticking together with others that they normally wouldn’t associate with, like hostages in a terrorist’s siege. Cults know how to abuse and use the trust of well-meaning people. Just to say it’s ‘’end times’’ puts a very dark grim veneer on life, and to say that one is a part of the ‘’few last ones’’ an added strain of dire importance that you keep it up and do more. It’s a mindset one can be coaxed into believing. The media also uses these tactics to get people to join in on whatever idea they’re trying to sell.
@@sonofhibbs4425
Would you say that about ALL CHURCHES/DENOMINATIONS? OR JUST BELIEVING IN YAHWEH (GOD) AND THE GOSPEL OF YASHUA (JESUS)???
All churches are cults!
You
Have to believe in nonsense to be involved in any religion!
@@argonunya6768all, including and especially your “god”
Do you still believe in Santa Claus too?
No, Michael should just walk away and leave then alone! He's being defensive.
It takes all different opinions to make our world livable.
It would be awfully boring if we all agreed on everything!
As a mom, I just have GOT to say how I proud of him I am. His wisdom and freedom is apparent...
Yessssssss
True dat. Agreed. I concur. I 2nd the motion 💯 😎
Right, he's smart enough to realize it was bullshit as soon as he hit the right age. He's lucky that he didn't whole heartedly believe since he was indoctrinated his whole life. A lot of people that are born into those situations, fully and unconditionally believe that shit.
Data mining , is a disease
Looks & sounds like toxoplasmosis, grandiose/depression/delusions
Keep speaking Michael. ❤️🔥
And, watch your back. Sounds like these people have the ability to "take care" of you.
Please keep doing these stories. Those that are caught in this cult need to hear it until they understand that this is not normal, and they need to leave.
yeah the cults make them believe that if they don’t stay with the “obedient” people ( which is their cult to them) , they are going to Hell. so out of fear of Hell, they are staying . But when they stay, they are endorsing false teaching /false doctrine and scripture says in 2John 1;9-11, to not wish them Godspeed and to not let them into your house , lest you share in their evil deeds. Also, they are all disobedient in the cults by denying and sitting under ( which is supporting) any teaching that denies the Trinity. The Trinity is biblically and doctrinally correct and Remnant Fellowship and other cults teach against the Trinity , so to be in these cults puts you in danger.
‘If you leave Remnant, You leave God,’ is not only ‘unfair,’ it’s not true! It’s a lie! And this is how these people control, by lies.
"Pastor" Greg Locke tells his congregation the same thing. It's manipulative
@@vikkilooper4075 really? I’m not a big follower of “preachers.” If I heard that, I’d run!
It’s a scary time. Few out there that can be entrusted with our souls.
It's a hallmark of cult conditioning. This is what Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, 7th Day Adventists, Church of Christ etc all condition their followers to believe. Leaving is the ultimate sin, and "Apostates" are puppets of Satan.
@@Angry20Something true!
@@StankleDankens I don’t either, but that’s because I take care of my sick husband. I Miss fellowship, but I do understand you’re saying!
It sounds a lot like Scientology!
It does. Gwen’s hair would make me run.
It's Christianity.
@@QuinnieMae No, it's really not. Don't be fooled by counterfeits.
@@QuinnieMaeNo it’s not. Christianity teaches God gave humans free will. Cults are the exact opposite. Scientology and this “church” are great examples of lack of free will. They hide under the label of “church” for tax exemption and “ Gods will” for control.
@jamesdellaneve9005. we had the same thought. Lol, her hair needs pray and deliverance. GOD PLEASE KEEP EXPOSING THIS PEOPLE.
Self adoration was never God's plan.
Buddha said the same. It should be common knowledge.
Exactly!! Well spoken!!
Michael, stay strong! God wouldn’t leave you and I’m so glad to hear you say you know that.
Gwen told me that God would leave me if I didn't leave my church and join her church, and that we couldn't fellowship with our former church. I didn't join Remnant and I was taken off of her email list. This was January 2002, I think.
So glad you didn't take the bait!
Thank God that you did not join. Continue walking before God. Check everything you are taught with the Bible. Memorize scriptire to stay strong.
I knew the Lord long before I knew Gwen. I loved the weigh down workshop and led it at church but when it changed I could no longer be a part of it. I didn't want to be controlled by a person, only by the Holy Spirit.
Gwen is clearly mentally ill. people tell you who they are if you listen. It’s fairly obvious IMO.
Spiritual abuse is as common as physical, emotional or sexual abuse, awful people are out there. Beware.
I went to school with the Sims and Leaman family. That they uprooted their whole family from one state to another to become leaders of this cult is mind-boggling. They were considered pillars of the community and a large business owner. It seems that this "church" was the perfect getaway to keep their money "within" and tax-free... I am proud of Michael for opening up and I believe every word he has to say against this cult.
I’m so thrilled that he has spoken and called it out as a cult, I was so hoping he would get out once his mother passed. And I really hope his sister gets out, she looks like she is very ill and has anorexia nervosa.
Hats Off to You Michael..you have given millions the self confidence to see the truths in this major problem..
*EVERY NEWS CHANNEL SHOULD BE SHOWING THIS*
STAY STRONG MY FRIEND
Michael, thank you for sharing your story and the truth about the inside of this cult. I hope you are able to get the support you need and find a new community. Please continue making music because you are so gifted!
God and weight loss in the same sentence? THAT'S ALL IT TOOK FOR ME. RUN, PEOPLE!! RUNNNNNNN!!!!!
That and the fact that women are not called to be pastors.
@@joycewright5386
SAYS WHO? That's a stretch too far.😢
@@victirynom1Timothy 2:12 and 1Corinthians 14:34-35 women are not to be pastors.
@@northwoodsprovider That doesn't establish anything. JUST your Interpretation.
@@victirynom it is written...But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
This scripture speaks of you. A man MUST be born-again to receive the things of God...this is why you are mocking someone who is speaking the truth to you. You are not the sheep of His pasture and so you do not hear what He says.
This is what happens when people do not know what the Bible says. They follow apostates.
Exactly!
But no one knows what the Bible says. It’s up to interpretation, therefore, leads to this
They might have read the Bible but it interpreted it to whatever the leaders or the individual preacher wants. It's far common among many Protestant congregations.
No religious people agree what the bible says. The longest and dumbest dispute in human history.
The bible is a misogynists rule book. If you follow it, hateful cult. If you dont follow it, hateful cult and a clown.
I am so sooo happy that Mr. Williams is doing this interview. And so grateful and impressed by Michael speaking out.
I'm so glad this man woke up to the abuse of this so-called church. He has courage to speak the truth, especially when it involves his mother and other family members.
Great interview.
Has this story been covered by “48 hrs” or “Dateline”?? If not, it’s begging for it…This whole situation is insane.
South by Southwest ... either HBO or NETFLIX documentry several years ago, this is an old, old story with these folks.
It's on Hulu
You mean the brought to you by Pfizer channels?
Yes and I believe Lifetime made the movie about it all
HBO did a docu-series a few years ago, called The Way Down. It was equal parts fascinating and disturbing.
My heart breaks for Michael. His story is LAYERED with issues of family boundary abu$e and dy$function, his place in and OUT of this c@lt deeply bound by his own mother. I LOVE the last thing he said here, and he said it with genuine Godly humility: “I don’t think that’s fair. God was around before remnant church and he will be around after.” Michael, it ALL rests in John 3:16. YOU rest there. 🙏
Thank you Michael, you are correct‼️ God is eternal
No all we need is people to stop using god to control people.
Bless Michael's heart ... ❤❤❤
Humongous hair is a cult tell.
So sad to see the amount of Children prisoners to cults in America.....Our Kids are so awesome taking care of things...THANK YOUUUU 🙏 💞 💖
BLM, Antifa, college students.
@@whiskeymonk4085You're mental.
A couple from this church is still in jail from the abuse the point of unaliving they inflicted on their child cuz of instructions from this church
@@whiskeymonk4085We see the American education system has failed you since you dont know what a cult is. How sad for you
@@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNot Ok child. Go to your safe space. Good luck buying a home lol.
I am so proud of this courages man ! His honesty will give many who are deceived the chance to know the truth.
I cannot imagine being so uncertain of myself or in such need of belonging and acceptance that I would lose my common sense and discernment to the degree that I would follow the teachings of that woman. I cannot fathom the appeal in any capacity. It is such a wildly bizarre story to me.
I feel the same, but then I think of all the fads and social mores of any given time that lots people participated in that I thought was weird. I think religious cults hold all the concern because it takes things deeper in the psyche, but honestly I can think of several movements (political, fads, etc) and thought bandwagons today that I’d equally perplexed as to what appeal or truth people see in them. People ‘’follow’’ those things too. Whether it’s being fanatical over The New Kids on the Block, or believing men have a conspiracy and desire to make all women sex slaves like in The Handmaiden’s Tale…. People are WEIRD. And we all like to think our own farts smell great.
They pretty on vulnerable people who are seeking to be part of something bigger.
Do you feel the same about scammers? You don't have to lack common sense to be influenced by stuff like this; if any kind of cult was that clear cut none would get scammed. The fact is there is similar stuff in here to what you see in church, and that's where it works; mixing what seems truth and ok with a lie. Also, we need to remember that great prophets were affected by manipulation and control in the Bible, so it seems there is a power in this sort of behaviour that causes fear, confusion etc that is able to bypass identity and discernment. . I'm concerned that people feel that only 'vulnerable' people can get affected. Anyone can get affected by this stuff in some way even if not fully in a cult like this. There are countless people who have been affected by scams like this and they're not all weak or vulnerable. They're precious people who often have great gifting themselves....rather like the prophets and kings did in the Bible. May all who are affected by this or other such scams or any form of manipulation or control in the church find peace, rest and freedom. And let the Kingdom come.
anybody can be duped, conned, scammed, tricked, etc. Absolutely anyone. It would be naive to think otherwise.
"Religion Poisons Everything" - Christopher Hitchens
All of life is inescapably religious.
Man poisoned God’s word….
Jesus doesn't.
What gets me is how people followed this woman. Just looking at her hair and physical transformation over time I would be super skeptical. She looks like she was a wreck inside and it was coming out in her appearance.
She, like all other cult leaders, is a raving narcissist.
Not to mention her hideous makeup
Michael Thank you for your honesty and candor. Church abuse if real. Im so sorry that you have gone through this. Please know that we hear you and will pray for the comfort of God and your healing.
It’s amazing how people couldn’t see through this evil woman! She was so blatantly over the top in appearance and decadence. If the congregation wasn’t so blinded they could see this was a scam of huge proportions!
Let me introduce you to the Trump cultists…..
looks alone screamed something wasn't right
@@SeeFair23Over 80 million people voted for biden, a racist predator and that's what the current vice president said about him!😬
Honestly so so glad to hear him speaking out
Please stay safe, Michael.
We need to teach our children about the dangers of cults.
I hope this guy makes it through. I could tell he had reservations during his music career there. What his mom did to him is just sad.
The level of control, especially the "guidance system", is creepy! They kept a dossier on the members to keep them in line.
That’s also why since the invention of the internet, Facebook, searches recorded, how very very vulnerable we are if none if that which is said to be guarded as private is in fact not.
I still can’t believe people don’t see straight through this stuff… hard to imagine following Gwen or anyone like her.
Never follow someone who insists you follow them.
Scripture says that there’s going to be lots of deception before Jesus returns.
So glad that he has found his voice
Tax the cult⚖️
She's hiding ah whole new head underneath that hair...😂😂
A kewpie doll ... fat shrinks, hair doesn't.
She “was” 🤨
Antenna to beam her back home. 🙏
"Cone-heads"...😂😂😂
I think a whole body is under that hair
How would anyone not know that she is not godly?
I hope he sees all the good encouraging comments, he’s a really really talented singer and songwriter. He needs to be in Nashville writing and singing or in the music industry because he’s a good singer and writer.
The Sister is nuts too. Nuts about money.
Big respect to any news caster who wears a dark aqua, velvet blazer. I love that coat. ❤
They tracked weight? And butted into personal business of congregants without permission? Why would anyone put up with that mental abuse?
Wow! This does not sound like a Godly church! The daughter forgets what Jesus said "the first shall be last and the last first". She lifts herself and mother up and not Jesus. Would Jesus turn anyone away because of their weight? Its ok to lie? If you leave the Remnant you leave God? Jesus said He will never leave you or forsake you, that no one the Father has given Him can be taken from Him. That Christ died on the cross for all who believe and accept Him as Saviour . Repent, run from this church and find a bible teaching loving church that follows Christ. Our eternal life depends on that.
yeah , find a church that teaches the and believes in the Trinity and teaches/preaches the true gospel ; Remnant Fellowship teaches against the Trinity, so run from it.
hope you are doing good Michael. You are a brave soul
Love you Micheal! You're so brave!
My 'ex' tried to take me a very similar church in Burleson Tx. Weight loss program, keeping files, breaking up marriages thru 'counseling' if the spouse wasnt completely committed to the church etc etc. l told the ex ld go if they didnt do 3 things being 1) get political. They blew that day 1. 2) Claim the earth is 6,ooo years old and 3) praise war and the military. They had marine color guard do a sword dance on stage and recruit in the lobby. lt took them a month to do this. We went wednesdays and Sundays. l never went back and they immediately put my ex up to run the singles night parties and told her to divorce me. lm betting this is waaaaay more common than people will admit.
Based. Sounds like a brown jacket army... he just needed a beer haul...😂😂😂
Wow. 😮scary
Amen young man amen 🙏🏾 stay strong.
Let's hope the church doesn't end up like J. Jones and his flock !!! Glad to see this young man FREE.....
Wow. Good for him. I always felt so sorry for his predicament. We trust & love our parents and sometimes they lead us down unhealthy paths
God bless him.
Ephesians 5:11
11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them
AMEN!
Best wishes in rebuilding his life. It is hard when everything you believe to be real is shattered.
So proud of Michael for coming forward. I left in 2010 and was literally stalked, and I was only a distance member.
God is not these people... He warned against them. Saying they would come in His name, but they would not be be of Him. Stay away from them. I am so encouraged by this man that chose truth and righteousness over evil and deceit. God always pulls His people out of every situation. Godspeed!
Bless him for the truth !!!
Narcissists and psychopaths are everywhere.
It's true Freedom when a son speaks the truth of their evil hidden under good mother. Takes courage and compassion.
Mini scientology 😮
We believe him💪
The word Remnant is defined as a small portion that remains after the main portion no longer exists. So are they one of the factions of evangelicals that believe the rapture happened in the 1820s? (Birth of Mormonism, 7th Day Adventist, and the American Ammonite/Mennonite Movement took hold in that decade)
Yes. It sounds to me like a lot of “end times” ministries where they’re looking for the 144,000 people who will be allowed in heaven while everyone else perishes. “A small, surviving group”.
@@shewho333that didn’t work out well for Lori Vallow or Chad Daybell
The word “rapture “ isn’t even in the AV, KJV, NKJV, NIV, RSV. “16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” There is no “secret rapture” as “every eye shall see Him”!
When He returns the second time
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
When the Bible speaks of “as a thief” it is talking about the fact that it will be UNEXPECTED because IF you expected the thief you would have been ready for him. He will come with a “great noise” and the “elements shall MELT with fervent HEAT”. Read the verse and play it out - the rapture deception tells people not to worry if you don’t make the rapture because after seven years you have another chance. It tells everyone that they will still be living on this earth with the Antichrist after the rapture. CLEARLY that isn’t so by this one verse alone, we don’t even need to look at all the others to debunk this deception as the verse tells us that “THE EARTH ALSO and the works that are therein shall be BURNED UP”. If the Earth is burned up how can anything or anyone be alive and living on it? This kind of crap is what people who don’t read or study the Bible believe. Idk exactly what the Mormons believe, but the SDAs don’t and never have. The original Millerites, who eventually became SDA (what was left of them) believed the second coming would happen in 1844 - NOT THE RAPTURE.
@@southernyankee2300 When people are caught up together in the clouds, those who have died already and those that are alive, that is a rapture. Everyone shall see it. That is a rapture.
Thanks for sticking up for Dads!!!
My heart goes out to this guy. I admire him so much. It takes a lot of strength and integrity to stand up to evil like that and be true to one’s self and to the truth.
Religion is HILARIOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAN-MADE religion is hilarious yes. But the God of the Holy Bible, Gods Word, is as real and as important as breathing air. Man is sinful and will fail every time, but Gods Holy word is everlasting, perfect and will never fail. He gave his only begotten Son so that we can have everlasting life in Heaven for all of eternity!! Amen.
Sometimes. Mostly it’s just terrifying.
It looks as though Michael was starving himself, too, while Gwen was still alive.
Bless you Michael for truth and those who use discernment
I had a friend that stopped being my friend because his dad found out I wasn’t southern Baptist
Cults are dangerous.
Rejected from his own family, all because he was overweight. It’s sick.
But it also makes me think he would still be supporting the cult if he wasn’t overweight.
@@joycewright5386his weight has always fluctuated & while both thin and overweight he was permitted to be leader at Remnant and on camera with his music. This is fully his real choice to disassociate himself from what he fully believes is a cult. Well he ever change his mind and go back? It's possible, he's done it before, but then probably not likely now that he's spoken out against it for the first time.
they didn't reject him necessarily from being overweight ( although they may have). It has to do with they think they are the only ones who are right with God because they walk in obedience per se ( but teaching against the concept of the Holy Trinity is disobedience because the Trinity is biblically and doctrinally correct). They feel he has left the only " obedient " church and therefore they can't fellowship with him because he is disobedient by leaving. This is why I feel they don't fellowship with him. But I think it is God's protection on Michael when they won't fellowship with him because in all reality, Michael shouldn't have fellowship with them because they are teaching false doctrine about God ( teaching against the Trinity like they do) and we are told in scripture not to fellowship with people promoting and teaching false doctrine, lest you share in their evil deeds. See 2 John, first chapter , verses 9-11.
I was raised in a CULT church! SO MANY similarities!
Left that behind years ago!!
Jehovah Witness or Mormon (Latter Day Saints) ?
If a church is asking for this kind of information from me and my family, it is a NO GO!! HOW do people fall for this?
A lack of knowledge…
Targeted individuals 😮
Would anyone really get misted by a woman wearing a beehive?!
This kind of cult goes far beyond remnant . 😡😡
Yes,I'm glad her son escaped and seems to be doing well. That's a blessing ❤
Reminds me of those who followed Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker.
If he can see that it's a cult he should be smart enough to see that he has no reason to believe the religion
Not true at all. What is religion to you?
Cults always have the same ear marks. Especially leaving all other relationships behind.
Thank you Michael. You’ve got a heart of gold thankfully it’s being told what really went on. I’ve lived across the street this church sits at off Franklin road it’s the first thing I’ve seen pulling out of our neighborhood for 32yrs. I’ve heard the stories since I moved here. It was hard to believe then, heartbreaking, and still mind blowing the extent of it all.
That special on her on HBO or whatever platform, was freaking amazing. It was put together so well, it was just bizarre enough to keep me interested, and I must admit, I re-watched again a few weeks ago...
Is it still on there? What’s it called?
A great book for anyone affected : The Subtle Power Of Spiritual Abuse, by Johnson and Van Vonderen.
I don't understand HOW people can give up there own daily power over to someone else to make decisions for you
I thought this was the lead singer of NOFX for a minute or two 😂
Yes, Michael, the information gathering for blackmail purposes is common in cults, I remember YWAM young people telling their stories about this.
YWAM is another cult that should have more awareness. They were huge when I was in HS and college.
what us YWAM?
@@frick6946 : A missions organization Youth With A Mission.
Why does he have the same hair stlye as his mom?
Who do you think raised him and taught him? It only makes sense
I’m not seeing it. His hair looks normal to me.
I was thinking the same
This son is a brave man revealing the truth about his mother and the cult that his mother is the head of. Thank you Michael for being willing to speak out..I'm sure it is difficult b/c this is your mother...hopefully people will wake up and leave the cult, recognizing it' not of God.
Praise God for deliverance!
If you read scripture for yourself you will never be lost because the holy Spirit confirms truth. Stop allowing these heretics to lead you....
She paid with her life for her crimes. God doesn't enjoy being used....
She got a major dunking at the end though! Babtized by the lake?? lol
@@Notmep lol 😆. Sad but true 👍
Your a hero Michael.....you have saved many people by telling the truth as you were right there up close as it happened.
I'm giving all my blessings to Michael.
SHAMblin
I'm so sorry you never felt the peace of Christ. Only from what He suffered on the cross ✝️ which was to save us from our sins. Nothing else added from us, but our belief in his gift and life.
Are they trying to be like Scientology? I’m glad this guy is speaking out.
TAX CHURCHES!
His hairstyle is........strange
Gwen really looks like the devil rip
God bless Michael.
So sorry this handsome man had to deal with this insanity. It seems to me from this tiny video that his crazy life has made him a very logical, honest man. Thank you for your sacrifices and I hope you have some smooth sailing going forward. Thank you for sharing your strength