This video got encouraged me to do on my own as the dealer quoted me £765 for 4 wheels brakes + pads on my 2020 C5 Air X, so I hope the process would be the same 🙏 🤓
Brilliant video, was a great help and listing the tools meant I could borrow things I didn't own. Concise and showed everything required, including the bits that caused me trouble 😂
Need to take mine apart to cure a minor bind and squeak, no need to change disks and pads. I’m therefore assuming I can do that without removing motor. Great vid.
Yes, that's the way to do it. And the same for Peugeot 308. But I would recommend to remove the EPB-motor before removing caliper. This due the risk of damage the electric connector, it is fragile.
Terrific video - superb detail, and obviously great care taken; sign of a good mechanic! Could you confirm, please, that BOTH EPB actuators get wound back in CLOCKWISE, 'cos I have seen one vid where it says 'clock' for passenger's, and anti-clock for driver's? Thanks.
Ok, having done this job - on my 2015 Picasso C4 with Bosch brakes - I can confirm: (1) BOTH EPB 'pistons' need to be Torx-screwed back CLOCKWISE. You can confirm this on your own brakes by trying turning them each way and observing the hydraulic piston - do the opposite of what makes them come out! (2) The EPB motors on mine were secured to the callipers using 5mm HEX (Allen) screws and not Torx - took me a few minutes to work out why the hell the latter wouldn't fit properly! (3) It is absolutely ok to unclip the EPB cable connector for this job, and that makes life MUCH easier (provided, I understand, you do not start up the ignition during the job until it's complete and the EPB is re-connected). Cover the two open ends with tape - there will be a fair amount of dust flying around. (4) When pressing back the hydraulic pistons, do NOT 'wind' them back, but press them straight in - they simply do not need to be 'wound' (the EPB does this bit), and you'll also run the risk of distorting the piston's rubber garter. (5) Once the new pads are fitted, pressed snugly against the disc, and the calliper replaced, take up the slack using the EPB piston by winding it anti-clockwise to bring the brake piston forward. You can judge it's far enough by the disc starting to bind (so back it off - clockwise - a good half-turn or so until it's free-running again), or just do it enough to take up any obvious gap, and the EPB will do the rest later once applied. Then turn the ignition back on (WITHOUT pressing the clutch to start the engine!) and engage the EPB - it'll 'whirrr' to FULLY take up any slack and get the brakes all set. Do NOT press the foot brake BEFORE this - you ideally want the EPB to take up the slack, and then for the 'hydraulics' to start from this base position.
What an excelent much needed video. Cant Thank you enough. Well done. Please send me a link for the front too, if you have done it? Thanks I have shared your link on my page.
Great video, just a few questions: 1: Brake caliper bracket torque, definitely 100-120Nm? Read on autodoc it should be 53Nm, but unsure about trusting that. 2: Brake caliper bolts, do you have a torque value for these? Surprised how difficult it's been to find proper torque values, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Once again, top video!
I've searched online too, can't find a definite torque setting, just assumed, given the size of the bolt, M12 with strength grade 8.8-10 gives 100-120NM.
@@mbl-randomdiy6024 thanks for the quick reply. Yeah I agree with your thinking, makes sense. Very odd theres not more information regarding torques, if I find anything in future I'll update here.
@@MrThetasteless you need to push and rotate at the same time, that is why you need a tool. Clockwise direction on both sides. I change for myself and for my father, 2013 and 2015 models, works fine.
@@morbias79ify Citroen's own workshop manual says to 'not' rotate the hydraulic pistons back - just push them straight in. It may be that your method worked, and may well continue to work, but it assumes the rotating hydraulic piston is able to also spin back the electronic parking brake actuator, as I guess it has done for you. But I think the safest method (if you are not using the software) is to remove the motor and wind it back manually, and just push the brake pistons straight in. (Also ensure the hydraulic piston has a notch matching that of the pad's pin.)
@@mbl-randomdiy6024 Yes. No need to turn the piston. BUT, the motor DOES need to have been removed first, and the actuator part of the caliper MUST be wound back manually using a torx tool. Easy to do.
Thank you for the professional exchange show which includes a full description. This is what every website should look like.
Thanks
This video got encouraged me to do on my own as the dealer quoted me £765 for 4 wheels brakes + pads on my 2020 C5 Air X, so I hope the process would be the same 🙏 🤓
Kudos. The reset of the piston by disassembly of thee-motor did the trick.
Thanks very clear in all aspects. Thanks also for listing the dates for the car years and mk
Big thanks from Sweden. You saved me a huge bill from the shop.
Brilliant video, was a great help and listing the tools meant I could borrow things I didn't own. Concise and showed everything required, including the bits that caused me trouble 😂
Need to take mine apart to cure a minor bind and squeak, no need to change disks and pads.
I’m therefore assuming I can do that without removing motor.
Great vid.
Excellent video and the on screen notes are a huge bonus, thank you
Excellent info mate! Really clear and accurate! My Citroen C4 Grand Picasso AKA Kid Taxi! is sorted! 😁
Yes, that's the way to do it. And the same for Peugeot 308. But I would recommend to remove the EPB-motor before removing caliper. This due the risk of damage the electric connector, it is fragile.
Stunning .. I need to do this on mums picasso, and wasn't sure about the epb part but what amazing info here. Thanks.
Perefektes Video Danke
Great video, exactly same for Peugeot 308. Thanks!
Thank you for so much information. This is a massive help to me.
Great guide, i dont conpliment many videos, but this was great!
Very good video, Thanks
Merci, t'es un bon !!!
Thank you so much for this
Big thanks to you!
Terrific video - superb detail, and obviously great care taken; sign of a good mechanic! Could you confirm, please, that BOTH EPB actuators get wound back in CLOCKWISE, 'cos I have seen one vid where it says 'clock' for passenger's, and anti-clock for driver's? Thanks.
Ok, having done this job - on my 2015 Picasso C4 with Bosch brakes - I can confirm:
(1) BOTH EPB 'pistons' need to be Torx-screwed back CLOCKWISE. You can confirm this on your own brakes by trying turning them each way and observing the hydraulic piston - do the opposite of what makes them come out!
(2) The EPB motors on mine were secured to the callipers using 5mm HEX (Allen) screws and not Torx - took me a few minutes to work out why the hell the latter wouldn't fit properly!
(3) It is absolutely ok to unclip the EPB cable connector for this job, and that makes life MUCH easier (provided, I understand, you do not start up the ignition during the job until it's complete and the EPB is re-connected). Cover the two open ends with tape - there will be a fair amount of dust flying around.
(4) When pressing back the hydraulic pistons, do NOT 'wind' them back, but press them straight in - they simply do not need to be 'wound' (the EPB does this bit), and you'll also run the risk of distorting the piston's rubber garter.
(5) Once the new pads are fitted, pressed snugly against the disc, and the calliper replaced, take up the slack using the EPB piston by winding it anti-clockwise to bring the brake piston forward. You can judge it's far enough by the disc starting to bind (so back it off - clockwise - a good half-turn or so until it's free-running again), or just do it enough to take up any obvious gap, and the EPB will do the rest later once applied. Then turn the ignition back on (WITHOUT pressing the clutch to start the engine!) and engage the EPB - it'll 'whirrr' to FULLY take up any slack and get the brakes all set. Do NOT press the foot brake BEFORE this - you ideally want the EPB to take up the slack, and then for the 'hydraulics' to start from this base position.
@@Pityssakes Thank you for your detailed explaination! I would do my 2018 picasso by following your experiences.
Спасибо тебе большое, завтра я тоже займусь заменой задних колодок, надеюсь что все получится как и у тебя.Отличное видео.
Great video. Thank you
What an excelent much needed video. Cant Thank you enough. Well done. Please send me a link for the front too, if you have done it? Thanks I have shared your link on my page.
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Thanks
Spot on👌
Superb video, please what is the size of the bolts retaining the EPB motor (the ones using T30 slim) ? Thanks !
Yip, t30 slim, as the screws close to the epb motor.
@@mbl-randomdiy6024 Thank you but I meant the size like M6-1.25-30 or so :)
I think it's M6x1x25.
Great video, just a few questions:
1: Brake caliper bracket torque, definitely 100-120Nm? Read on autodoc it should be 53Nm, but unsure about trusting that.
2: Brake caliper bolts, do you have a torque value for these?
Surprised how difficult it's been to find proper torque values, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Once again, top video!
I've searched online too, can't find a definite torque setting, just assumed, given the size of the bolt, M12 with strength grade 8.8-10 gives 100-120NM.
@@mbl-randomdiy6024 thanks for the quick reply.
Yeah I agree with your thinking, makes sense.
Very odd theres not more information regarding torques, if I find anything in future I'll update here.
Do you know how to remove the parking brake switch and how to test the brake actuators on a MK2 ?
Where do you live so I can drop my car of 🤣 thanks was worth watching
Great and very helpful but music is annoying af and just talking or tool noise would have been a lot better
Thx
You dont need to remove the motor. Just retract the caliper with a standard retraction tool with released parking brakes both sides and ready.
didn't work for me - what you describes. The motor blocks the caliber to be retracted.
@@MrThetasteless you need to push and rotate at the same time, that is why you need a tool. Clockwise direction on both sides. I change for myself and for my father, 2013 and 2015 models, works fine.
@@morbias79ify Citroen's own workshop manual says to 'not' rotate the hydraulic pistons back - just push them straight in. It may be that your method worked, and may well continue to work, but it assumes the rotating hydraulic piston is able to also spin back the electronic parking brake actuator, as I guess it has done for you. But I think the safest method (if you are not using the software) is to remove the motor and wind it back manually, and just push the brake pistons straight in. (Also ensure the hydraulic piston has a notch matching that of the pad's pin.)
Nope, no need to turn piston. Just push back
@@mbl-randomdiy6024 Yes. No need to turn the piston. BUT, the motor DOES need to have been removed first, and the actuator part of the caliper MUST be wound back manually using a torx tool. Easy to do.
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