Conversely "Just because you got lucky doesn't mean it wasn't a stupid risk to take" is even less commonly understood. - Except when trying long shots for the fun of it when it does happen, then it's worth. :)
It's true, too, especially in a dice game like 40K. While you can play the averages and take safe bets, you have literally no control over how many dice come up 1. You can make the safest, most reasonable move ever and just get a whole stack of 1s and possibly lose the game because you made the right call. It's not often, but it's something to be aware of.
I don't understand the hate for splitting fire sometimes. Yes it's not always the best idea (especially if you're Tau) but what was Nick supposed to do, shoot his bolters into a Land Raider? And not into some Intercessors?? I think it's a totally reasonable thing to do with big tanks full of guns of varying strengths
Rather, splitting into the Landraider might be what the issue was. If he had focused it all on the Intercessors, even if overkill, at least they would be gone.
Well, if you're attacking something, you need it dead. You're just not maximising your chances of killing it. And as someone who rolls notoriously badly, I can't split fire or I never kill anything.
Look at that Repulsor.. that thing is gorgeous. The way he was able to capture that sort of weathered look in such an authentic way is awesome. It's also possible it was just gained through transporting it and continued use, but it seems like he actually painted it and crafted it that way. I only just started my first armies but that caught my eye and man.. well done. Also awesome game! Can't stop watching these!
"Wow, look at Commissar Cain, bravely holding that objective from even the enemy's massive tanks! What a hero!" Meanwhile, cut to Ciaphas Cain's hiding spot, where he's sobbing and praying and pleading he doesn't get noticed in his little corner.
@klgw99 well, unless you have really bad luck. I made 2 saves my last game. Was shot off the board turn 3. Had an enemy skitarii squad wipe my 10 man intercessor squad in cover with armour of contempt (so all up +2 to my AS) and a 6 up fnp. I missed all saves and fnps.
Watching your videos have really helped push me into the hobby more! I just started collecting and painting! I can't wait until i finish and get to meet some people and start playing the game!
We used to follow the “don’t say the m-word” tradition back when I played 3rd edition 40k when I was in school - glad to see the tradition is alive and well 20 years later across the pond 😂
After that terrible DA turn 4, I counted all the DA rolls and averaged them... Statistical dice will roll an average of 3.5. DA rolled an average of 2.96.Thats outside the 97% confidence interval, which with the number of roles this game was + - 0.21. Taking that into account, there was a less than 0.001% chance of you rolling that bad. Conclusion, your dice are badly weighted.
God I’m always so happy to catch a game when in the mood to watch something warhammer cuz watching y’all makes me want to buy minis to build up just any kind of list, paint them up as best as can be and just have a fun match if possible 😂😁
Really liked the phased deployment of this game, have seen it used elsewhere and always struck as a sensible way to avoid total alpha strikes in leiu of alternating activations.
So I been mulling jumping in to 40K for literal years like half a decade and I am doing so next week with some of my Christmas bonus. Had my eye on Tau from the start, for that mech aesthetic of course, but drawn to the Astra in the last several days and that Valkyrie may just be enough to swing the tide that way cuz holy balls that is a gorgeous piece.
yes ! ive been watching and playing mechabellum and wondering how to get that feel in 40k. very cool rules that gives this game a more tactical and quicker turns
I don't know if Nick did any of the sustained hits from his Castellan and the Kasrkin, which I think should have happened on the meltaguns and the Castellan's plasma pistol.
Curious at 32:16. Nick is firing his 2 x heavy Bolters at the Aggressor Squad, Nick rolls 6 x dice, he hits 3 times, saves were rolled but failed, (now this is where I'm curious/confused) Nick rolls 3 x Dice for wounds...yup I'm with ya so far however he rolls a 3, a 5, a 1. Heavy Bolter S5, Aggressor T4 So a 3+ is needed for successful wounds. Nick announces 3 wounds, I do not understand how a die roll of a 1 generates a successful wound. Am I missing something? Besides this it was another fantastically enjoyable game to watch. I'm not sure if I've said it before now but, Thank you very much for all the Hard Work being done at Play On. Thay being said PLAY-ON!!!🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
This is a really cool idea for a game set-up. Starting with the combat patrol and then escalating up over the course of the game is a really cool match up.
imagine being a guardsman and you die bc u stumbled across something you weren't supposed to see and your Commisar didn't know how to just look the other so you get butchered by space marines from that were on your side
My better half and me enjoyed your game, loved it 😊 We have one question maybe you or someone from thr Community can help us: What is the game board and where can someone get it, it looks amazing!?
"Just because it didn't work doesn't mean it wasn't the right call."
Unironically a very reassuring and inspiring quote. Thanks, Nick!
It is possible to make every correct decision and still lose
Conversely
"Just because you got lucky doesn't mean it wasn't a stupid risk to take"
is even less commonly understood.
- Except when trying long shots for the fun of it when it does happen, then it's worth. :)
“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life.” Jean Luc Picard
a new banger quote to add with this one.
It's true, too, especially in a dice game like 40K. While you can play the averages and take safe bets, you have literally no control over how many dice come up 1. You can make the safest, most reasonable move ever and just get a whole stack of 1s and possibly lose the game because you made the right call. It's not often, but it's something to be aware of.
Can this be the next shirt?
I don't understand the hate for splitting fire sometimes. Yes it's not always the best idea (especially if you're Tau) but what was Nick supposed to do, shoot his bolters into a Land Raider? And not into some Intercessors?? I think it's a totally reasonable thing to do with big tanks full of guns of varying strengths
Splitfire is a bit of a channel meme cuz especially nick has a tendency to end up leaving enemies with 1 wound remaining after splitting fire
@@thomy1516 And then Nick can't kill that unit for the life of him. (which has led to some losses)
Rather, splitting into the Landraider might be what the issue was. If he had focused it all on the Intercessors, even if overkill, at least they would be gone.
Well, if you're attacking something, you need it dead. You're just not maximising your chances of killing it. And as someone who rolls notoriously badly, I can't split fire or I never kill anything.
Splitting fire is great for Tau always use the right weapon for the right target.
"Time for guard to bring in 750pt of reinforcements! That'll be 110 infantry. And a cyclops demo vehicle."
David having some negatively weighted dice... all those ones
Steve touched dice possibly??
Looked like he was ready to have an ace attorney breakdown on some of those rolls
I like how this entire video proves that superstition truly works and belief can grant you extra power which is just such a Warhammer thing
WAAAGGHHHH
Davids a legend, comedic timing, great player. Bring him back.
What an amazing match! David was a great Challenger and he has a gorgeous Dark Angels Army !
Look at that Repulsor.. that thing is gorgeous. The way he was able to capture that sort of weathered look in such an authentic way is awesome. It's also possible it was just gained through transporting it and continued use, but it seems like he actually painted it and crafted it that way. I only just started my first armies but that caught my eye and man.. well done. Also awesome game! Can't stop watching these!
Nick, keep that positive energy coming. 🤘🏻
Dude I swear I’ve never seen Nick win with the guard lol
15:14 Looks like Commissar Cain has made it to the tabletop.
"Wow, look at Commissar Cain, bravely holding that objective from even the enemy's massive tanks! What a hero!"
Meanwhile, cut to Ciaphas Cain's hiding spot, where he's sobbing and praying and pleading he doesn't get noticed in his little corner.
it is always a treat and greatly welcome to see new players on the channel! This was a great video
I love how David had THE WORST ROLLING LUCK I HAVE EVER SEEN and still won the game
Thats why I love this game. Even if you aren't doing much damage. If you can get ahead on VP and make it to the end of round 5 you can still win.
@klgw99 well, unless you have really bad luck. I made 2 saves my last game. Was shot off the board turn 3. Had an enemy skitarii squad wipe my 10 man intercessor squad in cover with armour of contempt (so all up +2 to my AS) and a 6 up fnp. I missed all saves and fnps.
I love Nicks enthusiasm. The trumpet imitation when he rolled an 11 on the Charge with the riders 😂😍
He makes the Videos so fun to watch!
That redemptor dread looks really cool!
Thanks so much!
Shame the inferred marine won't last long
ohh! Dark Angels are finally back on PlayOn!!!
Poor David needs new dice!! Also nice to see the sportsmanship letting the land raider move because of the weird terrain rules for vehicles
Ya he needs to burn those dice with extreme hatred.
LMAO THE FLEX ROLL
What a wildly fun game! I thoroughly enjoyed David and the scenario and would love to see more of both :)
Loveee the narrative. I was just listening to the lorehanmer episode about the lost primarchs
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The more DA the better! Definitely the best bat reps on RUclips. Keep up the good work!
Watching your videos have really helped push me into the hobby more! I just started collecting and painting! I can't wait until i finish and get to meet some people and start playing the game!
Love seeing the Guard in action 🫡
"Dice tell stories and this story is a sad one" xD by that point i was just in stitches man. Too funny! Thanx for such a fun game :)
I recently played a game in a duos tournament against a guy who had 20 rough riders but kit bashed them to be riding dinosaurs. It was epic
It's good to see my Dark Angels getting some representation, Nick. I am sad there was no explosions
Guard Nick is my favorite player. If Tycho is not on board, of course :)
David seems like a very nice guy! Cleary an amazing painter too! Great to see a new face on the channel :)
Bring this guy back!
One of the best 40k in 40min I have ever seen. Hilarious! Fantastic Match.
always happy to see guard played on channel
Well done David, brilliant scenario, hope to see you back with another interesting concept.
We used to follow the “don’t say the m-word” tradition back when I played 3rd edition 40k when I was in school - glad to see the tradition is alive and well 20 years later across the pond 😂
After that terrible DA turn 4, I counted all the DA rolls and averaged them... Statistical dice will roll an average of 3.5. DA rolled an average of 2.96.Thats outside the 97% confidence interval, which with the number of roles this game was + - 0.21. Taking that into account, there was a less than 0.001% chance of you rolling that bad. Conclusion, your dice are badly weighted.
Or the god emperor hates traitors
Wow, thanks for proving what we were all thinking. You're doing Omnissiah's work. Would love to see the formula for your math.
@artemeremin I just manually wrote a tally for all the dice, then fed it into Excel and did a standard distribution
LOL
Are you a Tech-Priest?
David was a fun guest!! great battle!
What an absolute banger of an opening
I just want to hug David after that sad dice story. I roll like that as well brother, I feel your pain.
God I’m always so happy to catch a game when in the mood to watch something warhammer cuz watching y’all makes me want to buy minis to build up just any kind of list, paint them up as best as can be and just have a fun match if possible 😂😁
Nick. Never stop, never stopping. You're a 40k angel in this community
What a treat! Good game David and Nick!
The "Doubt" edit was a great detail, love that little meme 😂
31:40 Just Mubin chillin' in the back 😂
Really liked the phased deployment of this game, have seen it used elsewhere and always struck as a sensible way to avoid total alpha strikes in leiu of alternating activations.
Man watching your magnetized parts move so easily disturbed me. Stronger magnets boys.
That battle terrain is absolutely amazing.
Commander Robin, that got me
This is a phenomenal match
Those guard miniatures looked great.
So I been mulling jumping in to 40K for literal years like half a decade and I am doing so next week with some of my Christmas bonus. Had my eye on Tau from the start, for that mech aesthetic of course, but drawn to the Astra in the last several days and that Valkyrie may just be enough to swing the tide that way cuz holy balls that is a gorgeous piece.
8:28 he didn’t miss he just caught it ;-;
Who gave these armies the friggin pool noodles to fight with lmao. What crummy rolling in that 2nd half
Finally dark angels
David vs Steve, lets goooo! Apocalyptic dice rolling ;p
Awesome, this was like an actual war.
I heard that discord sound at 09:12
was looking for this comment
Can we please see Aeldar v Drukhari next?
Heavy in lore, easy grudge match, and all about the speed! 🤪
I wish it said what music is playing.
There's usually a playlist at the end of the videos. They do pick some great music for their battle reports.
@@Chakfor It would help a lot to know Which of those songs was played at what timestamp though
@@Engitainment Can you provide us the timestamps? 😊
@@Engitainment I used spotify and just went through the list to find the song I was curious about. Might work for you? Not all of them were on there.
I remember when they used the old necromunda game trailer music (not hired gun the one before that)
what an awesome scenario!
The amount of 1's I saw this game was unreal.
39:20 thats the first audible gasp ive given watching this show
Fun scenario idea. Has a Conquest vibe with the staggered reinforcements.
never seen someone roll so many 1s and 2s them baron of dice rly are the dice you need!
Those Attilan Rough Riders must've borrowed some equipment from Krieg lol
Great games of 40k in 40mins 👍
Why that Valkirie at 1:39 has a Tau fusion blaster??? I am calling the Inquisition right now!!!
I would love to see another Adeptus titanicus video just saying
@9:09 had me looking on discord trying to find the message i was sent haha
the 9:11 discord notification goes crazy
Dark Angels for the win!
0:20 rip the eradicator bye the tank
my two favorite armies!
Nick: it did not miss 8:19
Intercessor: yeah dude it was wild, I dodged and this missile just flew by my face lol
I’m looking into getting a table for the house and I really like the size table they use!
🤣"Strike from the sky brothers"... [Chem Cannon turns them to goo]...
Those Eradicators are beautiful. Would love to know where David got the bits for the helmets!
Looks like David tank machine spirit was not so please with him yet the dice tell story.
my literal 2 favorite factions in 40K!
Just a nit pick here: FOB only get sustained while under orders, not just for remaining stationary.
Overall good game! Love this channel!
more narrative games would be cool to see in the future
Thanks for the video
Bugle Chaaaaarge!!!!
The delayed deployment made this game so interesting.
yes ! ive been watching and playing mechabellum and wondering how to get that feel in 40k. very cool rules that gives this game a more tactical and quicker turns
Who gave David Steve^s dice?
Never change nick
9:10
"The chaplain will move up-"
*Discord ping*
The guard should have been getting an extra cp every round
Man this one was a nail bitter
I love Astra militarum
Does a land raider fit wholly within 6" whenever it comes in from strategic reserves?
I don't know if Nick did any of the sustained hits from his Castellan and the Kasrkin, which I think should have happened on the meltaguns and the Castellan's plasma pistol.
Curious at 32:16. Nick is firing his 2 x heavy Bolters at the Aggressor Squad, Nick rolls 6 x dice, he hits 3 times, saves were rolled but failed, (now this is where I'm curious/confused) Nick rolls 3 x
Dice for wounds...yup I'm with ya so far however he rolls a 3, a 5, a 1. Heavy Bolter S5, Aggressor T4
So a 3+ is needed for successful wounds. Nick announces 3 wounds, I do not understand how a die roll of a 1 generates a successful wound. Am I missing something? Besides this it was another fantastically enjoyable game to watch. I'm not sure if I've said it before now but,
Thank you very much for all the Hard Work being done at Play On. Thay being said
PLAY-ON!!!🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Aggressors are T6
U mean aggressor is T6?
Just imagine being a regumar dude with a Lasgun and a Terminator Squad and Aggressors charge you lol
This is a really cool idea for a game set-up. Starting with the combat patrol and then escalating up over the course of the game is a really cool match up.
i got no idea why the field ordinance battery was placed in the open
imagine being a guardsman and you die bc u stumbled across something you weren't supposed to see and your Commisar didn't know how to just look the other so you get butchered by space marines from that were on your side
Its the dark angels...they gonna butcher you anyway.
My better half and me enjoyed your game, loved it 😊
We have one question maybe you or someone from thr Community can help us:
What is the game board and where can someone get it, it looks amazing!?
This is the old gw realm of battle tiles. Sadly they don’t sell it anymore.
@@PlayOnTabletop Thank you for the response! Okay, then it will be just admired in your videos 🤣
great content!
i morn the Dreadnought i morn as a fellow dark angle
I didn't know you could CP reroll a Hazardous roll.
Keep it secret, keep it safe!!!😂😂😂😂 thanks gents!!
I wonder where the missiles miss actually started. I remember saying it playing space marines in 2009.