I love the fact that you are spending time creating content for the seestar, and how to get the best out of the little device. Thank you, I appreciate it.
I tried to learn Siril by watching other RUclipsrs. It was frustrating and I gave up. But I really wanted to improve my SeeStar images so I followed along with your video. Totally easy and I got a great result. Now I’m looking forward to processing many more. Thank you for the help. You’re a good teacher Cuiv. Clear skies!
The SeeStar is the best $400 I’ve spent. 8” Dob for visual of the moon and planets while the SeeStar is stacking. SeeStar for anything deep sky. Awesome duo.
Seestar is the best has happened to the hobby since I remember. Recently, I saw in astrobin the image of quasar taken with it. Nothing compares in simplicity, performance, and price.
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I think is much more than an all in one. It's a qualitative change. Many people are entering into astrophotography because of the S50. Otherwise they would just continue with pure visual systems. S50 solves entry price point and crazy complexity.
Thank you so much for this video! As a dad to an 11 y/o daughter and 8 y/o autistic son, I havent had much time to myself for quite a long time. I've always loved astronomy, but never had a telescope. I bought myself a Seestar for my birthday this year because of its low cost and ease of use for a newb. I've had so much fun since getting it and really looking forward to trying your methods of improving my images. I knew there were ways to improve them, just didn't know how! Thanks so much! Clear skies!
That's so amazing to hear Kevin, thanks so much for this feedback! I love how you're having fun with the Seestar, and hopefully you can share the joy with your kids!
I just got the Seestar couple of days ago and I can't tell you how grateful I am for this video. I also live in city with really high light pollution and your guide really helped a lot improving my photos. It would be really good at some point to have another video where you can go into more advanced editing. Anyway you have a new subscriber now :)
A great example of what can be achieved with a little Seestar, good integration time and free software. With a bit of learning and paid software you can get even better results, however this is quite good. Thank you so much!
Ordered a Seestar S50 today. Your video was of great help explaining post processing. I will be watching it again after I get my first images from Seestar. Excellent video. At 72, I need all the help I can get.
I just received my Seestar two days ago and captured M51 and M81 right away but was looking for a workflow to get more value our of the data, and you provided exactly this, thank you so much!
I got my Seestar two weeks ago. My initial trials, straight from the Seestar, were pretty disappointing compared to what I see on Facebook, so I wanted to learn more about post processing. You video was immensely helpful and I am excited to try post processing. Thank you!
Extremely interesting and helpful video and tutorial. Perfect for those of us on a budget who are enthralled by space and astrophotography, but don't have the brains or the time to buy and learn to operate the high-end equipment and software. Well done.
As a regular user of deep sky stacker, gradient extractors and photoshop to develop images, I have to say this suite of software was very much straightforward and much simpler to understand. Not to mention free! You have made something wonderful come out of a low cost, astrophotography rig. Your instruction method has made the most of the data and provides simplicity and confidence for budding and seasoed amateur astroimagers. As for the final product.... Quel resultant magnifique! Thank you so much and clear skies!
Thanks for this guidance and your clear explanation! I normally only do EAA with a dobsonian and save the image as it is, but the images improves a lot where I follow your (easy and quick) steps. Much appreciated 😃
"When Tokyo is cloudy, Cuiv The Lazy Geek makes excellent videos" 🤗 I have experienced a bit myself with manual stacks from my Seestar, but this video was very helpful.
Seestar and astrophotography newbie here. I have trawled through numerous YT "tutorials", but yours, by far, was the most enlightening (no pun intended :) introduction to the whole process of taking an image from the Seestar through at least some of the options for post-processing, to completion. Knowing nothing about Graxpert or Siril coming in, I now have at least a rudimentary grasp of these tools and a clear workflow to follow. Your explanations of the process are clear and explicit, and easy to follow from beginning to end (I ended up with a very nice image of M17!). Very well done and thank you Cuiv!
I've just bought my seestar now after i saw this video... i haven't done any astrophotography more than two years. I have a heavy rig and to be honest i don't want to spend hours anymore for setups and calibrations and cables and all those things. I just want to be under a dark sky and take pictures. Finally i want to go out again!!!!!!!! :)
I've been lurking on your channel for several days now & was dreading manually stacking and possibly having to buy a photoshop subscription and other star apps. You showed me I can do this with freeware. You also showed me that manual stacking isn't as bad as I had in my mind. I wrote down your entire tutorial in text formal as I followed along. My seestar arrives tomorrow! I especially like that you're in Tokyo. I myself am in a very dense city, so I love that this can be used in the city. Work often has me traveling far outside the city, which will be ideal for dark skies. Thanks for this! My journey begins tomorrow!
That is awesome! I'm so glad this is helpful, and have fun with your Seestar!! Test as much as possible during the day, and don't get frustrated if things don't work perfectly at first!
@Pavewy I'm loving my seestar. I ended up buying a gti mount and svbony scope, zwo guidescope and 120mm guide cam with a asi662mc main cam... lol... now i have 2 scopes working side by side. The seestar has been an awesome tool for when i don't want to fuss with a full-blown system. I also didn't know it would turn into an addiction of buying a full rig (so i can get MUCH closer to galaxies).
@Pavewy the seestar was definitely worth the cash. From the statistics I've been: it still out-specs the new dwarf. The exception might be if you think you'll use the dwarf's scenery mode as a normal camera. They both seem like excellent options though.
Thank you! I will try this on my husband's files - he can't sit still in front of a computer to edit, but I'm happy to do it. Did try this with data I collected last night on the Fireworks Galaxy with my Sky-Watcher 150P that has had some upgrades thanks to your videos, using the 533MC Pro camera. I've only dabbled with processing in Photoshop thus far, so it's nice to have some new (and free!) tools to help me before taking the PixInsight plunge. Great video, as always!
This is a great tutorial that pulls some key tools and processes together! I had put off trying any post processing with my Seestar because I didn't even know where to start. After working my way through this video (with lots of pausing and backtracking) I gained a better understanding of the process and managed to really improve the image I was experimenting with. Thanks!
I admire your work and your commitment to the scene. I have also recently become the proud owner of a Seestar S50. However, I have to say that, in my opinion, the extra effort compared to autoprocessing with the Seestar tools and/or other one-click tools is not worth it. From an aesthetic point of view, I think the manually corrected photo from the Seestar app is even better. But that may be due to my personal taste or different weighting in terms of detail vs. aesthetic ratio. I wish you continued fun and success with your channel and send my best wishes from Mallorca to Tokyo! Stephan aka Moonlight Surfer
What a great tutorial, thanks for taking the time to explain to first time users how this works. Most others I've seen can't keep it to a basic level for beginners and tend to put you off. I've only had my Seestar for a few weeks and using your info I have taken my images to a whole other level. Now I have the confidence to keep practicing and learning more.
Hey Cuiv, I have an accessory kit for my Seestar arriving in the next day or so. It includes a filter holder, dew shield, Bhatinov and Diffraction spike Mask. I am planning on getting a nice tripod and a few different filters in the future. I am just now getting into the manual processing side of astrophotography. Thank you for making these in-depth tutorials, they are very helpful. I am extremely excited to start using my own filters in the future and seeing the results as I learn to process the data I get and try to make the best final images I can!
Late last year I purchased my Seestar S50. I quickly found your channel and your step-by-step guidance has been extremely helpful. Based on the guidance of previous videos I've been saving the sub files, so I'll always have the option to stack them myself if I later choose to do so. Thank you for your efforts in helping those of us new to the hobby.
I've tried to apply the manual stacking procedure as shown by Cuiv on several DSOs and indeed this method rejects significant less subs than with Siril's pre-processing scripts. The method presented is fast and allows you to include many, many more of your subs. GREAT VIDEO and GREAT TIP!! Thanks for sharing your experience Cuiv!!
Thank you very much for your detailed yet easy to follow tutorial. I'm waiting for my Seestar S50 to arrive supposedly 2 days from now. In the meantime I've been joining S50 Facebook groups and watching RUclips videos. This is the 1st explanation of the stacking, image processing, that didn't totally overwhelm me. After I've done some decent long sessions and processed the image I'll see what you think of my results. Once again, I appreciate your outstanding tutorial. Troy Howlett Yukon, Oklahoma
Nice explanation of "manual" stacking. Re: Stacking (actually field rotation) artifacts, I get rid of those with Siril's background extraction. It usually takes several passes: once w/o dither and then 2-6 times with drizzle ('till no more improvement is shown). Also, after stretching of the starless image, I do another denoising step in GraXpert and then adjust black point.
Wow! This is a lot of great content. Can you do another one for the Seestar S50 without doing your one sracking? Would love to focus and learn more of the details of the technique using the Seestar stacking. Especially, the sequence. Would love to see that process in action. Great job!
Excellent tutorial! I live in Tokyo too, and I've just ordered a Seestar S50. I'll be trying it out on a hike of Mt Fuji. Hopefully I'll get clear skies!
Hey, Cuiv! This tutorial is great and I have had great results with it. The Seestar now has a mosaic mode. Perhaps it would be interesting if you showed us how we can process these mosaics while stacking the individual subframes using the steps you outlined here.
Great video. I was using the live stacking in my ASI Air and getting nice results but decided to try stacking on the PC for more control (Not a Seestar User). Wow, what a difference. SIRIL is really great. I'm using Photoshop for the last steps, instead of Gimp, but using your same workflow. Thank you for taking the time to share all of this information. It really makes the hobby more fun. Clear skies!
Hey, Thank You very much. That was a great basic tutorial that really helps alot of the folks just learning. Its also inportant so people know, dont over process, you dont need perfection
First, I love your videos! Very informative and entertaining! A couple of questions. 1. How does the Seestar handle dew? 2. Can filters be used with it? 3. Can you live stack with it? 4. Can it be used with sharpcap? Thanks again!
Best overall video I have seen on processing Seestar images manually! I would like to ask, have you used ASI Studo for stacking and gotten similar results as with Siril?
As always: Many thanks! You have once again filled the gap between theory and practice for me. Now I have a 'red thread' that I can work my way along again and again! I assume that in principle I can work in a similar way with my "Dwarf 2", right? I have both telescopes, but the "Dwarf" is more compact for me and therefore easier to take with me everywhere...
It should indeed work well for the Dwarf II, although for that you will need to take your Darks to calibrate - I actually have a separate, similar video for the Dwarf II! ruclips.net/video/pZJmdNyEKf0/видео.html
I had to watch the video a second time and then do the process as I watched parts of it again. I couldn’t do the GraXpert denoise part, tried 5 times and each time I got a not responding error. I was happy with the final outcome of my M27. I think M27 is one of my top 3 favorites!
Super vid Cuiv also if you have the Seestar in 'Station' mode you can use \\Seestar to connect to it a pull the frames in across wifi, even whilst its still imaging.
Thank you for the very comprehensive tutorial. I have processed some images several times - and the result is very different every time. Is that a beginner's problem? Or does this happen to you too?
Fantastic video, very clear! Just one question: what resolution is your final image? I imagine cropping in a 1920x1080 Seestar image leaves you with very little left... could touch still print this? Or are S50 images only for Instagram? Thanks!
Great tutorial Cuiv! I'm a total novice and feel like I can make a real start with image processing based on this video. I took a lot of notes. I notice on the Siril-stacked image you skipped the background extraction step to remove gradient in Graxpert. Could that be why the Siril-stacked image was noisier? David
Thanks David! The background extraction being quite smooth it wouldn't introduce noise... It's just easier that Siril's built-in background extraction!
1:52 Another proof that Seestar is neither AI nor does it download frames from the Internet. I own a green laser pointer, and once, while imaging M13, I pointed my laser toward M13 in the sky. Consequently, I saw the green glow in my image of M13
Cuiv, thank you for making these videos. You are awesome! Wirh that said, if i only wanted to use one software, grax or siril, which would you recommend? I dont mind paying for a subscription if that makes a recommendation easier.
If I have to recommend a single piece of software, it's going to be PixInsight, but that's really expensive (not a subscription though). That said GraXpert and Siril are not replacements for one another they are complementary!
Great video, lots of information to help get the best from the seestar. Can I ask what sort of graphics capability your PC has and what you would consider to be the least GPU spec to use for the image post processing that you do.
Thanks for an easy to understand explanation on the use of these programs. I did process a shot of M27 both ways and to my old eyes they look about the same. Siril did drop about 10% of the subs though. But at least I have another option of making that image much more realistic.
I prefer the image in the middle. Auto- Stacking by S50 is not that bad ! Anywhay I would like to understand more deeply what the image processing algorithms are doing ! Would you recommend reading the following book The Deep-sky Imaging Primer, Third Edition by Charles Bracken . Would you suggest another book ?
Wow you hit the nail on the head with this video! Pix incite is wonderful software but cost 1/2 the price of the seestar. For beginning astrophotography on a budget this is great. Thanks.
hi! this video is so helpful, and I can tell you're really passionate about it! one thing I have trouble on though is during my registration process, even after following your steps exactly (with M51, as well), it still tells me that "half of my PSF FITS have failed- trying increasing convergence criterion". Do you know how to fix this? EDIT I GOT IT! but after telling it to apply current registration, it says "Applying registration computed with higher degree of freedom (8) than shift is not allowed when interpolation is set to none, aborting"
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but regarding stacking the individual subs ourselves, it appears Siril can stack without calibration frames (flats, bias, darks). I'm wondering how easily flats could be taken with the SeeStar: Specifically, keeping the focus exactly the same as when collecting the light frames. I suppose that manual focusing could be done, and do the flats right after collecting the lights, so focus position is the same. An EL panel culd be used to accomplish this. But if flats are done the next day, would there be some sort of step position for manual focus, to return to? Or would the telescope be at exactly the same focus position when powering on the next day? Great video for improving SeeStar images. Dan
I spent 2 years doing astrophotography with my C 11 / Ioptron / ZWO rig. And I feel good about the images that resulted. astro bin tom daigon But after 2 years I got tired of lugging the rig around and constantly troubleshooting software and hardware ( CEM70). So I took a 2 year break and focused on my guitar and making music. Then I bumped into some YT videos on the latest smart telescope tech. And I was intrigued with the Seestar and Vespera 2. But the more I found out about them, the more I gravitated to the Seestar. My only wish is that they would develop a wedge (yes Ive seen the DIY stuff) that allows the scope to see the entire sky so I could increase the 10 sec exposure time which avoids the field rotation issues. My experience with ZWO products was always positive.
@CuivTheLazyGeek great video....im going to reprocess some of my older images this way to see if i can get better results....can i ask though....why you use graxpert instead of the gradient tool in siril?
I’m not an expert by any means regarding deep sky imaging and processing. As a photography enthusiast I do have experience with processing and removing noise from high ISO images and some astro photos. To me it’s always best to remove the noise from an image as early as possible in the post processing so that any other algorithms used to correct or enhance the image is not seeing and working on the noise along with the rest of the image. With that in mind, would it not be better to do the same with these deep sky images that contain a lot of noise, possibly right after stretching, so that the remaining processing is analyzing a "clean" image with only the desired data and not being thrown off by interpreting the noise as well. What are your thoughts?
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I love the fact that you are spending time creating content for the seestar, and how to get the best out of the little device. Thank you, I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoy it!
I tried to learn Siril by watching other RUclipsrs. It was frustrating and I gave up. But I really wanted to improve my SeeStar images so I followed along with your video. Totally easy and I got a great result. Now I’m looking forward to processing many more. Thank you for the help. You’re a good teacher Cuiv. Clear skies!
Awesome to hear, glad this was helpful! Clear skies!
The SeeStar is the best $400 I’ve spent. 8” Dob for visual of the moon and planets while the SeeStar is stacking. SeeStar for anything deep sky. Awesome duo.
Seestar is the best has happened to the hobby since I remember. Recently, I saw in astrobin the image of quasar taken with it. Nothing compares in simplicity, performance, and price.
Yeah as an all in one at this price, it's impressive!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek I think is much more than an all in one. It's a qualitative change. Many people are entering into astrophotography because of the S50. Otherwise they would just continue with pure visual systems. S50 solves entry price point and crazy complexity.
Thank you so much for this video! As a dad to an 11 y/o daughter and 8 y/o autistic son, I havent had much time to myself for quite a long time. I've always loved astronomy, but never had a telescope. I bought myself a Seestar for my birthday this year because of its low cost and ease of use for a newb. I've had so much fun since getting it and really looking forward to trying your methods of improving my images. I knew there were ways to improve them, just didn't know how! Thanks so much! Clear skies!
That's so amazing to hear Kevin, thanks so much for this feedback! I love how you're having fun with the Seestar, and hopefully you can share the joy with your kids!
This is really good video all steps included. Many professionals skip some steps and that's the reason newbies can't understand how to do ghe stuff.
I just got the Seestar couple of days ago and I can't tell you how grateful I am for this video. I also live in city with really high light pollution and your guide really helped a lot improving my photos. It would be really good at some point to have another video where you can go into more advanced editing. Anyway you have a new subscriber now :)
A great example of what can be achieved with a little Seestar, good integration time and free software. With a bit of learning and paid software you can get even better results, however this is quite good. Thank you so much!
Absolutely! Wanted to restrict myself to free software for now though!
Ordered a Seestar S50 today. Your video was of great help explaining post processing. I will be watching it again after I get my first images from Seestar. Excellent video. At 72, I need all the help I can get.
Glad it was helpful!
I just received my Seestar two days ago and captured M51 and M81 right away but was looking for a workflow to get more value our of the data, and you provided exactly this, thank you so much!
Glad this is helpful, I hope you have fun testing this out!
I got my Seestar two weeks ago. My initial trials, straight from the Seestar, were pretty disappointing compared to what I see on Facebook, so I wanted to learn more about post processing. You video was immensely helpful and I am excited to try post processing. Thank you!
I'm glad this is helpful! Good luck with the processing!
Extremely interesting and helpful video and tutorial. Perfect for those of us on a budget who are enthralled by space and astrophotography, but don't have the brains or the time to buy and learn to operate the high-end equipment and software. Well done.
Glad it was helpful!
I’ve been wanting a video like this for ages Fantastic tutorial and explanation best I’ve come across. Thank you.
Thank you!
Hi cuiv, I've seen many seestar and siril tutorials, but yours is the easiest one to follow. Thank you.
This is the best image processing video! Thanks Cuiv!!
I'm glad you like it!
As a regular user of deep sky stacker, gradient extractors and photoshop to develop images, I have to say this suite of software was very much straightforward and much simpler to understand. Not to mention free! You have made something wonderful come out of a low cost, astrophotography rig. Your instruction method has made the most of the data and provides simplicity and confidence for budding and seasoed amateur astroimagers. As for the final product.... Quel resultant magnifique! Thank you so much and clear skies!
Thanks so much for this feedback!! This made my day :) Clear skies!
Thanks for this guidance and your clear explanation! I normally only do EAA with a dobsonian and save the image as it is, but the images improves a lot where I follow your (easy and quick) steps. Much appreciated 😃
Glad it helped!
"When Tokyo is cloudy, Cuiv The Lazy Geek makes excellent videos" 🤗
I have experienced a bit myself with manual stacks from my Seestar, but this video was very helpful.
Haha thank you so much!
Seestar and astrophotography newbie here. I have trawled through numerous YT "tutorials", but yours, by far, was the most enlightening (no pun intended :) introduction to the whole process of taking an image from the Seestar through at least some of the options for post-processing, to completion. Knowing nothing about Graxpert or Siril coming in, I now have at least a rudimentary grasp of these tools and a clear workflow to follow. Your explanations of the process are clear and explicit, and easy to follow from beginning to end (I ended up with a very nice image of M17!). Very well done and thank you Cuiv!
getting mine S50 on Monday. this tutorial is released just in time for me and it is perfect , thank you !
Excellent! Enjoy the scope and the processing!
I've just bought my seestar now after i saw this video... i haven't done any astrophotography more than two years. I have a heavy rig and to be honest i don't want to spend hours anymore for setups and calibrations and cables and all those things. I just want to be under a dark sky and take pictures. Finally i want to go out again!!!!!!!! :)
I've been lurking on your channel for several days now & was dreading manually stacking and possibly having to buy a photoshop subscription and other star apps. You showed me I can do this with freeware. You also showed me that manual stacking isn't as bad as I had in my mind. I wrote down your entire tutorial in text formal as I followed along. My seestar arrives tomorrow! I especially like that you're in Tokyo. I myself am in a very dense city, so I love that this can be used in the city. Work often has me traveling far outside the city, which will be ideal for dark skies.
Thanks for this! My journey begins tomorrow!
That is awesome! I'm so glad this is helpful, and have fun with your Seestar!! Test as much as possible during the day, and don't get frustrated if things don't work perfectly at first!
It's been a month, how did it go?
@Pavewy I'm loving my seestar. I ended up buying a gti mount and svbony scope, zwo guidescope and 120mm guide cam with a asi662mc main cam... lol... now i have 2 scopes working side by side. The seestar has been an awesome tool for when i don't want to fuss with a full-blown system. I also didn't know it would turn into an addiction of buying a full rig (so i can get MUCH closer to galaxies).
@@revenger681 Awesome! Thanks for the update. So is the SseStar worth the money?
I've been looming at either the SeeStar or the Dwarf 3.
@Pavewy the seestar was definitely worth the cash. From the statistics I've been: it still out-specs the new dwarf. The exception might be if you think you'll use the dwarf's scenery mode as a normal camera. They both seem like excellent options though.
Just fantastic. Thanks for the detailed step-by-step instructions.
Thank you! I will try this on my husband's files - he can't sit still in front of a computer to edit, but I'm happy to do it. Did try this with data I collected last night on the Fireworks Galaxy with my Sky-Watcher 150P that has had some upgrades thanks to your videos, using the 533MC Pro camera. I've only dabbled with processing in Photoshop thus far, so it's nice to have some new (and free!) tools to help me before taking the PixInsight plunge. Great video, as always!
Happy to see that, and thanks for helping your husband like that! Good luck with the processing!
great tutorial ! havent bought s50 yet but soon will.cant wait to apply this tutorial by myself
Glad it was helpful!
I am getting my seestar tomorrow and I can't wait to try it with this workflow. Thank you for helping those of us just learning the hobby.
Haha glad you mention images downloaded from internet. It's the first reaction I've seen in some people that owns expensive visual rigs.
Hey this kind of comment is actually a form of flattery ;)
This is a great tutorial that pulls some key tools and processes together! I had put off trying any post processing with my Seestar because I didn't even know where to start. After working my way through this video (with lots of pausing and backtracking) I gained a better understanding of the process and managed to really improve the image I was experimenting with. Thanks!
Yet another great video. Appreciate the detail you go into in explaining how to get better images.
Thank you so much for the feedback as always!
This is a great video and one I will revisit many times in the future, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I admire your work and your commitment to the scene. I have also recently become the proud owner of a Seestar S50. However, I have to say that, in my opinion, the extra effort compared to autoprocessing with the Seestar tools and/or other one-click tools is not worth it. From an aesthetic point of view, I think the manually corrected photo from the Seestar app is even better. But that may be due to my personal taste or different weighting in terms of detail vs. aesthetic ratio. I wish you continued fun and success with your channel and send my best wishes from Mallorca to Tokyo! Stephan aka Moonlight Surfer
What a great tutorial, thanks for taking the time to explain to first time users how this works. Most others I've seen can't keep it to a basic level for beginners and tend to put you off. I've only had my Seestar for a few weeks and using your info I have taken my images to a whole other level. Now I have the confidence to keep practicing and learning more.
Hey Cuiv, I have an accessory kit for my Seestar arriving in the next day or so. It includes a filter holder, dew shield, Bhatinov and Diffraction spike Mask. I am planning on getting a nice tripod and a few different filters in the future. I am just now getting into the manual processing side of astrophotography. Thank you for making these in-depth tutorials, they are very helpful. I am extremely excited to start using my own filters in the future and seeing the results as I learn to process the data I get and try to make the best final images I can!
Late last year I purchased my Seestar S50. I quickly found your channel and your step-by-step guidance has been extremely helpful. Based on the guidance of previous videos I've been saving the sub files, so I'll always have the option to stack them myself if I later choose to do so. Thank you for your efforts in helping those of us new to the hobby.
Very clear explanation of a complicated process. Thank you 👏
Thank you, and glad it was helpful!
I've tried to apply the manual stacking procedure as shown by Cuiv on several DSOs and indeed this method rejects significant less subs than with Siril's pre-processing scripts. The method presented is fast and allows you to include many, many more of your subs. GREAT VIDEO and GREAT TIP!! Thanks for sharing your experience Cuiv!!
I'm so happy this made such a difference!! Thanks for the feedback!
Hey there! Many thanks for such a great tutorial! It is a very easy explanation of complex things! Appreciate this a lot!
All the best to you!
Thank you very much for your detailed yet easy to follow tutorial.
I'm waiting for my Seestar S50 to arrive supposedly 2 days from now.
In the meantime I've been joining S50 Facebook groups and watching RUclips videos.
This is the 1st explanation of the stacking, image processing, that didn't totally overwhelm me.
After I've done some decent long sessions and processed the image I'll see what you think of my results.
Once again, I appreciate your outstanding tutorial.
Troy Howlett
Yukon, Oklahoma
This is a great tutorial! Thanks for making this easy and informative!
Great explanations. Looking forward to try it by myself. Thanks for sharing your Knowledge with us.
Nice explanation of "manual" stacking. Re: Stacking (actually field rotation) artifacts, I get rid of those with Siril's background extraction. It usually takes several passes: once w/o dither and then 2-6 times with drizzle ('till no more improvement is shown). Also, after stretching of the starless image, I do another denoising step in GraXpert and then adjust black point.
These videos on the Seestar are excellent. Thank you.
Wow! This is a lot of great content. Can you do another one for the Seestar S50 without doing your one sracking? Would love to focus and learn more of the details of the technique using the Seestar stacking. Especially, the sequence. Would love to see that process in action. Great job!
Another excellent video Cuiv. The SeeStar has given me so much fun. It's a joy to use and serves my purpose fully
Thanks so much, and yes it is a cracking little scope :)
Excellent tutorial!
I live in Tokyo too, and I've just ordered a Seestar S50. I'll be trying it out on a hike of Mt Fuji. Hopefully I'll get clear skies!
Incredibly helpful, taking my Seestar to another level. Thank you 👍
Great to hear!
Great video Cuiv!
My wife loves her S50.
Excellent!
Top presentation as always, Greetings from Tasmania Australia 👍😁🇦🇺🦘
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome tutorial Cuiv! Makes me want a SeeStar S50 now 🙂
Thanks Dave! It definitely helps when you're feeling frustrated by something not working on your main rig!
Hey, Cuiv! This tutorial is great and I have had great results with it. The Seestar now has a mosaic mode. Perhaps it would be interesting if you showed us how we can process these mosaics while stacking the individual subframes using the steps you outlined here.
Great, really fantastic video for seestar users!❤
Thank you! I do hope the video finds its audience :)
Great video. I was using the live stacking in my ASI Air and getting nice results but decided to try stacking on the PC for more control (Not a Seestar User). Wow, what a difference. SIRIL is really great. I'm using Photoshop for the last steps, instead of Gimp, but using your same workflow. Thank you for taking the time to share all of this information. It really makes the hobby more fun. Clear skies!
Great to hear, glad this was helpful!
Great video! Thank you so much!!
Thanks for watching!
Hey, Thank You very much. That was a great basic tutorial that really helps alot of the folks just learning. Its also inportant so people know, dont over process, you dont need perfection
Brilliant tutorial - as a S50 user I'll give this a go. I'm in Abernethy, Scotland, bortle 4. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you! I hope you enjoy!
Super helpful! A free course how to process astrophotography images! Once it is a bit darker earlier, I will try this out!
Enjoy!
Thx lot for this easy and useful tutorial - now I have a lazy workflow to get more out of my Seestar!
Thank you so much, with this tutorial I can try follow your step and make my seestar imaging even better 🎉
You are so welcome!
@@CuivTheLazyGeek Is this tutorial gonna work for nebulae's too?
Brilliant as usual--merci! And I'll think of you next time I get to that touristy square on Montmartre (inside joke).
Mwahaha i do have a picture with the name of that Place
I always look forward to your videos. Well done and keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!
Can't thank you enough Cuiv!
Awesome tutorial. Thank you very much. So far, I have been using the Sesstar stacking, but I'll try your two approaches next.
Have fun testing out the manual processing!
Great work I will use this video for reference last image was the best to me
Awesome, thank you! Enjoy processing :)
First, I love your videos! Very informative and entertaining! A couple of questions. 1. How does the Seestar handle dew? 2. Can filters be used with it? 3. Can you live stack with it? 4. Can it be used with sharpcap? Thanks again!
🎉🎉 grazie per questi tutorial … mi stai aiutando molto … di nuovo grazie dal Veneto… Italia 🪐 cieli sereni ❤
Thank you for this tutorial. It was easy to follow, and i was successful.
That's awesome to hear, thanks for the feedback!!
Best overall video I have seen on processing Seestar images manually! I would like to ask, have you used ASI Studo for stacking and gotten similar results as with Siril?
I haven't tried ASI Studio, I'll have a look at some point :)
Great video, obviously doing own stacking and processing produces a great result!
Thanks for this - it is very similar to the workflow that I have been using, but nice to have confirmation of that!
As always: Many thanks!
You have once again filled the gap between theory and practice for me. Now I have a 'red thread' that I can work my way along again and again!
I assume that in principle I can work in a similar way with my "Dwarf 2", right?
I have both telescopes, but the "Dwarf" is more compact for me and therefore easier to take with me everywhere...
It should indeed work well for the Dwarf II, although for that you will need to take your Darks to calibrate - I actually have a separate, similar video for the Dwarf II! ruclips.net/video/pZJmdNyEKf0/видео.html
What a tutorial !!! Good job.
I had to watch the video a second time and then do the process as I watched parts of it again. I couldn’t do the GraXpert denoise part, tried 5 times and each time I got a not responding error. I was happy with the final outcome of my M27. I think M27 is one of my top 3 favorites!
Awesome job! Very well explained!
I really enjoyed this video, many thanks
Glad to hear that! Thanks for the feedback!
Super vid Cuiv also if you have the Seestar in 'Station' mode you can use \\Seestar to connect to it a pull the frames in across wifi, even whilst its still imaging.
Very nice! Thanks for the tip!
Excellent guidance! Tell me, did you use a flare filter or not?
Good stuff! Thanks for posting!
Thank you for the very comprehensive tutorial.
I have processed some images several times - and the result is very different every time.
Is that a beginner's problem? Or does this happen to you too?
Fantastic video, very clear! Just one question: what resolution is your final image? I imagine cropping in a 1920x1080 Seestar image leaves you with very little left... could touch still print this? Or are S50 images only for Instagram? Thanks!
You should do a pixinsight one 😊
I know! But then PI + RC Astro are the cost of the Seestar so I wanted to keep things cheap for now :)
Great tutorial Cuiv! I'm a total novice and feel like I can make a real start with image processing based on this video. I took a lot of notes.
I notice on the Siril-stacked image you skipped the background extraction step to remove gradient in Graxpert. Could that be why the Siril-stacked image was noisier?
David
Thanks David! The background extraction being quite smooth it wouldn't introduce noise... It's just easier that Siril's built-in background extraction!
1:52 Another proof that Seestar is neither AI nor does it download frames from the Internet. I own a green laser pointer, and once, while imaging M13, I pointed my laser toward M13 in the sky. Consequently, I saw the green glow in my image of M13
Yep, exactly!
Brilliant video
Thank you!
Cuiv, thank you for making these videos. You are awesome!
Wirh that said, if i only wanted to use one software, grax or siril, which would you recommend? I dont mind paying for a subscription if that makes a recommendation easier.
If I have to recommend a single piece of software, it's going to be PixInsight, but that's really expensive (not a subscription though). That said GraXpert and Siril are not replacements for one another they are complementary!
Great video, lots of information to help get the best from the seestar. Can I ask what sort of graphics capability your PC has and what you would consider to be the least GPU spec to use for the image post processing that you do.
Thanks for an easy to understand explanation on the use of these programs. I did process a shot of M27 both ways and to my old eyes they look about the same. Siril did drop about 10% of the subs though. But at least I have another option of making that image much more realistic.
I prefer the image in the middle. Auto- Stacking by S50 is not that bad ! Anywhay I would like to understand more deeply what the image processing algorithms are doing ! Would you recommend reading the following book The Deep-sky Imaging Primer, Third Edition by Charles Bracken . Would you suggest another book ?
I don't really have opinions on those books, I only own The Astrophotography Manual
Wow you hit the nail on the head with this video! Pix incite is wonderful software but cost 1/2 the price of the seestar. For beginning astrophotography on a budget this is great. Thanks.
Exactly! Cheers!
What awesome tutorial !! Thank you Cuiv!
It would be great that Celestron send you for review purposes their new Origin!!
Subbed!👍
hi! this video is so helpful, and I can tell you're really passionate about it! one thing I have trouble on though is during my registration process, even after following your steps exactly (with M51, as well), it still tells me that "half of my PSF FITS have failed- trying increasing convergence criterion". Do you know how to fix this?
EDIT I GOT IT! but after telling it to apply current registration, it says "Applying registration computed with higher degree of freedom (8) than shift is not allowed when interpolation is set to none, aborting"
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but regarding stacking the individual subs ourselves, it appears Siril can stack without calibration frames (flats, bias, darks). I'm wondering how easily flats could be taken with the SeeStar: Specifically, keeping the focus exactly the same as when collecting the light frames. I suppose that manual focusing could be done, and do the flats right after collecting the lights, so focus position is the same. An EL panel culd be used to accomplish this. But if flats are done the next day, would there be some sort of step position for manual focus, to return to? Or would the telescope be at exactly the same focus position when powering on the next day? Great video for improving SeeStar images.
Dan
I spent 2 years doing astrophotography with my C 11 / Ioptron / ZWO rig. And I feel good about the images that resulted.
astro bin tom daigon
But after 2 years I got tired of lugging the rig around and constantly troubleshooting software and hardware ( CEM70). So I took a 2 year break and focused on my guitar and making music.
Then I bumped into some YT videos on the latest smart telescope tech. And I was intrigued with the Seestar and Vespera 2. But the more I found out about them, the more I gravitated to the Seestar. My only wish is that they would develop a wedge (yes Ive seen the DIY stuff) that allows the scope to see the entire sky so I could increase the 10 sec exposure time which avoids the field rotation issues. My experience with ZWO products was always positive.
Thank you for this great video.
Unforenatly Graxpert is crashing very often on my machine and I have to redo everything again.
brilliant as always
Thank you. Great job.👌
Great video, thanks
Glad you liked it!
@CuivTheLazyGeek great video....im going to reprocess some of my older images this way to see if i can get better results....can i ask though....why you use graxpert instead of the gradient tool in siril?
I used GXP because it's basically a one button background extraction :) Easier and gives great results :)
I’m not an expert by any means regarding deep sky imaging and processing. As a photography enthusiast I do have experience with processing and removing noise from high ISO images and some astro photos. To me it’s always best to remove the noise from an image as early as possible in the post processing so that any other algorithms used to correct or enhance the image is not seeing and working on the noise along with the rest of the image. With that in mind, would it not be better to do the same with these deep sky images that contain a lot of noise, possibly right after stretching, so that the remaining processing is analyzing a "clean" image with only the desired data and not being thrown off by interpreting the noise as well. What are your thoughts?
I just order my seestar and i will learn from you 😊
Hope you like it!