Thanks for the overview, this is probably the tv I will get this year since I keep tvs a long time, LEDs last longer than OLEDs and I need a tv that I don't have to worry about with kids.
Saw this at BB it’s really beautiful display you can see the refinement of the screen since it’s a mini LED and very bright as high as 4000 nits big drawback its very expensive for most people. One box and all wires are connected to it.
Just bought the S95C in 65 inch. the reviews are of the charts and I'm sure I'll be very happy with it. I got an educators discount 0f 10% PLUS they gave me an additional 10% off. Two year interest fee payments too! Just had to do it. LOL
The S95C is my daily use TV and I love it. The 2024 upgrade is pretty amazing too and I just did a video on it: ruclips.net/video/glERiBtZCKk/видео.html
Lot of reviewers seem to miss the one big reason for 8k. If you want large TV's (over 75") and not sacrifice PQ, 8k can give you a sharper picture compared to the same 4k TV. 85" 4k is around 52 PPI (pixels per inch) while the same sized 8k tv is 104 PPI. So a 8k 85" TV has a better PPI than a 43" 4K TV. They make great PC displays. There are drawbacks, it consumes more power, it will not be as bright in some areas as the 4k (you can see this with the Samsung QN95C vs QN900C), and its AI picture processing has to work on 33 million pixels verses 8 million on a 4k TV, so some picture processing will be faster with less latency on a 4k TV.
True, 8K is almost a requirement for a great looking 85in (or larger) TV, especially if you are sitting close up to it, but it does mean managing 33 million pixels!
Ok, an update question. Now that the new 900d is available with the latest gen panel, should I just wait until there's big sale on it in the future, or just go with the 900c. 65 inch only. Or still s95c 65 inch? Just want a picture that I say WOW every time I turn it on. Thanks!
That's a very good question. I've seen the 2024 900d at the upscaling is vasty better than what you get on the 2023 model. However, this isn't to say that the 2023 model doesn't look good, as it looks very good, but there is a significant improvement in making low-quality content look much better on an 8K panel, as well as smoothing out fast-travelling objects in sport, such as golf balls, hockey pucks, etc. Overall, waiting for the 2024 model just depends on how important these things are to you (and your budget). At the top end of picture quality, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between models but for the people who want the best possible picture, even the little things matter. If it were me, I'd go for the 2024 because the jump is significant enough, and I am a screen quality nut. Otherwise, the 2023 is absolutely decent in just about every way.
Thanks for the reply! Presently I have the S95b 55 inch Oled. Hard to imagine some of the content I watch being any better. BUT thinking of moving up to a 65 inch tv sitting at about 7 feet away. It would be the S95c or the qn900c at 65 inch. I'm sure the picture would be great on either one. Night time viewing only in dimly lit room. No gaming. For some reason I just like the thought of having an 8k tv. Any other thoughts? And thanks!
I had to make a very similar decision and it was between the 85in QN900C or 77in S95C OLED. I went with the OLED even though it was 4K vs 8K. I had a chance to take a good look at both of them and I don't regret going with the OLED. For me, the 8K alure just wasn't enough to get me to overlook the gorgeous OLED picture. Considering the environment that you use your TV in, OLED is probably ideal. QLED is better for bright, sunny environments where a brighter screen can punch through the reflections, etc. Either way, the pictures are excellent, I guess it's just what you prefer overall.
Hey Jeff, we only had a small amount of time with the TV so we decided to do a 'first look' type of video that talked more about the features. We are being sent one which we'll do a full review, along with the new 2023 OLED, so keep an eye on gadgetguy.com.au.
Do you mean is an 8K TV like the 900C worth having at 65 inches? In my opinion, probably not. 4K is fine on a screen this size. You'll barely notice the extra resolution unless you sit VERY close to the screen. 8K is far better suited to 75in plus sizes.
The provided specs don't go into that much detail. With contrast, all I can see is that Real Depth Enhancer Pro is supported, but no ratio figure. Samsung and other brands tend to shy away from providing these details nowadays - including the number of backlight zones, etc. Sub-pixel layout, shame we didn't look when we had the panel but we are reviewing it now for our website so I will check in with the reviewer. I suspect it's RGB.
at 4.2 meters a 4k 85" you wouldn't see the pixels either. You can sit much closer then that with a 4k display and still not see the pixels. And yes I have perfect vision.
I know what you mean. I tested out the 98in Q80C (I did a video on it) and I didn't' find its 4K screen to be too pixellated, even when reasonable close to it. Thanks for watching and your comment too!
We only had the TV for a few hours. We're reviewing it fully on GadgetGuy.com.au and we'll post a link to that soon. A few hours is not enough to test a TV's capabilities, only provide an overview of our first impressions, along with what's new for 2023 and anything else that we could spot. For what it's worth, we did not receive any form of compensation from Samsung and only created this video to bring you a first look at the new model.
@GadgetGuy Can I ask since I owned a qn800b 65" 2022 and the entire line was defective and scratched loudly on bass frequencies between 70-130hz (As admitted by samsung also in other lines like qn800b, qn95 qn90), if the 2023 model has the same issue?
I can't say that we noticed anything - but we didn't have long with the TV for the first look. Once of our reviewers on Gadgetguy.com.au is writing up an in-depth review now so it should be published shortly.
1st generation video game consoles (1972-1980) Magnavox Odyssey Atari Home Pong Nintendo Color TV Game series Coleco Telstar 2nd generation video game consoles (1976-1992) Atari 2600/5200 Magnavox Odyssey² Fairchild Channel F Coleco vision Vectrex 3rd generation video game consoles (1983-2003) Famicom/Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) Sega SG-1000 Sega Mark III/Master System Atari 7800 4th generation video game consoles (1987-2004) Super Nes Sega Genesis/Mega Drive TurboGrafx-16/PC Engine Neo Geo AES 5th generation video game consoles (1993-2005) PlayStation 1 Nintendo 64 Sega Saturn Amiga CD32 Atari Jaguar Panasonic 3D0 FZ-10 6th generation video game consoles (1998-2015) PlayStation 2 Xbox GameCube Dreamcast 7th generation video game consoles (2005-2017) Wii Ps3 xbox 360 8th generation video game consoles (2012-) ps4 Switch xbox one Wii U
9th generation video game consoles (2020-) Playstation 5 Xbox Series X/S
It might just be the playback via RUclips - it was pretty smooth when we were using it. It will go up to 144Hz, so good for fast motion objects, games, etc, plus it has VRR to smooth things out. Always a bit tricky to show a TV screen through RUclips and the monitor that you might be viewing it on!
True, the recommended retail price never really seems to happen once the TV hits the shop floor. The $10,995 price is adjusted for retail, and it will likely be less than that soon.
Haha well I was doing a pretty crappy job of pretending to play a game! I can say at least that I’ve been a gamer since I was a kid and have both PS5 and XBox Series X. Currently playing Destiny, finally finishing Horizon Zero Dawn, Witcher 3 in 60fps, and Synapse on my PSVR2…
@@gadgetguytech some people dont want to get extra furniture to place the one connect box, it's extra wall mounting headache, plus if it breaks, and ur tv value sinks by then, its not worth replacing....some of the new tvs dont work without the one connect box...that's the major issue...it's not an option anymore, but forced on you
Ah, I see what you mean! If you have no where to put the One Connect Box, especially when wall mounting, it's a pain. You can buy an extra long cable as an option and place the box far away, but this probably isn't ideal. I recall that there may still be a few ports on the back of some Samsung TVs so you can plug in a few things directly, but it's not great if the TV won't work at all without the box at all, giving you no other options! Thanks very much for your comment.@@tajdidajman4889
I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as future proof. I bought a 75in Q800T back in 2020 to be future proof. I now have a 3 year out of date 8K TV and I want this one.
Yes, true that 8K has been around for a while...and will probably be a while before 8K content is commonplace. I still think that having smaller pixels on a large screen is advantageous when it comes to smoothing out the image, as if you had 4K pixels, they'd be larger and nowhere to go in terms of image smoothing.
True, 8K is limited by the current bandwidth of the HDMI 2.1 connector so the main way you'd get a full 8K signal on your screen is via Wi-Fi 6. There aren't many peripherals that you can connect to your TV that support 8K right now. Maybe the next generation of gaming consoles...but these won't be out for years.
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@@gadgetguytech oh honestly it was just great. Keep it this way and surely your channel will grow and grow. There's a lot of work in presenting but you make it look easy and comfortable for us to watch. 🙏
Question...The 900C is at a good discount right now. Buy now or wait a year for the 900D with the updated processer when it will eventually go on sale at a discount?
Good question. I think what it comes down to is how important the new AI upscaling tech is to you. I saw the 900D at the 2024 Consumer Electronics Show and the new tech really is a whole lot better than then 900C. However, if you don't watch a lot of old-school SD content, then you'll be just fine on the 900C and can take advantage of the savings. I was impressed with the 900C - it's got a great picture, so you won't be missing out on much, however the 900D is better at cleaning up poor-quality footage, and also has better features for sport mode that make fast moving objects like tennis balls clearer (using AI now). Thanks for writing in and watching the video!
Thanks for the overview, this is probably the tv I will get this year since I keep tvs a long time, LEDs last longer than OLEDs and I need a tv that I don't have to worry about with kids.
Thx for getting straight to the point in this review… it’s always appreciated.
85" is the new 65" and 98" is the new 85"
I have this tv and it’s destroying my g2 83 inch
Saw this at BB it’s really beautiful display you can see the refinement of the screen since it’s a mini LED and very bright as high as 4000 nits big drawback its very expensive for most people. One box and all wires are connected to it.
Just bought the S95C in 65 inch. the reviews are of the charts and I'm sure I'll be very happy with it. I got an educators discount 0f 10% PLUS they gave me an additional 10% off. Two year interest fee payments too!
Just had to do it. LOL
The S95C is my daily use TV and I love it. The 2024 upgrade is pretty amazing too and I just did a video on it: ruclips.net/video/glERiBtZCKk/видео.html
Lot of reviewers seem to miss the one big reason for 8k. If you want large TV's (over 75") and not sacrifice PQ, 8k can give you a sharper picture compared to the same 4k TV. 85" 4k is around 52 PPI (pixels per inch) while the same sized 8k tv is 104 PPI. So a 8k 85" TV has a better PPI than a 43" 4K TV. They make great PC displays. There are drawbacks, it consumes more power, it will not be as bright in some areas as the 4k (you can see this with the Samsung QN95C vs QN900C), and its AI picture processing has to work on 33 million pixels verses 8 million on a 4k TV, so some picture processing will be faster with less latency on a 4k TV.
True, 8K is almost a requirement for a great looking 85in (or larger) TV, especially if you are sitting close up to it, but it does mean managing 33 million pixels!
Ok, an update question. Now that the new 900d is available with the latest gen panel, should I just wait until there's big sale on it in the future, or just go with the 900c. 65 inch only. Or still s95c 65 inch? Just want a picture that I say WOW every time I turn it on. Thanks!
That's a very good question. I've seen the 2024 900d at the upscaling is vasty better than what you get on the 2023 model. However, this isn't to say that the 2023 model doesn't look good, as it looks very good, but there is a significant improvement in making low-quality content look much better on an 8K panel, as well as smoothing out fast-travelling objects in sport, such as golf balls, hockey pucks, etc. Overall, waiting for the 2024 model just depends on how important these things are to you (and your budget). At the top end of picture quality, there really isn't a whole lot of difference between models but for the people who want the best possible picture, even the little things matter. If it were me, I'd go for the 2024 because the jump is significant enough, and I am a screen quality nut. Otherwise, the 2023 is absolutely decent in just about every way.
Thanks for the reply! Presently I have the S95b 55 inch Oled. Hard to imagine some of the content I watch being any better. BUT thinking of moving up to a 65 inch tv sitting at about 7 feet away. It would be the S95c or the qn900c at 65 inch. I'm sure the picture would be great on either one. Night time viewing only in dimly lit room. No gaming. For some reason I just like the thought of having an 8k tv. Any other thoughts? And thanks!
I had to make a very similar decision and it was between the 85in QN900C or 77in S95C OLED. I went with the OLED even though it was 4K vs 8K. I had a chance to take a good look at both of them and I don't regret going with the OLED. For me, the 8K alure just wasn't enough to get me to overlook the gorgeous OLED picture. Considering the environment that you use your TV in, OLED is probably ideal. QLED is better for bright, sunny environments where a brighter screen can punch through the reflections, etc. Either way, the pictures are excellent, I guess it's just what you prefer overall.
Why you did not play the tv so we can see?
Hey Jeff, we only had a small amount of time with the TV so we decided to do a 'first look' type of video that talked more about the features. We are being sent one which we'll do a full review, along with the new 2023 OLED, so keep an eye on gadgetguy.com.au.
Great overview👌🏽
8k is too much for now and FOR SURE. However, if you want to watch TV on bezel less screen, 8k infinite screen is the only one option
Who makes the 8K infinite screen? Sounds interesting...
I say 85" is the new 65" television .
For what viewing distances?
Yes I agree. 85" is the size to get now. For fairly close viewing distance (like 9ft away) you can get close to a Cinematic ~40deg viewing angle too
Yeah, until the wife says wtf, you don't need a tv that big. Now send it back. NOW!
Also in a 65 inch tv. Is it worth having at 65 inchs?
Do you mean is an 8K TV like the 900C worth having at 65 inches? In my opinion, probably not. 4K is fine on a screen this size. You'll barely notice the extra resolution unless you sit VERY close to the screen. 8K is far better suited to 75in plus sizes.
You can run games at Native 8K on a PC, we need to see how well this works for gaming.
Yes, I'd love to play a full 8K game on one of these! Will be reviewing the 2024 model of this TV on the channel in a couple of weeks!
Hi since no one can answer this question. Does this television output 8k60fps hdr10 with vrr all together?
Hmm, good question - let me ask Samsung and get back to you.
@@gadgetguytech Thank you.
What's the native contrast?
Is it RGB or BGR subpixel?
Thank you
The provided specs don't go into that much detail. With contrast, all I can see is that Real Depth Enhancer Pro is supported, but no ratio figure. Samsung and other brands tend to shy away from providing these details nowadays - including the number of backlight zones, etc. Sub-pixel layout, shame we didn't look when we had the panel but we are reviewing it now for our website so I will check in with the reviewer. I suspect it's RGB.
@@gadgetguytech thank you
Still no Dolby Vision support.... when is Samsung going to change
We agree, seems silly that Dolby Vision is not supported on Samsung TVs, but it is on the company's phones...
at 4.2 meters a 4k 85" you wouldn't see the pixels either. You can sit much closer then that with a 4k display and still not see the pixels. And yes I have perfect vision.
I know what you mean. I tested out the 98in Q80C (I did a video on it) and I didn't' find its 4K screen to be too pixellated, even when reasonable close to it. Thanks for watching and your comment too!
Your obviously a salesman and not a TV reviewer, sure would have been great to see you test those expensive features...
We only had the TV for a few hours. We're reviewing it fully on GadgetGuy.com.au and we'll post a link to that soon. A few hours is not enough to test a TV's capabilities, only provide an overview of our first impressions, along with what's new for 2023 and anything else that we could spot. For what it's worth, we did not receive any form of compensation from Samsung and only created this video to bring you a first look at the new model.
@GadgetGuy Can I ask since I owned a qn800b 65" 2022 and the entire line was defective and scratched loudly on bass frequencies between 70-130hz (As admitted by samsung also in other lines like qn800b, qn95 qn90), if the 2023 model has the same issue?
I can't say that we noticed anything - but we didn't have long with the TV for the first look. Once of our reviewers on Gadgetguy.com.au is writing up an in-depth review now so it should be published shortly.
1st generation video game consoles (1972-1980)
Magnavox Odyssey
Atari Home Pong
Nintendo Color TV Game series
Coleco Telstar
2nd generation video game consoles (1976-1992)
Atari 2600/5200
Magnavox Odyssey²
Fairchild Channel F
Coleco vision
Vectrex
3rd generation video game consoles (1983-2003)
Famicom/Nintendo Entertainment System (NES)
Sega SG-1000
Sega Mark III/Master System
Atari 7800
4th generation video game consoles (1987-2004)
Super Nes
Sega Genesis/Mega Drive
TurboGrafx-16/PC Engine
Neo Geo AES
5th generation video game consoles (1993-2005)
PlayStation 1
Nintendo 64
Sega Saturn
Amiga CD32
Atari Jaguar
Panasonic 3D0 FZ-10
6th generation video game consoles (1998-2015)
PlayStation 2
Xbox
GameCube
Dreamcast
7th generation video game consoles (2005-2017)
Wii
Ps3
xbox 360
8th generation video game consoles (2012-)
ps4
Switch
xbox one
Wii U
9th generation video game consoles (2020-)
Playstation 5
Xbox Series X/S
Wow, when you put it that way, I should have said 9th gen! Thanks for sharing.
2:03 The motion on this tv looks really bad.
It might just be the playback via RUclips - it was pretty smooth when we were using it. It will go up to 144Hz, so good for fast motion objects, games, etc, plus it has VRR to smooth things out. Always a bit tricky to show a TV screen through RUclips and the monitor that you might be viewing it on!
Would I pay $10, 000 for a TV? No....But wait a few months and it will most likely drop in price..Like half???
True, the recommended retail price never really seems to happen once the TV hits the shop floor. The $10,995 price is adjusted for retail, and it will likely be less than that soon.
Got it for 6k 2 years interest free. I get Christmas checks every year it's perfect
6:32 lmfao wtf
poor guy has never played a game in his sad and boring product marketing life.
Haha well I was doing a pretty crappy job of pretending to play a game! I can say at least that I’ve been a gamer since I was a kid and have both PS5 and XBox Series X. Currently playing Destiny, finally finishing Horizon Zero Dawn, Witcher 3 in 60fps, and Synapse on my PSVR2…
Got to the end and realized I watched an entire review targeted toward Bill Gates...$$$. Oh well.
It's easy to forget how much this stuff costs - and just get excited about what it can do
He was pretending to play xbox
Yes, that's true! Although we did have one connected and I played it off camera.
One connect box kills the TV
What makes you say that? I think it’s great to move all the connections away from the back of the TV.
@@gadgetguytech some people dont want to get extra furniture to place the one connect box, it's extra wall mounting headache, plus if it breaks, and ur tv value sinks by then, its not worth replacing....some of the new tvs dont work without the one connect box...that's the major issue...it's not an option anymore, but forced on you
Ah, I see what you mean! If you have no where to put the One Connect Box, especially when wall mounting, it's a pain. You can buy an extra long cable as an option and place the box far away, but this probably isn't ideal. I recall that there may still be a few ports on the back of some Samsung TVs so you can plug in a few things directly, but it's not great if the TV won't work at all without the box at all, giving you no other options! Thanks very much for your comment.@@tajdidajman4889
I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as future proof. I bought a 75in Q800T back in 2020 to be future proof.
I now have a 3 year out of date 8K TV and I want this one.
Found the beta tester
Yes, true that 8K has been around for a while...and will probably be a while before 8K content is commonplace. I still think that having smaller pixels on a large screen is advantageous when it comes to smoothing out the image, as if you had 4K pixels, they'd be larger and nowhere to go in terms of image smoothing.
@Z Man Maybe but not my point. If I had bought an OLED in 2020, I would still want a QD OLED today.
@Z Man That is about what I thought. Going up to 85in would be a bigger impact than anything else. Thanks.
@Z Man We'll be checking out the new 77in Samsung OLED in a few weeks so keep an eye out for that one. It's going to be sweet
Nice review....11 months later...the QN900c is selling for $5499. That's a way better price!
Absolutely! Great value for this one now, and I'll be reviewing the 2024 model in a couple of weeks for the channel.
I dont see a point to buy 8k tv without DP2.1 120gb bandwidth or new hdmi variation. What is future proof ' about this tv Samsung??
True, 8K is limited by the current bandwidth of the HDMI 2.1 connector so the main way you'd get a full 8K signal on your screen is via Wi-Fi 6. There aren't many peripherals that you can connect to your TV that support 8K right now. Maybe the next generation of gaming consoles...but these won't be out for years.
How does this compare to LG's OLEDs? (C3/G3 & Z3)
We're looking at the Samsung 77in OLED next, and LG models coming in for eval soon!
We just posted the LG CS OLED here: www.gadgetguy.com.au/lg-cs-oled-tv-review-2022/
There's a 98" QN900C .
My gosh, what a lovely way to present a video. 10/10 from me, sir. Liked and subscribed and you cheered me up. 👋👋
Thank you so much for your kind words, you’ve made my day! If you have any suggestions or advice about how we can make things better, please don’t hesitate to let me know. Thanks for watching.
@@gadgetguytech oh honestly it was just great. Keep it this way and surely your channel will grow and grow. There's a lot of work in presenting but you make it look easy and comfortable for us to watch. 🙏
I'm really considering the 900b 85inch it's 5gs $1500 cheaper then it used to be OR the S95C 77 QUESTION which one would you get
I'm holding out for the S95C 77in OLED...
Despite all the "new" stuff it's the same as last year. You won't lose going with the 900b... You wouldnt recognize the difference.
@@gadgetguytech why hold out what's the difference
Question...The 900C is at a good discount right now. Buy now or wait a year for the 900D with the updated processer when it will eventually go on sale at a discount?
Good question. I think what it comes down to is how important the new AI upscaling tech is to you. I saw the 900D at the 2024 Consumer Electronics Show and the new tech really is a whole lot better than then 900C. However, if you don't watch a lot of old-school SD content, then you'll be just fine on the 900C and can take advantage of the savings. I was impressed with the 900C - it's got a great picture, so you won't be missing out on much, however the 900D is better at cleaning up poor-quality footage, and also has better features for sport mode that make fast moving objects like tennis balls clearer (using AI now). Thanks for writing in and watching the video!
I picked this television up in the 85inch model twice!!! This the best TV ever!
I am manifesting this for my home very soon.