I feel like Say really articulates the full volume of this sonata. Sure, he's fast, but he's measured in the right places. And I also love his dynamics. He captures the pace and the emotion of this sonata.
Extremamente maravilhoso !!! Pérola rara...Diamante bem lapidado , que DEUS colocou no UNIVERSO para enriquecer a musicalidade dos clássicos ....ERUDITO ao extremo !!! É para os seres humanos que tem oportunidade em ouvi-lo , UMA GLORIA !!!
At first the rhythm is all over the place, but then later on he seems to stay with the pulse somewhat better than at the beginning. I don't know why he does that. Maybe to some people musical expression means swinging your head and making faces, but really that's not it. There is much more to it. This is not a terrible performance, but he really is playing too much with the tempo. He is also making up his own dynamics at certain places. For example, making a crescendo at 06:05 *before* the cadenza starts is just plain wrong as the crescendo starts later. There are also quite a few wrong notes that don't need to be, because he has the necessary technique to pull it off without those wrong notes. If I have to say something that I like, then I like his coda. I think he plays the coda very well. On the other hand, his third movement of this sonata is a complete mess. You can find it on RUclips. He is technically a great pianist, but his interpretations are strange, to say the least.
Vatyan It's called "nonsense". Look at his performance of the third movement of this sonata. Playing "Presto" where it says "Allegro ma non troppo" and playing "Adagio" (slow) in the coda where it actually says "Presto" (fast) has *nothing* to do with interpretation. It's simply incorrect playing. Also in this first movement, playing a crescendo where there isn't any crescendo written in the score is simply *wrong*. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with interpretation. Needless to say, the wrong notes - and there are quite a few of them - don't have much to do with interpretation either. Unfortunately, many people will watch these kinds of performances in awe, simply because he is making faces and weird gestures.
BapakJakob Fazıl Say is a well respected composer and musician. He is known to mess with rhythm. If you listen to his version of Turkish March, you'll see. Still, I can't argue with you, as my music theory doesn't seem to be on par with yours. However I'll say that music depends on taste. I like his versions too.
Vatyan We shouldn't mix apples and oranges, because his version of Turkish March is something that *he* created. He created a variation of it, and he is not performing it as "Rondo alla Turca", but instead he's performing it as his own variation. I respect that. However, in this case we're not talking about his variation of the Appassionata. Just because someone writes "this is a variation" doesn't make it so. He obviously performed the sonata at the recital, and didn't perform a variation of it. His performance of the first movement is acceptable, but what he does to the third movement is catastrophical. "Extremely fast" where it should be "fast but not too much", and "very slow" where it's supposed to be "fast" just doesn't work. It ruins the piece. It doesn't have any clarity because so many notes are "swallowed". I'm talking about the third movement in particular. So many wrong notes, so much pedal in order to cheat/cover up the wrong notes, and overall a complete mess. It's exactly because he is a well respected composer that he "gets away with it". If he was just a regular piano student and he performed the third movement of the Appassionata like he does in the RUclips video, he would never get away with it. I don't know if you play piano, but I do, and I've played the Appassionata. It is actually *easier* to play the third movement much faster. Why? Because you can cheat in different ways. By using pedal and playing it extremely fast, a huge percentage of notes will not be clear, and you can get away with many mistakes. However playing it slower is much more tough, because it requires so much more control and evenness in the fingers. He is not a bad piano player - far from it. It's just that his interpretations are not only strange, but also *wrong*. He is not interpreting - he is changing that what is written. He is allowing himself too much. If he does that and calls it a variation, then I have no problem. But if he says he is interpreting the original score, then I do have a problem, because he's doing it wrong. He seems to have great technique, but for some reason uses it the wrong way. Let's be honest. This is not jazz. This is a Beethoven Sonata.
Want to cry. Play every note correctly before you make crazy fast plz. This is completely rage but not "passionate". Barely can find Beethoven's master composing melody in it. You teared the piece.
Wonderful!...for Saythoven
I feel like Say really articulates the full volume of this sonata. Sure, he's fast, but he's measured in the right places. And I also love his dynamics. He captures the pace and the emotion of this sonata.
beautiful, I wish I had practiced more in my youth.
Extremamente maravilhoso !!! Pérola rara...Diamante bem lapidado , que DEUS colocou no UNIVERSO para enriquecer a musicalidade dos clássicos ....ERUDITO ao extremo !!! É para os seres humanos que tem oportunidade em ouvi-lo , UMA GLORIA !!!
Maravilloso!!!
Nicolas Cage is such a good player
hahahaha !! i thought the same : D
very very passionate.
cok piyano dinledim ama fazil cok baska bir duygusu var, belki piyano calmiyordur :) ucuyor resmen
At first the rhythm is all over the place, but then later on he seems to stay with the pulse somewhat better than at the beginning. I don't know why he does that. Maybe to some people musical expression means swinging your head and making faces, but really that's not it. There is much more to it. This is not a terrible performance, but he really is playing too much with the tempo. He is also making up his own dynamics at certain places. For example, making a crescendo at 06:05 *before* the cadenza starts is just plain wrong as the crescendo starts later. There are also quite a few wrong notes that don't need to be, because he has the necessary technique to pull it off without those wrong notes. If I have to say something that I like, then I like his coda. I think he plays the coda very well. On the other hand, his third movement of this sonata is a complete mess. You can find it on RUclips. He is technically a great pianist, but his interpretations are strange, to say the least.
It's called "interpretation".
Vatyan It's called "nonsense". Look at his performance of the third movement of this sonata. Playing "Presto" where it says "Allegro ma non troppo" and playing "Adagio" (slow) in the coda where it actually says "Presto" (fast) has *nothing* to do with interpretation. It's simply incorrect playing. Also in this first movement, playing a crescendo where there isn't any crescendo written in the score is simply *wrong*. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with interpretation. Needless to say, the wrong notes - and there are quite a few of them - don't have much to do with interpretation either. Unfortunately, many people will watch these kinds of performances in awe, simply because he is making faces and weird gestures.
BapakJakob Fazıl Say is a well respected composer and musician. He is known to mess with rhythm. If you listen to his version of Turkish March, you'll see. Still, I can't argue with you, as my music theory doesn't seem to be on par with yours. However I'll say that music depends on taste. I like his versions too.
Vatyan We shouldn't mix apples and oranges, because his version of Turkish March is something that *he* created. He created a variation of it, and he is not performing it as "Rondo alla Turca", but instead he's performing it as his own variation. I respect that. However, in this case we're not talking about his variation of the Appassionata. Just because someone writes "this is a variation" doesn't make it so. He obviously performed the sonata at the recital, and didn't perform a variation of it. His performance of the first movement is acceptable, but what he does to the third movement is catastrophical. "Extremely fast" where it should be "fast but not too much", and "very slow" where it's supposed to be "fast" just doesn't work. It ruins the piece. It doesn't have any clarity because so many notes are "swallowed". I'm talking about the third movement in particular. So many wrong notes, so much pedal in order to cheat/cover up the wrong notes, and overall a complete mess. It's exactly because he is a well respected composer that he "gets away with it". If he was just a regular piano student and he performed the third movement of the Appassionata like he does in the RUclips video, he would never get away with it. I don't know if you play piano, but I do, and I've played the Appassionata. It is actually *easier* to play the third movement much faster. Why? Because you can cheat in different ways. By using pedal and playing it extremely fast, a huge percentage of notes will not be clear, and you can get away with many mistakes. However playing it slower is much more tough, because it requires so much more control and evenness in the fingers. He is not a bad piano player - far from it. It's just that his interpretations are not only strange, but also *wrong*. He is not interpreting - he is changing that what is written. He is allowing himself too much. If he does that and calls it a variation, then I have no problem. But if he says he is interpreting the original score, then I do have a problem, because he's doing it wrong. He seems to have great technique, but for some reason uses it the wrong way. Let's be honest. This is not jazz. This is a Beethoven Sonata.
BapakJakob ok boomer
Fazil is the best to beethoven!
religion is the wizard a priest is the wand.
Os dejo la versión de Sergei Yerokhin
ruclips.net/video/wHxsKtrptwk/видео.html
If this wand tells absurdity like certain books, you can also hate it...
We love Fazil Say. I hate religions.
Kusursuz.....Fazılcım sen çal abi
he 5 arseholes who thumbed this down would rather watch Glenn Gould talking about animals :P
Want to cry. Play every note correctly before you make crazy fast plz. This is completely rage but not "passionate". Barely can find Beethoven's master composing melody in it. You teared the piece.
I love Japan and Turkey. I hate Russia.
Dont do that...hate is reserved by the religion...