@@MachRacer4 I've done the math. It's more. You have to account for the headwind and the lack of resistance due to the small contact patch on the railhead. It's closer to 35 hp added and 75 more rpm and 80 foot pounds of torque. It's like a turbocharger that fits into convenient and stylish headgear!
More like 18 wheeler tailgating a school bus on wet roads... I was way over on my guess for fatalities thankfully. 6 cars demolished... 20 people per sleeper, 3 sleepers destroyed, plus the dining car, pullman and coaches, and only 50 people died? They had angels working overtime that night.
@@leechowning2712ehh, more like a Brinks truck following a transit van. Brinks’ rigs are rolling bank vaults. School buses are still steel frame, transit vans are fibreglass on aluminium.
what if the next 3/4 Show episode was 3/4 of an hour long- it is not a snow story, it is a *FOG* story 17:18 didn't most of the old Pullmans also have concrete flo- oh wait *wooden superstructure* dangit
This is definitely my favorite type of content on this channel, no questions asked. keep it going lads, and someday I hope to see LMM as a guest here, with all his British properness.
My great grandpa died during this accident. He taken the job because my great grandma thought his previous job was too dangerous. He was a waiter on the rear of the first train. My great grandparents moved to California from Louisiana because of the jobs available during the war.
I have lived all my life where I can see out to the crash site. I was 13 mos. old when this happened. Now I'm going to brush up on my local history. Thanks!
Being from and living in Utah. This is a decently well known story due to it being one of the worst train wrecks in Utah. As soon as I saw Bagley I know how bad this episode was going to go. And yes Mark the salt lake is just that weird. wait till you learn of the saltair that had a train that ran to it. That place was nuts
Well, there's really 3 things Utah is known for in Railroading and only 1 of them is "universally" well known. Promontory Point is the universally known fact. After that it's the Uintah Mallet abomination. Last is this event.
Earlier on 3/4 show: "we're not doing this story because it's too depressing" Today on 3/4 show: "so how many people do you think died in the FIRST car that got hit?"
This episode ended up feeling almost like a halfway point between Citation Needed and Well There's Your Problem, explaining some of the details about how the incident happened. And I am 100% here for it!
2:35 "Citrus Malfunction" Citrus proceeds to malfunction. Citrus then proceeds to function properly from behind the camera. It's a citrus circus on the 3/4 Show.
Leighton’s lime bowl fail is comedy gold, not many other things could so succinctly and perfectly capture the essence of the So enjoy this content and learning railroad lore, can’t wait for season 5!
Almost similar to the Camp Hill PA wreck in 1856, two sections followed too close, all wood cars, many died and the town became Ambler after a quaker woman who worked with no rest to help those in the wreck
Thanks for the mini history lessons during some of these episodes! I googled to look at some of the photos and it's absolutely so scary; can't even begin to imagine. Also I love that you guys can have so much fun together with these episodes.
I mean, being from and living in Utah (namely the Salt Lake Valley), and having seen old photos of the bridge rails that went across the GSL, it's more or less of the complacency of there just being 1 bridge with 1 track or 1 bridge, 2 tracks. The hindsight of, "So where do trains go when things go wrong out there?" never occurred to anyone until things went wrong. I will say that even though they probably couldn't get much in the form of alcohol, getting stranded in the Salt Lake Valley isn't a terrible thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mormons and what not, but you do realize how much they contribute to disaster relief and how fast they're sending stuff. If you're in need and in their "back yard", they're even quicker. Just compare where that is to 100 miles either direction East/West from Ogden. It's the difference between putting up with Mormons and being stranded in the middle of the Uintah's to the East or out in Nevada to the West.
I don't think "fun story" is what I'd have called it, but certainly interesting. Basically, that's why timetable separation and such didn't catch on a lot over here. I'm a modern day railwayman, not a historian, so I'm sure to miss details and aspects, but by and large, to my knowledge we were heavily block based from very early on. With "block" meaning a section of track (be it main line, be it station) that can only be occupied by one train at the same time, limited usually by track signals (but also other systems are/were in use like tokens, radio, etc).
We are the same way here; save for sections. Sections mean it's the same "train", as discussed in the video you referenced in another comment. These days blocks are absolute, which is better, and like you guys have always been. But at the time of this wreck... Nope.
So i actually recently experienced the fog in that general area of the lake this year with high winds and yep it’s pretty much near impossible seeing anything. Not fun I can only imagine what it was like back then.
How the hell do you have fog on a landlocked state like I'm from Lubec Maine and we get fog all the time I had no idea them idiots that far inland would actually have fog
The lake, and the desert air. I live not far from Mark, but into the plains... and we have 30-40 degree shifts from daytime max to nighttime minimum. The salt flats, even in mid winter, will get up to low 60s and evaporate off part of the lake through the day... and then at night it recondenses. Something that would have happened that neither the story had, not any of the guys remembered, is that the rails would have cooled faster and caused them to condense water onto them... instant hydro-effects when section 2 went to full reverse.
As mentioned above, “End of the line”, an original by Burnham & Run from the upcoming game “Century of Steam” ruclips.net/video/wjeh1OYgaDk/видео.htmlsi=DI00ohfA2kFTFy1w
I love the Denver & Rio grande western railroad I wish they could bring back the Denver and rio Grande western mallet locomotives like the challengers I wish they would scraped does mallet locomotives and I love the Donald duck voice I seen a Donald duck short film that Donald duck had his own back yard railroad with a Casey Jones 4-4-0 American type locomotive with a baggage mail car and a Flatcar with the chip and deal Tree and a lovely red caboose in Donald duck his own back yard railroad in the short film on disney plus and Donald duck became a world war soldier in the fight of Japan and Japanese Marines and the Navy vs us Americas ww2 military and the railroad had to beat the Japanese Marines and Navy and the railroaders of the United States have to work hard to beat the Japanese Marines and Navy on the march and they made lots of railroaders in world war 2 films during in world war 2 America's railroaders work hard to beat the Japanese Marines and Navy on the march🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚅🚅🚅🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🛩🛩🛩🛩✈✈✈✈✈✈🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈✈✈✈🛩🛩🛩🛩🚢🚢🚢🚢🚢🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳vs🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚝🚝🚝🚝🚊🚊🚊🚉🚉🚉🚈🚈🚈🚇🚇🚇🚇🚆🚆🚆🚆🚅🚅🚅🚅🚄🚄🚄🚄🛩🛩🛩✈✈🛩🛩✈🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚢🚢🚢🚢🚢🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💥💥💥💥💨💨💨💨💨💨💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫
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I love how the intro has the video of Leighton on the speeder wearing the propellor beanie.
Scientifically proven to make you faster!
@@PowerTrain611 If memory serves, it adds 25HP, and another 50 RPM to the motor and another 50 ft/pounds of torque.
@@MachRacer4 I've done the math. It's more. You have to account for the headwind and the lack of resistance due to the small contact patch on the railhead. It's closer to 35 hp added and 75 more rpm and 80 foot pounds of torque. It's like a turbocharger that fits into convenient and stylish headgear!
@@PowerTrain611Don't forget the bell for added tractive effect
The railroad equivalent of an 18 wheeler tailgating a small car… yeah
Leighton’s lime bowl fail is the most hilarious thing I have ever seen
More like 18 wheeler tailgating a school bus on wet roads... I was way over on my guess for fatalities thankfully. 6 cars demolished... 20 people per sleeper, 3 sleepers destroyed, plus the dining car, pullman and coaches, and only 50 people died? They had angels working overtime that night.
@@leechowning2712ehh, more like a Brinks truck following a transit van. Brinks’ rigs are rolling bank vaults. School buses are still steel frame, transit vans are fibreglass on aluminium.
"At least the wall is already green."
what if the next 3/4 Show episode was 3/4 of an hour long-
it is not a snow story, it is a *FOG* story
17:18 didn't most of the old Pullmans also have concrete flo- oh wait *wooden superstructure* dangit
This is definitely my favorite type of content on this channel, no questions asked. keep it going lads, and someday I hope to see LMM as a guest here, with all his British properness.
Love how Joel is doing a Donald Duck impression on his (Donald's) 90th birthday
When Leighton missed his head with the limes, I couldn’t stop laughing 😂
I´ve got something not so related: The ÖBB managed to crash into cows and other forms of cattle (but mostly cows) more than three times.
My great grandpa died during this accident. He taken the job because my great grandma thought his previous job was too dangerous. He was a waiter on the rear of the first train. My great grandparents moved to California from Louisiana because of the jobs available during the war.
I have lived all my life where I can see out to the crash site. I was 13 mos. old when this happened. Now I'm going to brush up on my local history. Thanks!
The Southern Pacific locomotives involved were 1st section S.P. GS-3 No. 4425. Second section S.P. MT-4 No 4361.
Cheers for the details, mate!
Being from and living in Utah. This is a decently well known story due to it being one of the worst train wrecks in Utah. As soon as I saw Bagley I know how bad this episode was going to go.
And yes Mark the salt lake is just that weird. wait till you learn of the saltair that had a train that ran to it. That place was nuts
Well, there's really 3 things Utah is known for in Railroading and only 1 of them is "universally" well known. Promontory Point is the universally known fact. After that it's the Uintah Mallet abomination. Last is this event.
@@steeljawX we don't talk about that mallet X'D
The song 'A foggy morning dew' fits this episode very well
Could you link that? I can't seem to find it.
Earlier on 3/4 show: "we're not doing this story because it's too depressing"
Today on 3/4 show: "so how many people do you think died in the FIRST car that got hit?"
Good season. As usual the missing 1/4 is a fine choice for the spot. Can't wait to see who is next seasons v̶i̶c̶t̶i̶m̶ guest.
Very nice that I’m not the only one who was interested in looking into this wreck.
This episode ended up feeling almost like a halfway point between Citation Needed and Well There's Your Problem, explaining some of the details about how the incident happened.
And I am 100% here for it!
2:35
"Citrus Malfunction"
Citrus proceeds to malfunction.
Citrus then proceeds to function properly from behind the camera.
It's a citrus circus on the 3/4 Show.
We had this issue on the NSSR. Thankfully we didn't collide!
Leighton’s lime bowl fail is comedy gold, not many other things could so succinctly and perfectly capture the essence of the
So enjoy this content and learning railroad lore, can’t wait for season 5!
Almost similar to the Camp Hill PA wreck in 1856, two sections followed too close, all wood cars, many died and the town became Ambler after a quaker woman who worked with no rest to help those in the wreck
as usual the four stooges never fail to entertain
Yeah, because of the fog, they really mist that signal there.
*throws limes*
Lime this man!
Absolutely love more of Citation Needed. Probably one of my favorite episode types
Currently writing a song about this wreck, funny it would end up becoming a video
Leighton missing all the limes was so funny for now reason.
Thanks for the mini history lessons during some of these episodes! I googled to look at some of the photos and it's absolutely so scary; can't even begin to imagine. Also I love that you guys can have so much fun together with these episodes.
I look forward to Season 5 of the 4/4 show. Can't happen too soon.
ES&D accordion
I love it when ya'll play Citation Needed sm
Can you do a video on PTC and what the up/downsides are?
I didn't know that Hyce was into Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions type content.
2:37 what you miss!? How could you miss he was 3 feet in front of you
I mean, being from and living in Utah (namely the Salt Lake Valley), and having seen old photos of the bridge rails that went across the GSL, it's more or less of the complacency of there just being 1 bridge with 1 track or 1 bridge, 2 tracks. The hindsight of, "So where do trains go when things go wrong out there?" never occurred to anyone until things went wrong. I will say that even though they probably couldn't get much in the form of alcohol, getting stranded in the Salt Lake Valley isn't a terrible thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mormons and what not, but you do realize how much they contribute to disaster relief and how fast they're sending stuff. If you're in need and in their "back yard", they're even quicker. Just compare where that is to 100 miles either direction East/West from Ogden. It's the difference between putting up with Mormons and being stranded in the middle of the Uintah's to the East or out in Nevada to the West.
holy one of those stories you're glad happened in the past
LOVE the cast-iron cookware in the background.
I have a VHS tape with small portions of footage of the SP incident from last time mentioning the train stuck in the snow.
Please more SP!
1:18
You think getting a burnt shake is bad?
He turnt my Krabby Patty into a fried boot!
I don't think "fun story" is what I'd have called it, but certainly interesting. Basically, that's why timetable separation and such didn't catch on a lot over here. I'm a modern day railwayman, not a historian, so I'm sure to miss details and aspects, but by and large, to my knowledge we were heavily block based from very early on. With "block" meaning a section of track (be it main line, be it station) that can only be occupied by one train at the same time, limited usually by track signals (but also other systems are/were in use like tokens, radio, etc).
We are the same way here; save for sections. Sections mean it's the same "train", as discussed in the video you referenced in another comment. These days blocks are absolute, which is better, and like you guys have always been. But at the time of this wreck... Nope.
Yayyyy another 3/4 show!!!
So i actually recently experienced the fog in that general area of the lake this year with high winds and yep it’s pretty much near impossible seeing anything. Not fun I can only imagine what it was like back then.
So we've gone from a march time signature, to the happy birthday time sig, to common time... fascinating
"He's gonna get a chocolate shake after, cause he's an adult!" Are you sure? lol
If I had been there and seen that wreck happen, I'd be traumatized.
That dude here. She said hi with a vengeance 😂
I just saw the southern 4501 steam engine and the 630 steam engine at the Tennessee valley railroad museum
Oddly enough the UP #844 was only a few days old in the era of this story
OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS INTRO
Ugh, that's a horrible one though GN's Wellington Disaster was still worse. Also...epic with the limes there, Leighton.
i swear RUclips hid this video from me bc i am just finding it 😭
Me too
27:20 i thought your microwave oven went off! XD
These never fail to make me laugh like an idiot
Petition to have eric on the next season.
YAY IM BACK 🎉🎉🎉 btw that was a funny yet tame episode of the 3/4 show 😂😂
Also leighton shenanigans with L I M E and C I T R U S
1:48 yall a quackers.
The top gear ripoff was a shock and hilarious as someone who loves Top Gear myself
I love these!!!
Keep it up I love this show :D
How the hell do you have fog on a landlocked state like I'm from Lubec Maine and we get fog all the time I had no idea them idiots that far inland would actually have fog
The lake, and the desert air. I live not far from Mark, but into the plains... and we have 30-40 degree shifts from daytime max to nighttime minimum. The salt flats, even in mid winter, will get up to low 60s and evaporate off part of the lake through the day... and then at night it recondenses.
Something that would have happened that neither the story had, not any of the guys remembered, is that the rails would have cooled faster and caused them to condense water onto them... instant hydro-effects when section 2 went to full reverse.
Fog happens everywhere! Less so out here than on the coast, but moisture do like to be in the air...
Look up the 7, and yes that is a seven, different types of fog. Gave me a headache to try and learn all of them for my PSEL license.
3:10 THEY WERE GREEN!!!!!!!!!
Carl!!!! It's soup 🍲 time
2:36 Fallout 1/2 critical miss be like
I just watched a video on the history of the great salt lake bridge thing that was just uh that didn't so lets add this to it.
I'm DR.Pepper to his Coca-Cola" so Leighton is better got it
IIATS or cab signaling would have helped here but SP was too cheap to install that.
Was giggling at .ish every time it came up
James McDonald was the engineer he was only 64 years old
Season 5?
Lose of points for not editing bubbles with a kitty and coke bottle glasses at any point this season otherwise fantabulous as usual
That's not why he's called bubbles.
@@Hyce777 well now we need the story behind bubbles then
What is the name of the end credits song
"End of the Line." It's an original.
As mentioned above, “End of the line”, an original by Burnham & Run from the upcoming game “Century of Steam”
ruclips.net/video/wjeh1OYgaDk/видео.htmlsi=DI00ohfA2kFTFy1w
@@Hyce777 thanks, I love watching your videos!!!
i think mark you should haf won this won
Oh boy
first some guy's chick, now hyce's house
Wat
Things hit with poorly thrown limes
Hi!
Cheese
Hello
41 min wow
I live in salt lake city
Good lord
1 minute
(i didn't know what to say)
Shit! I ran out of stories.
I love the Denver & Rio grande western railroad I wish they could bring back the Denver and rio Grande western mallet locomotives like the challengers I wish they would scraped does mallet locomotives and I love the Donald duck voice I seen a Donald duck short film that Donald duck had his own back yard railroad with a Casey Jones 4-4-0 American type locomotive with a baggage mail car and a Flatcar with the chip and deal Tree and a lovely red caboose in Donald duck his own back yard railroad in the short film on disney plus and Donald duck became a world war soldier in the fight of Japan and Japanese Marines and the Navy vs us Americas ww2 military and the railroad had to beat the Japanese Marines and Navy and the railroaders of the United States have to work hard to beat the Japanese Marines and Navy on the march and they made lots of railroaders in world war 2 films during in world war 2 America's railroaders work hard to beat the Japanese Marines and Navy on the march🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚅🚅🚅🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🛩🛩🛩🛩✈✈✈✈✈✈🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀✈✈✈✈🛩🛩🛩🛩🚢🚢🚢🚢🚢🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳vs🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🗾🚂🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋🚝🚝🚝🚝🚊🚊🚊🚉🚉🚉🚈🚈🚈🚇🚇🚇🚇🚆🚆🚆🚆🚅🚅🚅🚅🚄🚄🚄🚄🛩🛩🛩✈✈🛩🛩✈🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚢🚢🚢🚢🚢🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💥💥💥💥💨💨💨💨💨💨💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣💣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫🌫
holy emoji's batman
The infantile behavior made this unwatchable
Who asked?