Chattanooga Plow Company No. 11 Cane Mill - Disassembly and Evaluation

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024

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  • @avoirdupois1
    @avoirdupois1 Год назад

    I've got a fever, and the cure is more CANE MILLS! I enjoy watching Keith fix up these devices.

  • @SciPunk215
    @SciPunk215 Год назад +2

    Keith... you have to focus. FOCUS !!!
    You have priorities. I'm talking about ice cream churns. ICE CREAM !!!
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @paulkinzer7661
    @paulkinzer7661 Год назад +9

    There's so much history in these humble, elegant cane mills. I can see why folks want them. Getting them back into like-new condition is a pleasure to watch.

  • @51ubetcha
    @51ubetcha Год назад +8

    Even with all the cane mills you have shown being rebuilt, I still enjoy watching them given new life.

  • @IslandHermit
    @IslandHermit Год назад +2

    You're going to become known as "Sugarcane Keith"!

  • @davidgagnon2849
    @davidgagnon2849 Год назад

    This looks like a much nicer mill than the last batch of them that you restored.

  • @mickestahl6178
    @mickestahl6178 Год назад

    Keith Rucker, the cane mill man 2023.. :D You do a fantastic work and I love to see all your videos. Love from the far away Sweden.. Micke

  • @markmartins-do3lc
    @markmartins-do3lc Год назад +3

    Methodical, professional, thoroughly impressive job, Keith. You're bringing an important chapter of southern history back to life in the Carolina community this Mill once served. Thank you for your dedication to restoring these vintage machines.

  • @melshea2276
    @melshea2276 Год назад +2

    Good Morning Georgia 😊

  • @robertlevine2152
    @robertlevine2152 Год назад +1

    Keith,
    You are the King of Cane (mills).
    Bob

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Год назад

    8000lb mill, you getting into the good stuff now!

  • @walterplummer3808
    @walterplummer3808 Год назад +2

    Wow! That one is in rough shape. Good luck. Thanks

  • @jackpledger8118
    @jackpledger8118 Год назад +5

    Interesting piece of historical machinery. I grew up in the 50's and 60's just 35 miles south of Chattanooga, TN in a small Georgia village and never knew about Chattanooga Plow Company. I remember seeing the mules turning the sorghum mills on small family farms each fall but didn't know these mill were made so close to home. I always learn something watching your channel.

  • @smitm108
    @smitm108 Год назад +5

    Keith Rucker, the “Cane Mill Whisperer” …

  • @585nick
    @585nick Год назад +2

    Excited to see the flat belt powered cane mill when I started the video i was thinking about what a (newer) cane mill would look like!

  • @hunterjames3167
    @hunterjames3167 Год назад

    Your making me want to get my old no 11 out and fix her up!!

  • @ydonl
    @ydonl Год назад +2

    That was fun! I went to look for current (new) cane mill offerings, and of course the design has changed a lot. It looks like they're generally turned horizontal these days. The simpler ones look like a big pasta maker, and then some bigger, more complex versions. None of them come with a mule, however. :-)

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray Год назад

    You're becoming the Cane Mill Guy!! Always fun to see one of these.

  • @mdlanor5414
    @mdlanor5414 Год назад +3

    You have repaired quite a few Sugar Cane Mills . Cleaning, Brazing when necessary, new hardware and pour new Babbitt. The Babbitt appears to be challenging. Preventing the molten Babbitt from leaking when pouring it. As always anything you repair, ends up working good as new or better than new.

  • @halsnyder296
    @halsnyder296 Год назад

    Another one? With all do respect I can’t wait to watch what you do! That commercial one sounds really interesting!

  • @truckguy6666
    @truckguy6666 Год назад

    Some of the most original content you'll find on youtube when it comes to old machinery and teardown/repairs... At least that I have seen! Everyone's got a lathe and can make chips. But can you pour babbitt and roll sugar cane? You really should have more subscribers.

  • @jockbeems4798
    @jockbeems4798 Год назад

    Like it or not Keith, you have become the cane mill repair man for the southeast United States.

    • @DAKOTANSHELBY
      @DAKOTANSHELBY Год назад

      Keith can change his channel name to "The Cane Mill Channel". ; )

  • @paulcooper2897
    @paulcooper2897 Год назад

    Woohoo! Rusty iron getting taken apart and restored!
    Sadly, up here in Canada, rusty usually means a solid block of rust in the vague shape of the item. I'm rather jealous of the "ease" that "rusty" things come apart down in the southern states.
    Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

  • @michaelkoch2109
    @michaelkoch2109 Год назад

    I admire your patience and skills! 👏👍💪🛠😎
    Best regards from Dresden! 🇩🇪❤🇺🇸

  • @Bigrignohio
    @Bigrignohio Год назад +1

    Oooh, brings back memories of hitting the steam engine shows with my grandparents. Many had a similar machine being demonstrated.

  • @utkb6745
    @utkb6745 Год назад

    Just watched Eric's (H.T.R) content on the vertical steam engine. I'm an avid fan and now I've came across your shop and I'm glad to be able to expand my horizons with another machining/mechanics walk through subscription! Thank you for the knowledge and God Bless

  • @andrewstoll4548
    @andrewstoll4548 Год назад +1

    Ohhh Another one. I love seeing these being restored. Always interesting. I'll be catching the whole process.

  • @kevinreardon2558
    @kevinreardon2558 Год назад

    I'm so glad to see you are Able to do these Cane mill rebuilds . I enjoy your videos a Lot.

  • @johnvanantwerp2791
    @johnvanantwerp2791 Год назад

    Sorghum is still grown today, in Illinois at least, for use in making syrup--not so much as silage any more. So are sugar beets. I've noticed beet sugar is more common in grocery stores now. The house I grew up in started life as a sugar beet cookery in the 1820s...

  • @RicochetRichard
    @RicochetRichard Год назад

    I have lived in Chattanooga for 70+ years and never heard about Chattanooga Plow Co!

  • @dracoinvictus
    @dracoinvictus Год назад

    Another great video, Keith! It's always fascinating to see the inner workings of these old machines, and your explanations and demonstrations make it easy to follow along. Your attention to detail during the teardown process is impressive, and I'm excited to see the progress you'll make in the restoration. Thanks for sharing your expertise with us!

  • @4speed3pedals
    @4speed3pedals Год назад

    Keith, I see you using CRC Knock'er Loose. Have you ever tried a product called Free. I had a hinge on my Jeep Wrangler tailgate and I tried oil, Marvel Mystery Oil, a couple different rust penetrants (generic, Sea Foam Deep Creep, others) and then purchased a product called Free. It was a few months since any applications so it was not the other stuff doing the job as the vehicle is parked outdoors all the time. Free broke free the hings in a few minutes, tailgate worked easy and no noise. It was so bad that I thought one day the hinge was going to break off. It was not cheap but nothing good ever is. If you try it, be cool to see what success you get in a video.

  • @preiter20
    @preiter20 Год назад

    Keith, you look like you are losing weight. I hope your health continues to be good. I enjoy these restorations.

  • @hudson8865
    @hudson8865 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍

  • @WilliamTMusil
    @WilliamTMusil Год назад

    Hiya Keith

  • @roylucas1027
    @roylucas1027 Год назад +2

    Very interesting video. Living up north I never knew such things existed.

  • @jerryjohns7358
    @jerryjohns7358 Год назад

    Keith, thanks for these videos. I have one just like it. I’m missing the shrouds and plates that cover the top and bottom bushing cups for the two small rollers. I noticed you may have similar issues with the same items. Could I get them when you get yours cast?

  • @kip9668
    @kip9668 Год назад

    Keith, love your videos, have learned alot from you. Sorry, kinda off topic, but could you give a shout to Andy Rawls, he could really use your expertise

  • @mark2278
    @mark2278 Год назад +2

    If you’ve seen one of these cane mill rehabs… How about something new - scraping in some ways maybe?

  • @thirzapeevey2395
    @thirzapeevey2395 Год назад

    Really cool to see. As many of these as are being sent to you, it seems there is a business opportunity for some enterprising young person. What is the status of the stoker engine? Will we see that moving forward soon?

  • @cyrilhudak4568
    @cyrilhudak4568 Год назад +3

    If I remember correctly, Keith had a friend that was experimenting with cast nylon bearings for his cane mills. I wonder how that worked out for him?

  • @tedmiles2110
    @tedmiles2110 Год назад

    Will you give your mill to the Agricultural Museum? So they can have another demonstration? You seem to be the national expert on southern cane mills! TM long time watcher

  • @richardsurber8226
    @richardsurber8226 Год назад

    Most of these cane mills are interesting even when they're not rebuildable candidate. Thanks KR

  • @johanjanssens4530
    @johanjanssens4530 Год назад

    If it is mule-powered it is called "un trapiche" in Spanish. See the "Rogaciano" song.

  • @marcelpost4052
    @marcelpost4052 Год назад +1

    This is quickly becoming the sugarcane mill channel.. 🙂

  • @darkhorsegarage9623
    @darkhorsegarage9623 Год назад +1

    It may be another Cain mill. But it has many new challenges. The bent shaft is interesting and converting the bearings. Making new castings. Looking forward to the end results.

  • @eastcoastwatch672
    @eastcoastwatch672 Год назад

    Keith, what ever happened to the stoker engine that you & Adam tried to repair?

  • @slyfox7429
    @slyfox7429 Год назад

    I have a question. I know you have a tub with about 40 gallons of Evapo- rust. Why didn't you dunk the assembly -sans rollers for about 3 days and those bearings would have fallen out

  • @cropsey7
    @cropsey7 Год назад

    21:13 you have mosquitos already down there? Still cold in NYC.

  • @singerap
    @singerap Год назад

    A lesson to you Keith, never get good at something you don't want to keep doing. This is what, your 27th cane mill.

  • @garybrenner6236
    @garybrenner6236 Год назад +1

    The shaft probably got bent when the mule fell down from exhaustion!

    • @ruben_balea
      @ruben_balea Год назад

      Or when they got their first tractor and replaced the mule with the drawbar 🤣

  • @patamos7019
    @patamos7019 Год назад

    Would those rollers be good candidates for spray welding or is there too much damage and would require too much build up?

  • @johnfriend240
    @johnfriend240 Год назад

    Would it be easier for the large roller to cut the shaft ends off and bore out for a new shaft? Straightening and welding up the pits and turning back down seems a lot more trouble...

  • @aaronbaird3533
    @aaronbaird3533 Год назад

    Keith, how are the rollers attached to the shafts? If they're just shrunk on, it seems to me that it would be quicker and easier to just replace them, rather than all the work of building up and turning.

  • @W4BIN
    @W4BIN Год назад +1

    MIC rubbing on mill, MIC at the top of the bib will still work, test it. Ron W4BIN

  • @m9ovich785
    @m9ovich785 Год назад +1

    Thanks Keith.
    Can You move Your Mic Higher up on Your Apron ?
    Voice Audio is low and You keep bumping into objects with it.
    Mike M.

  • @garys9694
    @garys9694 Год назад

    Do you mean on the back burner as the Diresta saw is? I am originally from Northern Ohio, I remember some friends of my family grew sorghum in a small plot (probably about 5 acres). I don't remember seeing this type of machine in use.

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 Год назад +1

    Great video Keith, keep'um coming..

  • @iangriffiths9840
    @iangriffiths9840 Год назад

    Wondered if it may be an idea to drill a small hole in the bottom of the bearing cups to allow water to drain away.

  • @danluther9078
    @danluther9078 Год назад

    Whew -- looks like Windy Hill Foundry is about to get some business...

  • @Cavemannspace
    @Cavemannspace Год назад

    OK, when I saw this project I thought that early on you would take that over to your Evaporust vat and just soak the whole thing over night after maybe getting a little rust off of it. Would soaking it in Evaporust before disassembly necessarily be a bad idea?

  • @Sizukun1
    @Sizukun1 Год назад +1

    I know its probably the wrong way to do it, but what would happen if you just put this entire thing into your tank of Evaporust and let it sit for a few days? Would they be much easier to take apart and ready to repair quicker?

    • @MrKotBonifacy
      @MrKotBonifacy Год назад

      The problem is, the acid (citric acid is the magic stuff in the evaporust, which is just a fancy way of selling regular citric acid at a premium price), so the acid would be used up quickly in semi-closed spaces with this amount of rust, and couldn't be "replaced" where it'd be needed - so not much action, just sitting there, I guess.
      To remove this much of rust I'd rather use phosphoric acid (another, much more effective and tad more aggressive rust remover), put this whole thingy into some plastic tray, add poured the acid all over it, but then again it'll be an overkill of sort or "solution in a search of a problem". The way Keith did it was the most optimal way IMO.

  • @MrKotBonifacy
    @MrKotBonifacy Год назад

    About the bent shaft of the large roll - wouldn't it be easier to press it out and make new one?

  • @robertdement7518
    @robertdement7518 Год назад +1

    Keith I have a question about the Babbitt material your using.
    Is it food safe?

    • @MrKotBonifacy
      @MrKotBonifacy Год назад

      I'm not Keith but I'll drop my twopence here anyway, since I know the answer and this is my way of helping authors (Keith in this case here) to deal with the overwhelming number of comments.
      Short answer - well, that depends WHICH specific babbit alloy you gonna use (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babbitt_(alloy)#Babbitt_alloys) but generally speaking "not really".
      Long answer: the babbit alloy that should be used for this application (high load, slow speed = high tin content) won't contain much lead but it'll contain some. But then again the squeezed juice should never come in contact with the bearings - the lower tray is designed in such way that the juice should just flow out and never get into bearing wells. Or, to put it this way - the grease in bearings of the motor in your food processor probably isn't food-safe either, but then if the food actually gets "in contact" with them (= into the motor) then "food safe or no safe" will probably be the least concern of yours in this scenario.
      Other companies used babbit in their designs of cane mills, and we have no records of any "lead mass poisoning" back then, so I assume it's "safe enough". And at any rate a tiny speck of babbit once or twice in your lifetime will do you less harm than drinking fructose-syrup loaded Coke every day... ;-)
      Anyway, back to the mill - parts of the "guards" or "dykes" on the bottom tray - ones that are supposed to keep the juice out of bearing wells are actually rusted away, but they can be easily rebuilt with a bit of brass and a touch of oxyacetylene torch.

    • @PhilG999
      @PhilG999 Год назад +1

      He addressed that in an earlier vid. What he's using is food-grade.

  • @aserta
    @aserta Год назад

    Will be interesting to see what the differences between an animal powered mill and the mechanical powered one is.

  • @Hoaxer51
    @Hoaxer51 Год назад

    Is this the cane mill they use for the amber syrup?

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Год назад +2

    You 'cane' do it... 🙂

  • @chrisjohnson4666
    @chrisjohnson4666 Год назад

    Im wondering if the restoration is more functional than original would getting those bearing caps water jetted out of steel be a hardier upgrade... Looks like the cast ones were a bit brittle in this application???

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr Год назад

    Do you have any idea of the working lifetime of one of those mills?

  • @Tammy-un3ql
    @Tammy-un3ql Год назад

    👍👍👍

  • @garybrenner6236
    @garybrenner6236 Год назад +1

    What happened to the Stoker Engine?

    • @DAKOTANSHELBY
      @DAKOTANSHELBY Год назад

      With every new video I am hoping it's the return of the Stoker Engine.

  • @melarndt6443
    @melarndt6443 Год назад

    You need a IBC tote full of Evaporust lik Abom has.

  • @matthewhelton1725
    @matthewhelton1725 Год назад +1

    This hurts my soul... the cane mill is great, don't get me wrong... but Keith switching between "Big Iron" (Lucas HBM), and this "Little Iron" Cane Mill... messes with my "anticipation of chips"
    complex...

    • @garybrenner6236
      @garybrenner6236 Год назад

      If you want to see chips, this is the wrong channel!
      Try Cutting Edge Engineering, or Topper Machine.

  • @RROOBBWWAANN
    @RROOBBWWAANN Год назад +1

    This one is right-hand drive, why was it also produced with left-hand rotation?

    • @DirtyRobot
      @DirtyRobot Год назад +10

      Depended on if you had a right hoofed or left hoofed mule.

    • @grntitan1
      @grntitan1 Год назад +7

      For use in Australia. Mules go in the left hand direction down under.

    • @RROOBBWWAANN
      @RROOBBWWAANN Год назад

      @@DirtyRobot How to check if our mule is right-handed?

    • @Hoaxer51
      @Hoaxer51 Год назад

      @@grntitan1, You know, I’ve heard that before but I didn’t know if it was true. Now that I’ve read it on the internet, I know it’s true! Lol
      Have a good Monday!

    • @DirtyRobot
      @DirtyRobot Год назад

      @@RROOBBWWAANN Watch which leg is the leading one. That's usually how you tell.

  • @Stefan_Boerjesson
    @Stefan_Boerjesson Год назад

    Sugar time. Keith Sugar Boy Rucker maybe? Put the old tune Sugar Baby Love on the record player and we get a sweet show. Warm jokes from a viewer.

  • @JeremiahL
    @JeremiahL Год назад

    Is rabbit food safe?

  • @j.r.millstone
    @j.r.millstone Год назад +1

    I mean no disrespect to Keith, but I swear his content is better at 1.5X speed.

  • @neilpuckett359
    @neilpuckett359 Год назад +1

    You need (I love spending other people's money lol) an electric winch on your gantry it would make things much easier.

    • @Cavemannspace
      @Cavemannspace Год назад

      One thing about chain falls, they can be very slow, which is an advantage many times. Electric wenches more generally have on and off while some may be variable speed. We had one that had fast and slow, but sometimes slow wasn't slow enough.

  • @UKDrew
    @UKDrew Год назад

    Wouldn't it of helped soaking in evaporust first?

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 Год назад

    KEITH, GREAT START ON THE JOB AT HAND AND GREAT VIDEO, TELL ALL HELLO AND PET THE CATS AN THE NEW PUPPY...SEE YOU WHEN...LETS GO TO WORK...

  • @hank5655
    @hank5655 Год назад

    I love old machines, Folks I am gonna tell ya the fact of what we all are gonna have to do is To Tell of this so called Bird Flu only is hurtful to Birds of Water, So it's time to get Chicken's like we all used to have I am not going to pay that much for eggs, and I am putting in a garden this year like we all did in are Youth!!

  • @danhei
    @danhei Год назад

    Wouldn’t it be easier and quicker just to replace the bent shaft rather than trying to true it up❓cheers from 🇨🇦

  • @fireantsarestrange
    @fireantsarestrange Год назад

    I was assuming this thing had babitt bushings. I was wrong. This machine is pretty deteriorated.

  • @NeilABliss
    @NeilABliss Год назад

    You're the guy that fixes cane mills right?? Lol

  • @tommybewick
    @tommybewick Год назад

    Better than you than me! That thing is a mess and a lot of work. I won't even ask how much it's going to cost to restore that.

  • @summerforever6736
    @summerforever6736 Год назад

    maybe its time to get a power crane ?

  • @charlesmiles9115
    @charlesmiles9115 Год назад

    😛😛😛❤❤👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Hoaxer51
    @Hoaxer51 Год назад

    That poor thing was driven hard and put away wet. Looks like they missed a couple years on the maintenance program.

  • @PhilG999
    @PhilG999 Год назад

    @16:50 I think that's the worst one I've seen come apart yet!

  • @Tinman97301
    @Tinman97301 Год назад

    🤷‍♂️

  • @whalley6044
    @whalley6044 Год назад

    My reaction to babbitt is you're doing what's easy rather than what's right. Not what I've come to expect from you. The bronze inserts are what make this mill unique.
    Remaking the authentic bronze bushings shouldn't be difficult. Buy bronze sheet the same thickness as the thick part of the bearing. Bend "U" around a rod the same diameter as the shaft. Then mount the shaft in a rotary table on the mill, offset the axis the appropriate amount & mill the crescent shape. Or use a 4 jaw in a lathe & do same. Last resort braze the ID of the bearing caps & turn the bearing surface to ID.
    It would be fairly easy to make a mandrel for the lathe - similar to a crankshaft. Then make the blank 1" longer than needed & use excess on the ends to secure it with either clamps a la carbide inserts or just a couple hose clamps.
    MOFWIW

    • @MrKotBonifacy
      @MrKotBonifacy Год назад

      _"doing what's easy rather than what's right"_ - well, a valid point (to a point...), but then one has to draw a line somewhere, hasn't he?
      Shall we "restore" old rusty bolts, or just throw them away and replace with new ones? Shall we painstakingly repair some broken part (a bearing cover or such) or just cast new one? Or - heaven forbids! - just made one from a piece of sheet metal?
      Also, there's this person called "customer" who's paying for the restoration and who (I assume) just wants to have a functioning mill for reasonable amount of money, a mill that will be used occasionally only - if ever.
      Babbit bearings would be perfectly suitable for this purpose, the original bushings were made of brass because back then those mills were "run of the mill" (pun not intended) heavily used common homestead utensils, often pushed hard to their limits while in use - and bronze bearings are harder and would last longer under those circumstances. And then when they got worn out, any "both-lefty" Joe out there could visit a local hardware store, buy a new pair of mass produced bushings for couple of cents, and install them himself using just a hammer and a screwdriver (plus a hefty dose of cursing).
      Pouring babbit is totally different kettle of fish, requiring skill and quite cumbersome, thus "Joe-replaceable" ready made bronze bushings made a lot of sense BACK THEN. But nowadays you can't get them any more, and Keith is a seasoned all around machinist, so for him pouring new babbit bearings would be a piece of cake. And at any rate, as I mentioned earlier, the mill probably will be hardly ever used, and even if it'll be the new "non-original" babbit bearings would work just fine, and then...
      And then, last but not least... Well, lemme put it that way: no one of us is getting any younger, and at a certain stage of our lives we are "not getting any younger" much more than we used to, and if you're not getting my drift just take a look at Keith's videos from just two years ago, and "spot the difference".
      Tasks that used to be "easy things to do" few years back somehow are just not the same few years latter. Wonder why...? Dunno about you, but I noticed "a slightly different working style and movements", but I won't elaborate on it. "Word to the wise", as they say.
      And then there's this quote from "The Master and Margarita" - "Yes, man is mortal, but that would be only half the problem. The worst of it is that he's sometimes unexpectedly mortal-and that's the crux!" - and being the customer (and the owner of this mill) I'd seriously ponder over the meaning of this sentence... but I digress here.

  • @peterhobson3262
    @peterhobson3262 Год назад +1

    It's just my pet peeve but I hate to see a screwdriver used as a chisel or pry bar.

  • @greggc.touftree5936
    @greggc.touftree5936 Год назад

    Keith why are you losing so much weight so fast? I lost 70lbs after I quit drinking, but I think I lost way too much and I'm scared. You got something going on? I'm concerned for you.

  • @sd4594
    @sd4594 Год назад +1

    horizontal boring mill year 2

  • @satguy
    @satguy Год назад +16

    Ooh, another one? With all due respect I'll be skipping this series.

    • @tommybewick
      @tommybewick Год назад +2

      Honestly I was thinking the same thing. But then again I think word has gotten around down south that he's the guy to restore these things. And I'm sure he's making good money doing it. So you can't really blame Keith.

    • @satguy
      @satguy Год назад +2

      @@tommybewick I don't blame him and I even watch the odds-and-ends videos. But I just can't do another one of these.

    • @Stefan_Boerjesson
      @Stefan_Boerjesson Год назад +1

      Understandable. However, handling new difficulties migh show new methods.

    • @satguy
      @satguy Год назад +3

      @@Stefan_Boerjesson I hope you enjoy watching them.

    • @billdoodson4232
      @billdoodson4232 Год назад +1

      I'll be dipping in and out on this one. Might watch 5 minutes.

  • @MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc
    @MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc Год назад

    Bronze is not brass!

  • @RB-yq7qv
    @RB-yq7qv Год назад +2

    More sweet tooth operations to get the juice following. The dentist will counting the cash or is that fillings. Should be a good repair job.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Год назад +1

    Thanks for sharing